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nartml · 8 months
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"Itachi was a good brother"
"He did nothing wrong"
Sigh
CW: Entirely unorganized, I had thoughts to express and no order in which to do so.
What are some of y'all on? Respectfully, what are some of you guys talking about? Why is this even a debate? Some hardcore Itachi stans need to get their eyesight checked 😭
There are ways to acknowledge a character's tragedy, their impossible situation, the excruciating circumstances they're under, without justifying genocide and inhumane torture.
Itachi was a tool. Thoroughly manipulated by everyone, and exposed to horrifyingly gruesome sights at a young age. He was a tool, which did Konoha's bidding, followed instructions to a T. And yes, the stuff that he's done will forever haunt him. He possibly hasn't known a moment of true peace or happiness in his life. All very tragic.
That said, he still. Well, sucks. And fucked up badly. You can feel sympathy for him –you probably should– and I do too. But the fact that he didn't regret it makes me side eye him.
His clan was planning a revolution, because they were all alienated, discriminated against, victims of unbelievable prejudice and racism based on a bunch of nonsensical bullshit (fuck Konoha btw)
So naturally, when the government mysteriously found out, he was ordered to slaughter all his people –including pregnant women and little kids– mercilessly. And naturally, he did as they asked.
But he couldn't kill his little brother, because apparently "Konoha's orders were not more important than your life, Sasuke, doesn't he love you so much".
So instead of killing him, he makes him relive the massacre of his family a cool 500k times, then sets him up for a lifetime of hatred, pain, anger, bitterness, survivor's guilt and loneliness.
Manipulates Sasuke's worldview, makes him believe that in order to achieve his goal of killing him (something that Itachi set him up for as well btw), he needs to be entirely isolated without any sort of connection to other people. Shows up 5 years later, traumatizes Sasuke some more, tells him he needs to kill his best friend. Yk, all the stuff a good older brother does.
Then some years later Sasuke manages to kill him, just as Itachi wanted, and Itachi ofc pokes him on the forehead, even in death keeping his distance from Sasuke without ever clarifying what it means.
Isn't he just the loveliest?
He's a tragic character with an abundance of issues, who absolutely fucked Sasuke's life entirely, and no matter how much you kick your feet and scream, he's not a good older brother.
"But he loved Sasuke so much"
I'm sure he did; at least in a twisted sort of way. But holy shit, this might blow your mind to smithereens, just because you love someone doesn't mean you love them right, that you're good for them, or did good to them.
Itachi loved Sasuke, but he sure as fucking shit did not love him right, was not good for him, nor did good to him.
"But Itachi was so guilty, it's not like he was having fun when doing all this, he'll forever be traumatized by what he did"
This shouldn't even be up for debate. Feelings, intentions and actions are not of equal importance. The impact of an action you took is more important than your intentions and/or your feelings regarding that action. One is tangible and affects others, the other is internalized and all you.
Itachi's situation was complicated, and there was no realistic outcome where everyone is happy. He was cornered, more or less.
So he held his head down and did as he was told.
Regardless of how he felt about it before, during and afterwards, despite his intentions and reasoning for what he did to both his clan and Sasuke, despite the guilt he feels, it doesn't change the cold, hard reality of the negative impact he had on his little brother and his family's name. Sure, intentions/feelings/reasoning plays a role in feeling sympathy for him, but you gotta hold him fucking accountable for the atrocities he committed.
You could say that he did it for peace, because the revolution would've been bloody, that Konoha had to do what it did to avoid countless deaths, or whatever bullshit arguments y'all want to make. It's inconceivable to me how you can't even hear the wrong in those statements.
Konoha did not do it for peace, there was NOTHING peaceful about any of it, no justification for it. If you think genocide is the only solution to a rebellion that hasn't even been executed yet, then I guess y'all's mindsets are way too fucked up and you should look into it. Konoha most certainly used this coup as an excuse to rid itself of the thorn that were the Uchihas. Because you know what ended up happening?
Konoha, the very government who orchestrated this, ended up then writing Itachi off as living proof of "the curse of hatred", as someone who went insane because of the clan's innate ugliness, that damned, forsaken curse that no wretched member of that family can shake off. Entirely shoved this disgusting, fucked up situation under the mat.
In the end, when it's time to write the history books, Itachi and the Uchiha clan will be registered as vile creatures who were full of hatred and that's how they'll be remembered. No justice was served for them, and that is heartbreaking.
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TL;DR
Moral of the story: Konoha sucks, Itachi was not a good brother and did a lot of things wrong, and the Uchiha clan is a forever misunderstood tragedy.
Bonus: fuck Tobirama "curse of nonexistent wiener" Senju
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To clarify something:
I am not one of those haters who sit on their moral high horse, point fingers and go "They're such a horrible person, I would never do such a thing. Look at me, the angelic good person, I can't even fathom how someone could do this". Shut up, you're annoying, and what you're saying makes no sense, because you quite frankly can't know what you'd do if you were in that character's shoes, and moreover, it doesn't even matter because it's, guess what, not about you. Quit judging how much of a "scumbag" a character is based on your morality without showing any sort of empathy or understanding of a situation.
You can't relate in the slightest (which is good in this case, I wish nobody ever relates to Itachi's situation), therefore your judgement and morals are irrelevant
Specifically talking about Itachi, I don't can't know if I would've done what he did, because I'm 120% disconnected from the circumstances and laws of his reality. If I were in his shoes and in his universe, I would be an entirely different person with different ideals. Same goes for you.
All this being said, I personally feel iffy about Itachi. I have sympathy for him, but I still think he has objectively fucked up very, very badly.
Plus, I am a Sasuke defender to my core and from a purely pro-sasuke standpoint, he annoys me.
I think I rambled a bit off topic at some point, this is a mess
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parachutingkitten · 2 months
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Well, great. That's the day. My contributions are no good anyway, I'm not a creative person. I can't make art. I'm not an idea guy. Who am I kidding? I'm fucking worthless.
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softest-epilogue · 18 days
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apparently I have to make it known again that if you are not pro-palestine, please unfollow me, block me, whatever, I don’t give a flying fuck. bye bye.
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duckduckgoose-exe · 5 months
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You're such a faker. Complaining about your non-existent mental health concerns? God. Its offensive to actual systems. It offensive to people with real bpd, and real npd.
Non existent? Why do you get to choose which of my mental health concerns actually exist, huh?
what made you think I’m faking?
why are you all up my ass in my inbox, sending hate?
that’s pretty fucking petty.
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thelittlelostgraycat · 9 months
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I just made myself sad while thinking about Jean Moreau and what would happen to him if he didn't survivre the nest — dying because of Riko's abuse, alone, scared, in pain. Calling out for Kevin, somebody, anybody to save him.
Will they bury him ? Will they give an excuse for his disappearance ? Will they just get rid of the body ? Forgotten, still alone in some dark place where nobody will ever find him. How would Kevin react ? Because Kevin left him, didn't spare a thought for his oldest friend and now Jean is dead and nobody will ever come to free him. Broken body, red scars on his face. Dark bruises on pale skin, where blood meet freckles, where the once pale grey eyes went milky. Horror and beauty intertwined.
Did he die because of blood loss ? Of broken ribs that pierced his lungs ? Of being waterboarded too much ? Of exhaustion and pain ? Did he die because Riko pushing him down the stairs once more was just too brutal ? A broken neck ? A brain bleed ?
Can someone take my laptop, i need jail. Really, I made myself sob, Jean my baby, i'm glad that you're alive.
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91vaults-art · 1 year
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Fuck you and fuck blaze
🙃
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msclaritea · 3 months
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It must be exhausting to live in conspiracy land all day long. Have you thought of taking a break from the internet? Going outside would probably be a big help. Therapy would also be useful in your case.
Tell me, when is the last time one of your family member or real life friend talk to you? I bet they're all avoiding the crap out of you. You're not making friends on the internet, you're isolating yourself.
Funny. I could have SWORN I was visiting family, and a friend, who has a non-profit, building him a garden from scratch, single-handedly, for free, in the middle of winter,
and after a day of work outside, am currently curled up on a couch, belly full of Chili and Spaghetti, with my legs being warmed by 1....2...3 Chihuahuas; all the while watching my favorite episode of Doctor Who (the Doctor and Martha with Shakespeare, if you must know).
See? I can multitask, too. I can go scorched earth on Hollywood AND fully involve myself in healthy relationships and activities.
Jealous?
Now, you are interrupting my night. So, FUCK OFF.
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dmnksrt · 23 days
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It’s just the universe telling me to fuck you.
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dystopiandramaqueen · 2 years
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Dear the Writers,
If Nick and Lawrence were on a trip.
And Lawrence got to talk to June.
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I CAN’T BELIEVE THEY AXED WILLOW 😠🖕🏼 FKN FK FK!!!
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multitrackdrifting · 2 years
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etherealsign282 · 1 year
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Look I know it's nice to be like "haha fuck capitalism Yolo I'm gonna spend all the money I have because I deserve fun things" because same
But if you're hurting your fellow poor person due to your spending habits, you're not saying fuck you to capitalism, you're saying fuck you to poor people.
Not paying bills that others rely on you to pay is hurting your fellow person.
Expecting them to come save you every time you make a lethal financial error, to the point of taking higher risks, is hurting your fellow person.
Spending more money on something fun and useless instead of paying back the hundreds (but less than the fun thing) you owe your friend is hurting your fellow person.
Seeing your debt with other people as unimportant and below even entertanment in general, is hurting your fellow person.
Stealing from them is hurting them.
Using them is hurting them.
Manipulating them is hurting them.
Threatening to kick them out if they don't do what you want is hurting them.
Bribing them with things you'll never pay back is hurting them.
Acting like a landlord in a roommate situation is hurting them. (Unless agreed upon first).
Basically, you can be as irresponsible as you want with your money in the name of "sticking it to the man". Just stop begging for others to come clean up your mess with zero regard for the fact that they might not have the money to do so, and then act like the victim.
(Also I feel it's pretty privileged in general to have so much money that you have to go out of your way to fuck yourself over on purpose so you can expect handouts for responsibilities you don't want to spend money on because it doesn't give serotonin. But I digress.)
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darlinghaiden · 6 months
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who needs therapy when you can scream tummy hurts by renne rapp while doing your makeup
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hivemindhypnosis · 9 months
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Fuck you
LMAO HEY FISH
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jewishbarbies · 1 year
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*watching a tiktok ad for goddess themed candles from an indie witch candle store*
me: oh nice, they’re really creative so far!
ad: …and the Lilith, goddess of demons, candle-
me:
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I don’t think you understand the concept of being poor. Must be nice. If it was that easy to save money, I would. When you live off $450 dollars a month on disability checks, you don’t have the luxury and privilege of having hundreds of dollars stashed away for fucking ice cream trucks. But thanks so much for acting like I’m stupid for not being as privileged as you are.
Dude, shut the fuck up. My grampa, who is the one who encouraged me to always keep cash on hand, lived through the great depression. My family was on welfare on and off throughout my childhood. But your fucking dumbass thinks what, a soft-serve ice cream is $20? Anyway, sucks to be you when you need to take public transit or get a small meal but can't because the debit machines and ATMs aren't working and you never bothered to have even a little bit of change on hand. :)
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