#the members said it themselves

[cruelsister-moved2]

cis gay men r here with the worst takes of all sometimes because its like theyre so naive to the realities women experience at the hands of men but they also dont question their allegiance to the institutions of patriarchy and manhood when it serves them. do u know how often i see cis gay guys basically claiming that they can’t be misogynistic bc they arent attracted to women. which is a whole can of worms on its own but its telling that they see all misogyny as a result of sexual attraction and not like an ideology of power & control. mb youre not dehumanising women by viewing us as sexual objects for your pleasure but you still don’t see us as possessing the same complex humanity as you and sometimes you still fundamentally understand us as sex objects for OTHER men n think ur just a privileged outside observer to it all. genuinely the worst type of guy 

#n like i said so many cis gay men see themselves as members of the Cis Gay Men Community and do not view the rest of us as anything more to #do w them than straight ppl

[middle-earth-mythopoeia]

Yes, there are gay characters in Tolkien’s books

There seems to be an entrenched view among Tolkien fans that Tolkien did not write any gay characters, and that by interpreting any of his characters as gay you are going against what he would have wanted. Homophobes obviously believe this very strongly, and have always been hostile towards queer fans and queer interpretations of Tolkien’s works. Many members of the LGBTQ community also believe that they’re contradicting canon when they interpret Tolkien’s characters as gay—the only difference is they don’t mind doing so.

But is it so against canon to interpret any of Tolkien’s characters as gay? The assumption that Tolkien did not write gay characters hinges on his Catholicism, but I’m going to explain why this is flimsy reasoning.

First, it should be noted that Tolkien didn’t leave any writings expressing his views on homosexuality, so there is no evidence one way or another. But it seems relevant that Tolkien was good friends with W.H. Auden and corresponded with him over multiple decades. They first met when Auden listened to one of Tolkien’s lectures at Oxford and was inspired to learn Anglo-Saxon. Auden loved Tolkien’s poetry and prose and defended LOTR from critics at a time when it was seen as an unserious work in an unserious genre. Did Tolkien know Auden was gay? We don’t know for sure. But there’s at least a chance that he did: the secret of Auden’s homosexuality is one he “loosely kept”, according to an article in the Guardian.

So, Tolkien was friends with a gay man whom he may or may not have known was gay. But are there gay characters in Tolkien’s books? Unfortunately for the homophobes, even if you believe that Tolkien opposed homosexuality on principle, that still doesn’t mean no one in Middle-earth is gay. Actually, no one in Middle-earth is Catholic. I mean that literally, in the sense that Catholicism does not exist in the time period Tolkien wrote about, but I also mean it in the sense that Tolkien’s characters need not adhere to the tenets of his religion, even if it’s not named. Why would they?

It shouldn’t be controversial or surprising to point out that writers can, and often do, write characters that live very different lives from their own. Needless to say, Tolkien didn’t condone the actions of the antagonists of his work, but what about the protagonists? Are we to believe that all of them act in an unfailingly Catholic way at all times? In Laws and Customs of the Eldar, it is strongly implied that (especially in their younger years) Elves do have sex for pleasure and not just to beget children, something that is discouraged by Catholicism. That’s just one example.

(Please note that I’m not arguing that Tolkien’s Catholicism had no influence on his writings, because he explicitly said that it did. I’m saying that Tolkien’s characters themselves are not Catholic and do not necessarily behave like Catholics. So even if you think that all Catholics believe homosexuality is wrong, it has no bearing on Tolkien’s stories.)

Another line of reasoning goes that homosexuality is too taboo for Tolkien—but I have to wonder if people who believe this have read his books at all. The Silmarillion is full of taboo subjects. Túrin and Niënor marry, not knowing they are brother and sister; they find out the truth, and that she is pregnant, and they both commit suicide. Eöl’s relationship with Aredhel is one that, even if it didn’t start out as controlling and abusive—although I suspect it did—it clearly ended up that way, and depending on your interpretation of the text, he may have raped her. Celegorm attempts to force Lúthien to marry him, which would also involve rape, and there is a passage that implies that Morgoth also intends to rape Lúthien. Neither incest, rape or abuse are too taboo for Tolkien—neither are suicide, torture or mass murder, as the rest of the Silmarillion shows.

I don’t want anyone to take this in bad faith: I’m not saying that being gay is comparable to incest, rape or abuse, and I’m part of the LGBTQ community myself. What I am saying is that Tolkien clearly did not shy away from certain subjects, including sexual taboos, simply because they’re taboo. If you’re going to argue that none of Tolkien’s characters are queer because it wasn’t accepted at the time, that’s very unconvincing given the other subject matter in his books.

There is another reason why I think there are gay characters in Middle-earth, and it has to do with Tolkien’s inspirations. It’s well understood by Tolkien fans that you can see echoes of other mythologies in Tolkien’s works. But which ones? When Lúthien brings Beren back from the Halls of Mandos, there are obvious parallels with the myth of Orpheus and Eurydice—though the genders are reversed, and Lúthien succeeds where Orpheus did not. There are parallels between Túrin and Kullervo. There are numerous examples of this kind of thing throughout the Silmarillion and LOTR. Even the name Middle-earth clearly has its roots in the Norse name Midgard. There are some influences that Tolkien explicitly acknowledged, like the Kalevala and the Völuspá, and some that Tolkien scholars have only theorized about. While there are some scholarly articles on Tolkien and the Aeneid, one thing I have never seen anyone discuss is the parallel between Beleg’s death and the story of Nisus and Euryalus.

In the Aeneid, Nisus and Euryalus are a pair of friends and lovers who are fighting for Aeneas in Latium. Nisus, the older of the two men, is said to be a skilled javelin-thrower and archer. Nisus proposes a night raid on an enemy camp, and Euryalus insists on going with him. During the raid they kill many men in their sleep, collecting some of their armor as loot, as was customary. But when they leave the camp, the glint of light on a helmet taken by Euryalus is seen by a group of enemy horsemen, who capture and kill him before Nisus can stop them. Nisus is distraught and kills many of them in retaliation, ultimately dying beside his lover’s body. (In some versions, it’s a stolen belt, not a helm—but the constant motif is the glint of light that reveals Euryalus to the enemy.)

There are so many similarities with Beleg and Túrin that it cannot be a coincidence. Beleg and Túrin also fight side by side, first on the marches of Doriath and later when Túrin is an outlaw. They are very loyal to each other, and clearly love each other. Like Nisus, Beleg is known to be a great archer. Meanwhile, although it does not feature in Beleg’s death scene, Túrin is associated with a particularly significant helm. There are differences too: Túrin’s captivity is the reason for Beleg’s raid on the Orc-camp, whereas Euryalus is captured after the raid; both Nisus and Euryalus are slain one after the other, whereas only Beleg dies in the raid on the Orc-camp. But there is still the overarching parallel of the night raid, in which the enemy guards are killed silently in their sleep; the raid’s connection with an attempted rescue; the chance moment that leads to the tragic death; the imagery of the flash of light; and the distraught reaction of Nisus and Túrin when they see that Euryalus and Beleg are dead. Tolkien read the Aeneid as a student and so would have been familiar with its contents.

There is also the fact that in some versions of the story Túrin kisses Beleg on the mouth in this scene. Although kissing someone on the mouth has not always been a romantic gesture in all cultures and time periods, the clear parallels to the scene in the Aeneid lead me to think that it is in this case. Whether you see the relationship between Túrin and Beleg as romantic is up to you—all that I’m trying to do is show that it’s a legitimate interpretation.

Ultimately, like I wrote here, I don’t think you need permission from anyone in order to interpret Tolkien’s stories the way you want to. If you want to interpret one of his characters as gay, you don’t need to cite obscure plotlines from the Aeneid to justify it. But I do take issue with the idea—which is so pervasive in the fandom—that Tolkien’s stories must not have gay, or bisexual, or trans people in them, and that any interpretations to that effect are against canon. At the end of the day, Middle-earth is supposed to be our world, and guess what? Queer people exist.

#lotr #tolkien #lord of the rings #silmarillion #my writing #Most of the people I encounter in the Tolkien fandom are either members of the LGBTQ community themselves or supportive of it #but once in a while the homophobes rear their ugly heads #I’ve been wanting to write a post about the Beleg/Turin/Nisus/Euryalus parallel for a while now #Plus I’m a Latin nerd myself and also studied the Aeneid in school! #For the record I call that plot line obscure because it’s obscure nowadays but I don’t think it would have been obscure to Tolkien #like I said in the post #and the parallel really adds to the romantic subtext between Beleg and Turin #I do believe it was intentional

[pocketgalaxies]

hi! seeing you during all this ep95 mess has been a breath of fresh air. you seem to have a really firm grasp of canon so I wanted to ask what you think of the recent discord message from Liam where he says Orym didn't know that Laudna was under Delilah's influence when she killed Bor'dor? I watched the clip from 4SD, & it's pretty clear that Liam says Orym understood Laudna was opening the door for Delilah when he encouraged her to kill Bor'dor & even says "we'll need that." But the Discord message seems to walk that back. It's been super frustrating being accused of vilifying Orym or infantilizing Laudna for repeating what Liam himself said. I just don't really know how to reconcile these two statements from Liam & it has me a bit confused on Orym's character.

hi anon, thank you!

this turned into a much longer one than i was expecting dfksjdkfs

so last week i posted this Really Long Ask about the whole discussion, if you want to take a look. but i intentionally didn't bring up liam's discord message because you're right! it seemed contradictory to something that was stated in the past, which was confusing

honestly i think the most realistic answer is that liam probably didn't mean for what he said on 4SD to be understood as such a strong and maybe even polarizing character choice. i think a lot of us heard it as "orym sees delilah as a useful/necessary asset that outweighs what might happen to laudna afterward." particularly because he framed it as something that made the whole situation "even creepier," and during that same convo, marisha was emphasizing the psychological impact that killing bor'dor had on laudna. it's a strong stance and it reflects what orym is doing to himself (handing his endgame over to the questionably fickle nana morri to increase their chances of success against ludinus)

but i suppose liam's clarification suggests that he meant it in a softer, more practically level-headed way, like "orym knew he couldn't do a whole lot about delilah's return but he also thought it could have benefits," or something along those lines. they're obviously two hugely different interpretations with pretty big implications on how we understand orym's relationship with laudna

i'm not a connoisseur of orym's character by ANY means so i can't confidently tell you what the change might mean from a narrative perspective, but i personally still prefer the former stronger stance. because i think it raises interesting questions about how orym views his own place in this war and whether or not it's valid for him to (intentionally or subconsciously) project that placement onto the other party members. is it okay for orym to expect the same level of personal sacrifice from laudna, or imogen with predathos (a whole separate can of worms), or anyone else? is it safe? etc etc. but maybe liam doesn't want to go in that direction, or maybe he does but just not in the way we expect, i don't know! only time will tell!

also regardless of what he meant, i think it's important to acknowledge that it's really easy and completely understandable to feel like he was walking something back. that episode of 4SD was almost a whole year ago! many of us built that statement into our perception and understanding of orym's character for a long time, so it's totally valid to go "wait what the fuck???" when liam suddenly pops into the discord to say that's not what he meant. those feelings are valid and real! especially when discourse can already make you question your own intelligence and your personal interpretations of a story, having that pillar, as big or small as it might've been in your mind, knocked over can be really jarring. you are very much not alone in that, and it's okay!!

#hope this helps? #anonymous #ask #answered #critical role #cr fandom #cr negativity #cr meta #nova shh #for the record i think the wording of his discord message is super flimsy compared to what he said on 4SD #which only made it easier for me to feel like he was just sticking his nose in discourse to try and defend his character #which - during what was very clearly taking shape as an orym vs. laudna argument - made me feel like liam was shitting on my feelings #i'm OBVIOUSLY not saying that's what his intentions were but i can't logic my way out of my initial rage reaction to a discord screenshot #and it just illustrates the dangers of cast members directly involving themselves in fandom discourse #which i kinda thought the cast maybe wasn't ever ever gonna do again....after c1 reddit....after bowlgate.......etc....... #saying vaguely defensive stuff when two parts of a fandom are at each other's throats only adds fuel to the fire. it clears up fuck all #and it gives people more reasons to agree or disagree with each other and point to your vague-ass message as evidence #so really. not that you asked but. i really think he shouldn't have said it lmao. bc ppl got Even Nastier after he did #¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it's out there now! what can you do!

[rotisseries]

i have GOT to stop going and checking out the notes on... that one post.... but it's CRAZY to me that people keep reblogging it very seriously being like "HOW CAN PEOPLE LIKE HENRY HE MURDERED 20 CHILDREN"

you mean the fictional child murder?? you mean the fake fictional child murder?? you mean the fake fictional telekinetic sci fi child murder by fake fictional telekinetic sci fi murder man on fake fictional telekinetic sci fi horror netflix show stranger things??? YOU MEAN THAT FAKE MURDER???

no you're so right there's never once been a history of fandoms liking a guy even if he did a bit of fake fictional murder what an insane concept

#one of the members of the fan club found it and was very seriously defending themselves in the notes too #like “I NEVER SAID IT WAS COOL THAT HE MURDERED THOSE KIDS I LIKE HIM BC I THINK HE DIDN'T DO IT” #which like I get why you're rolling up in defense since the post is calling you fucking crazy but the defense itself is also funny as hell #bc it's just not that serious lmao. stan him AND the murder if you want idfc #in fact I think the fan club is a bit annoying and I'd probably like them better if they DID think he murdered all those kids #say it with your whole chest. child murderer jones murdered all those children and he's my pookie #but like. I'm sure plenty of people are reblogging it lightheartedly like ''yeah haha funny #he murdered a bunch of kids and people edit him with cat ears or whatever isn't that crazy!'' but like. some people seem like #they're taking it seriously lol #and it's just like. not that serious lmao I'm sorry this is our most hysterical discourse yet #I don't even really LIKE the fanclub but wtf lol #anyway. y'all ever heard of like. a horror slasher fandom? #should I main tag this? #nah. I want to a little bit but I should not #ok nvm I will #I will regret it maybe but I'll do it #stranger things #byler #henry creel

[thedreadvampy]

just like. bit late to the TMA2 party here but casual reminder that if you stay on that thing where you keep looking for throughlines and Clever Thematic Links between Mechanisms albums and Magnus Archiveses I will come to your house and beat you around the head with a 2x4 painted with the words THERE WERE NINE PEOPLE WHO WROTE THOSE ALBUMS

#red said #the mechanisms #reminded of this bc hereward just came up on shuffle and i remembered the multiple people being like #WHAT IS JONNY TRYING TO SAY BY SAYING #'HE LOVED HIS FRIEND MARTIN ' HMMMMM #and the answer is nothing #first of all bc i don't think Jonny was actually involved in Hereward although i may be mistaken #but mostly bc the person who decided that Hereward's servant who he loved was called Martin was a fucking. 12th century monk. you fools. #IT'S IN THE GESTA HEREWARDI IT PREDATES TMA BY ALMOST A MILLENNIUM #actually Martin might be a Kingsley invention I've never read the gesta herewardi I'm not a nerd #but that's still almost 200 years pre tma so the point stands #ANYWAY #that's not really the point the point is that people keep acting like there's some meaning to the parallels between Bifrost and TMA speci #specifically. and that may be true but that's not some master plan by Jonny because JONNY DID NOT WRITE THE BIFROST INCIDENT #Jonny wrote HIS PARTS in the Bifrost Incident but the rest of the band wrote THEIR parts and the story was mostly not Jonny's #so no he wasn't laying some masterful seeds and no they don't take place in the same universe #and no he's not the Genius Responsible For The Mechanisms it was a COLLABORATIVE PROJECT #with at least 4 or 5 ppl cocreating the bulk of each story and all members of the band putting a lot of themselves and their ideas in #and it is real fuckin grating having it framed as Jonny's Great Work when every person in that band had a similar level of creative input #Jonny's great. so are the other 8 people who made the albums

[coquelicoq]

did i tell u guys about how my family, who have been lukewarm at best and vaguely antagonistic at worst about using they/them pronouns for my nonbinary sibling, did a complete 180 upon learning that my sibling is also good with she/her...like i can't even tell you how hard it's been to get them to even just try to use they/them and then they hear she/her and a switch is flipped in their brains that goes "you are an asshole actually" and all of a sudden my mom is buying PROTECT TRANS KIDS t-shirts and my grandmother's apologizing to me when she messes up. okay i'm glad you got there eventually but if this capability was inside you all along i don't understand why you couldn't have been doing this with the they/them set. like my grandmother told me a couple years ago that she wasn't even going to make an effort because she was probably going to die soon (<-completely made up excuse; obviously any of us could die at any time, and she is old, but she's in good health and her mother lived to be 100) and therefore wouldn't be seeing my sibling often enough for it to matter??? but she/her is worth the effort where they/them was not, apparently. like again i can't complain about the outcome but i am very much complaining about how we got here. what even is this.

#also love how my stepdad said he would start using she/her on my sibling's birthday as a birthday present... #don't even know where to start with that. like oh thank you how benevolent of you to grant this favor #and these are people who see themselves as progressives #my theory is that they vaguely theoretically support trans people because Being Mean to Trans People is what Bad People do #but didn't actually categorize my sibling as trans until they heard about the she/her pronouns. they/them is just a silly fancy i guess #transphobia #pronouns #idk just like. how hard is it to try to respect the way someone wants to be referred to. it hurts no one #i'm not even complaining about the family members who had trouble because they/them is a plural pronoun #i don't really buy that because of singular they but at least they were trying. and they only told me they were struggling in private #away from my sibling. but to not even try? and then it turns out you ARE capable of changing the pronouns you use for someone #as long as they're pronouns YOU'VE decided are legitimate? that's not how this works people

[chainofclovers]

Being a human is literally like this weird combo of being okay and not okay that goes on forever except there is also death

#(i'm fine) #(personally) (mostly) (really) #this has just been an absolutely terrible year for our planet and its people and animals #and it's fucking insane that as an american living in relative safety and comfort and experiencing the pleasures and guilt of that... #...i can experience this horrible yet ENTIRELY SURVIVABLE blend of acute pain over so many things at once #including war and genocide and the utter hopelessness of that #and also things like being really really sad that matthew perry's life was so hard and he died #and also so many bad and weird things have happened to family members this year but we mostly have the resources to come together and deal #which is amazing and bolstering and exhausting #and my brain still has space to be excited about writing and numb to writing and angry/impotent about writing #desperate for feedback yet private and retreat-y and weird #always hoping to hit upon The Perfect Thing :-/ #and i live in a place that basically is not a democracy any more and also the u.s. is so cursed we've never been what we said we were #so a lot of my own perceived safety is incredibly fragile #but still so much more solid than what the people i am mourning for had #and none of the comparisons make a lick of sense and are in and of themselves deeply unfair #to the point that it's humiliating to feel guilt (making it about me) and simultaneously humiliating that i don't feel guilt *constantly* #and i have therapy this week but also this deep sense that while my therapist will be a fine person to talk to it will feel unuseful #i've always been a muddle of optimism and pessimism and i am very adamant that life is super beautiful and this is precisely why... #...all the violence in the world is so brutally devastating #it's just that the casserole of all these thoughts feels increasingly horrible #and feeling that way is 100% sane #and even intersectional frameworks and intentional attempts at gentleness only get you so far in the grapple #for meaning and for ideas of what to do #so i end up contacting my reps about various awful things #and zooming in and out on my fixations and having excellent days and terrible days #often dependent on what feels like a camera setting i only partially control #and i'm sure i'm not alone in feeling embarrassed that deep empathy and grief for people i've not met somehow ends up being... #...at least a sliver about ME and my little world #about me

[vaxxildamn]

very happy Matt decided to clarify his stance on the genocide of the Palestinian people rn. Pretty unhappy with the way he worded it, who he centered in his video, and disappointed to see the responses to it on Twitter.

kinda scared to even post about it bc CR fans can get so defensive about their favorite white people that they can often leave little room for criticism or nuance. but man I have thoughts.

#lemme just say. if you have a public platform that has set a precedent for philanthropic work. messages of positivity and love. #and have called attention to various political and social conflicts *in stream*. & whose employees and cast members are vocal #on socials about political topics #then it is NOT unreasonable for fans to expect them to address one of the deadliest orchestrated conflicts in recent history #a literal genocide is happening. thanks in part to the US. #it is good that they donated as a company and as individuals. so good! #but to everyone saying that publicizing good deeds like donations is virtue signaling or demanding CR cast to show their support is #or that activism shouldnt be all about what you post bc then it becomes performative #are kinda missing the point. and theyre not listening to palestinians at all #a huge issue with this conflict & the way its being received in the western world - ESPECIALLY the US bc of its partnership w israel - #is the sheer amount of disgusting minsinformation and propaganda convincing ppl this genocide is either not that bad or that its necessary #everyday citizens CANNOT change foreign policy. we cant do anything! #so what have Palestinians been asking us to do?? SPREAD AWARENESS ON SOCIAL MEDIA. MAKE PEOPLE AWARE. UPLIFT PALESTINIAN VOICES. SHARE LINKS #SHOW PPL THE TRUTH. #and yes its hard! its difficult to watch what theyre going thru. but we HAVE to. #i didnt rlly like matts statement. he said he didnt have the spoons to engage in the discourse. which i get. god i get it. #but ive also seen many many creators/influencers who are also disabled or whose families are directly involved gather their spoons to help #and no one was asking CR to harm themselves in the name of helping palestine. we only wanted them to spread awareness #bc the comments on their tweet about finally donating were full of mostly white centrist takes not able to see any benefit to donating or #addressing the issue at all. which is EXACTLY why CR should addresss it. bc they can reach so many who dont understand #but theyd been radio silent for almost 5 months. i didnt like that he didnt really apologize. i didnt like that he centered himself #i didnt like his lowkey flippant language either. saying all that.. ridiculousness in regards to a genocide not well worded. #but i dont feel right holding that against him. should he have thought it through better? sure but i get it #& unfortunately his parting message left a bad taste in my mouth - one of positivity & self care & hugging each other #nice important words but it didnt feel like he was talking about ppl who are affected by this conflict. but rather ppl who are watching #it just felt like a very white thing to say in response to this. we are not burdened and easily victimized bc of it #we are responsible. and so we must center palestinians. #if i were him i wldnt have gone in detail about how hard the palestinian genocide is for me to watch. #but thats just me #*CORRECTION: radio silent for almost 4 months

[taylortruther]

Controversial opinion maybe but I think travis and taylor are cute together but my care for travis stops with taylor ( sorry if that sounds rude) so it's interesting to me when i see people saying stuff like 'a few months ago i couldn't give a shit about football and now i'm watching travis highlight reels and researching football' like I think it's cool that taylor got a whole bunch of people interested in a sport but i still can't quite wrap my head around people caring about something they didn't have a single interest in just cause of one person. Like, it's not like im wanting to judge the people but it's just like, i just can't relate to it and i dont think i ever will. Like, imagine if taylor was dating an architect and you all of the sudden had a bunch of people who weren't before now interested in building designs. Like i dont know, i think that it's just kind of funny.

nah i feel the same. i'm happy taylor's happy but i have negative interest in football so travis and the games are whatever for me. although swifties becoming architecture stans sounds dope as hell honestly lmao

#also i think there's something to be said about creating a narrative about one of taylor's partners or besties or family members #and setting yourself up for disappointment/sham/whatever when they show who they are #like if you can't be normal about those people then you're not gonna be normal when they leave or show themselves ykwim #shame*

[katsigian]

#it's always so funny to me to see cy/ber/po/nk fandom members in other places where nobody knows them but i remember when they were making #snarky little call out posts about other people #and that they still actively support terfs #i remember all of the passive aggressive digs they made at me and other people outside of their clique #oh well they'll out themselves eventually #just like how they did when i asked people to stop calling my oc daddy and i got blocked by people in said fandom #tell me you're chronically online without actually telling me #tbd #i just saw one of those cp/77 people doing their love bombing maneuver on someone new and. yeah that tracks. i have them blocked #and filtered #but tumblr sucks at actually filtering #ugh #that's the tag

[tariah23]

Crying at the video of that dude going around asking poc and black folks if they could change their race, what would it be and every nb in that video we’re saying “white,” because of privilege with their whole chest, albeit, a little bit ashamed, while EVERY black person looked at the dude like he was crazy and was like “NO!? What the hell are you even talking about?” Like….. yeah, of course.

Also… Right

#of course nbs will fold for that sense of white security they already turn into kkk members when it comes to black ppl for free #so of course they don’t see #any issue wanting to be white for the perks while black ppl know better 😭… #like #and sm of them center themselves around conservative ideologies as is… no one said that they wanted to be black for obvious reasons lmfao #rambling #black ppl love being black I can’t speak for the fragility of others who don’t feel comfortable in their own skin and would jump at the #chance to be white that’s insane to me #why would you want to be another race in the first place why would you want to be the race of the people who mock you #it was mostly Asians and Hispanics saying this shit too that could be be a black person 😭

[that-ikea-alien-plush]

"i make out with my friends daily minsung aint shit"

im??? flabbergasted

#minsung mention #bitches will say dont ship your idols its disgusting mf they ship themselves the other members ship them the staff ships them- #even Aphrodite ships them #“dont call them gay it migtj ruin their careers” mf gay is not an insult!!!! if they had something against it they wouldnt act so fruity- #with eachother in front of cameras #and chan said they literally act like that at home too #stray kids does what they want and are succesful enough that they can get a little gay bruh #theres 8 of them at least one is fruity #and we all fuxkim know its leeknow #dont tell me yall think his ass straight cus i wont believe you #theres more proof for them being queer than for them being straight

[no-brand-gays]

if i became a school idol and the other members made my image color gray i would try to take down the group from the inside

#i’ve never said it but i’ve always thought it and i think a lot of people have given all the attempts to pretend kotori’s color is green #i do actually think it works for yoshiko but just for me it would feel so much like the short end of the stick #like everyone else is wearing sakura pink and sky blue and warm orange and i’m over here in a gray costume like yes this was my first choice #the reason I’m thinking about idols actually is that it took me 2 months of living in japan to realize i can go see idols #more specifically it took 2 months and the member of an idol group to hand me a flyer on the street and like very persistently and cutely #ask me to come until i was like okay yes ofc #i had literally just gotten off the bullet train i was wandering around and there she appeared #i love idols dude I really love idols so much #kpop is so much more accessible between fandom loudness and content more regularly being available for free but jpop!!!!!!!!! #jpop is my first love!!!! #i saw that live Friday and they said they were performing again Monday and o just happened to be staying in akiba again #so guess what i did last night #i am not immune to idols also you get to take pictures with your oshi as a thank you for your first and second time coming #so after both shows i got to talk a little w the member who found me #ik it’s their job but she remembered me the second time around and also the performances themselves were so fun and cute #it just really reignited the jpop flame in me i love idols so so so much #personal #hope you are all having a nice start to your week!!!

[whyrubuyingclothesatthesoupstore]

hey do you think that keiji ended up being somewhat close to alice (enough for alice to start clearing the rubble with him if he lives in 2-2) because they were both murderers and keiji felt like they were “on the same level” morally so being too horrible to deserve a friendship with alice wasn’t an issue

#when I say friendship I mean they were probably gay but never admitted it to one another and settled on calling themselves friends #that being said #keialice #keiji shinogi #alice yabusame #yttd #your turn to die #kimi ga shine #maybe he had the same thing with q-taro because of how selfish the guy was at first. #keiji saw him trying to vote out the 'useless' members of the group and went Yeah we deserve each other probably #and then q-taro's outgrown him by 2-1

[aparticularbandit]

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what if they're called the cast of horrors

#musings #bandit brainstorms #dr1 end rewrite fic #and the other members of ultimate despair were called (by them) the shadow cast #because they're just mimicking what the actual cast does #junko enoshima and her cast of horrors #doubles as calling what they are doing an act - a show - /not real/ #junko's putting on a show! it's all scripted! it is fake! #also the horrors because what they do to the world /is/ a horror and /is horrifying/ #but also the cast of horrors #because ultimate despair (as a group) is junko's rocky horror #the thing she created to give herself a good time #(among other things) #and these are her horrors - her cast - the ones she specifically chose - the original group #and when all the shadow cast is gone the original horrors carry on #i said they wouldn't refer to themselves as the remnants of despair #and that WITHIN the group that is ultimate despair they're likely referred to as something else #and like #/the cast of horrors/ #-click-

[death2normalcy]

Stray Kids Dynamics: Changbin and Felix

Felix - For you, I like your mentality and heart and every single thing about you so I just like you for you. Honestly speaking, that's why I'm more open about it and whatever you say to me... You're giving me feedback or letting me know so I don't get hurt...

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Changbin - I want you to know that when you talk about your concerns, I'm not nice about it. I'm honest. But you take that really well and I feel grateful for that. That's what I want. Before, you used to be really weak. Very weak mentally, and I felt sorry for you, since you're my roommate and little brother. ...And since you take all that in and still come to me for advice, I'm really grateful. That's a great personality you have.

#Changbin #Felix #Stray Kids #skzedits #skzdynamics #changlix #okay listen #i adore them #i adored this episode of 2kr #they spent 16 minutes praising each other and talking about how much they love each other and the other members #there was no small talk #just them being loving people #it's the sweetest thing #i love that they themselves acknowledge how much they love the other members #but that the other members state it too #and like changbin said #all the members love each other in their own ways #but felix is arguably the one most outspoken about it #changbin is more lowkey about it i'd say #so it's nice to see that contrast #as far as that quote goes #i like that felix is just like #i love everything about you #and changbin is like #i want you to be strong so you can handle things #i like that changbin doesn't try to sugarcoat things with the members #i just love how adorable and full of love they are #a very cute friendship!