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will-pilled · 7 months
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If you don't take the impacts of people like Jordan Peterson or Ben Sharpiro seriously and just brush them off as (the) idiots (they are)
Long read about Jordan Peterson and how his meatriders behave.
You should still take them seriously as a threat.
A peer of mine was going on about how women are chosing the wrong path. I asked him what path he thought was the wrong one, knowing it'd be your standard woman hating nonsense. Which it was. He said that women not getting married or having children was "the wrong path."
I told him that generally childless single women are the happier demographic. He laughed and asked for a source. I didn't have an answer because MULTIPLE sources say that. Literally all you have to do is like.. Search it up and most of the sources say this.
I asked him HIS source, to which he said Jordan Peterson.
I told him it was foolish to take the word of just one man. A man who almost had his license revoked nonetheless, but I did not bring up that part.
He said that just because I didn't like him for a reason apparently I didn't understand (???) that doesn't discredit him.
So not only are Peterson fanboys taking everything he says seriously, but they don't even GOOGLE what he says. This guy is literally obsessed with JP and takes him very seriously. He also fits the "troubled young man without a father" mold too.
JP is so fucking evil praying on vulnerable young men like this, and his peers do it too.
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nikkisticki · 8 months
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For today's dose of Jordan Peterson cultists, here's one doing something called "Baking", where you take something your heroic idol prophet said and justify it via gibberish logic
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you would think "oh this must be in response to some complex statement" and you'd be WRONG
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It can't be understated the level of psychological turmoil Peterson inflicts on the part of his base that came for mental health support and got thrown into a big ball pit full of Nazi's who all support Peterson and Peterson is actively fostering with glee.
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thesoftboiledegg · 1 month
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Part of that process has included meeting with Zack Snyder at the Justice League director's request, Harmon said in a recent Hollywood Reporter interview. "Not him saying, 'I get to do it,' or anything like that," Harmon explained. "He was totally a super fan and was just like, 'Is there any way I can help get that movie started by using my Snyder-ness?'"
Well, I guess that explains Rick and Morty's background appearance in Justice League.
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alilaro · 2 months
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people joke about the Hat Man like a cryptid, but from experience if you pop 20 of those benzos your ass is gonna have to deal with this
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minetteskvareninova · 2 years
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I can’t believe people here be like “but Disney villains, supervillains, James Bond villains etc. aren’t realistic” when Jordan Peterson exists. Of course, Jordan Peterson has probably never killed anyone, except maybe people he bored to death and those unfortunate souls that fried their brains trying to actually understand his word salad. But you can bet he would if he didn’t make a living out of giving his stupid lectures.
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king-wilhelm · 2 years
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Oh u think you know pain? Yeah well I had to listen to two cishet men talk about how amazing jordan peterson is for a full hour. You don't know pain.
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nando161mando · 8 months
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'It’s really comical how much of a textbook case Peterson is. First, just look at his clothes. He constantly wears these outrageous suits. As Jason Linkins quipped on Twitter, “somewhere a commedia dell’arte troupe is missing its Harlequino.” The charlatans who hawked their dubious medicines in the town squares of early modern Europe dressed up precisely in exotic costume to attract attention. They often even employed troupes of clowns to create a spectacle. As [Grete de] Francesco writes in her commentary on a 17th century engraving of a quacksalver, “Here a charlatan is standing quite alone, dispensing with the usual troupe of assistance and relying upon his own personal grace…He is dressed as a harlequin…”'
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darkarfs · 1 year
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It's not so much that I assumed Trent? was a good person, I just guessed and hoped he wasn't a goddamned idiot.
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some-pers0n · 10 days
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My favourite thing ever about LITWTC is that it sounds completely and utterly bizarre to anyone who doesn't listen to it. What do you mean that music artist I heard on TikTok has a podcast where he and his friend talk about the apocalypse.
Anyways some of my favourite bits are
Tommy Lasagna, a fully Korean man with a thick Brooklyn accent, will own a fast food combination auto repair shop, wherein he'll mix up your order and put burgers on your tires and serve you a fistful of wires instead of fires
Will getting harassed by a ghost prostitute named Mama Doo-Wop for like seven minutes
Chris and Will stopping their car (they were driving around in this episode) and laughing at a decaying house for like five minutes
Will larping as Tom Waits for an entire episode
Leopard Planet is the only band still left in the apocalypse, wherein the lead singer and rhythm guitarist and Rock God, Zap Gorgeous, will have leopard print clothes as they play on top of a leopard pyramid
Will and Chris try getting their Wendy's order and it takes 20 minutes because the Doordash driver kept circling a graveyard
Will will save Jordan Peterson from the manosphere grease pit (where any manosphere person is greased up and tossed into a pit where they have to kill everyone else to survive) and turns him into a parrot-like pet that he listens to for hours on end
Chris Dunne Won't Go To Therapy I/II
ROLL!! THEM!! BONES!!
Bobby Sugarbones dying because the recording program closed and they didn't notice because the laptop had a picture of Chester Cheetah inflation art covering it (this was because Chris was trying to get Will into the kink so they could fuck the podcast, which is a gutter clown with that kink)
"Yes! And–"
Chris and Will spending an entire episode parked in front of a school because Will's car broke down and they were waiting for the repair guy (yes there are two episodes where they're in a car)
The Bug Woman
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sophie-frm-mars · 1 year
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Ben Shapiro enters his willy wonka era
Disclaimer: Ben Shapiro is a morally bankrupt shitheel who hates women and he doesn't deserve the oxygen of publicity, but this fucking thing has given me brainworms and I need to smoke them out.
Okay so 2023 is doing something AMAZING to the brains of celebrity reactionaries. First Jordan Peterson wore his "twitter suit" with a matching tie that has "little elon musk heads" on it, most aptly described by Sam Seder as JBP entering his "willy wonka era"
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But this morning I wake up to see that everyone's favourite facts and logic boy Ben Shapiro has created this fucking monstrosity. This rube goldberg machine of political "science". This mousetrap-ass load of bullshit. I have to conclude that Shapiro is also entering his Wonka era.
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So what the fuck is going on here?
Benny has concocted from his powerful mind a formula for determining "governmental legitimacy" which is just such a beautiful artefact of who Ben Shapiro, as opposed to his colleagues, truly is. Clearly the dream of the Intellectual Dark Web never went away, and while others realise that their role within the fetid reanimated corpse of modern conservatism is to troll and clown their way through towards their political vision, Shapiro thinks he's doing real serious business here.
So we're going to use maths to acertain a quality that is by definition subjective. Legitimacy is going to be nil if you consider a government ideologically abhorrent, and if you're a party zealot who believes with total burning passion in the project of the current administration, legitimacy is going to be absolute. That's just fantastic. I love maths. I did my maths A Level two years early. I can't wait to dive in here and learn some maths with Mr. Ben Ass P-word
So the factors in the equation: he uses social solidarity (S), the responsiveness of the government to citizens (R), the "avoidability" of the government (A) which isn't as silly as it sounds to begin with, the efficacy of the government or its ability to implement (I) what it means to do, and all of that is divided by the violation of people's rights (V), the strictness of the laws or regulations (R') and lastly the force used to maintain those laws, or as Shapiro has it the aggressiveness (A').
I'm gonna work backwards through these factors because I think we'll have more fun that way, but I wanna say first that although Shapiro's purpose in producing this abomination is in trying to make it look like you can scientifically determine the legitimacy of a government in a numerical figure, sometimes equations in science are produced not to use exact units or even perform the calculation in them but to get us to agree on the factors that are involved in constituting something like "governmental legitimacy". I wanna say secondly that only a conservative hyperfreak of Ben's calibur could think "governmental legitimacy" is really the Big Political Question of our current moment. Thirdly I'll just say that if you were going to try to make this calculation, the fact that no part of this equation measures how closely the ideology of the government matches the desires of the population (I know, how would you even) or how legally the government's mandate was obtained (again, a nightmare) is just, basically pretty funny.
Okay
Aggressiveness (A') is a reasonably quantifiable factor. We could measure the police budgets per capita that are put towards militarisation, the number of incidents of police brutality supposing we could get non-state reporting on that, the number of police, perhaps a weighted scale of different policing tactics. However, there's already a problem observable in the real world: policing is not uniform. Police brutality, more militaristic policing, more extreme tactics and even vitally where the police are deployed is highly racialised, differentiated by class strata, and as is readily apparent in the imperial core right now, even partisan as police are far more likely to consider leftist protest or disruption to be a serious threat than its right wing counterparts.
Regulations (R') seems theoretically quantifiable, and there are others who have tried to quantify how strict and authoritarian the policy environment created by a government is. We're gonna keep coming back to this same problem though: legitimacy is subjective and if an entire population were absolutely A-OK with being surveilled, jailed, brutalised, taxed, banned, prohibited, spanked and spit on by the state, and they'd voted the government in with a landslide majority to try and do it to em as nasty as possible, many would argue that would be a legitimate government.
Violation (V) of people's rights is again theoretically quantifiable, but which rights, and whose? because Ben Shapiro believes that abortion is murder, and believes that someone's rights are being violated whenever an abortion is performed. Not only that but he has also argued in several places that the pregnant person is being let down by society when they get an abortion because they deserve instead to have support to have and raise the baby, or be able to put the baby up for adoption confident in the quality of life that the child will receive. If you think abortion is murder, the "violation of rights" alone will make the denominator of this fraction absolutely enormous and, unsurprisingly, make the legitimacy of any government that allows abortion to be practiced very very low. Would you look at that, it's like legitimacy is subjective or something waow
Implementation (I) of the things that the government intends to do is actually pretty quantifiable but we need a coefficient attached to implementation here, right? One that can swing positive or negative, that tells us how well the government aligns with the will of the people, because a very effective government that does the opposite of what the people want is more illegitimate than an ineffective government that intends to do what the people want. Maybe that's in Shapiro's definition to begin with, an implementation of what the people want.
Avoidability (A) is actually a very fun and interesting metric for citizen consent. Can people leave if they don't like what the government is doing. I don't actually disagree with the idea of this factor relating to legitimacy at all, and I think it's a fairly decent point, although I'd prefer to see it factor in the possibility of living outside of government jurisdiction within the territory of the state, as well as weighing up the ability to engage partially with state jurisdiction, which would be a much more robust way of understanding "avoidability". Shapiro just defines it like "if people don't like the government they should move", and what can I say but
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In all seriousness that opens up a whole second world of "avoidability" right? Like what resources do people have, how mobile are they, can they bring their belongings, resources, family with them if they decide to exercise this right to exit? We can't simply measure the number of emigrants from a country to see how many people "didn't consent" to the government there, because there are all sorts of reasons you wouldn't want to simply move country if you didn't agree with the legitimacy of the government. I'm a trans woman living in Britain and I have to constantly assess and reassess the balance between how much government policy could ruin my life and the enormous weight, cost, effort, alienation, distress and time lost if I had to move country.
Responsiveness(R) is pretty funny to me, because like... responding to what? If I write my local MP to ask for gay space communism and they throw my letter in the bin, they aren't at all responsive to my needs, but like, should they be? Or rather, should they be expected to be? Moreover if they reply and explain that Rishi Sunak isn't amenable to sucking and fucking aboard the starship enterprise, or reply and lie to me and say that it's totally gonna happen if I just vote Labour at the next election, is that responsiveness? If I'm on a waiting list for healthcare, and I write an official complaint to the government body responsible, and they write back telling me I'm not going to get treatment any sooner but they're working on it, is that responsiveness? Okay, supposing responsiveness is quantified in a scale of how quickly and effectively a government directly implements what the citizens ask it to do, we again arrive at the questions of "which" and "who". If our government has a massive majority support and most people are really happy with what they're doing, then the vast majority of complaints and expressed desires from the population will come from the political minority. If the government responds to those requests and implements the will of the political minority, they'll probably become immediately hysterically unpopular, but check this out: then the political majority who previously supported them will start to complain, and then, being a hyper-responsive government, they'll implement very effectively what they've been asked to do, and then the original complaints will return, which they'll respond to, and on and on and on. So the most responsive government imaginable is actually a government that basically everyone would consider illegitimate because they'd appear to be spineless and fickle. This is such a metric I'm actually laughing out loud writing this
Social solidarity (S) is so fascinating. So fascinating. Shapiro explains that a measure of lack of social solidarity is that people will vote for their candidate essentially just to offend their neighbour. I'm not gonna even really engage with this argument pretty much constructed to pander to "Biden stole the election" conspiracy theorists, but rather I wanna talk about how interesting it is that a far-right pundit, religious fanatic and some-time conservative pseudo-libertarian like Ben would use "solidarity" as a positive factor in constructing his model of legitimacy. Again, if we imagine extremes of this, it doesn't work in his calculation at all. A population with extreme social solidarity may well support an authoritarian regime that is constantly refining the vile machinery of necropolitics, or it may be that the population has solidarity because they have raised group consciousness in response to their oppression by the government, so two easy conceptions of social solidarity instantly give opposite outcomes in terms of governmental legitimacy.
What's really interesting to me is how this social solidarity metric fits into the way that people like Ben construct racist propaganda about China. The underpinning myth of China in American conservative propaganda is as a place where the population is in total agreement about the legitimacy and mandate of the ruling party (although in reality this is obviously far from true) and that basis of "mob rule" allows the CCP to persecute political minorities without repercussions. If the picture that American conservatives paint of China were true, the CCP would be an extremely legitimate government at least on this one metric. What Ben has accidentally stumbled upon with his social solidarity metric is a conception of authentic democracy which is, far beyond his ability to assess and analyse, the perfect opposite of his entire political project. If people get together to discuss their problems, to raise group consciousness, to debate and discuss and agree on how they would like the world they live in to function, and then form a government based on their social solidarity, or form no government based on their solidarity and live through direct democracy for that matter, then Ben is saying, that would be a very legitimate political project. Workers of the world unite, says comrade Shapiro
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superchat · 5 months
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What is it that seperates everyone in my family and me. why am i the only one who thinks about how AI is abused and exploits people, why am i the only one who thinks thats an actual problem? meanwhile theyre all like "so cool! the future is awesome!"
Why am i the one who thinks elons an absolute clown. an impulsive manchild who got rich cuz he had the money and knew how to exploit the capital system. but they think hes Le Epic Tony Stark
woke, gender, "cancel", vaxx truth, The Left, STEM vs liberal arts, joe rogan, jordan peterson, ben shapiro, antifa, "all lives matter!", brainwashing the youth, snowflakes, offended, triggered
Its so fucking insane
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politijohn · 1 year
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So my sister recently told me that she's a Jordan Peterson fan. She's not a right-winger by any stretch, so I was a bit surprised. How should I go about explaining to her that he's a clown?
Gotta be honest, I don’t know enough about Jordan Peterson to weigh in. If someone else has advice, share below!
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taragrimface · 7 months
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The three dimensions of Mr. Wogglebug may be dubbed as "the gentleman" and "the scholar" and "the clown." This makes a lot of sense for good reasons. To paraphrase a statement by his original creator in The Scarecrow of Oz: "Mr. Wogglebug had the body of an enormous bug and wore neat fitting garments. The Wogglebug was an interesting talker and had very polite manners. But had a face so comical it made one smile to look upon it." You can easily see how these attributes describe the three characteristics of the scholar, gentleman, and the clown. This is actually a very well loved and popular character, especially in this day and age, as well as from when the Oz books were new and Baum was alive. For instance, Charlie Chaplin, who put much of his life, his beliefs, and his own personality into his roles in his movies, was like this on and off screen in his own right. This shone through the Little Tramp and his other characters after he turned to sound. Other actors with character styles like this have been found in Sir Richard Attenborough (who directed the bio-pic of Charlie Chaplin, who was his inspiration)and his portrayal of Kris Kringle (a.k.a. Santa Claus) in the 1994 version of Miracle on 34th Street. As well as the great Robin Williams who portrayed all three of these characterizations and more in some way or another throughout his happy and successful career. While it is true that not all characters who hold these three attributes (individually or all three) are actually good or lovable characters we'd want our children to look to, there are still plenty who are and Mr. Wogglebug is certainly one of them. Mr. Wogglebug is always the perfect gentleman. And as such he is courteous and kind and cares about the well-being of others. Mr. Wogglebug is also like a clown.
-Jordan Peterson
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Is Marxism Gnostic? Responding To Jordan Peterson with Miguel Conner
Aeon Byte Gnostic Radio's Miguel Conner returns to the show this week for an in-depth unpacking of claims made by Jordan Peterson, James Lindsay and others in the Online Right that Marxism is actually Gnosticism.
We look at
👉 The origins of these claims.
👉 Exactly WHERE and HOW they are wrong.
👉 The origins of Gnosticism.
👉 The 'true' origins of 'woke' thought.
We also explore some possible points of consent with the analysis Jordan Peterson presents regarding Lucifer and the archetypal significance of clowns, jesters and evil.
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geekcavepodcast · 2 months
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The Folio Society to Publish "DC: Batman" Celebrating Batman's 85th Anniversary
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The Folio Society and DC Comics are partnering on DC: Batman, a hardback book celebrating the Dark Knight's 85th anniversary. The 320-page deluxe compilation will include 12 seminal comics all selected and introduced by DC President, Publisher, and Editor-in-Chief Jennette Kahn. DC: Batman will also come with stand-alone replica copy of Batman #1, "scanned in its entirety from an original 1940 copy...which includes the original back-up strips and vintage ads and introduces DC’s Clown Prince of Crime, aka The Joker, and The Cat, who would come to be known as Catwoman." (DC Comics)
Per DC Comics, DC: Batman includes:
"Facsimile: Batman #1 (Spring 1940) Writer: Bill Finger Cover artists: Bob Kane, Jerry Robinson Artists: Bob Kane, Sheldon Moldoff Editor: Whitney Ellsworth
The Bat-Man Detective Comics #27 (May 1939)  Writer: Bill Finger Artist: Bob Kane Editor: Vincent Sullivan
Robin—the Boy Wonder Detective Comics #38 (April 1940) Writer: Bill Finger Artists: Bob Kane, Jerry Robinson Editor: Whitney Ellsworth
The Crimes of Two-Face! Detective Comics #66 (August 1942)  Writer: Bill Finger Artists: Jerry Robinson, George Roussos Letterers: Ira Schnapp Editor: Whitney Ellsworth
Batman and Green Arrow: The Senator’s Been Shot! The Brave and the Bold #85 (September 1969) Writer: Bob Haney Cover artist: Neal Adams Penciler: Neal Adams Inker: Dick Giordano Letterer: Ben Oda Editor: Murray Boltinoff
Daughter of the Demon Batman #232 (June 1971) Writer: Dennis O'Neil Cover artist: Neal Adams Penciler: Neal Adams Inker: Dick Giordano Letterer: John Costanza Editor: Julius Schwartz
The Dead Yet Live Detective Comics #471 (August 1977) Writer: Steve Englehart Cover artists: Marshall Rogers, Terry Austin, Tatjana Wood, Gaspar Saladino Penciler: Marshall Rogers Inker: Terry Austin Colorists: Marshall Rogers Letterer: John Workman Editors: Julius Schwartz, E. Nelson Bridwell
The Dark Knight Returns Batman: The Dark Knight Returns #1 (June 1986) Writer: Frank Miller Cover artists: Frank Miller, Lynn Varley Penciler: Frank Miller Inker: Klaus Janson Colorist: Lynn Varley Letterer: John Costanza Editors: Dick Giordano, Dennis O'Neil
Batman: Year One—Chapter One: Who I Am—How I Come to Be Batman #404 (February 1987) Writer: Frank Miller Artist: Dave Mazzucchelli Colorist: Richmond Lewis Letterer: Todd Klein Editor: Dennis O'Neil
Batman: The Killing Joke (July 1988) Writer: Alan Moore Cover artists: Brian Bolland, Richard Bruning Artist: Brian Bolland Colorist: John Higgins Letterer: Richard Starkings Editors: Dennis O'Neil, Dan Raspler
The Last Arkham (Part One) Batman: Shadow of the Bat #1 (June 1992) Writer: Alan Grant Cover artist: Brian Stelfreeze Penciler: Norm Breyfogle Inker: Norm Breyfogle Colorist: Adrienne Roy Letterer: Todd Klein Editors: Scott Peterson, Dennis O'Neil
Knightfall Part 1: Crossed Eyes and Dotty Teas Batman #492 (May 1993) Writer: Doug Moench Cover artists: Kelley Jones, Bob LeRose Penciler: Norm Breyfogle Inker: Norm Breyfogle Colorist Adrienne Roy Letterer: Richard Starkings Editors: Scott Peterson, Jordan B. Gorfinkel, Dennis O'Neil"
DC: Batman is available at The Folio Society.
(Image via DC Comics)
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caffeineandsociety · 1 year
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The reason to point out and mock the right's hypocrisy isn't to convince the pundit you're dragging, or their hardcore fans, or anyone else who's in really deep. The pundit likely knows they're full of it and just saying whatever will rile up their base, and the die-hard fan probably needs a harder-hitting wake-up call to start the deradicalization process - the odds that having some hypocrisy pointed out in a judgmental, mocking context will convince them of anything are extremely slim.
The reason to point out and mock the right's hypocrisy is to PREVENT people from getting radicalized.
It's for the fence-sitters, people who don't know about a controversial subject and are poisoned by American false neutrality into thinking "getting all the facts" means lending equal weight to the official positions of multiple coalitions of doctors and nurses, and the claims of some snake oil salesman on Facebook. The ones who were taught by shitty conservative public school teachers that "fairness" means that if one person reports that they're in the middle of a thunderstorm, and the other reports that it's sunny, you should report both their sides as equally plausible rather than look out the window. The "centrists", the people who aren't willful bigots but fall for bigoted bullshit once it's hidden under a single level of obfuscating the target, like a dog gleefully eating a pill wrapped in cheese. Mocking a right-wing pundit is essentially a performance for them.
The purpose isn't just to get the logic through to them, either, but it DOES involve a bit of appealing to emotion as well - just because that's a foul in a formal debate doesn't mean it's not absolutely necessary for outreach, because EVERY grifter, from the most benign greedy scammer to the most vile fascist profiteer on the planet, is not above using emotion to manipulate their would-be buyers. You want to use true logic - after all, the right openly admits that one of their biggest problems is that the left tells the fucking truth - but the point is that you're pointing to these grifters and saying "look at this fucking clown. Don't be that guy, he has rocks for brains! Do you really want to follow this guy, do you really want to join the army of pathetic assclowns screaming crying pissing their pants about seeing glitter and rainbows from time to time?? Are you really that much of a coward?"
You're not gonna deradicalize Jordan Peterson or one of those dudes who jacks off to him every night (but tooootally not in a gay way of course) by mocking his hypocrisy and telling him to go glue himself in his office and blame it on The Woke Mob again, but you might just stop your wishy-washy centrist cousin from thinking he has anything valuable to say.
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