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#i think they both ship shuake
clay-pidgeon · 10 months
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the fact i have 2 completely unrelated persona 5 mutuals is so fucking funny to me, especially considering my i know jack shit about persona 5
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nottheeconomy · 6 months
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The beautifully dashing leader of the phantom thieves and the charming detective princess!
My take on fem shuake!!!
I like my toxic doomed yaoi but toxic doomed Yuri hits so much harder when it comes to these two
(Brainrot under the read more!)
If Shuake were girls they would be so much more volatile than canon it’s hilarious
Honestly if Akechi was born a girl instead of a boy his already terrible life would be twice as hard hahahaha
Fem Akechi would have a much harder time willingly refraining from directly murdering shido
Like canon Akechi is this close to just shooting him in the head anytime he sees him but fem Akechi would have so much more temptation to see him dead dead dead
She’s going to have to withstand his disgustingly sexist statements with a bright smile on her face as shido says things like “oh Akechi, you’re not like those other women that only serve to further this country’s great longevity through rearing the young, you’re different, more capable.” And she needs to let those slimy words go in one ear and out if she’s going to be patient enough for him to be elected first
Not to mention she’s going to experience so much more scrutiny as a public idol since she’ll be a girl
Like in canon he already has a questionable fanbase but just imagine the weirdos that’ll idolise her as the detective princess
And she’s definitely not going to be taken as seriously by people for her detective work because people would JUST WRITE HER OFF AS A PRETTY FACE!!!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAA JUST THE THOUGHT OF HOW MUCH HARDER FEM AKECHI HAS TO CLIMB TO THE TOP TO GET TO WHERE SHE IS!!!!!
She’s going to curate every facet of her image to make sure people takes her as seriously as possible
Her style needs to be trendy but not too trendy or people would call her vain
She needs to be careful of showing too much skin or she’ll be slutshamed
She needs to word her statements more delicately or else people would call her annoying do you see the visionnnnnnnnn
Like canon Akechi’s public mask is already so tightly wound against his face, fem Akechi’s public mask would be a full suit of armour (get it get it? Hahahahhaha)
Meanwhile! If Akira was a girl, the notion of her being a meddler when she tries to stop shido would be much stronger I think
Also I have a feeling she’s going to get harassed at shujin for having her criminal record leaked instead of how in canon everyone left Akira alone due to fear since people won’t take her assault charge as seriously
And then there’s kamoshida…eugh
So in conclusion:
I just think both of them would have so much more pent up rage than in canon hahahahahha
Like I’m sure they would’ve physically thrown hands in the boiler room of shido’s ship, like forget about the personas they’re going to throttle each other as the rest of the thieves watch hahahahahahhaa
On the bright side though I can see fem Akechi being closer to Sae and the detective princess being a role model to little girls
Hm but I have a feeling the rivalry between Akechi and Akira would feel like those early 2010s tabloid articles about how female stars had beef with each other, like it’ll be framed as something super catty hahahahaha
Man these girlies are filled with so much anger, honestly it’ll be so iconic if Akechi and Akira were written as girls but I err don’t have that much trust in Altus!
These are just my silly headcanons for fem Shuake! If you disagree with what I said it’s ok hahahahaha
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megaderping · 4 months
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Nothing drives me up the wall more in the Persona 5 fandom than when people act like they'd be so much better than Akechi in his position. "Well, I would know better!" Bullshit. You don't know that. Japan's treatment of illegitimate children is so heinous that I don't think it's easy for westerners to comprehend. As I understand it, when you turn 15, you're thrown out of the system. Akechi was... how old when he approached Shido? Ah, yes, 15. Likely, he'd been cast out to fend for himself when Yaldabaoth gave him the power (with very malevolent intentions). Shido has his cleaner and his connections. Even if Akechi quit, he wouldn't be safe in the real world. Maybe in the Metaverse, but how long could he even feasibly stay there before needing to eat and sleep? There are safe areas, sure, but those are hardly accommodating, and people severely understate the impact Shido could've had on his mental health once he did join with him. Look at Yusuke and Haru, both of whom were abused and neglected by their parental figures. Both of whom had difficulty even acknowledging what was wrong. Haru continued to downplay her father's crimes and atrocities as well as his abuse of her, likely in part due to her grief and in part due to her wishes for what he could've been. Trauma and mental illness as well as a lack of support systems can break people and push them to make reckless choices because they believe there is nothing else they are good for. The Phantom Thieves were lucky enough to have each other, and that saved them from going down a dark path. Any one of them could have and, hell, if Yaldabaoth had chosen Yusuke or Haru, for instance, there's no way Madarame and Okumura wouldn't have taken advantage of that power and made them do heinous things. Just... god. I really hate the armchair "well, I'm smart enough to know better and I would take homelessness over ~murder~." It's easy to say that when you haven't suffered years of neglect and presumably abuse in a society that sees you as less than human due to circumstances outside your control (e.g. being an illegitimate child whose mother did sex work) in a country that is opposed to adoption overall and just... Argh. And this all started because I tried to point out that, hey, maybe calling Shuake toxic in a server for a fic that is one of the big Akechi and Shuake fics isn't the kindest thing, tried to explain things, and it just blew up. While also pushing for why their preferred ship is better and like... god. I hate that so much. ._. Fastest way to turn me off of a ship is when really hostile fans use their preferred pairing to tear down one that I really like. Just... blargh. What a way to start the day.
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senblades · 11 days
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Who are your fav persona 3 people!!!
[cracks knuckles] I'm glad you asked
So! I don't actively /dislike/ anyone in the p3 cast, but some of them definitely speak to me more than others:
First things first: Ryoji. Love that guy. He's so silly. And so tragic. And he makes me sad. (Like holy SHIT I wasn't expecting a reprise of his song in the stage play on December 31st but it TOOK ME OUT) (also Ryomina my love)
The whole Shinji, Ken, and Akihiko trio ALSO lives in my head rent free... two idiots and their son. love them. I've been desperately scouring for Akishinji content and between that, Ryomina, and Shuake, I've come to realise that my shipping habits seem to boil down to "doomed yaoi" HAHA
More on Ken, I have a LOT of thoughts about how he and Akechi would interact and (likely) get along. Whether that be in the p5 era or a situation a la Throw Away Your Mask. (Or, something I've yet to find: Akechi with no time travel shenanigins getting in on the p3 plot. You can bet THAT'S a longfic idea I've got rattling around) (Also the half-brothers headcanon is super fun. Especially when combined with Futago siblings. Congratulations, Shido! All your kids are persona users, and they all hate you! :D)
Aigis! She's just. Infinitely charming. She'll say something that will absolutely take me out and then turn around and say something devestating HAHA. I also think that her and Ryoji's social link and linked episodes respectively do a LOT of thematic work in the story. Death himself and the girl that can't die, both trying to figure out how to live (y'all that shit's METAL)
Strega are so interesting to me... I don't think they're perfect villains- I think their motivation is underexplored and a bit choppy, but ASIDE from that, I really like all three of them as characters. Idk why Jin is so funny to me LMAO he's so in love with Takaya and Takaya's just like "k. met your quota yet?" (But, also, some of Takaya's lines definitely imply that he cares about Jin too, but doesn't let himself acknowledge that at all due to his whole "attachments are weakness" shtick, another thematic point to contest his ideology, as he is actively denying himself happiness in pursuit of some idea of salvation)
Chidori- I like her well enough. Some of her lines really did make me smile, but I think she's another case of "underdeveloped" (I actually read Throw Away Your Mask before I played p3r, so that fic did a lot of the heavy lifting for my like of Chidori (and, by extension, Jundori) i think)
Which leads nicely into: Junpei! He's da man. Nuff' said. HAHA if you can't tell, I love Junpei. Awkward dudebro stuff aside (though it's occasionally part of his charm), I really love his development and personality in general. I really love how all the "bro" characters across the modern three persona games, while fulfilling the same archetype, are all distinct in personality and motivation and I love them ALL
Mitsuru is quite interesting to me, but I think she might be a case of "I wish her social link was about something else". Personal preference of course, but I kind of wish that it focused more on this intense guilt she seems to have for things that a) weren't her fault, and b) happened when she was 7 or younger. THAT is a super interesting mindset to explore, imo, though I did find her social ineptitude charming haha
Yukari... I think that she might grow on me more later. I can feel it in my bones. I suppose I'll find out with The Answer dlc! I know broadly what happens in it, but I haven't actually seem a playthrough of it, nor do I really know what happens to all the characters. I think my opinion of Yukari might have been tainted slightly by everyone having such strong opinions HAHA- I definitely like her, but I don't think she's clicked just yet. (I did really like her social link, though!) (also Yukamitsu I love Yukamitsu. The lesbians aren't doomed! Good for them)
Okay this is going to upset some people probably but Koromaru isn't really much of a character and I keep forgetting about him LMAO. uh. he's a good boy?
Fuuka... I really think that she's just underdeveloped. Her social link didn't really do her any favours in my eyes (I'm SO glad that atlus cut the "girl learns to cook" social link in p5 HAHA i really didn't like it with Yukiko either) Her social link obviously isn't just the cooking shenanigins, but it overshadows the bits of character growth that happen intermittently. I think that her SL really would have benefitted from being more about her love of electronics, if anything, since that isn't explored AT ALL and is more a plot device than a character trait. (Plus, the root of all her self-esteem issues go unadressed, which I think would have been a good character beat otherwise) (In saying this I think Fuuka/Natsuki is very cute. The lesbians stay winning in p3)
Makoto/Minato! Honestly, I was pretty neutral towards him from the majority of the fics I had read before playing p3r. I really like his characterisation in Throw Away Your Mask and The Twilight Wants Him Back, but those had been outliers in my mind. I started liking him more and more after playing p3r, and NOW, after having watched 1/4 of the p3 movies- oh boy. boy oh boy. I really like him now HAHA. Having his apathy actually effect his realtionships with SEES early on is super interesting and I love when it's done. (plus, I think Yukari hating him at first really strengthens their friendship later on)
Uh this post is already super long so for all the other plot-relavant characters and confidants I'm just gonna say "it's a secret" and melt into a bush or something
(tysm for the ask! You can tell I was waiting for an excuse to talk about this HAHA)
(btw y'all shoud read the fics I mentioned in this- they're excellent)
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ratgrinders · 16 days
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(this is kipperlillyforpresident) Hi. This is an insane thing to ask a person, but also I believe you are the best scholar for the job, so I will ask anyway: if Kipperlilly played Persona 5, do you think she would ship ShuAke?
Points in favor: homosexuality, the fact that it isn't canon would probably appeal to her brand of problems
Points against: She might hate Akira to begin with because of seeing his specialness as Unfair (why does this attic trash get to be the wildcard, huh?!?!), potential for her to want to self-ship with Akechi?
I'm unsure on this matter. I yield the floor to you.
Tumblr user kipperlilyforpresident, it is an honor 🙏
(wow this got longer and more rambly than i thought WHOOPS lol)
Before I answer I wanna go on a brief tangent and just say how SIMILAR Akechi and Kipperlily are. Legitimately, during that meeting at the food trucks where Brennan described Kipperlily as having a "polished steel ball of a personality", my first thought was to Akechi's detective prince persona and just how METICULOUS he is at presenting this perfect, pristine version of himself. They're both filled with violent, uncontrollable rage at the perceived unfairness of the world, they're both slightly murderous (it's okay I forgive them though), they're both extreme overachievers who nonetheless struggle with connections and making friends. Literally the main difference is just that (as I've seen you mention in tags) Akechi's rage all stems from his deadbeat father and the injustices he faced as a result while Kipperlily very explicitly DOESN'T have a tragic backstory. If these two met they would either be best friends or want to kill each other.
So going off of that, I just wanna say that I am both a kipperbees and shuake shipper, and the things that appeal to me about both ships are VERY similar. In kipperbees, like shuake, you got two people who at first seem diametrically opposed and irreconcilable; one side of the ship filled with extreme rage and jealousy at the other party but who is unwilling to admit that their rage stems from a very genuine place of wanting what the other person has, being unwilling to admit just how interesting they find the other person (it goes against their meticulous plans, it's counter to everything they believe) so they instead mislabel the feeling as hatred. The preppy, uptight overachiever who cares so much, and the person who seems to get it all (friends, success) without caring at all.
Going back to your original question, I think Kipperlily would latch on to Akechi hard if she ever played the game, both as a sort of self-insert fantasy ("he's like me but with the tragedy and cosmic importance I desperately crave") and spite (because this interesting character is still cast aside as an NPC in the grand crusade of the Phantom Thieves, he deserves justice and not death).
I think maybe at first she'd ship shuake as a sort of self-ship by proxy, believing (not that I agree) that the protagonist is a blank slate for you to project yourself onto. But I think ultimately she'd be unable to articulate just what about the ship is so appealing to her, because by subconsciously putting herself in Akechi's shoes, now she can imagine this scenario where someone understands her fully and still accepts her, someone who appeals to her competitive nature, someone who is opposed to her wrongdoing and thus subconsciously validates the internal strife she has over her own actions, but who will come back for her anyway because I think she, too, subconsciously wants to be saved from what she's been doing.
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shittyakechiweekly · 22 days
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22 for the character asks for Akechi and Futaba?
For Akechi, I like it when fics really show his internal struggles with redemption and the duality of subconsciously wanting love and praise from a person you hate and who has wronged you. I don't really like it when he gets flattened to either the tsundere or softboy character. Let him have the depth, let him be contradictory.
For Futaba, I haven't read any futaba-centric stuff, but I like it when her struggles are explored as well. Both her social anxiety and her anger with akechi. In quite a few shuake fics I've noticed that her very understandable hatred of Akechi isn't given merit. I think some people have the tendency of writing her like either a) she is willing to treat the whole murdered mom thing as water under the bridge in just two sentences or b) shes treated as a girl in the way of the ship because of her objections. I don't like either of those handlings of her character in regards to Akechi. She deserves to be able to say "no I won't forgive you" and have that be respected, or to have a fully fleshed out reconciliation with Akechi where they work through this shit together.
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mapleleafsunset · 8 months
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ive made a horrible discovery the other day and i need to share it with the world. venn diagram of hollyleaf from warrior cats and goro akechi from persona 5.
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help. i made this discovery weeks ago and i can't stop thinking about it ever since List of other similarities that i've found since creating this diagram - hollyleaf was nearly named crowkit, so nearly had a name related to crow. - both have fathers who are absent, and rejected them when they found out of their existence - both had the intention to reveal the actions of their parents that they / get back at their parents for something (in hollyleafs case breaking the code, in crows case just. everything about shido ever he fucking sucks) - mothers with suicidal ideation. reread sunrise the other day and realised although Leafpool doesn't go through with it she very heavily implies that the best option for her right now is to eat the deathberries that Hollyleaf presents to her, and only doesn't because she knows Hollyleaf would be unhappy knowing she ended her suffering. - Both have a period of timing acting as an unknown shadowy figure. The black mask, and Hollyleaf's return where it's not known who is helping cats around the clan and they are suspicious of her - theyre both gay. in opposite directions but both of these characters like the same gender as them. - the character who they are most popularly shipped with (being a gay ship) has another ship (which is straight) which is considered more canon. Cinder x Holly vs Lion x Cinder, and Shuake vs literally any ship with the protag that could be canon to playthroughs. - they both kill someone who is technically a teacher (headteacher, and ashfur has been a mentor) - the murders they committed were very much framed to look like an accident (hollyleaf attempted to make it look like ashfur had left the clan by pushing his body into the river so it'd never be found) Also in general the whole presumed dead thing happens in very similar ways. Both characters have a mental breakdown over the actions of their parents, not being able to live up to expectations/public image etc, and lash out at the people closest to them. This is then followed by some physical division being placed between them and the protagonists (the big engine room wall door thingy. and the cave in for hollyleaf), which means that they can't confirm if they were dead.
in conclusion these characters are freakishly similar and i dont know what to do with this information.
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corviiids · 4 months
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Have u been asked about shuake for the ship thing yet. Those guys please
@possum-lydia asked: ship ask: akeshu/shuake (whichever you prefer) @bogballad asked: am i too late for the ship ask game has no one requested akeshu?!
ship it / don't ship it
1. What made you ship it?
i love a good mutual obsession. i just fuckin love when two characters are like i don't know if i like you or hate you but i DO know you occupy my brain 32/7 because ithink about you even when im sleeping </3 . i LOOOOOVE when two characters are like we are so diametrically opposed in every direction which means in fact that you are the only person who understands me on this planet and you know me better than anyone else and unfortunately we are connected in a way neither of us can do anything about. and also, gun
2. What are your favorite things about the ship?
im really compelled by both ren and akc being characters who for one reason or another are both generally, like, people whose true selves are not known by the people around them? who then meet each other and are like, oh. you're me. in a way i barely recognise. like ren is quiet and trying to keep his head down and has been repeatedly punished for standing up for his values, he interacts with people based on what he thinks they need to hear / what will make them think of hi mfavourably / etc like some of that is meta that comes from him being the player character but theres also a lot in his visible personality that really points to him being a very carefully masked person. akc is akc is a person and has never been able to show his true self to anyone ever and has in fact forgotten how to do it because he's been playing a part for so long. so these two like, meeting and SEEING each other almost instantly despite being so, so different in so many ways, and then just being so drawn to each other for reasons beyond just what they can do for each other when the majority of their other relationships have had at least a small element of that transactional nature is just. ughrughgd. gshjlg sjglk dgedghdgd. what if you were more to me than what i could do for you for the first time in my life
3. Is there an unpopular opinion you have on your ship?
we don't have time for all that. just view every post ive made for the last eight years
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one-sad-pancake · 8 months
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Aww tysm for tagging me for this thingy (get to know you thing) @mon-sher-liam!!
1)Three Ships
That is sooo hard but probably:
1. Reonagi from blue lock- Reo Mikage is my favorite boy ever
2.Soukoku from bsd- they are like half of the art I have posted lol and they make me feel sometimes (all the time)
3. Shuake from P5- I love them both to the moon and back and Akechi is 'literally me tm' plus being hyperfixated on P5 makes me do well in school and actually finish my assignments soooo
(honorable mentions go to Satosugu, sns, and madohomu who only aren't on the list bc I am not hyperfixated on those shows rn)
2) First ship ever
Probably like Kataang from ATLA and Percabeth from PJO
3)Last song
Strangers by Kenya Grace
4) Last Movie
Dead Poets Society, I started pirating random movies some nights and I had heard practically nothing about it except that it had dark academi vibes so I went into it thinking 'oh this will be fun and help motivate me to do school work' NONE OF YOU WARNED ME!! (I did not look for warnings this is completely on me)
5) Currently reading
Nothing actively but the book I read for 15 minutes every English class because I chose it as my choice book is Death by Black Hole and Other Cosmic Quandaries by Niel DeGrasse Tyson
6) Currently watching
Jjk season 2, it looks sooo good and the new intro is the best thing ever
7) Currently Consuming
Air; I am currently in class :(
8) Currently Craving
Fries actually sound sooo good rn, I have to go to a football game for marching band tonight so I will go to the nearby McDonald's after school
I would love to know more ab some of my other mutuals too, only if you want to tho ^_^ @moonheartsss @kurtiness !!!
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noname-nonartist · 2 months
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Answer this foooor: Satosugu, YuutaMaki, ShuAke anddd any genshin ship of your choosing!
Aye-yoooooo! Hey CC!
Been a while since I’ve done this bingo ship thing! Well, let’s see if I can accurately concave my thoughts lol~
Let’s goooo! (My thoughts on these ships under the cut)
Satosugu
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Okay, sooo like I really do like this ship! I really do!
It’s got all the things that I love within a ship dynamic~
The pinning, the angsty, the tragedy! The gaynesssss!!!
However, I sometimes feel like the jjk fandom tend to mischaracterize both of them too much mannn…
Like. I feel like the fandom sort of sand away their flaws and what makes them so interesting to me. Ya know?
But that’s just me tho, so I could be wrong. My media literacy skills aren’t the best tbh. So who knows? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
YuutaMaki
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To be fair. I think it’s mostly underrated due to Yuit’s not having that much screentime in the main anime series so far. :oc
Especially since NobaMaki is the more popular ship in the fandom iirc.
But yeah! Love them! They be opposites, but also similar in a way. Ya feel me?
And their dynamics and ideals conflicts be compelling to meeee~
ShuAke
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Hoooo boiiiii.
These two… these two mannnn!
The one sided rivalry. The complicated feelings they have towards each other! The angst! The Tragedy!!! The GAY!
Mannn, I love this ship so much man. Like both be two side of the same coinnnn~
Both could have been genuine friends and more, but fate said “no” and- Ahhhhh~
So much feels~
*ahem* I’m very normal about them.
For Genshin Ships thooo.
It’s been a while since I’ve played it. There are some ships that I do like (e.g. Chongyun x Xingqui and Ei x Yae Miko), but tbh.
I’m more interested in the more platonic (maybe queer platonic too) and familiar relationships.
Such as Kaeya and Diluc’s strained relationship. Ei and Scaramouche’s complicated relationship. And Furina and Neuvillette long and yet sort of distant relationship.
Kk! That’s all! Thank you for those who decided to read this!
And thank you CC for the ask! It was fun!!! ^w^/
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reinathevocaloid · 5 months
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An Akeshu/Shuake Playlist!
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After a million years, I have finally made a playlist for this ship! Let me know what y'all think.
Blame It On The Kids by AViVA
Say their names, we won't forget This is not your fight, not your fight You played games, but we can forgive Put down the knife, put down the knife
Break My Heart by Dua Lipa
Center of attention You know you can get whatever you want from me Whenever you want it, baby It's you in my reflection Now I'm afraid of all the things you could do to me
Do I Wanna Know? by Arctic Monkeys
(Do I wanna know?) If this feeling flows both ways? (Sad to see you go) Was sort of hoping that you'd stay (Baby, we both know) That the nights were mainly made for saying things that you can't say tomorrow day
The Beach by The Neighborhood
If I told you that I loved you Tell me, what would you say? If I told you that I hated you Would you go away? Now I need your help with everything that I do I don't want to lie, I've been relying on you
Born to Die by Lana Del Rey
Feet don't fail me now Take me to the finish line Oh, my heart it breaks every step that I take But I'm hoping that the gates, they'll tell me that you're mine Walking through the city streets Is it by mistake or design? I feel so alone on the Friday nights Can you make it feel like home if I tell you you're mine?
Cells by The Servant
The sun goes up and the sun goes down I drag myself into the town All I do I want to do with you Everyday I'm at my desk At my desk, I'm like the rest All I do I want to do with you
Lower One's Eyes (English Cover) by Trickle
Cutting out this doubt, I see now Clear and free, let loose what's killing me Lower your eyes, my love and spite look quite alike
Far Too Young To Die by Panic At The Disco
Well, I never really thought that you'd come tonight While the crown hangs heavy on either side Give me one last kiss while we're far too young to die
Tomorrow by Daughter
By tomorrow I'll be left in the darkness Amongst your cold sheets And your shoes will be gone And your body warmth no longer beside me So don't bring tomorrow 'Cause I already know I'll lose you
Pigeon by Cavetown
Didn't give me time to say goodbye in the way that I wanted to So honey, close your eyes and stay like you're supposed to do Don't know how I'm gonna live without, but I'll stay strong for you
Walk Alone by PVRIS
Do we have bad blood? Do you feel the burn from my touch? Darling, I Always knew that we were doomed I stay cold, feel the weight of the world Now I always, always walk alone without you
Medisina by Zild
Your fragrance Which I’ve searched for all throughout the night I can’t measure The distance between too much and enough I need you Come here already Medisina
This Will Make You Love Again by IAMX
Early thursday mornings wipe away the flies The crossfire fight for action in-between your thighs Every touch is sacred when they leave the room If I have to switch the lights off, I wanna switch them off with you
Howl by Florence & The Machine
If you could only see the beast you've made of me I held it in but now it seems you've set it running free The saints can't help me now, the ropes have been unbound I hunt for you with bloodied feet across the hallowed ground
Hit and Run by Lolo
I was brought up as a southern belle I grew into the queen of hell You were just a little stowaway That stabbed her way to save herself You always liked the taste of blood And I get off when I point the gun It's so good to have someone to be so bad with
Monster from Adventure Time: Distant Lands - Obsidian
I know we'll never grow old together 'Cause you'll never grow old to me You're the pink in my cheeks And I'm scared 'cause that means I'm a little bit soft
Love From The Other Side by Fall Out Boy
Sending my love from the other side of the apocalypse And I just about snapped Don't look back Every lover's got a little dagger in their hand
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latteatnight · 10 months
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i was mostly joking for the sake of making a point.. but actually now im kinda interested- please say more on akeshukita i need to rotate them in my brain like a microwave
NONO anon listen-- I MEAN if you look in my profile or in the akeshukita tag you'll see i drew them a bunch lol but i'll try to pitch this ass short as my brainrot allows me
Akeshukita has good dynamics all around, in every direction the ship works and it works in a different way that complements the other parts of the ship, let's start with the ship that started all this flood of weird anon hate for some reason
Shuake is a very passionate ship, i see them as a strong chemical reaction, very powerful (ejem, maybe very toxic even) but the main thing or like the main problem for shuake is that they lack stability, it's an unstable ship, of course i mean, you kinda just fix it and move on right, but when we analyse it, Akechi leaves, Joker sulks, Akechi could be alive without telling Joker, they hate eachother, they love eachother, in general, unstable. But they're still like so passionate and tragic and the whole aspect of fate it's sooooo good, on the contrary Shukita is almost exactly the opposite, Shukita is a highly domestic ship, in which it's easy to imagine them just living together with a normal, basic, loving life. This can be very good for fluff and comfort, but we can't deny that it lacks a certain spice that you can definitely find in Shuake. So between these two ships, they can complement each other. Yusuke adds some stability to Shuake, Akechi adds some spice to Shukita
Now here's the kicker: Akekita is a criminally underrated amazing ship. In Akekita both Yusuke and Akechi can find something they could never find in a relationship with joker, which is relatability. Yusuke and Goro are so similar that Yusuke himself in game said that if the PTs hadn't gotten to him, he could have easily gone a similar route Goro did. And when you think about early game Yusuke, the one that blackmails them and threatens the Phantom Thieves, he's right. As much as Joker could love either of them, there's just going to be a comfort that they would be able to find in eachother and that they wouldn't be able to find in anyone else, but they still need Joker to act as a bridge, Akechi wouldn't open himself to Yusuke just like that, Akechi is so closed off and the only person he lets in is Joker, and for Yusuke Joker is a regulator, Joker also knows how to manage Yusuke's eccentricities and translate them to the rest of the world. (seee just the entire Yusuke SL which is basically Yusuke misinterpreting things and Joker being there to explain and aid)
i swear i tried to be as brief as i could but i deadass LOVE THIS SHIP A LOT
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andreaphobia · 10 months
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hi, friends! long time no see. obviously i've started reblogging stuff here again (ty to my mutuals who have the most excellent taste in both art and memes), but i think i'd like to start posting here again as well. (and before you ask, yes, these entries will be tagged so they can be filtered xd)
over the last couple years or so i've found that i'm sick to death of social media, and what it's done to fandom and the way people interact with each other. i know that makes me sound like a real fucking fandom boomer but man i'll just fucking own that at this point. i'm sick of clout chasers trying to go viral, of people trying to be content creators, of people who think of fanworks first and foremost as "content" to be monetized and hawked to consumers as opposed to SOMETHING FUN TO BE SHARED WITH FRIENDS. also sick of discourse but well, at least that shit ain't new.
at any rate, here we are! i would love to both reconnect with old fandom friends and also make some new ones! please do not be shy about reaching out, sending asks, or replying on posts if we like the same things and/or you feel the same way about the state of the internet today, 'cuz we'll probably get along. if we used to talk somewhere else but have since lost contact, hit me up for my discord!
little intro for those who don't know me yet...
fandom interests: persona 5, final fantasy xiv, chainsaw man, trigun (+ stampede), katekyo hitman reborn, mob psycho 100
ships: shuake, 8018, erejean (yeah im gonna put this here lmfao)
fic on ao3, art here and (begrudgingly) on instagram
lastly, if any friends/mutuals are considering getting into p5........ i'll buy the game for you. dead fucking serious. please join me in my brain worm hell, i would love to have more friends understand why i can't stop thinking about akechi goro :')
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queen-ofsunflowers · 1 year
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How do u feel about RenxSumire and Renxakechi?
Send me a ship and I'll give you my (brutally) honest opinion on it
Oh, it's interesting that you chose these two, Anon. Very interesting.
ShuSumi
I'll be frank. Whether it be because I knew I was going to be able to on my playthrough for Break Away, I romanced Sumire on my first run of Royal. And I loved it. Their interactions were so damn sweet!!
I love ShuSumi. Not only their interactions together during the romance route, but even before that happens too. They work well together and support each other. There's a good dynamic going there between them. There's more I can talk about if given the right questions, I'm just not sure exactly what to say. To put it simply, it's cute and sweet and I love it.
ShuAke/AkeShu
Much like the previous, I like the dynamic between Akechi and Ren as well. It's one of my top Persona 5 ships for the protag along with ShuSumi. Rivals/Enemies to Lovers is one of my favorite tropes if it's done properly, and AkeShu isn't an exception to that. It's also the fact that Akechi came back in the third semester because of Ren, and that is what Maruki tries to use Akechi as the way to get Ren to agree to not steal his heart. That whole scene was just... oof. Very emotionally charged.
There are some ways that I've seen the ship written that doesn't exactly nail the dynamic or Akechi's character at all correctly, though. That tends to drive me a bit nuts and make me stop reading. He's an asshole, dammit. Let him be an asshole.
The Royal Trio
Okay so... if we're being honest, my favorite combination of these is where Ren gets to hold both of their hands. He is a disaster bisexual who falls for two of his friends, and when they figure it out, they both go for those hands. While Ren's being a disaster over the both of them, I like to think that Akechi and Sumire end up being pretty close friends in the long run. They just happen to share a simp boyfriend.
One of my favorite things about the trio as well is that they're able to see underneath each other's masks. I have a feeling that Akechi already knew that there was something going on while Sumire was pretending to be Kasumi, but he didn't say anything about it. He knew who she was the whole time. And while Ren was affected by Maruki's illusion, there were some moments where he saw Sumire underneath Kasumi's mask and helps her bloom into her true self once the illusion wears off. I think that's beautiful.
Ren knew about Akechi the entire time, and it's through their confidant that Ren can see more of the true him under that false persona he wears. I'm not so sure about Sumire in this case, because I remember her being surprised by Akechi's true self. I do remember her adapting to it rather quickly, though.
And Akechi and Sumire are able to see past the lies and reputation that Ren has to see the real him. Ren's not afraid to show the true him around the two of them, despite how many masks he may wear literally, seeing as he's a wild card.
Basically, their dynamic flows incredibly well when the three of them are together, and in one fic series of mine, I am incredibly tempted to have the Royal Trio be the ship that Ren is involved in. It won't be confirmed in the main game because Ren is a disaster, but in Strikers. Either way, it'll be fun to work with.
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strawberryjamsara · 8 months
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Do you have any madoka magica hot takes/unpopular opinions?
Maybe a few
- I don’t really like Tart Magica. It’s considered one of the best spin offs and I’ll frequently reccomend it to people looking for side material because of this, but to me it felt very boring, almost shounen esque in how generic it was, did not make use of the concepts of PMMM in a historical setting in an interesting way, and none of the characters were interesting to me.
-I think that people (rightfully) defending Homura against people who wish to demonize her (get it? Demonize? Cause she’s a demon.) go into a whole other extreme of dogpiling on anyone who tries to analyze her by including her flaws. Like yeah, she’s not evil in the least. But a 14 year old girl with all the trauma she’s experienced isn’t always going to make perfect choices. Homura was literally dying when she made her choice to pull Madoka down and in doing so, revoked Madoka the choice in what would happen with her life anymore. It’s a messy complicated decision where yes, Madoka certainly wouldn’t have chosen a normal life on her own, and Homura needed to do something but it’s also not a simple black and white. Like I once made a comparison between the bad ending of p5 royal and rebellion because I love both shuake and madohomu and someone really tried to ‘well actually’ me that Homura did what she did out of good intentions so I shouldn’t act like it was wrong of her or like some bad end dude and I was like ‘so… did… the p5 protagonist?’
-I prefer Nagisas magireco backstory to the original solely based on the fact that we actually got to see it. Like, it was cool being able to put an image to the telling even if it was different.
-I don’t like how pretty much every Madoka media makes it so every girl goes after familiars despite the og series and Different Story saying otherwise. It’s oddly sanitized to have everyone in kamihama city be a familiar hunter, despite how it was a pretty significant to the world, (and more importantly to Mamis story) that fighting familiars would make you weaker when it really mattered so there were some teenage girls who came to a, frankly quite understandable decision of ‘I’m sorry, I don’t want to risk my life for this’ and it made the people who did fight familiars have something truly significant about them established when they were willing to take that much more of a risk. When Mami in the different story couldn’t have a partner because none of them fought familiars, and for a short time she had Kyoko, someone who truly understood the value of fighting them, which gets pulled out under her it hurts! And it hurts less when every Madoka media we see afterwards has the characters saying ‘there’s a familiar here, we gotta fight it!’ Maybe they were worried people would find any character who leaves familiars behind would come off as unlikeable, but people adore Kyoko so idk.
-Mami usually gets treated as the ‘cool stoic leader’ which doesn’t sit right with me. The whole point of her character is she isn’t strong as she seems. She joined a literally cult in magireco. She goes into a murder suicide breakdown in the og series. There’s a lot of emphasis placed on the fact she knows being a magical girl isn’t a good deal (she doesn’t know the full extent of how much but she still has lived it for years) and she still urges Madoka and Sayaka into the job because she doesn’t want to be alone. But the reason she goes after familiars is specifically because she doesn’t want another story like hers. It’s tragic. SHES tragic and she doesn’t deserve to be discounted because she doesn’t have a main ship.
-I like Oriko Magicas art. It’s a really cool unique style. You guys are just mean.
-Speaking of Oriko Magica- ORIKO MAGICA IS SO GOOD. I actually like it more than the different story, which is a pretty high compliment.
-One last Oriko Magica point- I need Yuma to be in the main series. I hate knowing she’s stuck with her abusive parents in every other timeline.
-I made a post about this a while ago and more people are acknowledging it, but I’ll say it again: KYOKOS RELIGIOUS TRAUMA DESERVES TO BE ACKNOWLEDGED AS MUCH AS HOMURAS.
-Alina Gray is a sympathetic character. You guys are just fucking weird about her.
-I liked season 2 of the magireco anime. Sure, some points were rushed (Mifune) and the yachi/iro stuff was. Bad. But I loved how it sort of turned it into its own story, and I’m especially glad to have Kuroe exist.
-Also I remember people getting really upset Sayaka was the one to save Mami because she idolized her more than anyone and like. Buddy. That’s the point. She’s grown to understand Mami and is now willing to take on the task of ultimate understanding.
-People who hate kyosaya are really annoying. I spent years having people come onto my posts about kyosaya to be like ‘I personally prefer kyo///mami’ ‘I don’t think they liked each other romantically’ ‘I think it was kinda forced :/‘ and once I was accused of not listening to others opinions when they did this and I told them to fuck off. I don’t really frequently check the kyosaya tag anymore but the reason I stopped was because people kept posting their inane rants about how kyosaya made no sense and kyo//Mami was much better. So now you know why I fucking hate kyo///mami. Anyways if you’re gonna harp on kyosaya for not knowing each other for that long (in the SERIES timeline one out of many) then you gotta acknowledge Kyoko said Mami was like an older sister to her. Sorry not sorry.
-homophobic Hitomi jokes will never be as funny as deeply in the closet Hitomi jokes
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trainerbede · 29 days
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HOPE PLEASE TALK ABOUT P5R I need to know how you feel about akechi at the end yudkdkfk and I'd also just love to hear your thoughts about the game and the characters in general! also, just to make sure, do you know what you need to do to unlock the extra content at the end of the game? otherwise you might miss it.
WAIT WAIT I was answering your other ask and I never saw this one. what. tumblr straight up did not send me an ask notification 😭
CELE AND I DID ACTUALLY FINISH P5R A FEW WEEKS AGO AND I HAVE SO MANY THOUGHTS, we unlocked all the extra content too, so no worries. somehow on a first try we managed to do most things: every Mementos request, all of the confidants with some free time to spare, and about 80% of the compendium. it'll be hard to put all my thoughts in one post but I'll try and just touch on the main parts!
first of all. Akechi. lmao. I definitely went in expecting to like him, since I've had a lot of mutuals who were very big into shuake from the time I've been into saiou and v3 (I guess they're ship-in-laws of a sort). I wasn't disappointed, because I did like Akechi quite a lot by the end, but I was a bit surprised that he didn't quite give me brainworms the way I expected him to.
if I had to give a character ranking, I think Sumire would be my top fave, followed by Maruki, and then Yusuke. Akechi probably comes right after him, and then I have a harder time ranking the rest (it's probably either Ann or Haru though).
I'm really, really glad we played Royal bc I cannot imagine only playing the original and being satisfied with that. especially when the Shido parts were so frustrating and had some of the weaker writing compared to the rest of the game. the 3rd semester was just such a better way to wrap things up and did a world of good for Akechi's character and fleshing him out a bit.
I really do find the relationship between Akechi and the MC so interesting. like, while I don't think Akechi will ever be quite as high up on my list of characters the way someone like Ouma is, I do think he shines best when it's as a foil for the protagonist. all of that resentment and feeling like things could have been so different if only he'd had the same opportunities or friendships, the whole "two sides of the same coin" thing, I LOVE that sort of thing in my ships. I also really wound up attached to the idea of the royal trio as an ot3 where Sumire and Akechi both just share the MC most of the time, lmao.
everything with the 3rd semester bad ending... I love it so much, those kind of "ideal worlds where something is actually very off and unsatisfying" is right up my alley. I kind of wish the game had gone even further with making the rest of the phantom thieves resist leaving Maruki's world and even getting mad at being told to doubt their own happiness, which was something they apparently touched on in some of the discarded voice files, but then they sadly cut them out and everyone came around pretty easily :(
the main reason I put Yusuke in my top 3 earlier I think is bc he actually gave me more of what I was initially looking for in Akechi's relationship with Shido, but with Madarame instead. I really was expecting the game to touch a lot more on Shido manipulating Akechi or essentially forcing him to become an assassin, you know, really focusing on the whole "kids trapped in their role in society by rotten adults" theme that is so crucial in the game, but there really wasn't... much of that? Shido didn't even know Akechi was his son (other than maybe some suspicions according to his cognitive self, but those didn't ever amount to anything so it's kind of the same) so he barely ever interacted with him outside of an employer-employee context. and Akechi was the one to actually approach him with the idea of murdering people in the Metaverse, so it's like... fkskjdjs agh, everything with Shido just really does frustrate me, I feel like he's got such weak writing but he's also impossible to ignore bc he's such an important part of the game.
meanwhile Yusuke and Madarame's relationship was such a more believably complex picture of abuse and manipulation (it reminded me a lot of Bede and Rose from swsh, lmao). I was actually really shocked at how well everything about the Madarame arc aged; usually Persona games have a few parts of them that don't age well at all, but it was totally the opposite here.
I had kind of gone through the early parts of the game back when it first came out without finishing the whole thing, but I remember thinking at the time that the whole Madarame plagiarism thing felt heavy-handed and too on-the-nose. now, living in an era where topics like art theft and plagiarism and art as nothing more than a soulless means of spitting out money is more relevant than it was 7 years ago... yeah, the Madarame arc just felt surprisingly relevant overall, and Yusuke's conflicting feelings of love and obligation vs. his growing awareness that he's being taken advantage of and seen as a tool was just the icing on top. also his autistic swag. I love him.
as for Sumire and Maruki—the game is so much better for them being in it. Sumire has one of the strongest arcs in any of the 3 "modern" Persona games, not just in 5. I'm usually a firm advocate for "girl they added in the remake game" supremacy (Marie p4g got done so dirty by the fandom and I'll never forgive people, she's a good character), so I was so, so happy that Sumire had such an interesting backstory and complicated relationship with her sister. her identity issues, her struggle with self-confidence, the way she can empathize the best with Maruki's view of the world bc she has also wished to just bury her head in the sand and run away. I love her.
meanwhile Maruki truly is the game's saving grace as an antagonist. Shido was god-awful and Yaldabaoth was, hmm... fine but not quite as interesting or compelling as either Nyx Avatar or (redacted p4 antagonist names bc I don't know if you've played p4 yet), but Maruki wipes the floor with all the other p5 antagonists. his tragic motivations, his fucked-up "I know best" attitude that dismisses human free will and autonomy, I love it. I think something about Maruki altered me and Cele's brains forever, lmao. also the choice to have him as yet another foil to the MC, from their designs (glasses, messy hair, sort of slouched/nondescript posture) to their inability to leave someone in trouble alone without helping them... it's just so interesting. I love you Takuto Maruki you messed-up man with a savior complex.
ANYWAY these were most of my thoughts 😭 I could go on and on even more but I've already rambled a lot! I'm still so mad Tumblr never sent me the message notif for this, I just looked back at my inbox after answering the other one and I was like. WHAT. at some point I really should talk about all my thoughts on the other main phantom thieves too but there are so many of them and I've already written so much fksjsksjsj
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