Warning: The First Shadow Spoilers Ahead!
In the First Shadow play we got to see the real perspective of the dinner scene where the Creels are massacred.
We see two versions of Henry. The real good one trapped in his mind by the Mindflayer, and the one controlled by the Mindflayer in the real world. We also see the Mindflayer hovering above the room as it is controlling everything that happened.
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As promised forever ago: The layouts of the Creel house ground floor.
Note: These two maps have alterations! There are also some rooms we don’t see in those maps, so those are mapped based on the assumption that everything else has remained the same. It may not have.
I consulted with Em on these, but if anyone sees anything they want to question…go for it!
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If Joyce and Hopper canonically knew who Henry was, this means that means it’s possible more characters do. Because after all “the shadows of the past have a very long reach”
Remember Ms. Kelly and how we were all theorizing she was plotting against Max?
If this takes place in 1959, it’s possible that they were around the same age, and she knew who Henry was. Could this be “Betty” that was mentioned in the past casting call of the play?
What if Henry and Ms. Kelly eventually got close? What if Henry trusted her enough to give her the key? Or in other words, the answer to what could stop Vecna in the future?
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The First Shadow, Stranger Things Play in 2023 with canon material, will delve into the Creel family further, specifically Henry Creel. Therefore, we will find out more about pre-Creel house and why everything happened. What happened before the move? What are their family dynamics like? What happened to Henry in the past? What happened that is almost haunting the family and what are the “shadows of the past”?
Also, more of a backstory on a younger Joyce and Hopper, perhaps more Bob Newby too.
So this will answer key questions for the end of Stranger Things with new canon material. Additionally, we will find out what secrets haunt the Creel family and the significance of this to the story.
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sigh... that door's being weird again
@henrysglock I've got another (very minor) thing to report that changes about the Creel house between timelines or perspectives or whatever!
there's this circular knobby thing on the interior side of the door. sometimes.
in both Victor's and Henry's tellings of the family first entering the house, knobby is there. it's there when the kids break in. Max sees it in her Dear Billy mindscape vision, and in her pre-snowball-escape vision. it's there in Henry's retelling of the murder night.
but knobby is not there in Victor's retelling of the murder night. I'll put a gif because it's a lot easier to tell in motion - it's definitely not there in the breaking down the door part at least.
also pretty sure it's not there in the Creel trailer. even if I'm missing it in the straight on view, it's not silhouetting when the door opens.
so uhhh. there you go!
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What is it with the Duffers and Numbers
Because I'm me and I can't rest until I've parsed out number shit with dates in Stranger Things...I decided to use OEIS to see if there was an kind of pattern in important dates.
Our important dates being:
1959 -- Creel Murders
1971 -- Willel Birth Year
1979 -- HNL Massacre
1983 -- Mothergate
1985 -- Keygate
1986 -- The Rifts
From here, I decided to find duration differences between events.
March 1959 -> (?) 1971 = 12 ≤ x ≤ 13 years
(?) 1971 -> Sept. 1979 = 8 ≤ x ≤ 9 years
Sept. 1979 -> Nov. 1983 = 4 < x < 5 years
Nov. 1983 -> July 1985 = 1 < x < 2 years
July 1985 -> March 1986 = 0 < x < 1 year
This is where OEIS came in handy.
If we round down, we get 0, 1, 4, 8, 12.
This sequence includes all relevant ages for El and the Creels:
Henry and Alice are 12 and 15 respectively when the Creel murders happen. Henry's Virginia is 36. Henry's Victor is 40.
Edward and Virginia, are also presumably 12 and 15 when their Creel murders happen. Edward's Victor is listed as being 35. Edward's Alice has no age listed.
Born in 1947, Henward were 24 when El was born.
El and Henward are 8 and 32 respectively when the first gate opens.
El and Henward are 12 and 36 respectively when Mothergate opens.
El is 15 or close to it when Vecward, now 39, opens the Rifts.
The Mindflayer, while not being a gate-opening event, occurred in '84, which also appears in the sequence.
That's really freaky on its own.
However, If we round up, we get: 1, 2, 5, 9, 13. This sequence is known as the Euler Path:
What makes this so interesting is a) it's a well known pattern (if you're a math nerd you've heard of it before. Suzie would absolutely know this pattern), and b) it has Implications™
Essentially, the Euler Path/Circuit is the longest single, non-overlapping path between two points.
Being a biology nerd myself, my favorite Stranger Things science connection is this:
The Eulerian path is routinely used, nowadays, to reconstruct genomic sequences for ancestry tracking/taxonomic tracking. It's essentially a highly-accurate, DNA-based version of what Dustin did with D'art in ST2. It's an algorithmic puzzle-solving strategy.
The most relevant connection is actually tied to the definition of a Eulerian Path/Cycle, and that is:
Timelines, The Missing Creel Door, the 5-Room Puzzle.
As we've seen in Em's post here, the very structure of the Creel house changes in the show:
A founding puzzle related to the Euler Paths theory is the 5-Room Puzzle.
Now, our house has six rooms, including the foyer/hallways, which makes it slightly different from the 5-Room Puzzle. I was able to find a variety of solutions to each, and there was one pattern that emerged:
They're almost the same, but based on the odd-evenness of the door assignments...they're distinctly different. Each path variation in Edward's house begins in the chess room. Each path variation in Henry's house begins in Victor's study. Both end in this odd, unseen console/kitchen area.
They start differently, separated by a wall. Edward's house has the doorway between those starting rooms, Henry's does not. It doesn't matter. They both end up in the same room.
I'm working on finalizing a look at the loops and cycles version of these paths, and I'm fairly sure there's a pattern in there too, but I have to nail down a couple of other details before I go posting them.
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