#ua traitor theory

[dafuq-i-did-not-sign-up-for-this]

Concerning the UA Traitor

I love how we as a fandom just collectively forgot that there’s probably very likely another traitor beside Aoyama in the faculty.

And with faculty I mean UA staff.

Now we all know I love my tinfoil head theories, but this actually makes some sense:

Before the traitor reveal there’s been lots and lots of theories about who could be leaking information, not few of them suspecting teachers of the treachery. Those have mostly been dismissed due to lack of emotional investment in these characters (lets not talk about Aoyama and the actual reveal here), but if you look at some of the information AfO had, a traitor or informant with more insight than a newly immatriculated student seems necessary.

Let’s go all the way back to the beginning, and ask a very fundamental question, shall we?

How did All for One know All Might would become a teacher at UA to search for a successor that exact year, early enough to tell Aoyama to apply?

The timeline is a bit messy but: Him becoming a teacher has been decided before he meets Midoriya, so at least a good ten months, more likely about a year before our Heroes start High School.

It’s stated that only the staff knew he’d start working at UA. Midoriya himself only gets to know when he gets accepted after the exams. The media would have probably gone haywire way earlier than the first week of school, had they known.

So where’s the leak? Teacher? Principal? Public Safety Commission? Discuss.

#UA traitor #ua traitor theory #bnha #aoyama yuuga #bnha all for one #bnha spoilers

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originally posted on my tiktok, just something cool i found 4 years after i bought the volume :)

#yuga aoyama #ua traitor #mha #mha theory #bnha #bnha theory #my hero academia #my hero academia theory #theory #rant #mha manga #mha vol 10 #ted talks

[pixiatn]

It's funny going through the Hagakure tag and seeing all the stuff and memes about her being the traitor

#Hagakure tooru #IM HAPPY MY BABY BEAT THE ALLEGATIONS 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽 #RAAAAAAH🦅🦅🦅🦅🔥🔥🔥 #bnha #u.a traitor #u.a traitor theory #ua traitor #by favorite character beat the allegations but unfortunately my 2nd fav could not😞 #never disrespect my queen like that again #y'all are quirkist✋🏽😒 #bnha 335 #bnha chapter 335

[deuteragonist1]

Kaminari may not be the UA traitor in canon, but he will always be the UA traitor in my heart

#rip traitor kaminari theory you are missed #aoyama is good in that role as well but traitor kaminari just had a certain je ne sais quoi #bnha #bnha manga spoilers #ua traitor #traitor kaminari theory #bnha spoilers #kaminari denki #bnha kaminari denki

[nutzgunray-lvt]

Class 1A Dynamics (Part 2)

This is going to be consolidated, so I apologize for the long length, but it's going to serve as a conclusion as to why I believe Class 1A's reputation as a found family is undeserved.

In my opinion, the Final Exam arc and Forest Camp arc is when we start to see the cracks in Class 1A's dynamics, as well as their more problematic moments that don't match how they supposedly are as characters. We do get really nice moments of Momo offering her home and services as a tutor to a handful of her classmates (Jirou's interactions with Momo's mom were really cute), but that's it.

Kirishima hears from Bakugou's former middle school friends how they and Bakugou bullied Izuku for his Quirklessness... and promptly ignores it. Mr. Anti Bully hears that the role model he looks up to was/is a bully, and does NOTHING about it. Not even when Bakugou gets them kicked out of whatever place they were studying at and blames IZUKU for it does he do anything other than say, "Lol, classic Bakugou!"

One of the biggest moments, in my opinion, is when Ochako, Ida, Momo, and Tsu (I think it was them? I can't remember) have no objections to Bakugou backhanding Izuku. They hear Recovery Girl saying that they have no communication... and take it at face value. No trying to stand up for him, no saying that Bakugou's the instigator between them, nothing.

(To say nothing how Sero failed the exam for being taken out of the arena unconcious, even though Bakugou passed despite ALSO being unconcious when he was dragged out of the arena 🙄)

The actual camp itself was pretty nice in regard to student interactions. Shouji was worried for both Tokoyami and Izuku (Izuku looked so cute being carried by Shouji 🥹), and Izuku made sure not to place Bakugou's safety over Tokoyami's when Dark Shadow went on its rampage. Tokoyami in turn was perfectly willing to sacrifice his life for Izuku, Shouji, and everyone else's safety. Aoyama risks his life and position as the traitor by clearing a path for Bakugou to get to camp. It was extremely annoying how Todoroki had to keep telling Bakugou not to run towards the villains and not to make the poison gas worse by using his Quirk (collateral damage is a concept Bakugou doesn't give a FUCK about), but I guess that was nice or whatever.

Then came the rescue.

Shouji aknowledges how guilty Izuku and Todoroki must feel about Bakugou's kidnaping, and then Kirishima and Tsu get into an arguement about whether or not to leave the rescue to the adults. I HATE how Kirishima guilted Izuku into joining the rescue. Izuku had broken limbs and a high fever to the point of having seizures. He was unconscious for three days, and for him to be told, "You can still reach him with your arms!" when everyone in class knows Bakugou would (and DID!) refuse Izuku's help is disgusting. In theory, it's nice how they take Bakugou's ego and feelings into account when they decide a small team is going to rescue him (I'll have more to say on that later). But then, Ida tries convincing Izuku not to go... by punching his sick and injured friend hard in the face. Ida, what the FUCK? Did he ever apologize for doing that?

And then not only does Bakugou not ever thank Momo, Ida, Todoroki, Kirishima, and Izuku for rescuing him and risking their place at UA, Aizawa then acts as though the class needs to regain his trust (even though they had no idea the rescue team went through with their plan) when it really should be the other way around. Great father figure he is, right?

So they move to the dorms, and we get a really nice moment where Tsu tearfully apologizes for saying that the rescue team were acting villanous in saving Bakugou. This is all well and good, but then we get to the Licensing Exam. As awesome as it was to see Ida helping Aoyama secure a place in the final round, as awesome as it was seeing everyone defer to Izuku's judgment, it all was completely undone by the bullshit house arrest.

I've gone on and on about how it's my least favorite part of the entire story, but seeing 1A not aknowledge Bakugou's bullying of Izuku yet again really soured my opinion on them. Ida especially gets the brunt of my criticism here, because as one of Izuku's best friend, he should have figured that Izuku not only didn't want to break curfew, he's NEVER looked for a fight when it came to Bakugou. And then when Izuku apologizes (barf) for defending himself, they all accept it like he did something wrong.

I HATE it, and for a while, I hated 1A because of it.

Then we get some smaller moments between that and the stupid Dark Izuku arc that are pretty nice. They express worry and relief for those involved in Eri's rescue, Izuku encourages Jirou to not be afraid to express herself musically, and Mina teaches Aoyama how to dance before the School Festival. Everyone criticizes Izuku for running around and trying to get candy apple ingredients for Eri, and they make fun of him for getting in trouble after the Gentle Criminal fight, blah blah blah. No one cheers for him or encourages him during his mock interview with Mt. Lady, but whatever.

Then Izuku leaves UA.

Not ONCE do ANY of Class 1A consider why he left, even though he literally tells them in the goddamn letters he left for them. Not once do they call out Bakugou for being the actual reason he has such low self-esteem and self sacrifical tendancies. Not once do they consider having just his closest friends find him and bring him back. After all, most of them admit they don't really know Izuku on a personal level. They don't even stand up for Momo when he jumps down her throat for not calling him by his stupid hero name.

Nope, they all decide to just bumrush him and let Bakugou lead the charge.

They let Bakugou make fun of him, project his own flaws onto him, and not once aknowledge that Izuku is neither in the physical condition nor mental condition to be hearing any of that. They then quite literally beat him into submission. Sure, some of the classmates try saying nice things to him about how he helped all of them (Dark Shadow was so gentle with Izuku 🥺), but Sato tries guilt tripping him about Eri, which is just gross.

Then comes the infamous Youtube Apology, where Bakugou talks about Izuku's Quirklessness and how that made him lesser than Bakugou in his eyes. No one reacts to any of this, and instead of just letting Izuku sleep or getting him to the fucking doctor, they throw him in a bath like that'll fix anything. We do get an awesome moment where Tokoyami and Sato call out Bakugou for bullying Izuku again despite supposedly apologizing, but that's chump change, considering what all they put Izuku through.

And then comes the traitor reveal.

I don't blame 1A for being angry at Aoyama, considering how his actions put everyone in danger, but I think it's so strange due to two things. One, Aoyama was clearly coerced into being a traitor. His parents were the ones who made the deal with AFO, and Aoyama was obviously remorseful for his actions. Two, just look at Bakugou. He was the one who not only ran towards the villains in the first place, but everyone had to keep him from making everything worse when they were trying to protect him.

And yet who's the one that gets treated with consideration and kid gloves?

Bakugou.

I can't say anything about the Final War, because everything is so fucking messy, but I guess I will say how nice it is that the class protects the girls from Mineta's sexual harrassment and don't take it laying down.

To close off, Hori did a piss poor job in showing organic development of 1A as supposed super close friends and found family. They all deserved better than what they wound up becoming, and it's just really sad all around.

#anti katsuki bakugou #izuku deserves better #anti shota aizawa #mha critical #bnha critical #horikoshi critical #class 1a critical #ejirou kirishima critical #tenya ida critical #yuuga aoyama deserves better

[deusvervewrites]

Does Aoyama go to UA regardless of AllMight teaching there?

Because if he doesn't it raises the question of how and when All For One finds out about AllMight teaching at UA. Because (I think) it is only revealed to the public post entrance exam.

Assuming Nedzu kept that information close to heart and doesn't tell investors the only way for All For One to know is already having a spy in a far more lucrative position than a student.

I think it's more likely that he just sent spies to every major hero school. Either looking for powerful quirks for him to steal or potential holders of One For All.

This is why I've seen fan theories of a Second Traitor. We don't yet know how AFO knew to send a spy to UA. However, All Might moved to Mustafu a year in advance to prepare for his teaching role--he even mentions in the exam letter that students may have wondered about it-- so it's possible AFO simply deduced it from that.

#asks #meta

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my theory academia

also known as “what i wrote in my notes app to explain my mha theories to my wife, who knows the bare minimum of mha lore”

* manga spoilers ahead *

SO i begin with Red Shoe TheoryTM

Red Shoe Theory is basically the idea that Izuku’s trademark red shoes are a specific brand made for quirkless people.

The doctor in episode one explains that quirkless people are biologically different than quirked people. one of the differences is they have a second toe joint in their toes. a very specific and odd thing to include, but go off i guess

then we see izuku’s ugly ass (affectionate) red shoes. he wears the same damn shoes since he was a kid to literally current day. no one else in the series has this type of shoe and he wears them with everything.

theory is basically bc of the toe joint, they have to wear specific shoes to accommodate.

now: this is kinda a dumb theory by itself. however, i lied when i said only one character in the series wears them.

there is two.

introducing the Shigaraki was Quirkless theory.

HandJob McGee is the only other character that wears these red ass shoes. but they’re not just red. they’re fucking identical to izuku’s. again, not super compelling at first.

until you take in account the UA traitor, Aoyama Yuuga.

he was quirkless. his parents, rich and stupid, asked AFO to give him a quirk. he gives him Naval Laser and now basically has his family enslaved and forces him to be the traitor.

something odd about aoyama’s quirk (besides that is fucking stupid) is that it hurts him. not in a “worked out too much” way but in a “can barely use it” way. he gets better with training but he can barely handle using it for a few seconds without being in pain and he is RELIANT on support gear, something people with quirks are taught not to rely on as it is a handicap in case their gear is destroyed. he has no choice and has to wear it because otherwise the fuckin bitch leaks n shit

there are two other characters who’s quirks hurt them like this. izuku and his liquified bones, who we also know was quirkless

and shiggy.

all the characters we have seen that have toxic quirks have a natural immunity or defense against it to protect them (IE: kacchan and fire, mina and acid etc)

however, shigaraki is literally flaking away. we also know that he was originally Tenko shimura and had black hair and black eyes. now tho, he has white hair and red eyes and his skin is so dry he scratches constantly.

his quirk is decay.

his body is slowly decaying itself as a reaction to the quirk because it’s not supposed to be there. he’s basically turning albino.

now. this i feel like is too obvious to not be canon but *shrugs*

AFO manipulated and groomed baby Tenko bc he’s a petty ass bitch

AFO forced decay onto bb tenko, causing him to accidentally kill his family, and be the one to find him after to “save him”, and it was planned every step of the way.

So this is easier just to go in order of tragic events.

Yoichi Shigaraki, first user of One for All, brother of All For One, so obviously All For One is a shigaraki.

Nana Shimura. Seventh user of one for all and All Might’s beloved mentor.

All Might, who is still alive and who AFO hates.

Nana Shimura. Also known as Tenko Shimura’s grandmother.

now.

nana is dead. bc afo fucking killed her.

all might is not dead and is proving to be afo’s biggest asshole to date.

all might continues to be heartbroken about nana’s death to current day. it’s no secret how important she was to him.

afo, an immortal petty bitch, thinks hmm how can i make all might suffer the most.

oh i know.

finds her quirkless grandson and says “hey lil boy i can give you a quirk! :D”

tenko, 4 and stupid, “omg really!! :D”

afo, *gives tenko a super fucking destructive quirk*

*sends him home*

(note: he could have also have it to him without tenko knowing it happened idk. the details are flexible but the main point it the important thing here)

tenko, fucking accidentally kills his entire family bc how was he supposed to know better.

afo, is immortal and rich so has people watching to make sure no one gets close to the boy and he swoops in to “save him”

proceeds to groom him and traumatize him by making him wear his fucking dead family’s hands on his body to constantly remind him he is a killer and evil and afo will be the only one to be kind and care about him

afo brainwashes tenko into forgetting what happened and who he used to be (through grooming, gaslighting, etc) and now he only knows himself as tomura shigaraki.

plans to make him basically the successor to afo and be what kills one for all/ all might is sick poetic fuckery of all might being killed by his mentors grandson.

(also adds a reason as to why nana is the only female user. to show that she is important to the story beyond just being a past user/mentor)

now this next theory has less of a hold bc of lack of evidence but i personally head canon it to be true.

Dad for One

basically. midoriya izuku’s dad, midoriya hisashi is actually AFO.

he left when izuku was diagnosed as quirkless which could be considered hypocritical considering he sought out tenko but i think afo is a dramatic bitch and wanted to fuck with all might but ALSO

tenko is older than izuku by at least a few years, so he would have already had that plan in motion and may have stuck around just to see if izuku developed a quirk worth stealing or not and decided he wasn’t worth it. or could have also just not been able to get away with using him bc of inko and the bakugous. or a little of all that idk. (i GUESS it’s possible that he also actually did care about izuku and didn’t want to hurt him but i meeeannnnn idk man i wasn’t there)

BUT BESIDES THAT

* horikoshi has confirmed that izuku’s dad would be revealed before the end of the series and we kinda don’t have many options left here (at least i saw something that said that at one point, could be bs but STILL his dad is one of the last mysteries of the show)

* afo’s fuckin face is destroyed so we can’t see any resemblance BUT Yoichi looks INCREDIBLY similar to izuku

* it honestly makes the story super fucking interesting?? like izuku is the son of afo, born quirkless, given the quirk one for all by all might, all might basically becomes dad might, and izuku is the one to take his father down with the help of the previous users (including his uncle yoichi) in an incredible poetic justice loose end tying satisfying ass ending

i also wanna add that the Dabi is Touya Todoroki theory being canon gives credibility that this story has a thing for the family drama plot line and why wouldn’t they use it in the main characters storyline?

in conclusion, i held my wife hostage for a solid hour and a half to explain these to her, not dissimilar to this meme;

and i wanted to share it bc i worked too hard on it to just delete the note lmfao

#mha #mha theory #dad for one #red shoe theory #my wife had to suffer through my rambling so i figured i should post it so others suffer with her #mha manga spoilers #mha spoilers

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There was that joke in the fandom about Horikoshi looking through fanfics to see what theories to make canon like the "Dabi being Touya" or "the UA traitor" (even tho most of those were just stuff hinted at in the canon before hand). Since we're doing the whole "sharing memories" bit, the one fanfic trope he can definitely throw in the manga right now is the "Spinner tells Shigaraki he used to have a tail that got cut off by bullies"

Is that a popular trope? Enough to be a thing Horikoshi would pick up on. I don't think it's anywhere near the same level as 'Dabi is the lost Todoroki son' and 'UA Traitor is _____'… but it would be interesting if Spinner Tail Trauma is made canon.

Though at this late stage, I don't know if I want it, to be honest! If it's a memory, it's angst fuel to develop characters other than Spinner - guy wouldn't even be there for it. It would a real iffy choice to show something deeply personal and traumatic that happened to Spinner, something so unjust, without Spinner there—and really only for the benefit of the contrived connection between Shigaraki and Deku.

I guess because Spinner is still unaccounted for, he can still show up so it doesn't have to be just a memory, but. Still leaves a bad taste in my mouth. HeroAca resolutions are less about the victims and what they're owed, and more about how cool and merciful the Heroes are for saving them. This would be that, but even more so, and infinitely worse.

Plus, it would make the heteromorph riot mini-arc even more of a mess. Not to say there's levels of suffering that can be compared, but in-universe and in story, Shoji is kinda framed as having been worst off - his parents weren't heteromorphic like him, he got bashed in the face with a rake and was heavily scarred for life after he saved a girl from drowning, then he even has to wear a mask to prevent people from thinking he's resentful for being the victim of a hate crime. All that, but he came out of it with a strong and golden moral core, ready to be a great and inspirational Hero who protects the status quo.

Shoji's positioned as being in the right: here was a kid who suffered terribly, but he still managed to overcome the odds and be a Good Person, who thought deeply about the Right Way to end discrimination and is putting it into action (which is being a model minority). So what's everyone else's excuse?

Meanwhile, Spinner's backstory is that he only gets sprayed with pesticides, succumbs to being a NEET hikikomori, and goes running off to join terrorists without a single original thought in his head. For the narrative to work, he needs to be the selfish, hypocritical loser who didn't try hard enough to overcome his hardships that were comparatively mild.

If Spinner was revealed to have a tail cut off by bullies, the bnha balance of heteromorphic good and evil would collapse. A young boy's classmates mutilates him as the apex of heteromorphobic bullying, and the victim was left to languish as a high school dropout shut-in? That's not something that can be fixed by waiting out generations (just wait for the adults to die! their mindset would go with them—oh, but the perpetrators are the new generation…) or having the victim change their behavior (there's just no excuse for chopping off a child's body part). That reveals something much darker in the fabric of society that Heroes' plucky 'work-harder! plus ultra!' optimism are unequiped to handle.

At the very least, it's something that "Stop holding a grudge" and "Sorry for not realizing earlier" (as the rando hero tells the PLF guy in Chapter 373) and "Shine bright until your torments feel ashamed" are utterly insufficient and unconvincing in resolving. Not quite as inspirational, you know?

I'm sorry anon! I know you were asking as a joke, offering a fun idea. And I do like it! I'm still not opposed to Spinner having that canon backstory if the writing around it was to suddenly radically change the story and expand it by 300 more chapters to fix everything. I still love the idea that Spinner had a tail. I just took it too seriously and overthought it. My apologies. Thanks for the ask.

#Spinner #Iguchi Shuuichu #nalslastworkingbraincell #ask #asked #answered #anon #anonymous

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I never liked the Traitor twist. If I were given a chance to rewrite it, here's how I would've done it.

Instead of a traitor, it would instead be a person with a quirk to travel as a shadow, that would explain how they would be able to get the information for the USJ and the Training Camp. and Izuku could even have a bit of a meetup with them who blackmails him into keeping quiet about who they are or else they'll reveal he's the reason All Might retired.

They're a spy for hire, charging a hefty price to spill/keep secrets to villains. As being in the shadows can help with learning various things about people, no matter how big or small.

And to top it all off... they were previously a student of Aizawa's class that was expelled for "not having enough potential" Thus they couldn't face their family and ran away from home, becoming a villain.

This would show the effects of Aizawa's expulsion and how it's not as clear cut as he thinks it is, that it actually has negative consequences and where his students might end up. This would make Aizawa think twice and realize that his expulsions did more harm than good and now it's come back to hit him with the cold reality.

Hi @theloganator101 👋,

That is an excellent rewrite of the Traitor twist because how Hori wrote it in canon it just doesn't make sense.

1) Yuuga should have been caught way before now. He doesn't have invisibility to conceivably sneak around the way that Toru does. And UA should have security cameras.

2) He is one of the bottom students of the class. An argument could be made that he was hiding some of his skill set but Hori doesn't set that up (unlike that moment in the sports festival when he did for Kaminari) beyond occaisional fourth wall breaks.

3) What even is Aoyama doing as traitor? I've seen @justatalkingface talk about how they would have utilised the traitor plot and it is so scary and narrative breaking how AFO could have used this effectively yet he just didn't... For some reason. (A DFO argument could be made here, yet even if this theory turns out being true, AFO has no reason not to go after All Might, the rest of the staff and students properly.)

4) How is he getting Info to AFO directly without the staff / students with hearing quirks finding out? This just is a plot hole. Perhaps Yuuga didn't call, perhaps he passed on coded messages to his parents, perhaps... Nothing. This is giving Hori too much credit. You can't tell me Nedzu didn't monitor communications of everyone when they were in the dorms via the schools wifi / network. Nedzu should think something is suss especially if a student is talking with their parents in code.

5) The parallels with Izu are perhaps the only positive thing about this. But even that is utilised poorly. Izuku isn't allowed to reflect on his own past once when this Aoyama situation should have opened a lot of old wounds for him. Izuku wasn't allowed to think of the grey area of this situation once he brushed off Mic's concerns that they were all victims here along with Toru and Ojiro's hurt to tell Aoyama "you can still be a hero." While this is nice for Yuuga (since he was a traitor by force) it brushes off everyone elses feelings on the matter. Izuku has become more and more black and white as a character (and in his views) and this starkly highlights it.

Furthermore, your version where a villainous ex-student of Aizawa's with a shadow quirk is the cause of the traitor suspicions is much more interesting and plausible.

It would make more sense for them to be able to sneak around undetected.

It confronts Aizawa with the devastating impact of his teaching without any narrative cushioning.

It encourage Aizawa to grow as a teacher or quit after getting 1A through their first year.

This would tie the class closer together rather than tearing them apart and pitting members against each other (which is why I dislike the Izuku vs 1A fight along with how this Traitor arc was handled.)

It makes Nedzu look like less of a moron in general for the disbelief of Mic suggesting there is a traitor because he wouldn't be able to see any evidence of one in the cameras or student communications.

#mha critical #bnha critical #anti aizawa shota #Anti Aizawa

[sapphic-agent]

There are so many interesting aspects of MHA worldbuilding/academia that we never got to see, and it pains me.

For a world that doesn't allow people to use their Quirks in public areas, how do 1A (bar Izuku, Kaminari, and Aoyama) have such control over their Quirks? Are there gyms or training facilities they can go to in order to train their Quirks? I'm assuming Yaoyorozu and Ida got some form of private training, given their wealth, and Todoroki had been trained by Endeavor from age 4/5.

How exactly do the work studies even function? They're optional and located all across Japan, so how do they make up the absences? How do they keep up with their schoolwork? Does UA pay for lodging? Why are the lowest ranked students in class even allowed to go on a work study if their grades are so bad? How has Oboro dying and the Shie Hassaikai raid not given UA even more bad press, considering that Sir Nighteye was killed and many UA students were injured? Nedzu mentioned "restarting" the work studies, so I assume maybe Oboro's death caused UA to pause them?

We also see in universe that the teachers disagree with Nedzu/the establishment on how UA should be run. Snipe didn't want the Sports Festival being held so soon after the USJ Attack. Present Mic was rightfully upset that his traitor theory was being shot down (wonder how they all felt when they found out he was right). All Might didn't like the first years being on work studies to begin with. Later on, Snipe, Cementoss, and Vlad King didn't want the work studies being made mandatory (though that last one was due to the HPSC).

It's funny you say this because I was actually somewhat thinking about this topic.

One thing that always nagged at me was that Yaoyorozu and Todoroki were really the only 1A students who were exemplary (I'm excluding Bakugou here for a second). It's supposed to be the best hero school in the world, yet it's only the two of them who actually show that off (with their quirk control, Yaoyorozu with her intelligence, and Todoroki with his raw strength). They should have been the expectation, not the exception.

Don't get me wrong, other 1A students like Kirishima and Tokoyami are good with their quirks, but not to the level that those two were at the beginning. To get into the greatest hero school in the world, you would expect more exceptional students. Even looking at a wider scope, the only other examples we can point to are the Big Three (and maybe Kendo but we don't see much of her skills beyond her fight with Yaoyorozu).

It would have been way more impactful for Izuku and Bakugou to get there and see how far behind they were (mostly Bakugou as Izuku already experienced this somewhat). Bakugou being the second best right of the bat makes no sense when Todoroki, Yaoyorozu, and Iida have (presumably) has the best training and tutoring possible (I will never stop being salty about Bakugou beating out Todoroki in class ranking, in what world does that even make sense). If this was going to be the best hero school in the world, there should have been students who have pushed themselves to the limits their entire life. Bakugou getting there and seeing that he wasn't any more special than everyone else would have been way more impactful. They both should have spent more time playing catch up.

But I'm rambling. UA in and of itself is just messy and the story just doesn't go into depth past surface level in any aspect. The only time Horikoshi starts to do this is with Lady Nagant, but even then a lot of society and its impact on her is left in the air

#mha critical #bnha critical #ua critical #yuuei critical #anti bakugou katsuki #just to be safe #ask

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so I'm going to answer this with the long answer I had typed for this since some wanted to hear it, putting it under read more

oh haha um well it's complicated to say the least

there was a point in time (2021-early 2023) where I was a super hardcore believer, I wrote and read tons of fanfic about it, bought a zine about it, made meta about it, argued with anti dfo who got angry at me in the replies and even joined discord servers about dfo because I was really in love with this theory

but as of late I find myself just not want wanting it at all and actually dislike the thought of it being canon. for numerous reasons I'll get into

first off I feel at this point it'll just be super rushed. maybe if it was done earlier I would've been more warmer towards it as there would actually be time to digest this info. it would be a huge deal with a hero being the son of the number one villain, if it were to be canon I would want a full self reflection from Izuku, more about his mom and her thoughts and feelings about this, flashbacks to inko and afo's first encounter and marriage in its early days, maybe afo trying to isolate Izuku further by releasing this information publicly and turning civilians and some heroes against him. having him and his mom shunned by a lot of people (people calling izuku devils spawn), getting to see his classmates reactions, all mights reaction (!!!). maybe a talk with the vestiges about it and just stuff like that.

but there's no hope of ever getting any of that if it's revealed now. it's the middle of battle and at most I could see Izuku probably being shocked, afo taking advantage of his shock for a brief moment then we move on. which is very :/, feels like it would just be cheap shock value at that point so why even include it when it feels more detrimental than something interesting. maybe he could make it canon and have it not be rushed, but considering how he's treated the other plot points like the ua traitor plot and machia's kind of out of nowhere betrayal in this arc, I'm inclined to believe it would be rushed and messy as well.

I think I'm far more interested in seeing how afo and tomura's struggle plays out and afo's final encounter with yoichi and an exploration of his past and the person that afo is, rather than some last minute revelation that ends up not adding much to the story.

also the fact that izuku never thinks about hisashi once also plays into me being very "what's the point of having this" here. I know him having his memories tampered with is a popular theory but to me sounds like an awkward way to bypass the fact your main character didn't reflect once on something that ended up being extremely important later. I don't see any evidence of that either, at least with tomura he had some hazy recall about his past before everything came back to him with izuku we get nothing at all about hisashi. at least do where he vaguely remembers a tall man with an eerie presence and gentle smile that didn't reach his eyes whose face is obscured in shadow saying he's going on a short business trip and then he never came back after.

the next reason is I don't really like the more popular fanon characterizations of afo in dfo's settings (and the way people try integrating it with canon) not getting into this as I don't want to step on any toes, but this thing particularly has really turned me off from the theory as a whole.

also I hate the way some dfo fans treat afo, I remember it being common at one point for people to be like "lol afo is only interesting if dfo is true without it he's just some dumb one dimensional villain". when that's not the case, he has a lot of interesting things going on for him. I just hate how some only see his worth in whether he is izuku's dad or not. not all dfo fans think like this though, I'm not generalizing all of them it's just some do this and it irks me so bad. (and to be honest I used to be like this too, but I've changed)

and I also feel like a lot get too caught up in dfo stuff that they end up neglecting afo's character as a whole and it leads to some poor interpretations of his character and certain scenes because I feel some are trying too hard to find evidence/justification that they miss out on some of the more interesting dimensions of his character. not saying all of them do this, but I've seen enough of this along with other stuff I've said that's made me more :/ towards the theory as of late

another thing is that I guess I've also just grew tired of waiting? some people can only wait for so long before they change their minds on things they've used to love. and as I've said before in my first point too I just don't see the point anymore. I don't think even if it does happen we'll get some super in depth look at it and how it affects izuku and other characters. I was more passionate about it during the time where it seemed like we could get a good look into it, but not I'm more meh as it seems like we won't.

that said I do not have anything against dfo theorists. some of my favorite writers are big dfo proponents, one of my favorite fanfics of all time happens to be a dfo fanfic. I have some au's of my own about it and I enjoy reading others au's and I do enjoy the occasional dfo art piece. a lot of dfo theorists in my experience are really nice too.

I think it's so stupid how angry people get at dfo theorists, how you can't mention it outside your circle without risk of being insulted or jumped on. which I have experienced before in my dfo days (not on here though). at the end of the day it's just a little theory people have come up with, if it comes true then whatever if it doesn't then whatever right? just leave people alone and even if you disagree with them at least be respectful. it would be neat if fans with differing opinions on stuff in the story could come together and have an actual conversation once in a while so both sides could better understand each other, but sadly this is the Internet and disagreements like that usually result in a angry back and forth exchanges filled with insults.

as a whole I'm not interested in the dfo theory anymore to me it's something I would prefer to just remain a fanon thing rather than something that becomes canon. but yeah these days it's just very rare for me to read it, it's not something I seek out and I usually only read it from authors I already trust. but if someone wanted me to read their dfo fic and they were nice about it well I wouldn't be opposed to reading it. I don't mind if someone wants to talk about it with me either. I like talking about afo as a whole even if it's in the realms of a theory I'm not crazy about.

I guess I am grateful to dfo in a way as its what made me really take notice of afo in the first place. It made me look more into scenes that he was in and over time I ended up liking him more than the theory itself and ended up just abandoning the theory as a whole. I don't think I would be as in love with him as I am now if it weren't for dfo making me a take closer look at him. also believe it when they say the dfo theorist to afo simping pipeline is real because it happened to me. if you're keeping this man constantly in your thoughts theres a chance it could happen to you.

overall I don't feel like it's going to be canon anymore? I don't really care for it being canon either. there's too much stuff going on that still needs to be wrapped up and I think dfo wouldn't be able to fit in all of it. the only things I would say make me hesitate about it being true is the fact he said hisashi will be revealed back in 2018 and some of the meanings behind hisashi's name. but generally feeling like there's a 20% chance of it happening seeing where we are as of now. I think past me would've been horrified to hear me say this now because I used to be extremely confident it would happen but things change

anyways you wanted my opinion and there it is, this is just how I feel and you're free to disagree with me as long as you're not rude about it.

#yeah I've been kind of skirting around saying my opinion on it because I know a lot of y'all enjoy it and I don't want to be a jerk #but this is how I feel 😓

[bokunodumbassery]

(I just want to infodump. If you aren’t interested, feel free to scroll. This might turn into more of a guide or overview of what I know in the fandom so far; discussion is welcome and appreciated!!!)

So. BNHA fan-devised quirk theory!!! Because the fandom is better at clarifying worldbuilding in BNHA than Horikoshi himself.

The term ‘secondary mutation’ pops up a lot, and it’s probably one of the more important ones to understand. The idea is that, there are quirks, which are the actual power, and the secondary mutations, which are evolutionary characteristics developed to support that power. For example, Toga likely has an immune system specifically designed to fight the diseases she’s get from drinking random strangers’ blood, and Uraraka is probably actually more resistant to nausea and G-force to handle her quirk’s drawbacks.

Sometimes, a character has a secondary mutation without the quirk, or (in extremely rare circumstances usually related to a quirk being given/stolen) a quirk without the mutation. For example, Midoriya’s green hair - he doesn’t use it for anything because he was born quirkless, but presumably someone in his ancestry had a quirk that was supported by having green hair, so it became an evolutionary trait.

When you have a character with a quirk and no secondary mutation, however, things get interesting (spoiler alert for UA Traitor). Aoyama, being originally quirkless before recieving a quirk from AFO, has no secondary mutation to deal with his quirk; hence, the “drawback” of the stomach aches hurting him. This can also be seen in Izuku’s chronic bone-breaking tendencies, although not to the extent that it should, which is where a lot of Dad for One theories come in. And, weirdly enough (although I haven’t seen many people talk about this out of the context of Dad for One yet), a lack of secondary mutations in the brain may be the reason for the Nomus’ lack of sentience - there has to be SOME part of the brain that processes how/when/if you’re going to use your quirk, and it stands to reason that if you have too many quirks, your brain can’t do that.

That’s also why a lot of people believe in Dad for One; from a worldbuilding perspective, it’s the best explanation for why Midoriya of all people unlocked OFA’s potential through Quirk Singularity. Midoriya having a secondary mutation, passed down from his father, that allows him to hold multiple quirks would theoretically explain why it is that Midoriya can hold all the past users’ quirks without becoming a nomu.

(Technically, you can argue that OFA changes the user’s DNA to make them compatible, but that obviously has limits, as seen in Midoriya’s chronic bone breaking. If that limit is hit before the quirk even reaches singularity, then how would he stay sentient with nine quirks in his brain??? Also, why would OFA reach singularity when Izuku is quirkless and has nothing (quirk-wise) to combine the quirk with, if not for a wierdly specific secondary mutation that comes from the same family line as the first holder?)

If you read on ao3 among the ‘Dad for One’ or ‘Quirk Theory’ tags, or longer fics that mainly centre around that area, you probably know most of this already. If you’re interested in quirk theory, I would definitely recommend checking that area of fanfics out. Even if you aren’t; a lot of these fics are really good!

#bnha #bnha vigilantes #quirk theory #all for one #dad for one

[marunalu]

Hi! I just wanna say that I love your posts when it comes to the dad for one theory (considering that I love the theory myself and have been a fan of it for a long time) and they really erase my doubts about it (for the most part). Although there will be those who oppose this theory and come up with things that might make sense idk. I kinda want to know your thoughts on those who think that dad for one might instead cheapen izuku's (and by extension inko's) character

Awww thank you for your kind words and Im happy that you like my dfo posts 🥰. I get what you mean, one moment you believe a theory is 100% true and then one person comes with a very solid counter argument and you feel like your whole world view was just smashed into pieces, no matter how much prove you have on hand! 😂

But when it comes to dfo Im absolutely convinced its canon, the only argument against it that people had for years was "bUT hISaShI hAs aN fIRebrEaTh qUirK" and they still use that argument, or that afo doesnt have freckles, almost as if a child cant have freckles even if the parents dont have them.

I have no idea why people think it would cheapen izukus character, personally I feel it would flash him out. People fear we will get an "Im your father" copy reveal but hori writes his twists better then that. Look at the "dabi is touya" reveal and how well done it was or the ua traitor reveal. Hori is good in writing twists, he will not do a cheap empire strikes back darth vader reveal. There is so much potential in izukus and his fathers relationship, so much drama to unfold, alone afos backstory and why he startet a family in the first place or what his plans were at that time is so fascinating to think about.

I saw a lot of people claiming, that it would turn izuku in some kind of "choosen one" if he is afos son or that it would destroy the message that even a "nobody" can turn into a great hero! I dont see it that way. Izuku trained his ass off to be able to control ofa and to be seen as worthy to have it, trained harder then anyone else in his class and archieved things in just one year not even pro heroes have archieved in their whole career. And he managed that thanks through pure willpower, his own talent and stubbornness. It has nothing to do with his potential parentage, because his father isnt even part of his life as far as we know! Izuku is special because he made himself special! He isnt special because of his dna, so no I dont get why people think it cheapens his character! He still would have archieved this things, no matter if afo is his dad or not!

#bnha #bnha dad for one #izuku midoriya #dad for one theory

[gentrychild]

Yuga Aayoma for HC! Please ｡◕‿◕｡

Thank you for giving me that name, Anon. I have been waiting for it.

Obviously many spoilers under the cut.

His parents' families used to be rich and now they are only well-off.

Has rich relatives in France.

Speaks French fluently but it's not his first language and it doesn't come to him as naturally as Japanese.

Was so terrified when he met AFO that he couldn't speak nor move during their first encounter. Ironically enough, AFO had toned down the aura of Menace and Death since he was a kid.

Was under the impression that he would get to pick the quirk he wanted. That wasn't the case.

His parents were aware that the quirk might not be compatible with his body.

Before he got the belt, the pain was enough for him to ask his parents to call the mister and take the quirk back.

Was convinced that Izuku was another UA traitor and didn't get the confirmation that he wasn't until they dragged him back to UA and he explained some stuff about how his quirk worked. Yes, even the letter when he admitted that he got the quirk from All Might wasn't enough.

When Izuku broke all of his limbs during the entrance exam, Aoyama thought that All for One had sent another mole to make sure that he had at least one spy in UA.

He was also worried for a time that Izuku was there to spy on him and report any potential change of mind to AFO.

Was very worried about Izuku's "student debt" because he got a lousy quirk that hurt his body and was blackmailed into betraying all of his classmates to villains so he was a little afraid for what Izuku got to do for the bone-breaking quirk, the quirk he got right after Hosu, then all of the others.

His theory was that while he was here to be the UA spy, Izuku was here to spy on All Might himself.

Seriously, he alternated between "Nah, this is a coincidence and I am just being paranoid" and "THAT'S A SPY." It made every conversation with Izuku extremely frustrating on his end.

His love language is cheese.

If it wasn't for his parents constantly begging him to obey or they would all die, he would have admitted the whole thing to All Might.

He wasn't told that the League would attack the Summer Camp but obviously, he knew since he got them the coordinates. That's why he was sick during the car trip.

Dabi didn't know that he was the UA traitor and he was spared only because he was amused to see a "future hero" hiding and cowering in fear.

Has insane core strength, which leads to extremely good balance and physical stability.

Has access to his parents' wine cellar and they wouldn't mind him sharing a glass of wine with them at dinner but rarely indulges because no thrill.

The entire family celebrated seeing AFO gets his face punched in at Kamino. Pretty sure they watched it on a loop.

Worthy of respect because he managed to keep a straight face when AFO told him to get into UA (the high school equivalent of Harvard) or else...

Has the uncanny ability of always managing to throw paper balls into a bin. It would be hilarious if that was his true quirk all along.

#aoyama yuuga #character hc game #closed ask game

[nutzgunray-lvt]

Interesting fanfic concepts that I may or may not write (not sure yet):

EDIT: crossed out the ones that I already wrote!

- During the 1st light novel, Black Whip manifests due to the belief that Inko is genuinely in danger

- 1A not trusting Aizawa outside of life/death situations, leading to the other teachers calling him out on this

- A sub idea to the above: the other teachers and students noticing how Izuku is singled out by Aizawa, and Aizawa gets called out on this

- At the UA Apology Tour conference, the journalist pushes back on Aizawa's claim that Bakugou's hard work absolves him of his behavior - pointing out that he got no rescue points during the Entrance Exam (someone leaks it to the media, idk) and that Aizawa has expelled other students for much less, leading to the students coming to the press conference to call him out

- A sub idea to the above: the media points out Fumikage's attempted kidnapping (realistically he would have told the police) and Izuku being on the LOV's priority kill list, as well as his kidnapping and attack in the mall just days before

- ANOTHER sub idea: the media calls out UA for prioritizing their ego/face over the students' safety in holding the Sports Festival so soon after the USJ attack, since the Sports Festival led to the attack on the forest

- Being at home at least meant Izuku had some time away from Bakugou and Aizawa. Being in the dorms takes that freedom away, and Izuku isn't adjusting well

- Aizawa finds out about Izuku accidentally destroying his room in his sleep. His past treatment of Izuku leads the boy to be less than forthcoming about what caused it

- The OFA vestiges are quite protective of Izuku and show it in their own ways

- Class 1A (especially certain members) noticed that they've been put on the backburner for Shinsou, and so have the other teachers

- All Might and King Vlad take Midnight and Aizawa to task for not interfering sooner when Black Whip manifested during the training exercise (or the Black Whip fiasco leads to some completely preventable injuries)

- After Izuku leaves UA, the teachers and Class 1A reflect on how he's been treated by everyone around him while shouldering the burdens he's been carrying

- A sub idea to the above: the Class 1A vs Izuku fight results in Izuku calling them out on following Bakugou and ignoring his reasoning for leaving, resulting in him running away and succumbing to his injuries (featuring the vestiges, the second one in particular)

- A sub sub idea to the above: Class 1A and the teachers finally have an actual talk with Izuku about his issues when he's brought back to UA and put under Recovery Girl's care (because there's no way in hell Izuku was fine after just a bath and a nap)

- UA's traitor reacts earlier, leading the staff to realize that they shouldn't have dismissed Present Mic's traitor theory

- Present Mic reflects on Aizawa's treatment of him, his students, and how Oboro's death turned them both into different people

- Izuku is allowed to be resentful of how people tear him down and dismiss him (namely, how Bakugou received over 3,000 offers despite his behavior while Izuku received only 1, Izuku being the Problem Child despite not even being the mastermind behind Bakugou's rescue, and that his mumbling is dismissed/made fun of)

#izuku deserves better #anti shota aizawa #anti aizawa shota

[pikahlua]

has any of your theories or predictions become canon?

Well, anon, I think you probably have realized that a lot of what I do on this blog IS just make theories for funsies, and obviously I cannot hold to each theory 100% because many of them contradict each other. Whenever I gloat about "calling it" in MHA, I usually am doing so half-sarcastically, because some of the things I've "predicted" have been hedged or were too vague to count as true predictions. Sometimes I also just like to take a theory as far as I can stretch it by jumping to wild conclusions when the answer turns out to be simpler.

HOWEVER, IF YOU MUST KNOW...

The predictions that became canon I currently can recall:

Katsuki's hero name will be Dynamight

Izuku in his vigilante phase would be saved by all of Class 1-A together

Izuku's vigilante arc would showcase how he hasn't learned to value teamwork yet

The utility of two OFA quirks, Danger Sense and Smokescreen, did turn out to be for stealth/reconnaissance

Katsuki would apologize to Izuku

The answer to Ochako's question of "who saves the heroes?" would be the civilians

Considering the ambiguity of singular/plural words in Japanese, the final word in "This is the story of how I became the greatest hero" would actually turn out to be "heroes"

Yuuga Aoyama is the UA traitor

The general progression of Star & Stripe's arc

Shouto would not use Flashfire Fist against Dabi

Shouto vs Dabi ain't done yet

Katsuki will be exploited as Izuku's weakness

That one panel in chapter 345 was heavily foreshadowing something very bad was about to happen to Katsuki featuring the possibility Katsuki will try to self-destruct to take TomurAFO down

The Second's quirk is a variation of super speed

These predictions I never wrote about so you will just have to take my word that I had them in like 2018:

Katsuki would have to save Izuku and potentially fail (fulfilled by "Katsuki Bakugou Rising")

Izuku would give OFA to Katsuki (fulfilled by the ending of Heroes Rising)

Both Katsuki's and Izuku's teams would win their matches in the JTA

And lastly, here's how that bingo card is currently going:

And I'll probably think of like 5 more I forgot to list while lying in bed tonight.

#anon ask #ask pika #my hero academia spoilers #final showdown spoilers #meta #theory #i basically started this blog with the accidentally genius joke about Dynamight