#anti nikolai duology

[aleksanderscult]

#the darkling #pro darkling #for them ✨delulu is the solulu✨ #maturing is realizing how problematic the narrative is by “showing” that a centuries long prejudice can end either by using peaceful soluti #or by not dirtying your hands at all otherwise you're a villain for doing so #according to these books: are you trying to fight fire with fire? JAIL! YOU'RE EVIL! #grishaverse #aleksander morozova #pro aleksander morozova #grishaverse trilogy #shadow and bone #anti nikolai duology

[stromuprisahat]

Liliyana, one hand pressed to her bleeding head, cried, “You cannot sell her off now! She’s Grisha. It’s against the law. She is the property of the king and will go to school to train.”

King of Scars- Chapter 25

I completely forgot it's clearly stated in books, that yes, indeed, GRISHA ARE SERFS.

So no, it's not just the Darkling whining to Alina to look more sympathetic. Once you're discovered, you don't belong to yourself, your life doesn't belong to you, you have no future outside of what the Crown deems appropriate.

Now how exactly does that work with Nikolai's reforms? Servitude isn't abolished yet, but Grisha draft is. Does that mean there are lists of Grisha outside of military service and Grisha get "appointed" elsewhere?! Are Grisha no longer serfs? Are they (on paper) free citizens now?

If so, the last two should earn them plenty more hatred from both "oridnary" otkazat'sya serfs, who weren't freed yet AND a lot of free otkazat'sya, whose jobs, land and living space will those Grisha now "take". Hell, look into history- any time a new group enters job market, there's a wave of resentment and fear that they'll steal work from locals.

If Nikolai truly freed Grisha before the rest of Ravkan serfs, his actions are counter-productive and likely to work against wide-spread acceptance.

#Grishaverse #KoS Chapter 25 #Grisha #Second Army #Ravka #grishanalyticritical #Nikolai Lantsov #The Righteous Gang™ #Second pseudoArmy #King of Scars #King of Scars duology #V #books #quotes #Leigh Bardugo #anti Leigh Bardugo #because she should really stop trying to write politics.

[grishaverse-chaos]

following up on my post from earlier, I'd like to remind all darkl!ng stans that Nikolai faced all the same problems as king (in the kos duology) that the darkl!ng did, as well as several other new problems (the demon, having to find a wife, etc) and committed ZERO mass murders. your fav could never

#grishaverse #mayhem.txt #mayhem grishaverse originals #more was done for grisha rights and Ravka's problems in the kos duology than darkles EVER DID let's be real #and yes i have receipts on this btw #nikolai changed the little palace from compulsory military service to a SCHOOL!!! and made it OPTIONAL!!! again: your fav could NEVER #everything nina adrik + leoni did in fjerda!! the darkl!ng could never!!! #negotiating peace with shu han and fjerda!!! #anyways i am and always will be an alina stan first and foremost BUT i am considering becoming a nikolai fanblog to piss off darkl!ng fans #because honestly. he did so much more in TWO YEARS than the darkl!ng did in two MILLENNIA #nikolai lantsov #anti darkling #it WAS possible to fix Ravka's problems without committing any mass murders. the darkl!ng just chose violence at every possible opportunity

[lilisouless]

Once saw a post critizing Zoya and Nikolai for not giving Yuri emphaty for his backstory and , alright maybe some emphaty would have been good but we are talking about the person parading as if the darkling was a saviour when he ruined both Zoya and Nikolai´s lifes as soon as they are concerned AND he called Genya´s scars a blessing.

Like, all of them had traumas and a lot of them caused by the person Yuri is trying to convince them its the best thing that ever happened, of course they got mad

#anti darkling #nikolai lantsov #zoya nazyalensky #nikolai duology #genya safin

[greensaplinggrace]

the king of scars duology was leigh bardugo’s answer to every darklina shipper/darkling fan justifying the darkling’s crimes, and honestly that's why it's so hilarious. like imagine fumbling your supposed "clapback" that bad. you couldn't parse a real argument out of that shitshow if you tried.

#antis may want to rethink holding up the nikolai duology as “proof” of what they've been saying #not to be that person but you're all probably better off forming your own actually half decent analyses and arguments #shadow and bone #grishaverse #sab discourse #sab salt #negative #pro darklina #man i guess #the problem i have with that tag is that it feels like it doesn't actually apply #this isn't pro darklina its anti idiocy #generally speaking #i have no issue with anti arguments when they're actually. you know. good #myramblings #anti darklina bs #fandomcourse

[lpa6zn]

"Zoya will live a very long life. despite the demon, you may not do the same."

🦋✨"Then i will love her from my grave."✨🦋

#i am so in love with him #🦋🦋🦋 #shadow and bone #grishaverse #zoyalai #nikolai lanstov #sobachka #zoya nazyalensky #zoya nabri #patrick gibson #paddy gibson #sujaya dasgupta #anti darkling #king of scars #rule of wolves #row spoilers #shadow and bone s3 #demon king #dragon queen #nikolai duology

[blairwaldcrf]

alina: "nikolai can find someone else to run the second army, someone else to be his bride."

nikolai: i am a man with two birds and but one stone 😏

#zoyalai #nikolai lantsov #anti nikolina #grishaverse #nikolai duology #book spoilers #cherry talks

[ineffablelvrs]

bro the fuck is darkolai when u have a perfectly good mlm nikolai ship which is dominik x nikolai right there

#shadow and bone #anti darkling #nikolai lanstov #what was dominiks last name did he even have a last name #anyway im gonna look for it later #nikolai x dominik #king of scars #rule of wolves #nikolai duology #leigh bardugo #grishaverse #k he doesn't have a last name. unfair #dominik shadow and bone #dominik grishaverse #dominik king of scars #that should do it #dominikolai #dominik vertov #ok apparently he hs last name in the show nvm that #also i dont want to be hashtag controversial but let me just. mal and nikolai. s&s scenes were pretty gay ngl

[thestarkster1465]

I read the ending of RoW again and I am bitter

#aleksander morozova #aleksander kirigan #the darkling #anti rule of wolves #grishaverse critical #alina baby i love you but WHAT THE FUCK #row was so stupid #nikolai duology #general kirigan #being near mal corroded alina's brain #make grishaverse make sense ffs #i mean.... im pretty sure fucking percy jackson did better worldbuilding than lb ever did

[multi-fandom-bi]

Hearing Genya absolutly demolish the Darkling is all the therapy I needed 😌

#genya safin #you go girl #destroy the fucker #the darkling #aleksander morozova #king of scars #rule of wolves #nikolai duology #this is a Darkling hate account #i will hate him till i'm 6 feet deep #anti darkling

[jayciethings]

I can tell Shadow and Bone season 2 has dropped cos a lot of my old anti M*lina posts and Nikolina love posts are getting reblogged 😅 Meanwhile, having finished the Grisha trilogy and partway through the Six of Crows dulogy, I'm not sure I even want to watch S2.

Firstly, cos I'm either going to be disappointed in the depiction of Nikolai, and therefore frustrated, or I will love the depiction of Nikolai and be even more frustrated cos I know what happens with him and Alina.

Secondly, because I don't love how they're interweaving Six of Crows into it. Those characters deserve their own series. They're so complex.

Thirdly, because I loathe what Bardugo does to Alina in the end. Pbbblllttttt

#shadow and bone #shadow and bone s2 #nikolina #nikolai lantsov #ruin and rising spoilers #anti malina #six of crows #six of crows duology #leigh bardugo #the grisha trilogy #the Grisha trilogy spoilers #shadow and bone spoilers #possibly #adding that last one to be safe

[aleksanderscult]

The fact that Leigh Bardugo totally nerfed and butchered her most interesting characters (the Darkling, Nikolai) and gave happy endings to her most boring and annoying ones (Mal, Zoya) is the most bizarre and fucked up thing to do as an author.

#the darkling #nikolai lantsov #i don't know how she fucking did that #but it's the first time I'm encountering such a thing as a reader #grishaverse #shadow and bone #grishaverse trilogy #anti nikolai duology #aleksander morozova #pro darkling #pro aleksander morozova #anti alina's wasted potential #anti zoya nazyalensky #anti mal oretsev

[stromuprisahat]

What changes would you give to the Six of Crow duology, to fit it into a continuity where Darklina reunited and ruled Ravka? Honestly, aside from Nina's backstory, and a few other little tweaks, I don't think the duology would have huge changes. After all, Darklina can't change society that fast. I also think Nikolai Zoya and Genya could have appeared just as well. Simply Nikolai wouldn't be the king, but that wouldn't stop him from working with/for Darklina. And honestly, I've always found it a bit stupid that the king of Ravka goes on the road himself with two grisha when he has his own country to take care of.

Well yes, Nina wouldn't be on the road, but there's very little Grisha after the war, so we can get her some speeded-up training outside of Little Palace. Not abroad, maybe some station nearer the borders, where she'd be able to practice her linguistic skills talking to refugees, or interrogating captives.

Suli was best for missions in the northwest. Shu meant you’d be stuck translating diplomatic papers.

Shadow and Bone- Chapter 9

As you said, even a couple of powerful Grisha won't make their enemies behave in a day. Raids are to be expected. She could've been captured on Ravkan soil.

When drüskelle almost killed Alina on her way from Kribirsk to Os Alta, Matthias could be in a group infiltrating Ravka near Ulensk for example. It's both near Fjerda and the (remains of the) Fold, but then again, unexpected shenanigans would have to ensure to get them to Ketterdam.

West Ravka would be an easier choice then. They're likely to be unhappy about re-connection with their poorer, differently-thinking sibling. Show had openly admitted Westerners are selling Grisha to their enemies. Nina could be among them, except this time she'd still be a hormonal teenager with unfinished education.

KoS MCs would be more complicated.

Genya is still a traitor, and Aleksander's hardly the forgiving type. A veeeery big AU I've been thinking about for a while would be faking her change of heart to double-cross Alina. Picture a politically-shrewd spy, bleaching her own face for years to help overthrow her rapist... only for the Coup to go to hell.

A new variable appears, putting a greater value on her own peace and quiet than necassary change, and force failed to make her co-oparate. Loyalists boarded ship captained by a suspicious character, likely with agenda of his own... so the spy comes up with a sneaky strategy as the plan B, should it be necessary. When it becomes obvious Alina will slip through their fingers once again, an order comes to "stop her".

... and once everything's ready to take the throne, the Darkling with his forces secures the capital and plants his spy once again. Alina has a knack for escaping after all and who would have suspected mutilated girl, cowering in shadows?

That's one way to give Genya the recognition she deserves. Enter Evgenia Safina, the spymaster and/or ruthless, cunning delegate she should have become.

Zoya doesn't have much to offer, but quite a beef with the Darkling. He'll be always the one, who "killed" her aunt. And she's still just a replacable Squaller. If I were the Darkling, I'd use her as deterrent example. Public trial and fitting punishment.

Nikolai... well, the wisest course of action would be killing him off too. He's a possible competitor for the Throne, and he IS ambitious by himself, not merely in love with Ravka like we're told by the narrative.

Even discredited, there would be those preferring a bastard with a crown to the Saint-enslaving Satan.

It's true Sturmhond was useful to Ravka once, and could be so again, but how would we ensure that's what he'll remain?

And honestly, I've always found it a bit stupid that the king of Ravka goes on the road himself with two grisha when he has his own country to take care of.

That's to show he's a man of people! The boring kingly stuff's being done by itself!

Back to the start- SoC plot could remain almost the same, although it would offer a new storyline about how is Ravka trying to deal with the threat of parem. Or a mention here and there. Or nothing at all, if we're sticking with Crows-only POV and all their info would be Kaz's deductions and hearsay.

The Ravkan delegates in CK would simply be lead by Genya (See: above), so Wylan would get his face back, and the rest was mostly about collecting points for "well-known character appearance" anyway.

#reply #Grishaverse #What if/AU/... #Six of Crows duology #grishanalyticritical #Darklina #Nina Zenik #Genya Safin #Zoya Nazyalensky #Nikolai Lantsov #S&B Chapter 9 #books #quotes #Leigh Bardugo #anti Zoya #because there are people I'd rather avoid.

[darklinaforever]

Why were the two books about Nicholai bad? I do not understand( I read them and I sincerely liked them, they reveal Nicholai, I cried a lot over them and his story seemed wonderful to me, however, I met many negative opinions about these two books, but nothing concrete(

I recommend you @stromuprisahat to understand my point of view. And so much the better if you enjoyed the duology !

#nikolai lantsov #king of scars #rule of wolves #anti king of scars duology

[lilisouless]

"I am so jealous, why can't i have a glow up like everyone else? i never got the experience because i was born a beautiful baby, grew consistently as a gorgeous woman and will probably die as a stunning old lady." - Zoya Nazyalensky´s best attempt at modesty

#grishaverse incorrect quotes #sab incorrect quotes #netflix shadow and bone #leigh bardugo #don't tag as anti #zoya nazyalensky #grishaverse #shadow and bone #sab #nikolai duology #rule of wolves #king of scars #grisha trilogy

[greensaplinggrace]

🔥🔥 Zoya Nazyalensky unpopular opinions

okay I don't really engage with her character enough to bring out the big guns, so I'll go with the only two opinions I really have on her at all (which by the way I know fandom loves to blorbofy her so please spare me from any hate for this 😭)

my first opinion is that zoya's character arc throughout the entire nikolai duology felt ridiculously overblown - like a child playing at dolls. aside from the terrible implications lb tried to hammer home about grisha powers that actually somehow made things more racist, zoya's pov itself was incredibly obtuse. the only way to get through it is to view it as a study in unreliable narration, because otherwise you have to deal with the fact that this is just a self insert for lb at this point, and zoya's real character has practically been erased.

also I'm not even going to get into how offensive zoya's rise to power is, especially the way she keeps control.

my second unpopular opinion is that fandom has such a hate boner for the darkling that they forget everything zoya builds is off the back of the darkling's 400+ years of sacrifice. which is to say that the darkling does 99% of it, zoya takes all of that effort and claims it for herself and alina completely, and then there's a deus ex machina that saves them from the consequences of somehow ruining the most important 30% of it and making things worse for the grisha.

all in all, the nikolai duology is a performative piece of garbage where lb is basically the main character and the realism that even fantasy worlds sometimes need is gone. most of it seems to be an attempt at justifying the choices made in sab, yet with worse writing that actually destroys the already spotty lore incorporated previously and makes all of the choices seem less justified. the only way to get through it is to think zoya is hallucinating or braindead, because otherwise she looks ridiculous, and I actually like her character when she's not badly written.

send me a 🔥 for an unpopular opinion (x)

#shadow and bone #grishaverse #sab salt #sab discourse #ask games #sab negativity #anti sab #anti zoya nazyalensky #i know some of my followers like her so don't take this the wrong way btw #no hate to you or anything #zoya nazyalensky critical #i like her character sometimes #but not in the nikolai duology #because reading it is like experiencing the worst kind of acid trip (the delusional anti kind) #i still cant believe she thought the darkling manipulated elizaveta from beyond the grave #that is 100% lb trying to push something at that point because the only other alternative is that zoya is fucking stupid #which would make sense i guess if she thinks changing the minds of bigots just requires a big power show... #when that's why they hate your kind so much in the first place #sure lmfao #asks and answers #fandomcourse #myramblings #anon #ty for the as nonny!