#catalanophobia

[useless-catalanfacts]

A football referee expels a coach for speaking in Catalan

Sadly this doesn't make it to most news because it's not uncommon, but I will translate this to give an idea to foreigners of the situations we have to deal with.

Yet again, another Catalan speaker has been kicked out of somewhere just because they spoke in Catalan in a Catalan-speaking country. This time, it happened in a local football camp in Petra (town in Mallorca, Balearic Islands).

While reading this story, remember that Catalan is the native language of Mallorca, and is legally recognised as a co-official language.

During a local-level football match, the football coach of the team UE Petra protested to the referee that a decision wasn't right. The referee told him "we are in Spain, Mallorca is part of Spain, not Spain part of Mallorca, and you must speak to me in Spanish". The coach continued speaking Catalan, since it's the language of the place where this is happening, and the referee proceeded to expel him. This is what the referee wrote in the match's minutes:

In the half-time, the coach [...] after perceiving my communication in Spanish and being reprimanded for addressing me with the words "this is shameful", starts speaking to me in Catalan. When I ask him to talk to me in Spanish, he continues perpetuating his dialect, where I understood some lacks of respect. Since I could not make him stop, I decide to expel him.

At the end of the minutes card, the referee wrote the reason for expelling him as "for disobeying my orders".

The other witnesses in the football match explain that the referee was very rude to the coach and never asked him politely to change to Spanish, only rudely saying "in Spanish!". Later, the referee also wrote that the coach was "perpetuating his dialect", as we have seen. Using the word "dialect" for a language that has suffered persecution, illegalization and discrimination is an extremely loaded term based on bigotry, only used by the hardcore Catalanophobes who defend that Catalan (and other discriminated languages like Basque and Galician) aren't languages because they're not important or respect-worthy enough to be a language, only a "dialect" (understood as a derogatory word).

The football club UE Petra has complained that this referee is partial and "has taken decisions, as can be seen by the wording used in the minutes, influenced on a coach using his mother tongue in the place where it has been official for centuries".

Now, a few days after the game and the UE Petra publishing a statement explaining it on their social media (you can read it here), the referee has pressed charges, claiming that she has been "threatened" when it was posted on social media. 🤦

Can you imagine if this happened to a Spanish person for speaking Spanish in Madrid? Or French in Paris, or English in London? Can you imagine if doctors threw them out for speaking Spanish in Madrid, French in Paris or English in London? Or hotels, banks, petrol stations did? If policemen identified them because speaking it was seen as lack of respect? Then why do we have to accept that it's normal when it happens to us?

You can find the statement published by this coach's football team UE Petra here (in Catalan). Some sources from newspapers who reported on it: Esport3, Ara Balears, Vilaweb.

#actualitat #català #llengua catalana #mallorca #illes balears #petra #languages #langblr #polyglot #catalan #discrimination #language rights #cultural rights #culture rights #catalanophobia #catalanofòbia #coses de la terra #spain

[minglana]

the one time anticatalanismo combined with aragonese hard-headedness actually did some good

#THIS IS A JOKE BTW there has been so much catalanophobia and aragonesephobia from both parties #i hope i never have to read such comments again ever in my life. ive had enough of both of them #i am PRAYING that this truly has come to an end bc i cant take any more of lamban's stupid ass anticatalan comments #(not that hes gonna stop making them unfortunately)

[beautiful-basque-country]

'funny' how spanish fachos hate basques so much they want them all to disapear and consider them like a whole other race, that when basques do vote to stay away from spain they get all defensive and go "no you're actually spanish stfu!!"

Kaixo anon!

What people need to understand is that Spanish fatxis only accept people that is fatxi or vote for fatxis.

If Basque and Catalan people voted for them so they could be in power perpetually, I swear to you there would be absolutely no Basque or Catalanophobia in Spain.

It's just that we have this tendency to vote WRONG 🙄.

#euskal herria #basque country #pays basque #pais vasco #euskadi #catalunya #pp #spain #politics #anons #personal

[universosinfinitos]

It’s amazing how people still claim catalanophobia doesn’t exist but I make and reblog some posts about the conservative Spanish government acting like a fascist regime and I get unfollowed by liberal spanish people including a mutual I talked quite a lot to who when I asked her about it she instantly blocked me.

#spain #catalonia #catalunya #catalanophobia #my anxiety is through the roof today #and it shouldnt affect me so much but i cant help it

[that-conlang-dude]

So yesterday there was a terrorist attack in Barcelona and Cambrils, which is sick and disgusting, I honestly don't have the words. Do you know what I hate the most in all of this, however? What I hate the most is that in a time like this we are supposed to stand together, you know, at least pretending to love each other. Instead you see people rambling on Twitter about how the attack wasn't that bad, because the ones killed weren't people, they were just Catalans U know? That kind of stuff

#to what I say #rot in hell #Barcelona #terrorism #hate #catalanophobia

[myowncentralperk]

Catalanophobia doesn’t exist. 

But in the Facebook page of “Spaniards in London” they did meet ups to go around the city tearing down any Catalan flags they saw and throwing rocks at the windows that were too far to reach. 

But yeah, Catalanophobia is not a thing....................................................

[qveenofwinter]

I’m truly so tired of rude Spanish unionists, stop insulting others for thinking differently than you, damn it!! I just don’t want to waste my time and energy replying to ignorant people that don’t respect others, so in order to avoid getting more angry I decided to block all those who add disrespectful comments on my posts or others’ concerning the situation we’re living in Catalonia. I JUST WON’T TOLERATE IT ANY LONGER, CATALANOPHOBIA EXISTS AND IT’S THE SPANISH MANIPULATING MEDIA THAT IS TO BLAME!

This is how I think and I won’t hide it. That being said, you too are free to unfollow me or block me (whatever you prefer) if you don’t like what I post #BuenoPuesMoltBéPuesAdiós

#Marta speaks #politics #Catalonia #hi ha algun il·luminat que va dient que el que està fent el govern espanyol amb Catalunya no té res a veure amb el feixisme! #serà que jo tenia una idea molt diferent del que hauria de ser la democràcia...

[arituzz]

it fucking pains me to see all this catalanophobia

#catalonia #spain #catalan referendum #i am pro referendum #my family is andalusian and they are pro referendum too #but then i see all this posts making such a big fuss about it #and downright lying #it pains me #all because they think we shouldn’t vote #it pains me to see how fascist my country really is #i mean i knew it was fascist #but now i see to what extent #i hope at least we catalonians can leave all this behind #and stop being a part of this fascist country #i know there's people all over spain who support us #thank you ♡ #and i wish you the best of luck against these fucking fascists #i'm sorry for the rant but i have so many emotions i can't just shut up

[sayo-moved]

i’m finally back on bcn and i’m Exhausted but it was super fun mayb i post some pics

i’m super scared n numb (so weird) abt what happened here yesterday?? like i literally go to las ramblas with my friends/parents almost every week.

something that’s really fucked up too is the xenophobia, racism, islamophobia & catalanophobia rising up ljksndf people are so fucking rotten inside, i want to throw up, i can’t stop dissociating 

my head has been spinning since it happened... 

#toros de feria #some ranting abt bcn terror attack on read more

[no-passaran]

BECAUSE DEMOCRACY IS ILLEGAL IN SPAIN

This is what’s happening in my country, Catalonia, right now (February 2017).

Catalonia has been occupied by Spain for 300 years. Our language has been banned, our traditions too, even our traditional dances. Imagine how it is to be beaten up if you’re heard at school speaking a word of your mother tongue.

Since the ending of the fascist dictatorship of Spain (~1975) our traditions and our language are legal again, Catalan is even co-official in our land. But the feeling of catalanophobia still stands strong in Spain, and Catalonia is economically discriminated (pays more taxes to Spain and receives way less than the other communities, etc).

This and many other reasons are why we want to be independent. We want to be free.

The Catalan government proposed to do a referendum to see if the Catalan people want to be independent (that year, and the 2 years before it, we had done peaceful protests with between 1.5 million and 2 million people asking for independence). But Spanish government, knowing “yes to independence” was going to win, said it was illegal. Then the Catalan government said it wan’t going to be a referendum, just an enquiry (the legal difference is that in a referendum, the winning resut must be followed, and an enquiry is just to have an idea of what people want). Spain still said no.

But we did it. Yes to independence got 81% of votes. So now Spain is forcing our political dirigents, elected democratically by the Catalan people, to go to trials just for letting us vote.

Today was the first trial, and more than 50,000 people showed up to show their support to President Mas, and the other political charges elected, Joana Ortega and Irene Rigau. And this was during laboral hours, imagine if it had happenned when we weren’t at work/school!

Here’s the BBC’s article on it.

So to sum up: Spain is not a real democracy, and Catalonia is still fighting for its freedom.

Visca la terra lliure! / Long live the free land!

#independència #catalunya #catalonia #democracy #freedom for catalonia #artur mas #world politics #europe #independentism #independencia #independence #protests #demonstration #peaceful protest #catalan independence #independence referendum #indy ref #referendum #💬

[useless-catalanfacts]

No question. Just rant. I love your page. And sorry for chaotic story time vibes, but I don't think I'd realised how crazy this anti-catalan thing really is until I travelled to southern Spain. My Spanish is not great, but I took a course in Catalan in high school (long story on why this was available in my city but it also included a human tower party at the end and it was brilliant even tho I almost died) so when talking to people I casually threw in some Catalan words to help my Spanish. I am Norwegian, and I thought it was kind of like... as if someone was trying to speak Norwegian but casually threw in some Swedish to fill in the gaps. Like we would totally have joked about it, but overall we would just be grateful they really made an effort to be understood. But no. IT WAS NOT THE CASE. My host was literally offended. Like offended offended. I didn't really get it, because it's not like the Catalans have oppressed him and I'm coming here speaking the tongue of the oppressor (its kinda the opposite). But no. My host acted if I was the most ignorant person ever. He basically sat me down and explained that I have to show respect and speak castillian (or english, which was apparently fine, even if he understood about 1% of it), and then I asked if he would speak Catalan if he visited Barcelona and he said he would never visit Barcelona because he didn't like the people there. And then I said that if you hate them so much, why not throw them out of the country, get rid of them, and let them have their own state? It sounds like a win-win. And he looked as if he was gonna hit me.

Ah 😬

I wish things like this surprised me, but I have family from Andalucía and Extremadura and have friends who also have family from Andalucía, and so I've heard this and worse... It also reminded me of a few weeks ago when there was a scandal because a train in Málaga (in Andalucía, southern Spain) gave the announcements in Catalan instead of Spanish (turns out the train had been programmed in Catalonia during the COVID-19 restrictions and later moved to the Málaga train system, but for some mistake this day it was showing COVID-19 precaution in Catalan from 2020 now in 2024). It was such a scandal that it was on the news and politicians were making such a big deal of it, the PP (the most voted party in Málaga and of all Andalucía) also said it was "offensive" and that Malagans were being "laughed at" by the trains. Other errors in public transport that actually mean people can't travel in time don't get reported as much as when one train's screens tell you in Catalan to wear your facemask. 🤷

The last part of what you say, absolutely right. I never understood it either: if they really don't like us, then shouldn't they also be interested in not having anything to do with us? Why not just kick us out? I never really understood it until some years ago when I heard the words of a right-wing Spanish journalist (I think was Federico Jiménez Losantos?) who said something along the lines of "if Catalans want to leave, then leave. But Catalonia is ours." Meaning that Catalan people, individually, we can leave and migrate abroad. But the land is a possession of Spain, our homeland is their property. I think that sums up that view. It's not about being annoyed at having to share a state with a culture you despise, it's about wanting to keep domination.

I'm sorry you had this experience. Your effort to communicate should have been valued, and pulling the words you know from a language from the same linguistic family was a good idea that would have worked great, they wouldn't have found it offensive if the language you knew instead of Catalan was Italian, Portuguese, etc. Thank you very much for sharing your experience, and I hope you could enjoy the rest of your trip (Southern Spain, outside of situations like this, is a beautiful place), and I'm very glad to hear you enjoyed the castells party (and didn't die in it)!

#ask #anonymous #actualitat #catalanophobia #catalanofòbia #coses de la terra #catalonia #catalunya #spain #language rights #language imperialism #imperialism #cultural imperialism #languages #langblr

[minglana]

i made the last post directed at catalan speakers. i was so caught up in standard accent being That Weird that for a moment i lived in a world where catalanophobia didnt exist😩

#sorry. itll probably happen again #spanish supremacists do not touch my post. my blog in general but i doubt theres any following me #ive hopefully scared them all away🥴 #z xarre

[megaclearstudentgarden-blog]

You better speak to me in Spanish! ("Catalanophobia")

[myowncentralperk]

Catalonia’s right to self-determination PETER BUSH for TLS SEPTEMBER 20, 2017 I lived in Barcelona for eleven years (from 2003 to 2014), and, although I now live in Oxford, I still visit regularly with my family. My wife is Catalan, and one of my daughters is an Anglo-Catalan teenager – at home we switch constantly between Catalan, English and Spanish. I mention this to underline that I have first-hand knowledge of Catalan society and the roots of the present conflict over the referendum for self-determination called by the Catalan government for October 1: a conflict that Madrid-based politicians and journalists try to portray as an act of lunacy led by a handful of “retrograde nationalists” who, in the twenty-first century, seek to revive a debate over identity and erect frontiers between peoples. They shamelessly describe those fighting for Catalan sovereignty as fascists, and compare the situation in Catalonia to that in Germany in the 1930s. Rather than attempt to find a political solution to the political problem Catalonia has had since 2006, politicians who will not even repudiate Francoism continually parade the ghost of Hitler in interviews and television debates to delegitimize the Catalan movement for independence. Catalonia certainly has its own language and culture and has defended them tooth and nail over the centuries. Neither the Decreto de Nueva Planta issued by Philip V in 1716, abolishing the institutions of Catalonia, nor successive waves of repression, including the forty years of the Franco dictatorship, succeeded in making Catalans renounce their wish to regain self-government, use their language or develop their rich literary tradition. Nevertheless, what is now happening in Catalonia has very little in common with European nationalist movements of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries. The Catalans don’t base their demand for independence on questions of race, national identity, language, or even their long history as a nation. They emphasize their wish to build a more democratic, more feminist, more plural and inclusive republic, with greater social justice and equality of opportunity. One only has to read and listen to what journalists and politicians who want independence write and say and what people call for at demonstrations. It is a modern discourse that challenges the centralist conservatism of Madrid. The Catalans are proud to be a plural, welcoming society that is generally more tolerant of immigrants than the rest of Spanish society. This is clear from their policies and legislative initiatives (often opposed by the Constitutional Court), and their attitude, for example, during the recent terrorist attack on the Ramblas of Barcelona. One has only to recall the emotional way the father of a child who was killed embraced an imam (an embrace that was virulently criticized in many Madrid newspapers and radio and TV channels). I was living in Barcelona in 2006 when the anti-independence party Citizens (Ciudadanos) started up and when, in that same year, the Popular Party – also opposed to independence – was the driving force behind a campaign throughout Spain to collect signatures against the new Statute of Autonomy that had been passed by the Catalan parliament. The Popular Party’s campaign clearly aimed to instigate a wave of “Catalanophobia” (Both the Popular Party and increasingly the Socialist Party have resorted to stoking resentment against Catalonia, in order to win votes in the rest of Spain). The campaign led to indignation among Catalans, unjustly accused of “lacking solidarity” and “retrograde nationalism”, and ultimately triggered the movement that has now culminated in this referendum. In 2010 the Constitutional Court declared that many of the articles of the Statute were unconstitutional – even though they are constitutional in other statutes in other regions – and proceeded to drain it of all content. Ever since, the movement for independence has grown, bringing together voters on the Left and the Right, nationalists and those who have been historically anti-nationalist, Catalans of diverse origins, Catalan-speakers and Spanish-speakers. The movement has been spurred on by constant provocations and legislative initiatives from Madrid against the Catalan language, culture, infrastructure, economy and Catalan institutions of government. Over a million Catalans have marched in the streets calling for the right to self-determination, and over two and a half million voted in the popular referendum that took place two years ago Quebec and Scotland had their right to a referendum on self-determination recognized by the Canadian and UK governments respectively. Westminster’s All-Party Group on the Catalan referendum has called for Catalonia’s right to a referendum to be recognised by Madrid. Fifty years ago, as a graduate student, I was involved in the underground Spanish opposition to Franco’s dictatorship. It is a disgrace that in modern democratic Europe the Catalans are being forced to organize their referendum in a clandestine fashion. - Peter Bush is a former Director of the British Centre for Literary Translation and a translator of Catalan and Spanish literature.

#catalunya #catalonia #politics

[violetbxdelaire]

my hobbies include making fun of spanish people that brag about being bilingual but then say that catalan and euskera shouldn’t be taught at school

#cate talks #catalan #spanish #euskera #catalanophobia #bilinguism #polyglot problems #i have rlly strong feelings about this and i will fight anyone on this subject istg #i am really passionate about the hate culture thats spread in spain about the other languages spoken #like the hate is so strong they have literally arrested ppl for asking police officers in catalan #and they tried to put a 14-yr-old in jail for sending an email to a supermarket telling them to please sell their stuff also in catalan #and a lot more things #they put a 17-yr-old in jail #they killed a guy #all for being catalan #if you dont believe me search eric bertran/nuria cadenes/guillem agullo on google #or just do a bit of research #i am really angry and ready to fight

[useless-catalanfacts]

The Catalan authors who were kept out of the Nobel Literature Prize for being Catalan

Did you know that there have been a handful of Catalan writers who were candidates to win the Nobel Literature Prize, but because of Spanish interference they never did?

The Nobel Prize discloses its debate and reasoning process 50 years after each edition. This means that we already know the details of what happened in the earliest editions of this Prize, which was started in 1901.

The name of the Catalan play-writer Àngel Guimerà (author of Marta of the Lowlands, Mar i cel, La filla del mar...), whose works have been translated to many languages and played all around Europe and the Americas, with many film and opera adaptations, sounded often in the Nobel committee. He was presented as a candidate to win the Nobel Prize 17 times in a row, since 1907 until his death in 1924. In the editions of 1917 and 1919, many were convinced he would win. However, the declassified documents show why he didn't: as written by the man who was then president of the Nobel Committee, Haralg Härne, Guimerà wasn't given the prize "to avoid hurting the national pride of the Spanish". In 1919, Härne writes that the objective of the Nobel Prize is to promote peace and thus to award Guimerà and show support for a minority culture would be to encourage internal conflict (🤦). The Academy decided that they couldn't give a prize to Guimerà "before awarding another writer who expresses himself in the most ancient noble language of the country" (weird way to mean "the official language", aka Spanish, because they surely didn't mean Basque). In summary, if a Catalan is to be considered, he must always be second to a Spanish man. Even when the Catalan is, in the words of the Nobel Academy, "the most eminent writer of our times", he can never be considered an equal, always must be behind.

Àngel Guimerà wrote in the Catalan language, which was discriminated against by Spanish and considered an enemy by the Spanish government and much of Spanish society. Guimerà was a firm defender of the right to use the Catalan language and that nobody should be forced to speak the imperial languages instead of their own, and was involved with the political movement for the rights of Catalan people. For this reason, every time the famous Swedish academy was considering Guimerà, the Spanish Royal Academy of Language (RAE) fought it with all its might. Nowadays, Guimerà's theatre plays continue to move thousands of spectators every year.

The same happened again with the poet Josep Carner. In the 1960s, Josep Carner was on exile, because he was a Catalan poet writing in Catalan and who stood against the fascist dictatorship of Spain, which persecuted the Catalan language and identity. Famous writers from around the world, including T. S. Eliot, François Mauriac, Giuseppe Ungaretti and Roger Caillois, supported Josep Carner's candidacy to win the Nobel, but the Spanish Government did everything possible to obstruct it. We don't know if Carner would have won or not, but he was deprived of even trying because of the Spanish government's hatred of Catalan.

Something similar seems to have happened between the 1970s and 1990s to three other Catalan poets: Salvador Espriu, J. V. Foix, and Miquel Martí i Pol, where they did not get any support from the Spanish authorities, so we don't know how it would have ended up.

Another example of what it means to have a state actively working against you because of bigotry against your cultural group.

Sources: book Det litterära Nobelpriset by the president of the Nobel Committee Kjell Espmarck, Pep Antoni Roig (El Nacional), Joan Lluís-Lluís (El Punt Avui), and Jordi Marrugat (Institut Ramon Llull).

#literatura #arts #història #àngel guimerà #josep carner #literature #books #reading #nobel prize #nobel literature prize #catalanophobia #catalanofòbia #catalan #cultures #writing #human rights #minority languages #1900s #history