#The Flux

[donutdrawsthings]

I just finished the Flux storyline and it makes me so upset they introduced this cool idea to us and then IMMEDIATELY took it away again the next episode!! The Doctor turning into a weeping angel would have been such a cool plot point!!

#LIKE ARE YOU KIDDING MEEEE #you could have so much fun with that #like how long is the doctor willing to go hungry to save humanity #how much would it hurt her if Yaz couldn't stand her starving herself and offering up someone else OR EVEN HERSELF #The SHAME the GUILT #not even the TARDIS wanting anything to do with her #jodie whittaker #13th doctor #doctor who #doctor who fanart #dw art #dw fanart #the flux #the timeless child #weeping angels #weeping angel #the weeping doctor #weepingangel!doctor #man idk how fandom people tag stuff #weeping angel doctor #fanart #the doctor #doctor who flux #weeping angel 13 #donutdrawsthings #bad wolf #angel #digital art #artists on tumblr #doctor who series 13

[spirantization]

"Wild Blue Yonder" dealt with some of the emotional fallout of the Flux, so I want to rewind a bit and look at what that means for the Doctor.

I know that the Timeless Child and the Flux are contentious topics. I'm not here to argue either way. But now those storylines have decisively not been retconned, and with both of these fresh in my memory, I feel the need to offer some context for anyone who may not have seen it, and to recontextualize it for myself and anyone who has.

NotDonna: You don't know where you're from. The Doctor: How do you know that? How does anyone know? How does Donna know?

In "The Timeless Children", we find out that the Doctor was discovered as a child alone under a wormhole, and adopted by a woman named Tecteun. There was an accident where the Doctor fell from a cliff and regenerated, and subsequently Tecteun performed "experiments" on them to try to understand regeneration. The show minces words about this but she killed a child a whole bunch of times is what happened. Her experiments created the Time Lords and allow them to engineer their regeneration properties. The Doctor has no memory of any of this, and only finds out via the Master and information stored in the Time Lord Matrix.

The Doctor, predictably, doesn't tell anyone about this revelation. She makes a speech to the Master about how this makes her more, we get a single shot of her looking a bit tired in the TARDIS, then she immediately gets thrown in prison.

Ultimately, the Doctor doesn't know where they're from or who their parents are. And the very fact that they're not from Gallifrey is information that no one in the universe should have. Everyone who knew is now dead.

NotDonna: I saw it in your head. The Flux. The Doctor: It destroyed half the universe because of me. We stand here now, on the edge of creation, a creation which I devastated, so yes I keep running, of course I do! How am I supposed to look back on that? NotDonna: It wasn't your fault! The Doctor: I know!

A fun fact about the Flux is that the Doctor did not cause it. So why does he blame himself? Because the person who caused the Flux was Tecteun.

The reason why Tecteun wanted to destroy the universe is because the Doctor interfered with things too much. Too much morality. Too inspirational to people. She calls them a virus. So her solution to the problem of the Doctor is to destroy the universe, with the Doctor inside, and take her ship to a different universe to start fresh. She also was the one to steal all the Doctor's memories of previous lives in the first place. She's dismissive and patronizing and clearly does not care about the Doctor on an emotional level at all. Tecteun is a piece of work, and the implications of her actions and how they've shaped the Doctor have the potential to go deep.

Thirteen doesn't get too much of a chance to react to any of this, because there is plot going on. And shortly after they reunite, Tecteun gets killed by a different villain. So there was no emotional closure in the moment, and there's now no possibility for the Doctor to make sense of her actions. The Doctor does not tell any of her friends about any of these events. She keeps promising to tell Yaz but does not.

"Wild Blue Yonder" is the first time we, as the audience, hear the Doctor discuss the Flux. And their perception of events is skewed at best. The Flux wasn't caused because the Doctor made a mistake and a lot of people were killed, which is what you can argue for many other situations. The Flux and the devastation of the universe was caused by their mother, who promptly turned around and told them it was their fault for being such an interfering nuisance. We know that the Doctor is often an unreliable narrator, but this is beyond that. These are the words of an abused child who has internalized the narrative that the abuse was their fault.

So the Doctor being able to talk about this with Donna, who has seen what happened, who knows him, and tells him that it's not his fault — it means so much to him. He wants it to be her so badly. And then NotDonna laughs in his face. You can see the devastation. He thinks for one moment that he can finally talk about this with his best friend, and it's snatched away from him. He gives himself a moment to break down in the corridor, and then you can see the walls rebuilding as he suppresses it all again.

At the very end of the episode, back in the TARDIS, he's trying very very hard to be nonchalant. I'm curious. The NotDonna could remember all these things that happened to me while we were apart. Can you? Just wondering. Things happened, but I'll be fine. In a million years. It's not a joke.

He wants so badly to be able to talk about this. You can see it in all the lines of his body language. He's keeping himself together but is prepared to fall apart in an instant. He doesn't want to actually tell anyone, but if Donna just magically knew already, and could tell him it wasn't his fault — well, that would make the world of difference. But she doesn't know, and he can't bring himself to tell her. And so the cycle continues.

#doctor who #dw spoilers #wild blue yonder #the flux

[causalityparadoxes]

Re the Doctor talking about destroying half the universe. Was the Flux never undone? Did I misremember it as being undone? Like it just happened. Half the universe poof, gone forever.

SPEAKING of destroying half the universe. Was the destruction of half the universe in the 4th Doctor episode, Logopolis, ever undone either? Cause if Nyssa's home planet stayed destroyed, then I dont think it was.

Sooo.... if the Doctor destroyed half the universe...

And then later destroyed half again...

Has the Doctor destroyed 3 quarters of the total universe? Because damnnnn, picture of their face next to genocide in the dictionary indeed.

#my sibling pointed this out and im fucking CACKLING #doctor who #dw spoiler #60th anniversary #wild blue yonder #logopolis #the doctor #the flux

[sundry-whovengerslocked]

okay but now that we know Fourteen lives a domestic fantasy with Donna (and co) living his best life and starting to heal from all his ptsd...

it starts with talking about the toymaker.

"Doctor. you never answered my question. all those things the Toymaker said, were they true?"

the Doctor, after much hesitation, breaking down, finally, finally.

talking about Amy and all the adventures they shared. how she was another sassy redhead who kept him in line when he needed it. how she died of old age with her husband but was so horribly ripped from him.

talking about River Song, the woman Donna met only once, the woman who died for the Doctor. talking about how he discovered their lives together and thus lived it. about how they were married and about how many goodbyes they had to face.

talking about Clara, the impossible girl, who dragged him out of his sulking, who kept him going, who was like him. talking about the hybrid and the billions of years he spent in the confession dial just to bring her back to life. how he had to forget her or else he would have never stopped.

talking about Bill, the girl who questioned everything, things no one ever thought to ask. who had the best smile and a crush and was so so brave, up until the end. who lived on in a different way.

talking about Yaz, the girl he fell in love with while he was a woman, the girl who saw the Doctor in ways she didn't want to be seen. the girl she pushed away because it hurt too much.

finally talking about the Flux. about how half the universe died. how he never ever really belonged. about how he doesn't know where he's from, not really. about how the not-things taunted him with his memories.

and Donna listens. she listens, and asks, and weeps. she holds him as he cries.

"It's not your fault," she tells him. "you did the best you could.

"i know," he cries, echoing what he said at the edge of the universe, when he thought it was her. "I know, but it hurts."

and they let it hurt. they let it hurt, raw, broken, until the sun sets and the air cools and Shaun knocks on the door of the tardis to tell them Sylvia made tuna madras again.

the next day Donna asks about Adric.

and he tells her.

he tells her about Adric, Logopolis, the time key, the Master. he tells her all the things that he's been running from.

and they weep. and they breathe. and together, the Doctor heals.

#doctor who #donna noble #the giggle #fourteenth doctor #amy pond #clara oswald #bill potts #yasmin khan #the flux #shaun temple #sylvia noble #the doctor #the toymaker #the master #I think when I started this I had something specific in mind but #it... got away from me yeah #angst #the doctor's ptsd #healing #classic who #references #the doctordonna #I bet he'd tell her about seeing Jack again #original post

[oldbookshop]

thirteen + yaz + saying goodbye

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[intuitive-revelations]

FLUXES [Celestis: Engineered Participants / Technologies] Example: "DOCTOR, The"

[Image description, courtesy of @quailfence: a series of pictures of text, alternated with screencaps and gifs from Doctor Who.

1: Text: Fluxes: [Celestis: Engineered Participants/Technology] Individuals transposed backwards in time but not too far in space, using a very high chaotic limiter setting and tied to their home period by a thread of biodata

2: The Eleventh Doctor stands in the future corpse of his TARDIS, looking and a pulsing stream of light that has replaced the console. He says, "That is the scar tissue of my journey through the universe. My path through time and space."

3: Text: He raised a finger. 'Look. There.

Now she could just make out the thread in the moonlight. It was just a faint reflection, maybe a foot or two long, about a metre off the ground. A taut strand of spiderweb hanging in the air, not attached to anything.

'What is it?' Fitz asked.

'It's only partially rotated into three dimensions,' he said. He pushed his finger right through the glimmering line, without affecting it. 'That's why it looks one- or two-dimensional. The rest is still perpendicular to what we can see - woven into higher space, or the time vortex…'

'Yes,' said Fitz, 'but what is it?' 'It's what your friend mistook for a ley line.' The Doctor was scuttling around the silver thread, peering at it from every angle, getting more and more agitated. 'It's part of the fabric of space-time itself. What DNA is to your genetic code, this stuff is to biodata. And it's all just exposed here now. Personality, history, memory, perception, all vulnerable…'

'I'm going to have to ask you again, aren't I?' said Fitz.

The Doctor said, 'It's me.'

4: The Fourteenth and Fifteenth doctors in the TARDIS. 14: "But you're fine?" 15: "I'm fine, because you fixed yourself. We're Time Lords, we're doing rehab out of order."

5: Text: The subject is turned loose in his or her own history, and the limiter setting allows tiny actions taken by the future version to have considerable effects on the past version. The biodata link then transfers these changes to the future version, which alters it, and thus alters the changes made to the past version. Therefore, the individual's history is kept constantly in flux.

6: The Fugitive Doctor says, "Let me take it from the top: Hello, I'm the Doctor."

7: Text: Let me finish. Think back to that time when you went to see your previous selves.

8: Ten, Eleven, and War talk to each other. Ten: "You're not actually suggesting that we change our own personal history?" Eleven: "We change history all the time. I'm suggesting far worse."

9: Text: 'Maybe there's no one home on Gallifrey,' said the boy softly. There was just the one of him.

The Doctor looked at him, cupping the small white cube in his hands. The boy said, Maybe they all left. Or maybe the whole planet's being destroyed, and undestroyed, and destroyed, and you just caught them at the wrong moment.

10: The TARDIS by the ruins of Gallifrey

11: Text: 'It's impossible,' said the Doctor. 'It's impossible for my people. Our past is unreachable. What's written can't be unwritten.'

'Who said your history can't change?'

Another boy answered, 'Someone from his history.'

And another: 'Maybe it's the second-biggest lie in Time Lord history.'

12: Dhawan!Master tells Thirteen, "You are the Timeless Child."

13: Thitreen stares at a ruined house. Swarm whispers in her ear and tells her, "All the memories you've lost, all the people you've been. It's all in there, contained within that house."

14: Text: And it was like the Doctor's home. As if his ship understood the loss of the House and had compensated to fill the emptiness. Shadowy corridors, alcoves and stairways, a secret at every turn. Like being in the Doctor's head. Like his life, for that matter, the details of which were strewn like flotsam across the floor.

15: Text: 'Sweet,' said the little boy. 'That's my favourite of your origin stories, too.'

The Doctor opened his eyes. He had been laughing, he realised, he felt that lightness in himself. The boys had all moved away, behind him, leaving him facing the empty dark of the warehouse.

'What do you mean?' he asked. His voice sounded very small.

'Is this the version where they banned all mention of his name, and yours, for consorting with aliens? Or the one where he got every record of himself deleted from the files?'

'Feel free to believe either of them,' snapped the Doctor, 'or both of them, or neither of them. If you're curious about my past, I want there to be as many wrong answers as possible.'

16: The Eighth Doctor tells someone, "I'm half human. On my mother's side."

17: Text: 'Well he's a hybrid, you know that. A Gallifreyan not born of Gallifreyan, the one who unites the two races and brings good old human niceness into their alien society. Aliens need that, y'know.'

'A human hybrid? She saw the contempt in his curling lip. 'Pseudoscientific nonsense. There's no evidence,' he repeated.

'He's allowed to be different. He's got a prophecy and everything.'

18: Lady Me says, "By your own reasoning, why couldn't the Hybrid be half Time Lord, half human?"

19: Text: Someone giggled. 'Let's play pin the tale on the donkey.'

'Maybe you didn't use to have a father.'

'Maybe you're living in the middle of a time war. Maybe there's an Enemy out there -'

The Doctor shouted, 'I'm not listening!'

'- who's rewriting you when you're not looking!'

'Maybe you weren't always half human.'

'But now you've become always half human.' 'Maybe you weren't always a Time Lord.'

But now you've always been a Time Lord.'

'Maybe you originally came from some planet in the forty-ninth century. Fleeing from the Enemy who'd overrun your home -'

'I said I'm not listening! Laa laa laa laa laa -'

'- and you've just been written and rewritten and overwritten, ever since.'

'Pin the tale!'

'How d'you know it's not true?'

'How could you know it's not true?'

The voices crowded in. 'How would you know, huh?'

'How would you know?'

'How would 'How would you 'How 'How would you know? you know? you know? know?'

'Why would I care?' shouted the Doctor.

The boy fell silent.

20: Lady Me asks, "Am I right? Is it true?" Twelve replies, "Does it matter?"

21: Text: However, the one group from the Homeworld which has excelled at flux-engineering is the Celestis.

22: Two asks the Time Lords, "Now then… what about me?"

23: Tecteun tells Thirteen, "Which is ehy we engineered the Fluyx: Shut the universe down and you within it."

24: Text: Even Mictlan itself can be considered a kind of enormous flux, an endlessly-shifting realm so cortosive to the rest of history that its heartland has to be kept on the outer skin of the universe

24: The Fourteenth Doctor tells Donna, "I invoked a supersition, at the edge of the universe, where the walls are thin and everything is possible."

25: The space station from Wild Blue Yonder

26: Text: There are suggestions of a stable middle-ground between the two fates, in which the physical matter of the flux is lost but the meaning of the subject/ victim is retained, a series of memetic connections with no flesh to support it. Yet this entity exists only on a purely theoretical level, relying on the perceptions of others to survive at all.

27: The Twelfth Doctor walks up to the TARDIS console. He says, "Can't wait to hear what I say." Glancing at the viewer, he adds, "I'm noting without an audience."

28: Text: You know what Sam represents. If a tree falls in a forest and no one's there to hear it, does it make a sound? Stop me if I'm getting too abstract here, but if a Time Lord saves the world and nobody witnesses him doing it, does history care? She's your witness. The thing you need to make you whole.

29: The First Doctor looks at the viewer and says, "Incidentally, a Happy Christmas to all of you at home!" End description.]

[Plain text: Fluxes [Celestis: Engineered Participants / Technologies] Example: "Doctor, The". End plain text.]

@dw-described

#Doctor Who #DW Meta #DW Theory #First Doctor #Second Doctor #Eighth Doctor #Tenth Doctor #Eleventh Doctor #Twelfth Doctor #Thirteenth Doctor #Fourteenth Doctor #Fifteenth Doctor #Martin!Doctor #Tecteun #The Division #The Flux #Faction Paradox #Doctor Who EU #The Book of the War #Unnatural History #just some random thoughts #linking together some of the parallels and headcanons over the years into a chain #actually was spurred by me thinking about the 'destruction of the universe' line in Class and connecting it to the Flux #but had to cut it #as well as a lot more #due to the 30 image limit #so consider also the Solitract; the Great Old Ones from the previous universe; the Doctor as a 'virus'; “once upon several times” etc. #DW Spoilers #Doctor Who Spoilers #for Tennant and Gatwa together

[clairedelune-13]

It really speaks to David’s talent and dedication when he shows so much pain for other Doctor’s companion’s fates as if he were there. Like, look! He’s barely holding back the urge to cry! 😭

Give this man 1000 awards! 🏆🏆🏆

And even more hugs!

#david tennant #fourteenth doctor #masterclass acting #the giggle #amy pond #clara oswald #bill potts #the flux #doctor who

[s-h-a-s-e]

the colours on thirteen's TARDIS are so pretty!!! the blue light!! the yellow windows!! the inverted signs!! aaahh i love her so much!!!!! (the TARDIS and thirteen both) ...although they did take away my precious st john ambulance emblem >:|

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[bibliocratic]

Loose Threads or: What’s Fifteen Going to Find Out in 2024 (based on The Giggle and The Star Beast)

The Doctor’s identity

The specials take the particular choice of mentioning the Flux (and by extension the Timeless Child) multiple times (both its emotional ramifications and canon impact). The Toymaker may or may not have had something to do with it.

“I made a jigsaw out of your history. Do you like it?”

The fate of the Master

Since we last saw them (if the current Sacha incarnation), they got themselves bested by the Toymaker and imprisoned

“The Master was dying and begged for his life with one final game. And when he lost, I sealed him for all eternity inside my gold tooth.”

Whoever picked up the dropped tooth (for my money, Kate Lethbridge-Stewart due to the colour of the nail varnish) and what they'll do with it.

The One Who Waits

Apparently the one force that the Toymaker “didn’t dare face”.

“I saw it, hiding, and I ran… Hmm. That’s someone else’s game.”

Outstanding questions

Who was the Meep was working with/for?: “A creature with two hearts is such a rare thing. Just wait till I tell the boss.”

Who are the Toymaker's Legions?

Who are The Vlinx?: Who are they? No idea. Everyone’s super chill with them and they are played as though an established element of canon and the UNIT set up. Ol’ Briggsie is back with voice-over so they’re likely to make a return.

Will we see UNIT again?: Considering that Kate Stewart's playing Catch 'Em All with the Doctor's old Companions (Donna, Mel, Martha), and the special takes time to introduce new Scientific Advisor Shirley Anne, yes. Graham's got contact with most of the surviving companions via a secret member's club, leaving the door open for classic companions like Tegan (and Nyssa, if The Tales from the TARDIS is to be believed that they got reunited) Ace, Yaz, Dan, Jo Grant to show up.

Potential follow-ons

While the 'invoking a superstition' at the edge of the universe is responsible for the Toymaker's reappearance, it wouldn't surprise me that more hasn't come through that entrance into our reality as a result.

#doctor who #dw spoilers #doctor who spoilers #the giggle #the star beast #the vlinx #the meep #the toymaker #the one who waits #the timeless child #the flux #doctor who specials

[wee-thassie]

“I’m sure I miss you…”

“I miss you too.”

✨

#thasmin #yasmin khan #bbc doctor who #thirteen x yaz #thirteenth doctor #yaz khan #yaz x thirteen #doctor who #dr who #dr who fanart #13th doctor #doctorwho #drwho #fanart #wlw #the flux

[cyber-corp]

Looking back, I think the ideas of the Timeless Child and the Flux were both decent ideas but with really dull execution. I think the problem was that Chris Chibnall came up with two really cool ideas he had, then didn't know what to do with them. The 13th Doctor gets told directly she caused the Flux and we never get to see her struggle with the consequences for the rest of her era.

But I do think RTD reinvigorated those concepts and (for the most part) wrote them better. We actually get to see the Doctor struggle with causing the Flux and being the Timeless Child through 14's short monologue ("We stand here now on the edge of creation, a creation which I devastated!") and 15's parallels with Ruby Sunday as a foundling ("I've got no family.")

I just wish they were given the development back when they were established.

#doctor who #the flux #timeless child #chris chibnall #rtd #13th doctor #14th doctor #15th doctor #gecko boy

[phyrexian-lesbian]

the toymaker had no fucking right to bring up amy clara bill and the flux do you fucking mind bestie.

#doctor who #fourteenth doctor #the toymaker #amy pond #clara oswald #bill potts #the flux

[causalityparadoxes]

Imma be real the way fake Donna and the Doctor discussed the Flux is everything i ever wanted regarding flux and more. I know it didnt fit 13s character but i WANTED this reflection on how fucked a situation it was. The way he was so VULNERABLE and then had that full breakdown!!

THAT IS ALL IVE EVER WANTEDDD

#dw spoilers #doctor who #wild blue yonder #the flux #60th anniversary #the doctor

[wheelybard]

Everybody saying the Flux was the Doctor's fault:

Doctor: IT WAS MY MOM, OK!

#doctor who #the flux #tecteun

[safyresky]

One thing I loved so so SO much about the special was the Meep induced cracks HEALING THEMSELVES. I actually almost cried when the fiery lil cracks closed up because how nice is that? how nice is it to see the whole day saved??? Remember when they did the Flux and it ate most if not all of the universe and they just left it? Remember that? Because I do! And it was such a nice refreshing change to see something so bad be put back! I missed having hope! That was fucking nice!!! It's giving

and my GOD did I miss that

#dani speaks #i've yet to see 13's specials so maybe i am off base and they DID fix the flux destruction!!! #who's to say! #needless to say it's so nice to see something disastrous get rectified #i. i missed that a lot 🥺🥺🥺 #dani watches dw #dw spoilers #dw specials #the star beast #the flux

[intuitive-revelations]

While I've got critiques of a few choices (eg. bigeneration, the Season One reset), one thing I've got to commend RTD for is that the story arc of things getting "more supernatural" / the universe shifting from sci-fi to fantasy is actually a pretty perfect way of continuing the shows overall myth arcs without actually requiring knowing all the backstory.

Not only does this follow on from the Time Lords currently being gone again (which itself was kind of built up from the previous Gallifrey arcs and the Master's character development), but also is more or less exactly what the Ravagers wanted to do in Flux. They wanted to undo the Anchoring of the Thread, recontexualised in terms of the Division's universal interferenc. While time and its laws have somewhat stabilised for now, we are indeed now seeing Rassilon's laws of rationality starting to collapse. I would strongly argue this started even before the 60th anniversary, between the time loop in Eve of the Daleks and the constellations literally rearranging themselves in the sky in Legend of the Sea Devils.

Even outside of the shows main arcs, New Who has already dipped its toes into the concept that there are older creatures which don't necessarily run on science in the same way as everything else, or that are from outside the universe / incompatible with it. Primary examples being the Carrionites, Racnoss, the Beast and Abaddon, Weeping Angels, Solitract, arguably even The Timeless Child. The Dark Times have also been prominantly featured in stuff like the Time Lord Victorious series and Titan Comics.

We've also being seeing entities like Eternals gradually returning (Zellin, Rakaya, maybe Time) who were originally established as leaving the universe in the wake of the Time War in RTD's Series 1 backstory in the DW Annuals. We've even seen quite significant emphasis put on the Sisterhood of Karn and their connection to Gallifrey, something primarily developed in the EU with the Pythia lore, which also links into the likes of the Visionary in The End of Time.

All this being said, none of this backstory is (for now) important for new viewers to know. All they need to know is that Fourteen fucked up in Wild Blue Yonder, and now things which were once outside the universe, like the Toymaker, are starting to leak into it. They don't need to know, for example, that the TARDIS may only have been able to access edge of universe thanks to the scale of the Flux's destruction.

Ultimately this feels a lot like his approach with the Time War. While it was a logical conclusion to the classic series (hence why we get so many time wars / destructions of Gallifrey in the EU), with Genesis, Revelation and Remembrance of the Daleks all particularly serving as build up for a Dalek attack on Gallifrey, and indeed were all included in said prior-mentioned DW Annual articles along with the tension de-escalating 'Act of Master Restitution', none of that was important for new viewers in 2005 to know.

This being said, I do suspect some past context will return in the future, just as it did over New Who. For example, we're bound to be reintroduced to the idea that the Time Lords established rationality in the universe, maybe name-checking the Division as part of their interference. I also stand by my previous theory that we're likely to eventually see Rassilon return after his exile in Hell Bent. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if he served as the face of an effort to bring back the Time Lords in some form, opening up questions of their oppressive history (expect the Timeless Child's trauma to be emphasised) and whether the universe is better off without its fantastical elements suppressed, even if this does open the universe up to the dangers he fought like the Vampires, Carrionites, Great Old Ones etc. (Particular emphasis on the last of these, given it's sort of implied the only reason eg. the Great Intelligence isn't a full-power Cthulhu Mythos Yog-Sothoth is because of the Anchoring.) Perhaps the Sisterhood of Karn's newfound influence on Gallifrey in the wake of the Time War and Lungbarrow could play a role here.

#Doctor Who #DW Theory #DW Meta #RTD #Fifteenth Doctor #The Time War #The Flux #The Anchoring of the Thread #Rassilon #Wild Blue Yonder #Doctor Who EU