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ladystoneboobs · 3 months
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the younger starklings about robb (robb the strong and brave big brother, the perfect heir, the fierce and unbeatable young wolf):
arya
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sansa
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meanwhile, actual robb (robb the lord and then robb the kitn):
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before arya ever promised to be strong by using robb as her benchmark, the definition of stark strength, ned had to remind robb to be strong as the ruling stark in winterfell. (strong for bran and rickon, the brothers he thought he failed by sending their would-be killer away, leading to his great moment of weakness in jeyne westerling's bed.) as his siblings' faith in his ultimate triumph held strong, even after the loss of the north, robb himself was struggling with despair.
as grenn once told sam, maybe everyone is just pretending to be brave, maybe that's how people become brave. robb was faking it to make it too, imitating his father's lordly attitude as bran later tried to imitate robb's. as his younger siblings remembered him as their shining example, robb was trying to live up to his father's example. not the ned who'd been in his circumstances, a teenager unexpectedly turned into a lord and fighting a war to save his family. no, ofc, he never knew that young ned. the ned he knew as his father, the standard to measure himself against, was an adult man in his mid-30s who'd ruled the north for ~15 years. but was that standard for a 15/16yo any more fair and valid an expectation than 8/9yo bran believing he was almost a man grown and holding himself to the standard of 15/16yo robb as robb's heir?
and the only person left close enough to see robb as the boy he still was died with him.
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chippedcupwrites · 9 days
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Sansa Stark │Character Creation (in/sp)
HERE are screenshots of the whole set, if you wish to read the little details.
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daenysthedreamer101 · 3 months
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Lady Sansa Stark
"I did what I had to survive, my lady. But I am a Stark. I will always be a Stark." (GOT 6x07)
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catofoldstones · 8 months
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Saying that Sansa’s rest of the plot is in the Vale is like saying Arya’s rest of of the plot is in Braavos. Hope that helps.
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willowycreature · 9 months
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me: stripping sansa of her kindness that is a part of her to make her cynical and think that everything she loved as a child is stupid was a terrible decision
someone: exactly she would've been best friends with-
me: this is where i leave
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fromtheseventhhell · 7 months
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That brought a bitter twist to Ned's mouth. "Brandon. Yes. Brandon would know what to do. He always did. It was all meant for Brandon. You, Winterfell, everything. He was born to be a King's Hand and a father to queens. I never asked for this cup to pass to me." (Catelyn II, AGOT)
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"You," Ned said, kissing her lightly on the brow, "will marry a king and rule his castle, and your sons will be knights and princes and lords and, yes, perhaps even a High Septon." Arya screwed up her face. "No," she said, "that's Sansa." (Eddard V, AGOT)
The parallel between Ned and Arya being positioned as the unlikelier, "lesser" younger siblings with older siblings being expected to fulfill a certain role is interesting. Especially considering it is Ned who ends up ruling, and Arya's current importance to the Northern plot + the plentiful leadership foreshadowing in her arc.
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elegantwoes · 1 year
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Purist book fans never fail to show their disturbing misogyny when it concerns Sansa Stark. They fetishize her personality and the trauma she went through way too much. Yes Sansa is kind. Yes Sansa is gentle of heart. However there’s limit to her kindness and gentleness. She doesn’t show them indiscriminately, especially not to those who have abused her. She has snarky sass and suppressed rage that from time to time makes an appearance. Sansa isn’t a pretty doll that will smile and please your fave. She was in conflict with your fan favorites before and will do it again in the future.
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nucuk · 1 month
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two renaissassed ladies 🐺🎀🍋
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Sansa & Lady | Game Of Thrones
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artist-ellen · 2 years
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Sansa Stark, Lady of Winterfell.
For this look I went all in on making things as Stark as possible. A part of this of course is pageantry, subtle messages that order is reestablished, that the Starks have returned, the True Wardens of the North will look after everyone, etc. Lots of subliminal messaging going on. Greys, silvers, wolf motifs, hair taping, winter fabrics, the whole nine. It's also probably very reassuring to Sansa that she has the freedom to dress this way and honor the North at all.
Anyway, she takes to being Lady Stark like a duck to water and the people of Winterfell (and the North in general) adore her for it.
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all-things-got · 6 months
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atherpurest · 1 year
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“Arya Underfoot, he almost said. Arya Horseface. Robb's younger sister, brown-haired, long-faced, skinny as a stick. Always dirty.”
Arya Stark of Winterfell.
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asoiafreadthru · 2 months
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A Game of Thrones, Eddard III
When it was over, he said, “Choose four men and have them take the body north. Bury her at Winterfell.”
“All that way?” Jory said, astonished.
“All that way,” Ned affirmed. “The Lannister woman shall never have this skin.”
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catofoldstones · 5 months
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I'm sorry but the post breaking down the Arya-Jeyne-North angle makes no sense. The Boltons are claiming Winterfell through the marriage to Arya aka Jeyne who is considered the Lady of Winterfell by her own birthright. They're not trying to claim Winterfell was given to them by the crown or no longer belongs to the Starks. Ramsay didn't even want to get married at Winterfell when Roose made the call to move the wedding location from Barrowton. He's claiming himself Lord of Winterfell the same way he claimed himself Lord of Hornwood through the forced marriage to Lady Donella and even Lady Dustin says him keeping his title is dependent on how he treats his wife. He needs the marriages to claim those titles, not the other way around. At no point in Dance is Jeyne ever considered Lady Bolton, she's always called Lady Arya. That's like arguing Sansa's marriage to Tyrion means the claim to Winterfell comes from Tyrion, not Sansa.
You can argue that Jeyne and Ramsay's marriage is invalid because both got married under false pretenses as the bride was pretending to be someone else, but that wouldn't negate Arya's position as Lady of Winterfell if she intends to claim the title. I think it's intentional on GRRM's part to make the question of Stark succession jumbled enough that all five of them can technically stake their claim whether through birth order, sex, legitimized degrees, might makes right and the power behind them, or simply having the claim bestowed on them before the others make themselves known.
Buckle up, it’s a long one.
I am going to go on a limb here and presume you didn’t read the whole post, did you? I literally said it a million and one times that Arya’s claim comes from her being a Stark. That is the entire point of my post.
The north believing that Jeyne is Arya (“Lady Aryq”) doesn’t make Arya Jeyne or the Lady of Winterfell by proxy. Y’all are literally running around in circles here, nothing makes sense. At one point you are claiming that Ramsay is claiming his authority through Arya because she already is the lady of Winterfell and on the other hand you’re saying that bringing Arya to the north and marrying her to Ramsay made her the Lady of Winterfell in the eyes of the Northern Lords and the readers. Make it make sense. Anyway, Lady is a title granted to all noblewomen of higher houses, a lot like how Miss/Mister worked in the 1800s to now (sort of). Arya would be Lady Arya of House Stark regardless of whether she is the heir to House Stark or not. The Lady Stark or the Lady of Winterfell will only be Catelyn Stark as it is a social position granted to the wife of the head of the House. If she had a sister-in-law, say Benjen didn’t go to the nights watch and got married, that woman would also be Lady Stark (or Lady her-maiden-name) but she would not be the Lady of Winterfell, are you getting me? The people here could be referring to Arya as ‘Lady’ because she’s a highborn girl and comes from the most noble house of the north. That makes her one of the people with the highest social standing; which I feel warrants the use of the word Lady, not to be confused with the feudal position.
I know you’re trying to play the whole Arya is the last of Starks and that is why she is the Lady of Winterfell and that is from where the Boltons are legitimising their claim to the north. But Arya is not the last of the Starks. She still has an older sister (that they know is alive when they decided on the marriage) and two brothers whose claim is superior to hers no matter how you argue. On top of that, the girl that is actually married to Ramsay is not even Arya. Arya is in Braavos training with the faceless men. Regardless, never once throughout the books, is she called the head of house stark or lady stark or the lady of Winterfell and have that be given as a reason as to why the North should fight for her. She is ‘Ned’s precious little girl’ and that is enough. Literally pulled Lady of Winterfell out of your ass.
“They’re not trying to claim the north was given to them by the crown or no longer belonging to the starks” is an insane statement to make when the royal decree is literally the only leg they have to stand on, and that they are now the unequivocal lords of Winterfell is literally exactly what they’re claiming. Bruh. Bobby B winning the crown by conquest is still valid but the Baratheons being distant cousins of the Targaryens helped. The Boltons need Stark blood to strengthen their claim not create a claim from a non-existent one, which is why they married “Arya” and which is also exactly why just any girl, and not Arya herself, worked. It is all for show.
Okay, scratch all of that. Let me make it simple. The Bolton’s claim to the north literally comes from being granted the north by royal decree. Marrying “Arya Stark” just gives the loyal northerners less reason to fight against Bolton rulership. So the Bolton derive their authority by literally being given the North by the crown after killing Robb Stark and hope to retain that claim in front of the northern lords by seemingly marrying “Arya Stark”. The former is legally and politically important. The latter is socially important. If the North wasn’t actually granted to the Boltons, Ramsay marrying Arya wouldn’t have done jack to their claim, sorry. Which leads me to the latter, having a political marriage between the Boltons and the Starks reduces the chances of a revolt by the “more loyal” northern lords. “Even Lady Dustin says him keeping his title depends on how he treats his wife”. Yes, so as to not anger the northern lords. If his claim was from the ladyship of his wife, then it wouldn’t have depended on how he treated her. Eg. Lady Hornwood. How are you proving my own point here.
Ramsay doesn’t derive his authority from his wife who is the Lady of Winterfell. He doesn’t even derive it from his wife. He married a “Stark” because it merely quells the rumbling of a revolt and makes the Boltons more palpatable as Wardens of the North. Moreover, if they were deriving the claim from Arya then Ramsay would be the Lord of Winterfell but he’s not, Roose is. If the Boltons really wanted to lay a claim to the north by marrying Arya, then they would have torn apart heaven and earth to find the real one and married the her, and that too to Roose, not Ramsay. But they can’t, because she inherently doesn’t hold that power. This also doesn’t mean that she is less of a Stark so don’t think I am trying to say that.
Do you think if hypothetically Lord Manderly married his son to Arya, would that automatically make him the liege lord of the north? Does marrying Lysa to Jon Arryn make Jon Arryn’s father the ruling lord of the Riverlands? Does it even make Jon the ruling lord of the riverlands? Even if Hoster and Edmure were dead, neither Jon Arryn nor his father would have no claim to the Riverlands. Where is this logic even coming from? It’s clearly not in universe. Your argument about Lady Hornwood holds no water because there was no royal decree that proclaimed him as the Lord of Hornwood. If there was, he wouldn’t need to marry Lady Hornwood herself, even any of her daughters to appease her subjects because her subjects are not noble houses with armies of their own. Hornwood is not the entirety of the North. The North is half the continent and therefore holds much more political sway. Hornwood is a small House. How are you even drawing parallels here? The Boltons won’t just hand wave away the royal fucking decree for no good reason especially when they stabbed and betrayed their own King for it. What made you even think of this???
Lastly, this is not GRRM trying to muddle the Stark succession. This is GRRM trying to show the reader that sometimes people with less social standing and power are abused simply because those higher than them can get away with it. He means to say that this is something that will not happen to someone from a bigger House. This was to highlight the inherently lopsided, power-imbalanced, oppressive system that is cruel to those it deems weak.
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sarcasticsweetlara · 6 months
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Queen Alyssa Velaryon's Crown
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Alyssa Velaryon was an interesting woman for sure, one of the most important women of Westeros and even in the Essosi continent.
Mother of two dynasties and a warrior till the end no matter what others say about her.
Alyssa was the granddaughter of the famous Daemon Velaryon who had helped in the Conquest and was friends with the Conquerors, Alyssa was the daughter of the powerful Aethan Velaryon with his wife Alarra Massey - who presumably had a Targaryen mother as that would explain why the Masseys chose to side with the Targaryens instead of Argilac or Harren, also Fire and Blood, AWOIAF, and Rise of the Dragon mention Alyssa having Targaryen blood-.
Alyssa Velaryon having Targaryen and Velaryon blood gave her a unique status which made her get married to Aenys, she was considered lovely and smart and we see her children having those traits as Rhaena, Jaehaerys and Alysanne (Aegon was as well and surely Viserys too but we got too little time with them) and also her willfulness got to Alysanne who due to Alyssa's mother Alarra Massey who is certainly the daughter of a Targaryen woman, had honey hair and clear blue eyes, and very probably her son Viserys and last daughter with Aenys, Vaella as well.
Her aqua blue crown represents her "blue-blooded" Valyrian blood, and the beginning of an era in which the Velaryons were the second most powerful House in the realm as they dominated the seas and the silver details the silver coins the Velaryons had, also it would be beautiful to parallel the curves of the crown with those of waves.
Alyssa was so brave, determined and focused on her and her family surviving that she helped establish her son Jaehaerys' reign and now, even if her Targaryen descendants are fighting for the crown - Daenerys and Jon too even if he doesn't know it-; she still has descendants spread around Westeros through her daughter Jocelyn Baratheon's great granddaughters Baela and Rhaena's own descendants, and probably Houses from the Reach and Marcher Houses as well.
She went from being the daughter of the Lord of the Tides to Queen Consort and Regent to Lady of Storm's End.
Alyssa Velaryon deserves more recognition for her hard work as queen, mother and person.
Alyssa herself anointed her son Aegon as the Prince of Dragonstone and championed for him to be declared king, and she was the one who always knew Aegon was way stronger than his father Aenys.
Alyssa had to make the hard decision of potentially risking the life of her son Viserys in order to save her youngest children, she rose in rebellion against Maegor even if it risked her granddaughter Aerea because this is the heritage for which her son Aegon the Prince of Dragonstone died fighting and the very same dynasty her family had helped build as both the Velaryons and Masseys (due to Alarra being the daughter of a Targaryen lady) played a pivotal role in the Conquest, the realm that her husband Aenys even if unsuccessfully tried to keep together.
Alyssa always defended her children and her goal was for them to be safe, live and have the inheritance that belonged to them, because Alyssa had Targaryen and Velaryon blood and she knew it was a coup what they were doing to her and her children.
Alyssa could not vouch for Rhaena's claim because Rhaena had been held captive and forcefully wed to Maegor, if Alyssa tried to do it, Maegor would not doubt in killing the three of them: Rhaena, Aerea and Rhaella.
Everything Alyssa did was to protect all that was left and that she at least could be sure could still be saved.
Alyssa became stronger with time, and as the Lady Consort of Storm's End she raised her son Boremund to be fair and kind (sadly Borros was overly fool) and to be loyal to his siblings, she commanded the Stormlands well enough for her to gain respect and had Alyssa survived she would have loved Jocelyn and counseled her on how to be ready to become a Royal Consort and the future Queen of Westeros; Alyssa could have also been there for the wife of Boremund (my headcanon is that Boremund married a Velaryon as well) and help raise Borros.
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Alyssa's tiara as the Lady Baratheon would have been passed to the wife of Boremund and then to the future Ladies of Storm's End.
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Had Aegon III wed his cousin Jaehaera to Rickon Stark (the son of Cregan Stark), Jaehaera could have been similar to her Ancestor Alyssa Velaryon in doing the best out of her situation as the Lady of Winterfell just like Alyssa Velaryon did as the Lady of Storm's End.
Jaehaera could have lived and her daughters Sansa and Serena being heiresses wed to their Stark half-uncles in order to keep Winterfell would be more poetic.
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fromtheseventhhell · 9 months
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I think it's ironic that D&D kind of forgot, that it were the northern lords who proclaimed Robb/Jon as KITN. And after Jon bend the knee, it were only them who could proclaim Sansa as QITN, but do we ever have a scene like that? Just a scene when Sansa declares the North independent kingdom by herself and another one, were she is being crowned. So when did the northern lords chose her as QITN? Did they knew about Sansa's intentions at all? How come she isn't called a tyrant, when Dany is?
I wouldn't even say they forgot, I just think they didn't care about telling a cohesive story. They wanted to give Sansa a crown in the end as a reward and didn't care how it fit into the story. Not only did the Northerners not choose her as their Queen, they previously had the chance to crown her and they chose Jon instead. She never even asked how they felt about being independent and, considering the rightful heir to Winterfell was now the King of the 7K, they likely would've been okay with being united. Sansa couldn't even secure enough food to get them through Winter but I'm sure being independent is going to work out sooooo well for them. Funny that she wanted them to be independent but she had to rely on Bran's power as King to make that happen...all Hail Sansa, the Queen Who Was Never Chosen!!!
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imaginarianisms · 21 days
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our& sansa still kills ramsay like she does in the show btw, but not necessarily due to him violating her (though i genuinely wouldn't be surprised if he tried) but for what he did to her best friend jeyne.
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