#and dare I say completed?

[vosveti]

Miguel O’Hara being a soccer dad (part 1)

#I get why everyone dresses Miguel in like mafia boyfriend clothes but #he’s a dad #he’d be dressed like Winston duke in Us #complete with dad sneakers #dare I say khakis #miguel o'hara #miguel and gabriella #dad miguel o'hara #across the spiderverse #spider man across the spider verse #atsv fanart #atsv miguel #spider man 2099 #atsv miguel o’hara #gabriella o’hara

[subpar-celestial]

I just imagine that going from regular hair to fire hair would burn anything on your head

Because I know my hand writing is hard to read:

Deuce- Sorry, I was just thinking...have you ever tried using any hair clips or something?

Deuce- I've just noticed it's always getting in your eyes

Jackson- Oh, um..yea actually

*Burnt hair accessories

Deuce- Oh, because of Ho-

Jackson- It's because of Holt

#monster high #jackson jekyll #deuce gorgon #holt hyde #for once i dont completely hate this #dare i say i may be a touch proud #idk if theres a ship name for these two but this is a ship thing #thats what i like about monster high #i feel like you can ship anyone and for the most part it all works

[fairuzfan]

Drives me crazy when people act like if you don’t vote for Biden it’ll be your fault if Trump gets elected. Actually I think it’s Bidens fault for becoming unelectable by supporting a genocide

It straight up is his fault. He underestimated the Arab population in major swing states yeah, but also he genuinely thought that he could get away with it. He thought that Palestinians would shut up and die or be subjugated. I have no interest in a war mongering genocider's protection and I believe if you feel protected by him then you are one of the people who benefit the most from the genocide of people around the world.

#i hate him and i hate every fucking person who tries to guilt me into voting for him #dont you fucking dare say the words trump is worse #i despise trump but stop making biden seem like hes not bad by comparison. #he is a genocider. he is completely and totally evil.

[understandably-odd]

i feel like rachel dare is hated a lot because she “gets in the way of percabeth.” but in reality she was just a fifteen year old girl who liked a guy. like she was never an anti-annabeth or willfully stopping percy from being with annabeth (in fact she actually does encourage percy to go after annabeth). she, similar to calypso, just fell for percy, understood he did not reciprocate her feelings, and let him go. and that’s not even the whole of her story! like so much of what is said about rachel is just relating to percy, but she herself is such a cool character. like she led percy and annabeth through the labyrinth, something that nobody else was able to navigate. she hit kronos in the eye with a hairbrush, and though she didn’t know who he was at first, she knew he was dangerous. she literally became the oracle! like rachel dare is such a cool, incredible character and she is always watered down to an obstacle in the percabeth relationship, which she never was.

#and she would never have made a move on percy if she had known he was completely uninterested. like she was not #preventing his relationship with annabeth. he was also a little interested in her and though his feelings never went beyond #a crush any thoughts he had abt annabeth vs rachel were merely his own. like rachel was not putting herself against annabeth #also as much as i love annabeth rachel did not deserve the treatment that annabeth gave her. like annabeth’s jealousy was because she also #liked percy but rachel was consistently nice to her despite that. #anyways. could say more but i feel like this is the most i have rambled on here in a bit. so. #jack quacks #rachel elizabeth dare #percy jackson #pjo #percy jackson and the olympians #annabeth chase #please i hope this makes sense

[13eyond13]

I think the moment Light's crush on L first smacked him in the manga (like when it finally rooted and started blooming in his guts) was when L was like "you're my first ever friend" whilst smirking into his teacup. And not because Light fully believed he was being sincere about being friends, but because he KNEW L was slyly teasing him and speaking to him on more than one level at once. Nothing more unexpected funny flattering and intriguing than that for him right then

#im thinking about this specifically because of that post about the girl getting a huge crush on her enemy that saved all her threats #bc that's basically that moment for light i think #light tries to squash all positive emotions towards others at all times when he's kira if they interfere with his plans after all #but if L does something like this to him then it forces him to think about his feelings in a strategic preparation sort of way #nay dare i say it basically is giving light permission to do so #he can now hold off on completely stamping out those feelings as soon as they arise #almost (he thinks) as a way to study his enemy and see how full of shit he may or may not actually be about such things #this moment probably starts a shift in light where he can allow himself to acknowledge that he maybe has a bit more than just #enemy feels for L you know #bc maybe L also is having other kinds of feels about him?? #whether or not it's true it would impress him as a bold move #and kickstart him having to analyze what he actually does sincerely feel for L #and maybe start reframing and recontextualizing a lot of their tense ambiguous interactions up til that point secretly as well #heck we basically see him doing that when hes like lounging at his desk going HAH if it's friendship he wants then by god it's friendship #he will get #and this game of chicken with L about saying theyre friends keeps him from being able to completely avoid confronting #any complicated feels #like he otherwise probably would #because he legit cant back down from preparing for another battle of the wits with L #both because of his competitive pride and his genuine need to protect himself #would he call it a crush to himself yet #no probably not #i feel like that came later much later #he def would have acknowledged it as such by the end of the story tho #essentially L found a way to create a little wedge to ram in the door to Light's feels #and that is a smart enough move to probably have made Light start developing a crush on him even if he didn't have one already #l lawliet #light yagami #lawlight #p

[pandoratheprocrasticreator]

dana terrace knows how fandoms work. she knows if you show ppl even the barest hint of an m/f couple, especially one involving an angsty white boy, ppl will jump on that shit like rabid dogs and itll completely overshadow whatever queer rep you want ppl to actually pay attention to. that’s why she introduced hunter the way she did. first they have an episode where luz gets kissed by a girl and it’s made clear to the audience that they’re on track to be each others love interests. and only then does she introduce hunter’s angsty blond YA love interest looking ass.

and even then they tried SUPER hard to hammer in how much hunter is NOT luz’s love interest. they make luz lean in as if she was going to kiss him and then smack him to show that she isn’t going to. and then they do that thing where hunter licks luz’s hand and luz wipes it on his face. which is something that has been memed to death with siblings. just so the audience immediately understands what kind of dynamic the show wants these two to have. if they skipped any of these steps they were worried the fandom would see luz have a close relationship with a conventionally attractive white boy and start foaming at the mouth for this ship to replace lumity. maybe if disney saw a boy and a girl who aren’t immediately sibling coded they’d also start foaming at the mouth for it to replace lumity. so the crew had to play it safe.

anyway my point is i hope the crew also knows what they’re doing with the huntlow ship. idk what they’re setting up but if the huntlow ship gets together and it’s not wedged between a full 10 minute clip of the raeda wedding and a full 10 minute clip of a sappy slice of life lumity date then every toh related tag is going to be INSUFFERABLE and i hope dana knows it.

#toh #the owl house #luz noceda #lumity #hunter noceda #hunter toh #huntlow #shipping #dana terrace #granted i dont see how the tags wouldnt be insufferable either way #if they get together and its not immediately overshadowed by lumity or raeda the tags are going to be filled with huntlow shippers #completely ignoring the beautifully queer romances the crew fought tooth and nail to get in favor of an easy m/f ship anyone could have done #if they do the rejection idea ppl have been bouncing around the tags are going to still be filled with huntlow shippers #who have done a 180 on their opinion on willow bc they only ever cared about her as a decoration for hunter #saying the most vile and likely sexist and racist stuff about this very lovable character for daring to reject their pet white boi #if they just leave it ambiguous then both the huntlow likers AND the huntlow dislikers are going to start chomping at the bit #and rant about how it was super badly written and how it either didnt make sense that they didnt get together #or how it didnt make sense that willow didnt outright reject him #and basically overshadow everything else that happens in the show #this is the least insufferable option but i hope they go for the second one bc in story i think it would be the best for the characters #anyway this isnt to say in these options all of this annoying whining and circlejerking will be by the same people #just different groups of people who will be annoying under different circumstances #but no matter the circumstance there will at least be one annoying group #a worthy price for participating in fandom i suppose

[aiweirdness]

What about the current news about the attempted use of ai as lawyer representation! Seems ai passed several law courses.

I would like to be judged by a jury of ai please

If the questions were answerable by ai then they were answerable by bullshitting and they were not good questions

possibly several not good law courses

#if it cited any precedent you can bet it was completely made up #usable if you are in a movie and only need to sound like a lawyer #nobody better dare try to give this as a substitute to someone who can't afford a lawyer #i mean it #someone at a fancy newspaper please put me on record saying this

[jasontoddenthusiastt]

The New Titans #55 (1989)

Batman (2010-) #641

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Red Hood and the Outlaws (2016-) #6

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Batman and Red Hood (2011-) #20

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Batman (2016-) #138

They sure do bAT&Tman. They sure as hell do.

Yet Jason never thought this way about you.

#Don’t you dare kill them with a simple headshot Jason! I have to keep them alive so I can torment them until they wished they were dead #they’ll never use their hands again. this is the superior way #and you should follow in my footsteps as any self-respecting non-criminal vigilante would in order to keep your conscience squeaky clean #also how dare you not be more understanding of the fact that I completely betrayed your trust #and threw your unhealable trauma in your face and shamelessly admitted to it #after I slit your throat in front of the murderer responsible for that same trauma while he laughed in your face a few years back #god you are a terrible son u are so selfish everything I ever said about you while u were dead was true ur being such a burden rn #also I just love how in batman 640 Bruce was going around interrogating Ollie and Clark (ppl who died + came back) #to find a *~rational~* explanation for how Jason was even here #instead of yk. just being glad your child is alive #and when Damian died he does all this shit to Jason to figure *how to* bring Dami back #after he burned his artwork the same way he emptied out Jason’s room #god you flaming turd of a father never change #the fact that lobdell boiled down Jason’s reasoning to ‘he’s the bad guy and you’re the good guy Jason’ #already shows we’re starting off on the wrong foot but #Jason coming back to Bruce in every new comic and saying the same ‘I tried it your way. or sucks’ thing is so silly because #it* #he already learned that decades ago #all the way back in batman 424 lol #you’re just. making him. look like an idiot. but yk what maybe that’s still better than the self-deprecating diversion bs #that’s actually convincing more people ‘yay Jason want redemption this is revolutionary & has definitely never been done a billion times b4 #and is a step in the *right* direction’ #my post

[daz4i]

i think i could make for a funny insane fictional character that seems normal at first glance and then unveils their insane side BUT you find out this one's also just an exaggeration and in fact this character is just extremely sad and tired and has no sense of identity so they latch onto a made up persona. ahem. for no real reason idk i just think i could pull it off

#like a character that seems chill but in battles or during certain story beats goes completely insane #then if you delve deeper into like their personal side story or smth (like support or social link type of thing) you find out the truth #or maybe in the main story if it keeps going for even longer. #dare i say. this is. low key(!!!). a mix of nikolai goro and dimitri i think. not entirely but somewhat.

[friendly-neighborhood-hermit]

Yes, Velvet and Veneer ate with their final chase scene song mashup, but everyone saying that they should've won? You guys would probably fall into a cult so easily, with how you're simply thinking they should've won because you were swooned by their (faked/stolen) voices

#and frankly it makes me sick? like they committed crimes? and attempted murded on innocent Trolls #people gotta stop calling them innocent #im not one to tell you you cant like a villain #as long as you recognize what they are and acknowledge that #like Veneer is hilarious I love him but that doesnt mean he's a completely innocent individual #im sorry for this rant but i was angry about it #so angry that people were saying they shoulda won and that they did nothing wrong like they didnt even pay attention to the movie #dreamworks trolls #trolls: band together #maybe im just angry because Branch is literally my favorite Character and how dare you try to hurt him by claiming #the people trying to capture him and his family and torture them are innocent and should have won #like seriously that just irks me so much i want to singlehandedly punch everyone who says that #im definitely not being overdramatic either

[57sfinest]

okay as a Jean Enjoyer i feel like i need to say this because there are different genres of jean enjoyment (jeanres if you will). i am of the faction where i don’t really vibe with the whole “jeangst” thing (as it exists as a fandom phenomenon) and here’s why. so much of the stuff i see labeled “jeangst” is WAY too sympathetic to and forgiving of jean for my taste. like he’s woobified or there’s a lot of uncritical ‘poor jean harry is so mean to him and now harry’s amnesia ruined his life :(’ type stuff which is such a fundamental misunderstanding of him and his role in harry’s past & present and it skews how we view his dynamic with harry too. and i don’t mean this as “oh considering jean’s pov is bad!!1!1″ no i consider his pov all the time i am indescribably mentally ill about the torment that the jeanharry relationship puts both jean and harry through. but when we consider his point of view i really think that just ascribing him the simple role of ‘poor depressed punching bag’ strips him of all the interesting parts of his character & also contributes to a less nuanced and accurate understanding of harry as well (it makes it easy to villainize him for his addiction and mental illness, which in and of themselves aren’t moral failings-- harry was a bad person for his behavior, which is not the same as his addiction or his illnesses)

like, jean put himself in this situation. over and over again. yes he was likely forced into working with harry, but whatever’s going on between them is more than a workplace conflict. you look at luiga’s twitter and he’s said so much about jean and harry’s codependency and the other mentions of a very close and very unhealthy personal relationship. you see the way jean talks about his own role vs harry’s in the ending-- jean WANTS to be the poor victim, he wants everyone to see him as the helpless punching bag who is being such a saint by Putting Up With Harry And His Bullshit, look at me, i’m so much better than this stupid mentally ill addict! he’s like harry you are so unprofessional, and there is something wrong with you, and we are all so tired of putting up with you and your shitty behavior, but here he is sitting in a hotel lobby in a wig to harass harry while harry is actually doing his job!! like jean my love here you are reaming harry out about “doing his fucking job” sir what are you doing!! you are sitting in a hotel looking angry for 14 hours just in case your special little partner who you are definitely sooo mad at condescends to speak to you for a few minutes!! and you dragged poor judit out here too!! jean. girl. babe. it’s time to admit you are a massive hypocrite with an even bigger victim complex. you, a mentally ill addict, are losing your shit at harry for being a mentally ill addict. why don’t you meaningfully address the actual behaviors instead of just reminding harry that he’s an alcoholic every 2 minutes.

like i’m not saying jean should have infinite patience for harry after multiple years of mistreatment but damn dude the double standards are insane. jean is instigating a messy public breakup and being pretty abusive the whole time and then he’s like everyone feel bad for ME and not STUPID HARRY who is an ALCOHOLIC in case anyone forgot. he goes on and on about how much his life sucks and how much harry sucks and boohoo poor him he’s so depressed and beaten down by the shitkid etc but then in ANY sub-ideal ending you get there’s still something that tells you that he’s still taking harry back or at least considering it. in the cuno ending “he can’t leave you behind. he just can’t. one final time...” even in the worst ending “if you make it-- if you’re sober for 10 months-- tell us. i’ll work with you again.” jean babe if you hate him so much then stay the fuck away from him!! damn!! your codependency is showing!! your victim complex is showing!! just go get harry’s name tattooed on you at this point like at the very least it might get you some sympathy from people at the bar when they ask about what’s very clearly an Ex’s Name Tattoo

#this got out of hand. sorry #anyway yeah i disagree with 'jeangst' on principle because it's too nice to jean basically #you can be sympathetic to his point of view without being a Jean Apologist or completely erasing his role in a mutually abusive dynamic #i love to think about how much this whole situation hurts him. and i love to think about how a lot of it is his fault #it's so much more interesting for him to be a participant in his own victimhood #he's standing there goading harry into punching him and then he gets punched and is like HOW DARE YOU PUNCH ME!! #well sir you see if you tape a sign on your forehead that says kick me then eventually you are going to be kicked. #the jeanharry relationship as a form of self harm for both parties involved etc etc #using each other to punish themselves etc etc #just enough good in it to keep them going. just enough bad to make it bitter the whole way through. the push and pull of addiction etc etc #see a return to jean/harry partnership after martinaise would be so funny #jean tries to provoke harry says some shitty stuff etc and harry just like. starts crying or having a panic attack or whatever #and jean is like hold on this makes ME look like the bad guy. come on quick hit me. come on say something mean. call me a slur. please #or maybe harry goes right back to being an asshole depending on ur guy. and nothing ever changes and they hurt each other for ever and ever #until they succumb to the inevitable murder-suicide #kiwipost #jv meta #jean vicquemare #I HATE THIS GUY *beating him with one of those carpet dust racket things*

[gibbearish]

btw its interesting the way james tries to imply that like. well the videos that have plagiarism are the ones our dumb stupid annoying patrons requested about bad topics that didnt deserve to have the effort put in to covering them well so basically its fine. like obv thats interesting on its own but moreso the fact that he doesnt actually /say/ it, or like. give a list of the videos hes referring to, just says "those videos are very clear on which ones they were" i think as a nod meaning like "yknow the ones everyones talking about". unless what hes meaning is that like they put a note in certain videos saying "this video was requested by a patron, we here at james somertom incorporated do not espouse these views" which seems unlikely to me. idk methinks maybe it's because there is indeed a lot more than people think and with all the buzz he's not sure which ones have been discovered yet or not, so putting down a solid list that missed some would look like he was still hiding things whereas putting down a fully sourced list would be admitting to wayyyy more than anyone's found yet

#which is ironic too bc if he genuinely did want to prove he understood what he did wrong and that hed changed thatd be the way to do it #yknow like a full list of every single source including ones no one has found on their own or /can/ find anymore would a) be taking full #responsibility and b) make people less likely to always be like 'youre still hiding something' #which in turn makes me super think hes still hiding a lot of somethings #also cant go without stating that the 'request a video topic' thing was only for $100/month patrons after 3 months on that tier #like fucker these people gave you THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS AT LEAST and youre trying to blame it on them?????? #no one forced you to make 'let patrons pick video topics' a reward dude like. hello???????? #shit dude even hbombs highest tier ($10 for anyone wondering bc he doesnt see his audience as a money machine lmao) #just says you can vote in polls about future topics #like that makes complete sense to me as a version of this‚ the most dedicated audience members get a say in the future of the #channel while the creator still gets overall control of the direction #also 'patrons who gave me fuckloads of money asked me to make videos on topics i didnt like so i plagiarized those' is i think uhhh #worse than just 'i plagiarize everything without remorse' frankly? #like at least with the second youre just a general shitbag but the first where youre a shitbag specifically to the people #majorly financially supporting you rather than just like. be an adult and say 'hm i dont feel like that topic really works for the channel‚ #do you have any other ideas?' #or dare i say even perhaps yknow. doing what other youtubers do in similar situations and find ways to tie that subject #to what they usually talk about is just. wild #course that last one would take actual creativity and aint that just the crux of the issue #james somerton #or i say cannot go without stating i should say cannot go without restating kwnrkabdkwbrn

[densitywell]

ultimately the thing about the, "how dare the rest of Bells Hells debate whether to save the gods or not when Orym's family was killed by the people trying to kill the gods" take is that a personal tragedy is not a determinative argument, especially wrt an issue this fundamentally world-altering. its completely understandable that Orym finds the deaths of Will and Derrig inextricable from this topic. what's being demanded of him emotionally is enormous. but nothing about being in opposition to the gods requires that someone take the actions Ludinus and the Ruby Vanguard have taken, and they are far from the sole representatives of this ideology. and Will and Derrig's actual feelings regarding the gods had very little to do with their deaths.

(and, really: if the deaths of Orym's family makes questioning the gods' place unconscionable, than what does Aeor make of supporting them?)

beyond that: the discomfort of a single individual does not disallow a topic from discussion. it's an indication to tread lightly, with care and patience for that individual. but it is not grounds to consider a conversation as vast and complex as this one decided. especially given that Orym is far from the only member of the Hells who has intense emotions and traumas tied up in this; Orym's feelings should not take precedent over, for example, the negative experiences Ashton and Laudna have had with gods and their followers.

but also, like, even if you truly believe that anyone being ambivalent or antagonistic towards the gods in this situation is self-centered and wrong, unconditional support is simply not where the Hells are at. and if they don't talk about it now, they're gonna have to talk about it later, when they're being asked to put their hand on the scale and there's mere moments left to act.

#critical role #cr3 #posting this now so i don't rewrite it entirely again hey #bells hells #crposting #anyways this talking point has been rearing its ugly head again. died down for a while there #and after watching ashton and laudna's completely understandable and highly emotional reasons for distrusting the gods #get diminished and invalidated and turned into their own fault at the same time as people were. dare i say. coddling Orym. well #(ultimately i think this is as much about how insistent a lot of fans are that unconditional support of the gods is the Only Good Take) #(as it is any particular bias towards Orym. although I think Orym's normativity is absolutely germane with that perspective) #(there's probably some dead body calculus you could do to justify Aeor and condemn the attack on Zephrah. if you wanted to miss the point) #conversely this is not saying ashton and laudna's feelings on the topic should take precedence over oryms. #the implication of the “it's mean to be against the gods in front of orym” take is that their feelings should not be shared at all! #or else they're being bad friends to him. hope this helps

[arabela25]

Due Vite, Marco Mengoni | Italy, Eurovision Song Contest 2023

#eurovision #eurovision 2023 #esc #marco mengoni #italy #due vite #italy '23 #so I will probably not be listening to this song on my free time #and idk... surely there were more interesting songs to win sanremo #(dare I say... maybe a woman?) #(there's always next year I guess) #but tbh this did work on me on the night #I got it I felt something #the vocals were good the emotion was there #that's a comfortable top 10 in both jury and televote #(it actually had the closest amount of points between the two: 176 and 174) #and I'm not completely immune to pretty man no one is perfect

[uncanny-tranny]

Maybe it's just me, but part of why I never really felt completely secure in being public about my own artistic endeavors was how... being proud of yourself in any capacity for any reason is almost a faux pas, if that makes sense.

I've noticed how it's almost expected to perform the air of humility, but is that humility? Is it humility to say, "Oh, I'm sorry for clogging your feed with my awful art" or anything to the effect of self-deprecation?

I think that's why I so often gravitate toward those who make "bad art." There's a sense of freedom that is only achieved with the level of hubris that being unashamed in the number of people who hate your art. I wonder, though, how many people don't hate the art as much as they hate that they can't chastise the artist into humility, into recognizing how "terrible" an artist they "actually" are?

#art #i have clinical enough anxiety to not need people to expect self-deprecation from me when i do anything... #i always find it fascinating and almost freeing to see an artist make their own shit and be PROUD of that work #i unironically need to watch the room because that's the type of energy that i need so desperately #i do genuinely wonder if the largest critics of some of the 'worst' pieces of art do just tend to hate that the artist is openly prideful... #...that it isn't necessarily the art itself that completely enrages them but that they don't have the weapon of shame and humiliation... #...to put the artist 'back in their place' (the bottom)? #maybe i've been overanalyzing people's intention but i do wonder #i'm not saying you aren't allowed to dislike art (i dislike SO much art)... #...what i am saying is not all hatred of art is created equal and not all of it is something that is really as bad as it's portrayed #i need to emphasize that you are allowed to dislike art for whatever reason. there's some art i don't like for pretty petty reasons... #...but i don't think that requires me demanding artists to be ashamed and self-deprecate whenever they dare show their pieces #i think so many people are conditioned into self-hatred that anybody who shows any level of self-respect is off-putting though #like that's something i've really noticed a lot #and i think this is an aspect of the trend towards seeing self-hatred as neutral and even good

[bylertruther]

y'all are gonna hate me for this one but i think it's worth nothing that eleven levels up and develops more as a person whenever she breaks up with mike, and how the vines were tightening around her as he was giving his speech and roping them back into a romantic relationship/context (not his fault btw no mike slander here + it's complicated), but when she's reviving max the source that she pulls her power, focus, and resolve from are memories where max is reminding her to be her OWN person, that she doesn't need anyone else, and she is more than enough as she is with "not hopper. not mike. you." and "there's more to life than stupid boys."

she performs a miracle by believing in herself and the one and first ever person that ever taught her to do so. the girl who viewed her not as a superhero that happens to be a girl, but a girl that happens to be a superhero, too. the girl who encouraged her to grow and change and put herself first. that's who and what give her the courage to fight on.

like literally how much more clear do they need to make it that her romantic relationship with him is holding her back? just look at seasons three and four as well as how the flashback they used for mike's speech was of her in the woods which is undoubtedly a nod to the fact that he doesn't see her as she is now and is stuck in the past while she desperately wants to move forward.

i just. !!!!! i'm sorry but Be Serious Please we can admit this and be real about it. it's okay. it does not make either of them a terrible awful character okay We Can Say It! It's Okay! and i focused on el's perspective here, but the show makes it exceedingly clear that they are not compatible in this way at all and that this relationship is something that makes them both feel worse about themselves in serious ways. they don't have a strong foundation between them to fall back on and they won't be able to move forward and fix things between them until they forge one. everything is shit because at the end of the day they don't feel secure or comfortable with each other in a way that actually matters.

#they jumped into being bf and gf without ever becoming friends first and it shows and we can and should say tht :/ #platonic besties e|mike ok sure but maybe once they learn how to be friends first? 🤨 #maybe once they learn how to not idealize n lie to each other and feel safe with each other and learn how to actually talk? #they have cute moments when it's lighthearted n carefree but when shit gets real or hard it all just hits the fan #like. they have Issues ok these are not little tiny issues not when it affects their self worth and self image THAT fucking bad lmao #mike literally feels worthless pretty much like he's just some loser with no redeeming qualities that someone wouldn't like unless they #needed him somehow for something and eleven didn't even know what it meant to LIKE things and have your own tastes and felt #like she didn't know who she was and felt like she was a monster and completely other because of this box that they'd put her in and #then chastise her for whenever she dared to be a human being and step outside of it or do something they didn't like #i just. i like eleven and michael so much that's why it bothers me whn ppl act like those issues are not serious. they are. #they're not real people they're characters but it's like . they are my blorbos and that makes all the difference. u kno? :/ #mine #mike #eleven