#antie/riel

[the-darkestminds]

Elriels suggesting that shipping Gwyn with Azriel is disrespectful to real SA victims is without a doubt the worst take I have ever seen in my life lol

“Stop shipping Gwyn with ANY man without her consent”

LMFAO WHAT SHE AINT REAL 😭 how tf do I get her consent?? Do I need a permission slip from SJM??

#what the fuck is wrong with y’all #who are you to decide what’s best for every single SA victim? #as if they all must fit the same mold?? #no #anti e/riel #anti ewriel #pro gwyn #pro gwynriel #pro gwyneth berdara #anti elriel #gwynriel #gwyneth berdara #gwyn x azriel #az x gwyn #gwynriel supremacy #sarah j maas #sjm #acowar #acomaf #acotar #pro elucien #a court of wings and ruin #a court of mist and fury #a court of thorns and roses #a court of silver flames #acosf #acofas #ewriel #antielriel #antie/riel

[venusin-aries]

Maybe instead of shaming people for wanting Gwyn, a fictional character, to experience a healthy, consensual and enthusiastic sexual relationship, you start shaming people who think the abused is going to become the abuser. 

Do you understand? There are people in this fandom who would rather have Gwyn do to others what happened to herself than have her with Azriel. 

But that’s not a problem?

#gwynriel #pro gwynriel #gwyn berdara #gwyneth berdara #gwynriel supremacy #azriel #azriel shadowsinger #anti e/riel #antie/riel

[starsreminisce]

Why would I ship Azriel with someone who makes him feel like this

She looked up at him, her face so trusting and hopeful and open that he knew she had no idea that he had done unspeakable things that sullied his hands far beyond their scars. Such terrible things that it was a sacrilege for his fingers to skin, tainting her with his presence. 

when he doesnt feel that way about Gwyn?

He slowly demonstrated, rotating his wrist where she did. "You see how you open up right here?” He corrected his position. “Keep your wrist like that. The blade is an extension of your arm."   Gwyn tried the movement as slowly as he had, and he watched her self-correct, fighting against the urge to open up her wrist and rotate the blade

And why would I ship Elain with someone who treats her like this:

Amren said, “We do not have the time to wait for Nesta to decide. I say we approach Elain tomorrow. Better to have both of them working on it.” Azriel stiffened, an outright sign of temper from him as he said quietly, “There is an innate darkness to the Dread Trove that Elain should not be exposed to.”

when Az treats Gwyn like this:

“There are plenty of other unspeakable things that could be happening to her,” Cassian said, voice thickening. “To Emerie and Gwyn.” The shadows deepened around Azriel, his Siphons gleaming like cobalt fire. “You—we—trained them well, Cassian. Trust in that. It’s all we can do.”

#antie/riel #antielriel #gwynriel #pro gwynriel #gwyn x azriel #azriel x gwyn

[believer25]

E/riels talk about their ship having 4 books of development. For me, it was clear that Moriel was supposed to be endgame until she decided to change Mor sexuality. It was never supposed to be Azriel and Elain.

In ACOSF, we are introduced to Gwyn, who is very similar to Azriel, and by the end, she became a Carynthian, his equal.

Sjm literally retcon the events of Sangravah, making sure that Azriel is in it.

With all that information and more, E/riels have the courage to gaslight us when we say that Gwynriel will be endgame.

And that's what you missed on Glee.

#pro gwynriel #antie/riel #anti e/riel #antielriel #e/riel don't interact #gwynriel #azriel x gwyn #gwyn x azriel #gwynriel supremacy

[mochiknows]

“But Elain is uncomfortable around Lucien! She obviously does not like him!”

No. The girl was in love with her fiancé, she gave him everything and he threw her away without a second thought. Suddenly she was nothing to him. She was kidnapped and traumatized and he decided she was his enemy.

My theory is that she is afraid of giving a male that power to hurt her again. In her experience, love is a fickle thing that can be crushed at any moment. She didn’t even do anything to earn Graysen’s hatred. She probably thought he would still love her after what they did to her.

She likely feels the pull of the mating bond to Lucien, and has decided it’s safer to guard her heart against him and heartbreak. I suspect she is attracted to him and feels desire but will not allow herself to fall into “the trap” again.

#acotar #a court of silver flames #sarah j maas #a court of thorns and roses #elain archeron #elain x lucien #a court of mist and fury #a court of wings and ruin #anti elriel #antie/riel #elain acotar #lucien vanserra

[acourtofthought]

ACOTAR page 312 - Rhys learns of Feyre's name

ACOTAR page 324 - Rhys uses her name for the first time:

ACOMAF page 253 - Cassian is introduced to Nesta for the first time.

ACOMAF - a few weeks later:

HOF page 13 - Rowan meets Aelin

HOF page 61 - Rowan uses her name:

I'm confused why some think it's such a flex that in 2 years Elain has never said Azriel's name 🤔

Especially not when both these scenes were written so pointedly:

#antie/riel #anti e/riel #pro elucien #elucien

[daevastanner]

Breaking the ACOTAR 4th wall:

Rhys: I won the Blood Rite. But Cassian had to carry me the last bit.

Gwyn: Me too.

Rhys: My sister was decapitated and I had to see the traumatic remains.

Gwyn: Me too.

Rhys: I underwent devastating sexual assault.

Gwyn: Me too.

Rhys: I’m a halfbreed.

Gwyn: Me too.

Rhys: We have a lot in common.

Gwyn: We do.

Rhys: So why do Elriels insist on protecting you from sexual intimacy, call out how you aren’t a real Carynthian and ridicule your roots but not me?

Gwyn: That would be because I’m a rival love interest for Azriel and they have to tear apart my character to invalidate my relevance and keep their sinking ship afloat.

Rhys: *picks at lint* Gross.

Gwyn: Yup.

#gwynriel #gwyneth berdara #gwynriel supremacy #anti e*riel #antie/riel #anti elr*el #anti e/riel

[eclecticsuitcat]

the concept that some people read about az’s shadows “skittering back” when elain is near him as opposed to them literally reaching out to gwyn and singing in answer to her and still think that elriel is endgame is so foreign to me,,, like stop lying to yourself 

#acotar #gwynriel #gwyneth berdara #azriel shadowsinger #anti elr*el #antie/riel

[the-new-ribbon]

Ended up on the elriel side of tiktok and im spooked 😦

#spooky #antie/riel #elucien supremacy #pro gwynriel

[theshadowsingersraven]

i'm writing a fic that will probably appeal to most fellow eluciens and if not them, then at least my fellow anti-elriels. it's got:

az/oc

platonic gwynriel being besties

gwyn appreciation

elucien

long overdue lucien apprecation

eris tension

caroline forbes-style development for elain

and more, including it being tlovm and critical role crossover for those of being d&d inclined, but it's not required knowledge!

anyway check it out, kthanks love u all <3

#acotar fanfiction #azriel shadowsinger #azriel x oc #anti-elriel #elucien #pro lucien vanserra #pro azriel #pro elain #gwyneth berdara #antielriel #anti-e/riel #antie/riel #elain archeron #lucien vanserra #eris vanserra

[venusin-aries]

I don’t want to read about Azriel’s shadows vanishing around his love interest. 

I want them to seek her out, tease her, be playful with her, engage enthusiastically with her in the bedroom, and yes, sing and dance with her. Imagine how boring it would be for such an interesting power to vanish around someone you’re supposed to be with, when SJM has already emphasized how curious and willing to interact with Gwyn that power is.  

I want Azriel AND his shadows to feel safe enough to be seen by her, completely. Gwyn saw Azriel and those shadows in action when they first met, yet she never displayed any fear towards them. 

They danced when Gwyn challenged him. They danced with her breath. They calmed when they were watching her. They sang when Azriel left her.

The mating bond is called ‘silent music’. 

These interactions are so much more positive and soooo much more fun and interesting than vanishing. 

I understand people insist Gwyn and the shadows are evil out of jealousy. It really must suck to be deprived of those interactions for your favorite ship 😔

People are so boring for arguing against the 🎶 mate magic 🎶 instead of embracing it and getting excited for whatever else Sarah decides to do with it 🥵❤️‍🔥

#gwynriel #pro gwynriel #gwynriel supremacy #gwyneth berdara #gwyn berdara #azriel #azriel shadowsinger #I guess I’ll tag it as #anti e/riel #though no other ship is even mentioned #antie/riel

[starsreminisce]

While this was happening to Elain, this was Lucien's reaction:

Rhys was there, an arm sliding around my waist. “Can we get you anything, Elain?” He spoke with such gentleness I could barely stand it. “I want to go home,” she repeated. I couldn’t ask her—about Lucien. Not now. Not yet. I turned away, fully prepared to bolt and completely fall apart in another room, another section of the House. But Lucien was standing in the doorway. And from the devastation on his face, I knew he’d heard every word. Seen and heard and felt the hollowness and despair radiating from her.

And where was Azriel throughout this time? Why did he choose not to fly up with Feyre and Lucien? Was his discomfort in carrying Lucien more significant than accompanying them?

“I don’t know why you sent those two buffoons”—a narrowed glance toward Mor and Azriel—“to monitor me.” So this was where Azriel had gone—right to the loft. To no doubt spare Mor from enduring Amren Duty alone.

It's ironic that Azriel chose to comfort Mor amid a cranky Amren rather than console a devastated Elain, who longed to return home.

And isn't it quite serendipitous that when Elain voiced her wish to go home, Lucien was already there?

#elucien #pro elucien #elain x lucien #antie/riel #antielriel

[believer25]

A lot of people are going to be surprised when we get Elain's pov. We will see that her relationship with Lucien is more complex, and it's more than the "she is not interested in him."

#acotar #a court of thorns and roses #sarah j maas #lucien vanserra #pro lucien #pro elain #pro elain archeron #pro elucien #elucien #antie/riel #antielriel #pro lucien vanserra #elain x lucien #lucien acotar

[mystical-blaise]

For all those dumbasses still disgustingly saying Gwyn's lying about her trauma for the sake of their sinking ship.

From the Azriel POV bonus chapter:

#gwynriel supremacy #gwynriel #gwyneth berdara #gwyn x azriel #gwyneth x azriel #azgwyn #gwyn berdara #gwyneth berdara x azriel #azriel x gwyn #gwyn acotar #pro gwynriel #pro gwyn #anti e/riel #antielr*el #antie/riel #anti elr*el #i always come with receipts

[acourtofthought]

"Elain's book will be about choice"

(Returning his gift was a choice and a statement, was it not?)

"Elain owes no man her attention"

(just a minor example of how there are no further interactions between E/riel after Solstice).

It's funny how these arguments are used to show that Elain won't end up with Lucien when some in the fandom refuse to see that as of Solstice, Elain has now kicked Az to the curb.

She was willing to give Az a shot (for whatever reasons she had)......

Az blew it.

He called her mistake before going to Rhys, she returned his gift and said not another word to him, shared not another look. There were no hints of her pining. No hints that she was upset beyond Solstice.

Why are some not respecting that she made the choice to walk away from Az? Shouldn’t everyone respect that she was strong enough to not waste her time on someone that rejected her? It doesn't matter why he did it, he still rejected her with no explanation (giving one months later will be too little too late, don't you think?).

Or do her choices only matter so long as her choice is Az in the end?

By the end of SF, there is absolutely nothing in canon to show that Az is her choice.

Could she change her mind and want to give things with Az another go?

Absolutely.

But if we acknowledge that's a possibility than so is her deciding to give Lucien a chance too.

But as it stands now.....

I don't get the feeling Az is on her mind at all, do you?

The End.

#anti e/riel #anti elr*el #antie/riel

[hlizr50]

Some thoughts about the necklace

There was a post I saw last week on Instagram - I didn't want to read it because I knew it would light the rage inside me - but some friends did and we ended up talking about it anyway.

In this post, the op states that there's no proof that Clotho gave Gwyn the necklace after Azriel left the library. I hate this take, because what reason would Clotho have to choose not to give it to her. But there doesn't seem to be a mention of a delicate golden chain and glass pendant in the rest of ACOSF.

So lets just say, for the sake of argument, that Gwyn did not receive the necklace. Does that change anything?

Does that change that something in Azriel settled after speaking with Gwyn in the training ring on Solstice night?

Does that change that Azriel smiled when he thought about how Gwyn's eyes would light up when she saw the gift?

Does that change that he tucked that image away, in his chest (close to his heart, one might say), and considered it a "thing of secret, lovely beauty"?

Does that change that he felt a spark in his chest when thinking about her receiving the gift?

The answer is... NO. It doesn't change anything. Regardless of whether or not Gwyn actually received the jewelry in question, Azriel's reactions and thoughts remain the same.

Thank you for coming to to my TedTalk.

#gwynriel #gwynriel supremacy #antie/riel #anti e/riel #antielr*el #antielriel #anti elr*el #pro gwynriel #gwyneth berdara #azriel shadowsinger #acotar #gwyn x azriel #azriel x gwyn #acosf #acosf bonus chapter #clotho #a thing of secret lovely beauty #the necklace debacle #Seriously give me one good reason Clotho wouldn't give the necklace to Gwyn if that's what Azriel asked her to do #sarah j maas #sjm