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carmyboobear · 1 month

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Omg do you have any more to say about sub carmy??? Literally obsessed with the idea😵‍💫

I’m sorry. I had too much to say.

Rating: Explicit (2.3k)

Tags: sub carmy, overstimulation, edging, use of toys (cock ring), praise kink, dom/sub dynamics, cum play, riding, oral (both), face sitting

It’s unreal, the way Carmy unravels so easily at your touch. With the rights words, he’ll come on the spot. It’s hot, but frustrating for you, not because you’re mad at him for coming, but because you’ve never quite had your fill playing with him. Luckily, the two of you figure out a solution:

A cock ring.

“How it feel? Not too tight, is it?” After lubing Carmy’s cock and the toy up, you’ve slipped the silicone ring at the base of his shaft, fitted right above his balls. He’s starting to harden in your slippery hands.

“No, it’s good. Just right,” Carmy sighs. He’s leaned back against a pile of cushions on your bed, clothes shucked to the side. Your eyes follow the rise and fall of his chest before looking back at his cock. Your hands itch to squeeze at his chest, run your fingers through the little curls there, but not right now. You can’t.

“I’ve set a timer for 20 minutes.” You’re walking him through it again as you start corkscrewing your fist up and down his length. He nods through little breathy moans, his curls falling into his face. “If you need to take the ring off before then, what do you say?”

“I’ll say red,” Carmy answers obediently. “Green is good, yellow is slow down.”

“Good boy,” you praise, pleased. Just for that, you kiss the tip of his hardened cock, and his breath hitches. “You’re so good, letting me play with you like this. I’m so lucky.”

“Mm, I think, I think I’m the lucky one,” he mumbles with an amused smile.

“Maybe we both are.”

“Yeah, maybe—ah—“ His words dissolves into a soft moan when he feels the heat of your mouth enclosing around the head of his cock.

It’s such a turn on to see him to like this, to be the one making him like this. As you suck and lick up and down the underside of his length, running your tongue along the bulging veins, Carmy sings for you, breathy and sweet. It makes your stomach broil, your pussy pulsing under your panties.

“It’s only been a couple minutes,” you tease, popping off his cock. You lick at your lips to break the strings of saliva that connect you to him.

“S-Seriously?” Carmy leans his flushed face into one of the pillows with a deep sigh. “I’m not gonna last…”

“Oh, but you will.” As a reminder, your fingers trace the ring snug around his cock. It’s doing its job perfectly. His erection is stiff and pumped with arousal as ever, just what it looks like when he’s about to come, but he can’t. You won’t let him, not until the 20 minutes are up. “Give me a color, Carmy.”

“G-Green,” he stammers, eyes glued onto you. You’re peeling off your sticky underwear and moving to straddle his hips.

“Mm, good.” You’re warming lube in your hands before rubbing it on your pussy and his cock. You’re gonna be riding him for a while, and time is of the essence. “You ready for me?”

“Yes, please,” he whispers, polite and perfect. Who are you to deny that?

“Oh, Carmy baby, you’re so hard for me…” Your folds bracket his bulbous, shiny tip, rubbing all over it. He makes a weak noise as you sink down on him, your hole slowly stretching around him. The lube makes it easier, quicker.

“Fuck,” Carmy whines, chest raising up and down steadily. You’re fully seated on his cock, and liquid heat fills every space inside you. You’re panting, adjusting to his thickness, squeezing and wetting his cock.

“Does it feel good inside me?” You ask, voice sweet and quiet. You run your thumb down his cute little happy trail.

“Feels so good,” Carmy pants, “so hot.”

“I can feel you twitching in my pussy, Carmy.” He makes a small, high pitched noise at that, somewhere in the back of his throat. “You wanna come already?”

“Yeah,” he whines, hips jutting forward into you. It hits a soft spot that makes you stagger, pause for a second to catch your breath.

“Well, too bad,” you whisper, and you start moving.

You start slow, almost unbearably slow. You drag yourself up his cock until just the head is snug inside you. You let yourself squeeze on it for a couple seconds, just to make him moan, before sliding back down the entirety of his length. It’s gradual, it’s steady, and it’s bringing Carmy to tears.

“I wanna come,” he whines, desperate. He’s strewn messily across the sheets. You think his cock’s gotten even harder inside of you.

“You’re not even halfway yet,” you scold him, and he makes a needy noise of protest. “Do you want to stop already?” You know you’re being mean, but you can’t help it. Not when he gets like this.

“N-No. I don’t.”

“Then be a good boy and take it.” You keep riding him at that slow, torturous pace, but you bring one of your hands up his chest. “You what to say when you want to stop. Give me a color.”

“…Green,” he whispers, little beads of tears in the corners of his eyes, and you smile.

Of course. You keep riding him, your pussy slowly and softly sucking up and down his throbbing cock, and he takes it, keeps taking it all.

“You’re so pretty like this, you know.” You start rolling around one his nipples under the pad of your thumb, and his whole body tightens up. “So pretty, so lovely.”

And he really is. God, he really is. You ogle openly at the ways the muscles in his arm go rigid when he fists the sheets, white-knuckles and tight. His tattoos move with the shift in his muscles. The hand that’s playing with his nipples moves to trace the faded triangle of ink on his chest.

“I wanna come on your pretty cock, baby,” you whisper to him, like it’s a confession. He whines at your words, bucking up into you, and you stifle a moan. “Can you handle it?”

“Mm, I, I don’t, I dunno,” he pants helplessly. There’s beads of sweat forming on his forehead. “H-How much longer?”

“You’re almost halfway now,” you inform him with a pleased, almost devious tone to it, and his whimper is so desperate and pathetic it makes you pulse. You’ve never seen him so worked up like this, never felt him so hard inside you like this before.

“Only halfway?” He repeats weakly, eyes momentarily squeezing shut. “Fuck—fuck—okay.” He breathes in deeply in a poor attempt to steady himself, but it doesn’t seem to do much.

“Such a good boy,” you moan, “so good for me.” One of your hands is rubbing at your clit now, pushing you closer and closer to your orgasm. It seems Carmy can feel it, too, with the way his louder and louder moans are timed with the tightening of your pussy. He’s rutting into you to no avail, chasing an orgasm he can’t have. The push of his cock into your hole makes an audible slick noise, over and over.

You lean down to seal your mouth against his bitten, moaning lips, and Carmy moans like an angel into your mouth. It’s messy, hasty, liquid and hot with your tongues gliding against each others. He tastes so good on your tongue. Spit’s smearing all over your mouth, down your chin, but you don’t care at all. Neither does he.

“Fuck, oh, Carmy, I’m gonna come,” you realize, the winding screw in your belly twisting tighter and tighter with each thrust. You pull back to look at him, and you’re squeezing down even tighter at the sight. His eyes are half-lidded and teary, wet and overwhelmed, and his kissed lips are reddened and glossy with your spit. Or his. It doesn’t matter. An even pink flush colors his face. He looks well-fucked, and just looking at him like this is what makes you come.

“God—shhhit—“ Carmy’s mouth hangs open in an o as you orgasm tightly around his cock. He’s gasping for dear life, chest heaving with the effort of it. “Oh my god—“

“So fucking p-perfect—so pretty—“ you’re seated and rutting on his cock through your orgasm that rips through you, blinding you from everything except for Carmy. “J-Just seeing like you like this, it, it makes me come—god, you sound so pretty—“

He moans raggedly from your praise. His thrusts have become much more forceful, much needier. He grinds in you for the rest of your orgasm, reveling in every contraction your pussy has to give.

You’re still seated on his cock when you’re finished coming. Carmy’s at his limit, pleading endlessly for you to let him come. He’s clearly so hard and wound up he can hardly think anymore.

“Please let me come, fuck, please,” Carmy begs. There’s faint tear tracks on his cheeks, a testament to how far gone he is. “I tried, I, I just can’t anymore—I need to come—“

“Shh, baby, I got you,” you soothe him, sloppily pressing kisses to his whining lips. You slide slowly off of him and lower your hands to take off the cock ring. Before you do, you soak in the sight of him rigid and covered in your cream. He’s so hard it looks a little painful. “You did so good for me… I’ll even let you choose where you wanna come. You wanna come on my face? In my mouth?”

“I wanna come on your pussy,” Carmy pleads, immediately honest in his desperate haze, and it sends a dull jolt through you. Fuck.

“So dirty, Carm,” you murmur, breathless with how turned on that made you. You position yourself between him, angling him towards your pussy. “Of course. Anything you want. I can’t wait to see you come. I’m gonna take the ring off now, okay? Come all over my pussy like a good boy.”

With careful fingers, you pull the silicone ring off of his throbbing cock. You barely get it off before white cum shoots out of his cock.

Carmy practically sobs as he comes. You’ve never heard him cry like this before. You’re gentle as you stroke him through his searing orgasm, thinking he must be impossibly sensitive. His entire body shakes as he comes, as the pleasure rips through him.

His cock spurts over and over, covering your pussy in ropes of cum. You push your hips forward and use one hand to spread your tender folds. When his warm come hits your pussy, globs gelling over your clit, you moan from the sensation. He’s coming so much…

His cock releases a couple more weak squirts to dribble down your hand before softening. Carmy’s strewn limply across the bed, taking in deep, steady breaths. His expression is dazed, the look of someone that got fucked hard.

You shuffle towards him, knees still on either side of him when you lean down to peck his face. He makes a little noise of acknowledgement.

“Must’ve felt good, hm?” You smile as his blissful expression flashes with embarrassment. “Never heard you sound like that…”

“Good is an understatement,” Carmy laughs, voice a little hoarse. “I’ve never…felt anything like that. Holy fuck. That was just…”

“Yeah? It looked like it felt really good.” Cum drips down your pussy and off onto his lower stomach, and that makes the two of you look down.

“Let me see.” His eyes are stuck to your pussy, covered in his come. “Closer, please.”

With him laying down still, you straddle further up his torso, legs parted around his waist. You watch his face as you snake a hand down to your pussy, covered in his cum. Your fingers smear his fluid over your folds, bringing them up to your clit, rubbing it slowly… Your hand’s all sticky with both of your orgasms. And through it all, Carmy’s eyes track your hand, entranced.

“You like what you see?” You tease, and the joking way you say it makes the both of you laugh.

“Very much so.” Carmy reaches out and gently swipes his thumb over your cum-smeared clit, and you stiffen. “Fuck…you’re so wet…“

“Mm, yeah,” you say breathily. His thumb’s rubbing your wet clit back and forth. “Hhah—Carmy—“

“Let me clean you up?” His other hands runs up your thigh, squeezes at your ass. “You don’t have to, but I, I really want you to sit on my face.” His thumb presses down harder, and you whine.

“You’re, um, not too worn out? Ah—“ You feel two long fingers pump inside of you, once, twice before sliding out. You gasp.

“I mean, kinda, but…” Carmy brings his glistening fingers into his mouth, sucking on them. His eyes shut briefly as he revels in the taste of you. His fingers pop out completely clean. Fuck. “I wanna see how you taste with my cum.”

“Fuck,” you mutter under your breath. Your arousal is swirling thickly again inside of you, something fierce and devastating. “Yes, god, okay. Please.”

That’s how you end up coming again, riding his face and smearing your cum and his all over his nose, cheeks, and mouth. His tongue is so warm and soft against your pussy, licking over every fold and crevice. You grind your needy clit against the surface of his tongue, stuck out just for you.

When you finally stop grinding your pussy against his face and pull back, you’re greeted with an even better sight than before. He has this pleased, dazed smile on his flushed, messy face, like he doesn’t even care that his skin is covered in fluids. He probably doesn’t care at all—knowing him, he’s reveling in the feeling.

“You’re my good boy, Carm,” you praise him, chest full of affection at the sight of him, and he hums back, just as affectionate.

#carmy berzatto #carmen berzatto #the bear #carmy berzatto x reader #carmen berzatto x reader #jeremy allen white #Carmen berzatto smut #carmy berzatto smut #carmy berzatto x you #Carmen berzatto x you #my asks #NOT A BLURB. I got too excited. although I guess I’ll dual tag it #my blurbs #carmy smut #my smut #sub carmy #yeah that deserves a tag #uhhhh anyway I did Not Mean to get this carried away I swear #but ummmm enjoy! <3

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shevr · 1 year

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#yeah so initially the starting goal for my previous post was to draw a character wearing this shirt #then i got carried away and it didn't work anymore so had to try again here #i did get distracted a bit again #( it is a real shirt and it is referring to a real dick you can find both on diskettepress dot com )#these robots parts do rly make no sense i'm no engineer #will try to understand those better later tho #shevr #my lines

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emosyzoth · 8 months

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tumblr user magowolor posts magolor art (CHEERING AND CLAPPIN) yup yuup mhm thats right

#once he claws his way ouy of hell after definantly learning his lesson(not true) He and i will have a summer wedding #lol idk. maybe he did learn smthn but not necessarily the lesson he should have #like to him it was probably just ok MAYBE he shouldnt try n bite off more than he can chew n get carried away #and then he finds some other way to garner attention and make his impression on othars #esp w kirby hes reeely trying to overcompensate for his past misdeeds like hehe yah im suuuuuperr nice now trust ^-^#but maybe just MAYBE theres a slight shift were hes like ok well what if i didnt want to be good just to be convincing #only Bc his past motivation and actions were all built off one lie after another. he cant even tell if these thoughts are genuine #sooo maybe his curiosity gets th better of him and he figures the only way to find out and also maybe possibly b able to form actual bonds #this time around is by commiting to actually intentionally being good and stuff #like hes not suddenly gonna try an be a complete goody two shoes and be perfect bc hes still a mischevious guy yknow but uhm. yeah. yknow #^^^oh BROTHER we got a real yapper over here -_-#kirby #magolor #krtdldx #myart

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kyuhu · 10 months

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lietbel + poet and the muse by poets of the fall : ) cuz i like pain

this one was easy, it doesn't even need explanation the song explains it all hahah! Thanks for the request, they were so cool to draw to this and wahh I can't believe this is the first time I drew LietBel???? Like?? It's insane I never did before, I love these two.

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#hws lithuania #hws belarus #lietbel #aph lithuania #aph belarus #long post #I drew Polietbel but never these two alone?? Or I just completely forgot #I know I said quick sketch and to my defense it is somewhat sketchy but I did get carried away...yeah #someone asked if they're making out in the reflection and no they are not #sdfaghdha Nat is d.ead and Liet mourns that's it

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novantinuum · 20 days

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nhfjsdfjnh- rewatching movie clips- and i'm not gonna lie-

steven, i LOVE you, but

"as much as i've looooved dismantling the empire and saving all your planets" is the absolute most FULL of it possible way you could've ever stated this concept

it's probably for the best he stepped the fuck away and didn't "take" the throne as white and the others wanted him to, i really don't think he needed the ego boost

#not tagging this bc i know there's people out there who will twist my words lol #but i find it Fascinating how full of himself steven can be sometimes #like Yeah no he Did In Fact save gemkind from themselves #but Damn m'guy you really gotta go and Say it like that? dangle it in front of everyone? lknbfhjddg #be humble- jeebus lol #jen rambles #anyways i am once again stating it- i love steven but steven is Flawed just as all of these characters are flawed #and his greatest vices are definitely feeling like he has to always be in control #and getting carried away with himself- both in his theatrics and in the way he interacts with others #and here he is TBH getting carried away with a small dose of hubris #juicy i lov me a protag with a dose of hubris

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enabi-seira · 6 months

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I did it, I've watched season 2 ;-;

Some things still have me feeling uneasy, but I liked it. I still need to process everything though. Specially..., there are three things that I don't get:

If the branches die without the time loom, what was there before HWR build it? Agamotto?

Loki learned how to control time like he learned how to enchant people's minds? If so, he truly was more powerful than what he believed.

Does Sylvie's tempad (previously HWR's tempad) still work? Can she reach the citadel at the end of time? Can she go where Loki is now?

#loki series #loki season 2 #this time i was prepared so the end didn't hurt as much as it did the end of season 1. but the more i think about the last 2 episodes...#i'm begging marvel to give loki a true break. not a i will rest when i die kind of break. a true happy ending for once!#oh yeah. he is one of the most powerful and important characters atm! AND WHAT'S THAT FOR! gamora. natasha. tony...#how many more “heroic” sacrifices do we need? that's the essense of a hero? the sacrificies they provide?#i'm getting carried away... i don't think i love tragedies that much...#i gotta say that i will have plot rabbits to follow for a long while though. will write some ideas down before they banish

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schnaf · 19 days

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well done 🥰💥

#xdinary heroes #jooyeon #jungsu #gaon #jun han #gunil #ode #lee jooyeon #kim jungsu #kwak jiseok #han hyeongjun #goo gunil #oh seungmin #just 6 bros telling each other they did well 🥰#oh boi i planned to start preparing birthday countdowns #i'm not in a hurry and stuff but 5 bdays almost at once? i can't prepare them day by day #so i was like.... i can only post gaon and ot6 gifs for now and i will save the rest for later #and my brain was like 'i will only make ot6 and gaon gifs for now'#wELL #i already took some notes tho! but well for the gaon countdown i took notes too and then i didn't use them so.....#(i want to do more compilations this time - like clips from different videos)#(last time i got a bit carried away and was like 'i'm looking for compilation moments..... ah look this scene is very gifable')#(also... for example i had planned a 'gifs you can hear' gifset with gaon's laugh. but then i found perfect moments......)#(and suddenly they were a gifset on their own)#so yeah we'll see what i'll come up with for the other countdowns!#(also oh boi i planned to post concert pics last time and i didn't get to it......)

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bigboysteveharrington · 2 years

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I got distracted working on part of a chapter later than the one I still need to finish and post and

Mike: Everyone’s afraid of Hopper, right?

Will, whose previous father figure was Lonnie and whose first memory of Hopper is him carrying him out of the Upside Down: 🤨

#I can't put Will or El or Jonathan's thoughts on this scene until I get there in the so far unposted fic in the same universe as The Things #in Life That I Can't Find but I *can* make a post making it clear that Will is internally like bitch wtf??? because he hasn't witnessed #Hopper intentionally being ominous to Mike and to Will Hopper was already becoming a dad figure before Hopper and Joyce even got together #Because he didn't even know Hopper when Hopper didn't give up on helping Joyce finding him even after his fake dead body washed up #And Hopper went into the Upside Down back when no one had ever come back out alive to get him and carried him out #And Hopper came along to the check ups Will had to have at Hawkins Lab and Hopper was already there for him more and doing more as a father #figure than Lonnie ever did even before they suddenly became a 5 person Hopper-Byers family unit so Will is one of the only ones that #didn't start off petrified of Hopper before they realized that he was on their side and he's seen the way that El is the boss out of Hopper #and El a lot of the time and he's seen the way that Hopper goes along with whatever Joyce wants 99.9% of the time even if they do bicker in #a more lighthearted way that never has Will hiding in Jonathan's room with loud music on to get away from it so he's like yeah Hopper's #big but he's just Hopper??? He's tough in a good at protecting us way but he gives in all the time to what people he cares about want and #he goes out of the way to do things for people regularly???#Plus Joyce never looks scared of him and she's happier when he's around and Jonathan and Joyce and El all trust him so Will fully trusts #him and likes having him around too #Oops I didn't mean to go on such a long ramble in the tags but I have a lot of thoughts on that family dynamic #Hence the turning the fic into a series so that I can have a fic that focuses on their dynamics #Mine

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thisismycorneroftheinternet · 2 months

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I realize that to others, having recurrent suicidal thoughts and other violent intrusive thoughts, having several coping mechanisms that are in some way or another self-harm and dangerous habits, having difficult to control memory flashbacks out of the blue that ruin your entire mood and bring you down, and having a generally almost constant level of demotivation and negativeness, derealization and depersonalization, and sheer panicked internal anxiety and paranoia that can go overboard at any second, are not normal. But like, that's been most of my life since I was 13ish, very few times I have not felt this way. I've just learned to carry on and not talk too much about it, because it scandalizes people to hear that sort of stuff, and that means they turn against you and abandon you, because they think I am either too much to handle or am acting out too much.

#personal #mental health #tw: suicide talk #tw: self-harm talk #tbh I have not been able to even bring it up completely to the therapists and psychologists because also I don't want to end up in the #mental hospital and cause a whole ass upheaval in my life and bring unnecessary attention and criticism from family and others #I don't want to be deemed ''crazy'' and thus have my personal freedom and self-determination taken away mainly by my parents #they both will demean and attack me for being this way despite the fact it is very much their fault and will try to take over control of my #life and never let me ever leave them like I want to #if it gets to that point I am fucking killing myself because fuck that #so ofc I just try to carry on life and try to act normal at least on the outside so people don't fuck me over #I did mention the ressurgence of my suicidal thoughts to the psychologists on the health clinic (with a lot of ''but I'd never act on it'')#ressurances so they don't fuck me over and that was the first time I've talked about it honestly but like.... IDEK what to even say to them #I guess I'll just wait until the turn of the month so I will go back to therapy (I finally gathered up some money for that) and talk about #it to my therapist but yeah that'll be fun

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bunnyfella · 8 months

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Thoughts on the movie pacific rim

I FUCKING LOVE THE MOVIE PACIFIC RIM SO FUCKING MUCH I haven't seen the sequel bc most everyone seems to think it's shit (because it IS) but by god dude oh my god I fucking love pacific rim. I love the . The. Ok listen if I got to do the drift compatability thing and drift with someone literally I think all of my problems would be solved. Someone getting to know me and see me with all of the best and worst and neutral parts and I get to see them too and so we know each other so fucking well I. It would fix me. At least some things.

I was about to leave it open for you to ask about specific things but no actually I wanna talk about fucking Pentecost and how in movie two john boyega (WHOM I LOVE SO VERY MUCH) plays his SON?????? YOURE TELLING ME PENTECOST THE MAN WHO IS FOCUSED ON HIS JOB AND MEKO O N L Y HAD A FUCKING SON???????? UR KIDDING ME. I mean on the one hand I get like needing a protagonist altho idk if John's character is even the protagonist and I guess I dont know if John's character was like. A planned child. But like. God. Pentecost would never have a child. Thats absurd. Meko is his daughter by mutual choice and the rest of it ever is . Fucking. Absurd choices. Idk. It really pissed me off. Thinking about it. But of course the whole sequel is shit so it doesn't even. Its not even canon yanno. Fuck that thing.

#i didnt even get carried away im proud of myseld #but if u did have any specific stuff to ask about. hiiiiiiiiii #yes im in love with charlie day yes the scientists are in love next question #charlie hunnam my fucking. everythign.#CHARLIE HUNNAM CHARACTER AND MEKO NOT ROMANTICALLY INTERESTED IN EACH OTHER THEYRE BEST FRIENDS. THEY'RE BEST FRIENDS.#created soulmates >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>#hi yeah . um. :) pacific rim #anywho #<3

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phantom-does-a-thing · 1 year

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Look at my horrors I worked so hard for them. Trigger warnings for blood, gore, body horror, panic attacks and vomiting

#I WILL be talking about this fic later #I am very normal about it and did not get carried away at all #anyway yeah #jrwi #jrwi fanfiction #writing #my writing #phantom does a thing #rambling #phever dreams with phantom

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romaritimeharbor · 1 month

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guys i have no idea when this happened but i have like, multiple new genshin ocs bouncing around in my head

#✧— aphe's musings.#hestia is the name i've chosen for one!#she was la signora's personal assistant before she died and has since deserted the fatui. idk if i talked about her yet or not #the others are unnamed #i've got an expelled vahumana scholar. truth is they are just a silly little guy (gender neutral) who cannot be constrained +#+ they were never going to hurt anyone!!!! they just got a little carried away bro they SWEAR on it!!!!! it was an accident they +#+ really didn't mean to commit like. all of the sins :( they didn't mean it :( (they did mean it. btw. yeah)#(^ they *genuinely* are just a little silly and they happen to have a very strong moral compass. they were *never* going to hurt anyone.)#i have like 5 million fatui ocs HAHA #anyways :) another fatui oc upon ye:#alongside the one who got their limbs torn off and then replaced by dottore there's another fatui agent oc +#+ who joined the fatui following an altercation between pantalone and their former rich guy boss who was in +#+ massive debt that he had not repaid. and they did not know anything about it? and they were basically like +#+ “get fucked loser” they did NOT like him. uhh something something that one quote from yelan's story quest +#+ “give a dog a bone and it will guard your home for the rest of its life” pantalone & oc-core #you guys can pronoun assign all these ocs (except hestia) because idk what pronouns to give them LMFAO #anyways how do you guys make those cute genshin oc posts that make it feel like a canon +#+ character profile..... please teach me 😔#also expelled akademiya student ended up falling into the abyss prior to their expulsion; it was learning of the sins the gods committed +#+ that made them intentionally do things that the akademiya forbode. they and hestia are friends also btw!#they both are working towards the same goal so they help one another out sometimes #they probably kiss idk. maybe queerplatonically i think.

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red-dyed-sarumane · 5 months

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my friend asked me to put together all the ways oumen & apoptosis are connected as songs today & i love those two so naturally ive been on this since i woke up & after really going thru the lyrics Yet Again i think i FINALLY have my answer about tenshi's song right.

so basically we know the nami no ne no motif from aru sekai shoushitsu being present in a song means whoever in the song is still a "person"/still has their free will & gets to continue into the next loop. standard info. in all the other songs this is mixed into the instrumental, the only times its sung are in shoushitsu of course & in oumen mokushiroku. didnt think much of it when the song first came out bc like yeah thats just whats in series songs. but more & more across various songs, shoushitsu, apoptosis, kanon, oumen itself it talks about sacrifice & implies that sacrifice was a permanent death. oumen as a whole is her not wanting to accept that sacrifice role, she doesn't have a choice in it, but she doesnt want it either, (& apoptosis being it was originally that girl who was supposed to be the sacrifice but she pushed it off on someone else, therefore is the reason tenshi's song goes the way it does in the first place)

so then why does she have the motif if everything else including her herself say that she dies permanently.

i propose to u my newest theory.

the whole song is her wishing she had more time, not wanting to do it, she wants to live. so. since she's specifically singing it. im willing to bet its a last wish of hers. that somehow, someway, she still has enough free will to counteract the act of sacrifice, if she wishes hard enough, if she holds enough of her own desires, then maybe against everything, she'll get to live on into the next loop. basically, not a sign that she Does live, rather, just that she desperately WANTS to

#aru sekai series #no joke ive been tearin up over her all day why is her song so painful #SHE DIDNT DO ANYTHING WRONG. WHY. WHY DID IT HAPPEN LIKE THIS. WHY #<- literally the end of apoptosis #apoptosis just looooves to cause problems until the one person she refuses to admit she cares about get caught in it #apoptosis is her own beast & u put the two of these together & im just in emotional overload.#apoptosis lying & saying shes in it for the other when shes just thinking of herself #until the other gets taken away from her without a chance to even say anything about it #& she just cant handle that #& u have tenshi who wants nothing more than to make it out alive with her taking her place & dying & in the end it changes nothing #im so fucking upset she wanted to LIVE she tried to lie to herself & say at least it might absolve everyones sins of carrying out this #project & it doesnt do a damn thing #she was SCARED she DIDNT want this she just desperately wants to live & see the other again & THEY KILLED HER......#honestly apoptosis is so in the right to have a breakdown over it. its like half her fault but like. a breakdown is #the only correct response i think #kanon feels guilty but she doesnt seem to outwardly show that very much #so like. yeah i would also lose my mind if someone i was close to got killed for no reason & everyone just acted like it was nothing #i feel like im finally starting to come to terms with like labo's & yamete's deaths but god tenshis is just so........... awful.

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Thinking some fandom thoughts and then about ORV's portrayal of an author-character-reader relationship with the story and realising how....lacking at times the whole death of the author perspective on media can be.

(Turned out to be long and rambly so I put it under a cut. If you like death of the author, probably not for your worldview? Also, beware major ORV spoilers if you care about that)

Like, perhaps I'm misinterpreting something here, but in ORV, we had these three characters plus an entire system that gave us a look into the relationship between author/reader/character. And focusing on the Han Sooyoung, Kim Dokja, and Yoo Joonghyuk dynamic, I realise that none of them really died. Pushing asides Joonghyuk and Dokja for the moment (as I am talking about death of the author), we have Han Sooyoung whose consciousness faded after finishing Ways of Survival.

However, I don't know if we can really call that death of the author, really. Because Sooyoung's whole purpose in writing ORV, her authorial intention, was to save Kim Dokja's life...which she DID. And even after the story left her hands, her intentions were imprinted into the story itself. Yes, Dokja realised that the system was lenient to him because of (spoiler alert) his status as the OD. But at the same time, I think that Han Sooyoung's authorial intent to keep Dokja alive with WoS can also be taken as a factor in the system's leniency towards our reader.

And just jumping from that back to my original point, while death of the author IS fun and can be awesome for reinterpreting stories that the author may have intended as problematic (to our modern standards, at least), to separate the actual story itself from its creator seems just....a tad disrespectful to the author.

Or maybe disrespectful isn't the right word. Like, say, even if said author is objectively the worst of humans, there remains the fact that the story in essence has part of them embedded into it. It doesn't make sense, at least to me, to only give "morally okay" writers the allowance of people who put a part of themselves in their works. Any writer, even those who are writing for money imo, can't help but put part of their own selves into their story...and to separate the story from the author just because we hate the author or hate their beliefs seems a bit counter-productive. You can't just say, after all, that this author's vulnerability in their writing is okay because it's Correct but this other guy's vulnerability should be ignored because it's chalk full of Problematic Content.

But again, that's not to justify authors you dislike or the deeply wrong messages implied in their works. Especially those that could easily be shooed away by employing death of the author. But I think I'd consider fanfic or analyses that ignore authorial intent and their message to be something...new entirely? (Best way I can say it is something something death of an author employed to help the reader create their own narrative inspired by someone else's story rather than it being used to ignore author intent and claim our interpretation is what canon actually meant).

I think there's a saying in music as well as writing that you could play the same exact score or write the same story, it's just that things will come out different depending on the player or writer. (That's not a perfect comparison because the player/musician who WROTE the score could be considered a reader/author relationship...the point is more that the same thing will look different in the hands of different people. And that just as the reader will interpret something in their own way when reading/re-reading (another ORV reference), the author also has placed in their own interpretation and intent in that own work...which should at worst be respected because they DID make that content (and then we proceed to brutally revise it to make something we like better xD) or at best be taken as "word of god" for lack of a better term)

Not sure if any of this makes sense, and I definitely don't have any factual evidence to back up this opinion, but it was just something I was thinking of.

TL:dR? Death of the author is FUN and actually pretty cool but I think the things coming out of it are new(ish) things/works entirely, and og author's beliefs/intentions are important to consider for that text they wrote in of itself.

#honestly this thought came from scrolling through the narnia tag and feeling slight despair over movies vs book #and also a bit of a surprise at how MANY people still believe in the problem of susan....like i thought we were past that?#and how many people dont seem to get or like that cs lewis' christianity deeply inspired it #or how much historical and cultural context we might need to understand some of the choices #like the pevensies whole isekai regressions #another example i can think of is lotr....and another is funny enough the bible #but those arent things i know well enough #but yeah....orv and narnia conspiring together for this nonsense of mine #again disclaimer this really isnt meant to attack anyone or say im right...its just another opinion to be lost in the sea of internet #but yeah....i did kinda get carried away xD...my poor rambles never get any good transitions #fandom spamdom #note's nonsense #things about writing #orv spoilers #another disclaimer i wrote this after having been awake for like....almost 19 hours coherence be gone #but yeeting it into the void nevertheless #i also think there was a post circulating once that talked about death of the author not being actually used in academic circles #excuse me rambling in the tags

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