#the 41st division

[sokkastyles]

Thinking about Zuko objecting to the 41st division of new recruits being put on the front lines and the earthbender in "Zuko Alone" saying that the Fire Nation puts captured soldiers on the front lines without weapons as cannon fodder. Not only is this unbelievably cruel but it also shows that this is a tactic the FN uses repeatedly and that they'll use their own men in the same way. The connection between the fire nation nobles discarding the lives of their own men and the earthbender soldiers in the town in "Zuko Alone" bragging about the same thing happening to Li's brother because they could, because it was a show of power over someone they thought they were better than. That Zuko calls out both abuses of power in both episodes regardless of what "side" the soldiers being abused are on. Those are the kinds of things that will make Zuko a good leader, that make him the one to end the war, to end the needless and cruel deaths of young soldiers on either side.

It connects back to the story of Lu Ten and Iroh's song, the leaves from the vine who are felled because of the decisions of people abusing their power.

#zuko #iroh #lu ten #zuko alone #the storm #the 41st division

[theymademesignup08]

“The live action atla show was bad.” Watch the 41st division scene and say that again to my face I dare you.

#Istg y’all just want to be mad at everything #That scene made me so sick #I stared at the wall for 20 minutes after #The way Zuko was holding back tears I can’t #avatar #avatar the last airbender #atla #zuko #uncle iroh #the 41st division #dallas liu #atla live action

[katarasmomsnecklace]

OK so controversial opinion

I haven't see the live action avatar (I'm a Katara stan yall I just can't do it) but going based of reviews and general consensus I can see I'm going against the grain here

I hate that the 41st is Zuko's crew

I've seen so many people say that it was the only change they liked but I cannot get on board with it

My biggest issue and I guess this is on me since it wasn't stated in the show (though heavily implied) was that I and many assumed that the 41st was child soldiers

I know they only state it's new recruits in the og but even as a kid I assumed that meant teens at the very oldest

I thought the 41st would be 14/15 year olds

And I assumed they all died

Leaving the fate of the 41st ambiguous was what made the fire nation terrifying to me as a kid, were they really willing to kill their own children? That's what made Zukos banishment hit so hard for me because if the Fire Lord could maim his own child, what was happening to the other kids in the fire nation?

Also it takes away a level of cruelty from Ozai, even if the 41st is alive is he really going to let Zuko know that, is going to let Zuko see the people he saved?

Plus I think it really sours Iroh telling the crew about Zuko's compassion and love of his nation and its people; instead it sounds more like "stop complaining that he's disrespectful he saved your lives"

I just can't see how it adds to the story and I think it actually makes Zuko's arc with his crew worse.

In my opinion, it messed with the untold story telling, we didn't need to know what happened to the 41st. Why not let the audience draw their own conclusions instead of dumbing it down

I just really really hate that change

#the 41st division #41st #atla #avatar the last airbender live action #live action avatar #avatar the last airbender #natla #natla spoilers #prince zuko #zuko #uncle iroh #general iroh #ozai #fire lord ozai #lieutenant jee #natla critical #natla criticism

[thebluemallet]

Iroh- Lieutenant Jee, do you know why you're all on this ship?

Me, who just put together why Lieutenant Jee and the rest of the crew are on that ship-

#avatar the last airbender #avatar netflix #natla spoilers #prince zuko #uncle iroh #lieutenant jee #the 41st division #instant tears as soon as iroh said it

[jaded-ghoster]

having zuko’s crew be the same men he saved from death at the general’s battle tactics meeting was the best decision ever and i NEED a fic about zuko and the 41st division right NEOW, give me liutenant jee realizing this teenager saved their lives and doesn’t hold the consequences against them but rather still protects them OR GIVE ME DEATH

#atla #prince zuko #zuko #avatar the last airbender #the 41st division

[cocoabubbelle-newblog]

#avatar the last airbender #avatar the last airbender netflix #netflix atla #natla #natla spoilers #atla sokka #atla zuko #atla #atla jet #hakoda #sokka #zuko #fire lord ozai #avatar kuruk #the 41st division #shenanigans #fandom polls

[the-bottom-of-my-bucket]

I won’t cry over Zuko and his crew

I WON’T cry over Zuko and his crew

#episode 6 #the 41st division #I am crying and for what

[vidduality]

SPOILERS for Episode 6 of the Avatar Live Action series

AKA why this episode makes me SO grateful for this adaptation (re: the Zuko flashbacks and the Agni Kai).

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Wow.

I admit, I was really worried at the idea that Zuko might potentially fight back in the Agni Kai against his father in the live action. I expected to HATE it, and it's certainly a bold change, but it fits in SO WELL with why Zuko is the way that he is (and why he works so hard to push down his empathy whenever Aang tries to reason with him).

The Agni Kai - Zuko obviously did NOT want to fight his father. He still tried to apologize and beg for mercy, but in the end he was just too terrified of his father to disobey a direct order.

But when Ozai left him an opening to see what he'd do with it, Zuko couldn't bring himself to actually land a blow that might burn him. Making his lack of ruthlessness the weakness that Ozai ends up mutilating him for - even straight up telling Zuko that compassion is weakness and then demonstrating by holding his own child down and lighting him on fire - adds a layer of depth that only enhances the original scene (and in another stroke of genius, we see Ozai nearly in tears himself. He's convincing himself of this lesson as well as Zuko, which was likely passed down to him by his own father). Honestly, this to me is even more heartbreaking than Ozai burning him for refusing to stand and fight. Zuko did everything his father asked and he still failed, because his family has distorted what it means to be honorable and believes Zuko's capacity for mercy to be a shameful weakness unbecoming of an heir to the throne.

The 41st Division - And here come the waterworks. Assigning the very people Zuko was hurt so severely for trying to save to his ship as it's being cast out of the fire nation (presumably forever, with the Avatar not having been seen in 100 years) is SUCH a brilliant addition. His crew resents Zuko for being stuck on this impossible mission with this bratty, angry child. And Zuko is too ashamed of his "weakness" to explain why they were assigned to him.

I can totally see Zuko's hurt at their lack of respect making him even more angry (especially after everything he went through to save them from being sacrificed), and his seemingly irrational anger at them just continuing to make them resent him more in a neverending feedback loop of anger and disrespect that's been growing and festering for 3 years.

Which makes the scene at the end when Zuko's crew finally learns about how he saved their lives (as well as why he's obsessed with the avatar, why he's banished, what his scar means and why he's trying so very hard to rid himself of empathy, even if he can never quite manage it when it counts) so much more impactful. I SOBBED when the 41st Division stood at attention and showed him their utmost respect and loyalty, possibly for the first time since they've been on that ship. Zuko's soft "what's going on?" at finally being honored by his crew is just imprinted on my brain.

The seed of the idea that his compassion may NOT actually be what was shameful about his banishment afterall can finally begin to take root.

I just, damn, I love this episode so much.

#zuko #avatar the last airbender #atla live action #atla spoilers #atla netflix #fire lord ozai #avatar live action #avatar netflix #avatar spoilers #41st division #agni kai #avatar #i hope they survived #i need them to be there to see what zuko becomes #and they can spread the word to the fire nation #about who deserves their loyalty #meta #natla #atla

[acerdime]

ATLA AU - Zuko Can See Ghosts

Dead people in ATLA either reincarnate or stay as ghosts until they’re ready to do so. There is no afterlife just as there are no gods. The closest thing to gods ATLA has is spirits but if the Spirit World was the afterlife, I think there would be a lot more humans around when Avatars visit. Iroh’s only there because he went in before he died.

Zuko knows why his mother left because Grandfather Azulon is still there as a ghost to tell him Ursa poisoned him to save Zuko’s life. He was going to haunt Ursa until he realized Zuko could see him and haunted him instead. Surprise, surprise, the guy who ordered the death of his grandson is a dick.

There are many servants dead by Ozai’s wrath in the palace. Their ghosts teach Zuko to stay quiet and fade into the background where it’s safe.

When Lu Ten dies, he regrets that he wasn’t able to save his young cousins from Ozai. Lu Ten stays a ghost and mentors Zuko in combat, bending, and strategy.

When the 41st Division die despite Zuko’s protests, and Zuko himself is burned and banished, the 41st Division find out Zuko defended them and stay ghosts to teach him all they can.

Zuko’s able to escape before the pirates hired by Zhao blow up his ship because the ghosts haunting the pirates warn him. This doesn’t change the plot, but it does save Zuko some pain.

Aang is followed/haunted by Monk Gyatso while Sokka & Katara are followed/haunted by Kya.

#atla #avatar #avatar the last airbender #aang #zuko #azulon #firelord azulon #lu ten #iroh #tlok #the legend of korra #legend of korra #41st division #kya #monk gyatso #ghosts #fic ideas #fic prompt #fic idea #fanfic ideas #fanfic prompt #fanfiction ideas #fanfiction prompts #zhao #admiral zhao #commander zhao

[starz-n-stuff]

Okay so I just managed to finish watching the new live action ATLA series and all I see is people getting mad about changes and this and that but I’m here to talk about my FAVOURITE change made.

The 41st division that Zuko saved being his crew on the ship. I L o v e that to no end. Just the fact that Zuko saved their lives entirely and yeah they’re kinda banished with him but they would be dead otherwise and ahhhh my gods it’s amazing. I think it’s an amazing addition to the story and I’m glad it was put there.

Sure I didn’t agree with some of the other changes but keeping in mind that it’s difficult to adapt cartoon to live action and that a lot of the original episodes when the show was coming out were fillers I think they did well including as much as they could even if it was put in the background. Like that one pub scene you can hear a patron mention that the avatar defeated the canyon crawlers or something along those lines.

Cabbage man was incredible as always 🥬✨

#avatar the last airbender #atla #avatar the legend of aang #live action #live action adaptation #netflix the last airbender #avatar #zuko #prince zuko #changes #41st division addition

[starlightshadowsworld]

I love fics where Zuko gets to meet a survivor or someone connected to the 41st division.

Because Zuko spoke out in that war room at 13 years old, to save them.

He believed so strongly and so deeply that putting these newbies out on the field to die as fodder was wrong.

It's the first time Zuko voices his opposition to his father's, hell his nations ideals.

He gets punished for it.

Zuko's entire journey starts off because he spoke against the massacre of innocents.

And the survivor or the disgraced soilder views him as not a traitor to his nation, but as their Prince.

Something Zuko is taken aback by, to him he failed the 41st. They were all killed, at the end of the day his words did nothing.

But they meant everything.

The 41st learned of his act of bravery and they went into battle with that hope in their heart. That there was someone who cared for them.

They didn't fight for the Fire Nation nor the Fire lord, but their Prince.

Maybe some survived and were sent to the Boiling Rock for the crime of living and run into him there.

But they know the truth, they know and Zuko has a moment that he helped them... That he did something for his people.

And it hurts them too, to see that their Prince...That this child has more kindness in his heart than many adults.

That he was hurt so callously and cruelly because of them.

And they vow that they will stand by his side and serve him for the rest of their days.

Fics for anyone intrigued:

One huge joke by PorcelenaRota

The scars of the past (still burn today) by Sealure

#prince zuko #Zuko #Atla the 41st division #avatar: the last airbender

[xalonelydreamerx]

I know the graphic comic is based on the cursed movie but I recall reading inspiration was taken from the animated series as well so I accept any azula&zuko crumbs I can get

I quite like the idea of Azula being the one to help Zuko find a ship by talking to their father.

#zuko #atla #azula #prince zuko #princess azula #atla azula #atla zuko #iroh #atla comics #avatar the last airbender #headcanon #Ozai assigning 41st division could still happen even within this context #I completely ignore the Iroh part 'cause my vision of him joining zuko is completely different

[layla-carstairs]

and if I said episode 6 aka masks of the new live action atla was genuinely really good

#like??? oh my God #Zukos crew being the 41st division........ I'll never stop thinking about that actually #bella talks #atla #avatar the last airbender #natla #natla spoilers

[cam-ulu29]

IF YOU ARE SO CONCERNED WITH THE 41ST DIVISION THEN I WILL ALLOW YOU TO TAKE THEM AS YOUR CREW

#no other thoughts your honor #avatar the last airbender #avatar the last airbender spoilers #episode six masks #just adding more layers to the tragedy of Zuko #zuko #41st division

[goatsghost]

THE 41ST DIVISION????? ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? ZUKO & THE 41ST CREW GIRLIES WE ARE SO BACK!!!!

#broooooo the fanfictions have prepared us #i’m screaming!!!!!!!!! #this is so much better than the ‘chit sang and zuko talk about the 41st division’ fics ob my god??????? #this is so good i’m fucking dead!!!!! #this is worth them changing the agni kai #i was gonna complain about it but that little twist absolutely altered my brain lol #ggw liveblog #avatar #atla #atla netflix #atla spoilers

[forjongseong]

I was skeptical about the live action of ATLA but after giving it a watch to the end I really ended up liking it. As I am now rewatching the original series, I notice all the differences people were complaining talking about and I kinda understand how they adapted it? Like come on, a book adapted into a movie is gonna be different, so a cartoon series made into a live action is obviously gonna have differences too. I feel like the people who constantly shit on the live action are either haters for no reason or just jumping on the hate train.

#nanarambles #nana talks series #ATLA #atla live action #i saw this post about zuko fighting back ozai in the live action #which isnt like how he literally kneeled and begged to ozai in the series #i actually like that he fought back???? #especially him having that COMPASSION IS WEAKNESS quote engraved his mind #and then ozai telling zuko to take the 41st division as his crew??? #that was a TOUCHING moment omg #the only thing that still bothers me a little is the casting of azula and her gang #but what do i know #clearly i just end up enjoying stuff adhdsahdads #although in terms of live action adapted from series #one piece still holds first place