#ladynoir breakup

[galahadwilder]

Marinette and Adrien are dating and they are so, so happy but Marinette can’t help feeling like something is missing. Adrien is the perfect boyfriend, the perfect gentleman, so she feels like something is wrong with her—and then she realizes that what’s missing is Chat Noir.

She’s in love with Chat, always has been, and now that he’s moved on and found a girlfriend and stopped flirting with her she feels like something got carved out of her chest. And yeah they’re still best friends, still partners, but something about their easy camaraderie feels poisoned.

And Adrien simply isn’t Chat. He doesn’t have the same goofy side to him that she’s come to love.

She’s torn. She loves Adrien, she does, but she loves Chat too, and how is she supposed to choose between them? But she knows that if she did have to, she’d choose Chat, and it’s tearing her up inside.

Eventually, she tells Chat everything. How she feels like a monster for it. How she can barely eat because of it. Because she is in love with her boyfriend, she wants to marry him, but she is in love with Chat and she needs him like she needs air to breathe.

She and Adrien end up breaking up because he realizes she’s unhappy with him, even though he can’t figure out why. (Surprisingly, Ladybug’s confession is not part of his decision. He loves Marinette and wants her to be happy, even if it’s not with him.) That night, Ladynoir meet up, and Ladybug confesses to Chat again, and asks him out.

They decide to reveal identities.

About four blocks of Paris get to hear a very loud Ladybug scream of “SON OF A FUCKING BITCH”

(Luckily they both take it very well and they’re back to goo-ily dating each other within the hour, if slightly more goofy and relaxed with each other going forward)

#miraculous ladybug #miraculous #adrien agreste #marinette dupain cheng #angst #original content #chat noir #ladybug #adrienette #adrinette #ladynoir #ml #Adrienette breakup #identity reveal #crack

[coffeebanana]

I’m not saying I want adrinette to break up in S6, I’m just saying that’s how we get ladrien

#fic pending #kayla rambles #miraculous ladybug #ladrien #this argument also works with ladynoir which is a genuine route I think canon COULD take #like. in canon I’m lowkey rooting for an adrinette breakup followed by a ladrien episode that catapults ladynoir #similarly to how marichat set up adrinette in s5 #perhaps not LIKELY but definitely within the realm of possibility

[justhereforkeefe]

#mlb #just read #ladynoir #drinking #post breakup #identity reveal #oneshot

[trashart00]

Less than 12 hours until the release of “The Tortured Poets Department”!

Hence, I present to you, “The Tortured Catboy Department”

Track List:

SIDE A: Deux Semaines (feat Ladybug) / The Tortured Catboy Department / My Lady Abandons Only Her Favourite Partners / Down Bad

SIDE B: So Long, London / But Daddy I Love Her / Fresh Out the Slammer / Akuma !!! (feat Monarch)

SIDE C: Guilty As Sin? / Who’s Afraid of Little Old Me / Even Ladybug Can’t Fix This / loml

SIDE D: I Can Do It With a Broken Heart / The Smallest Man Who Ever Lived / The Cataclysm / Adrien Agreste

Bonus Tracks: The Black Cat / Solitude / Doppelgänger / Tell-Tail Heart

(Love how so many of the original track names still work)

My takes of what each song is about/inspired by under cut (but, if you feel like it, tell me yours :D)

I’m picturing all of these to be from Adrien’s perspective so they reflect mostly his version of the situations rather than the objective reality (especially the Laybug centered ones)

Deux Semaines (feat Ladybug): This one would focus on the sequence in Multiplication where Monarch doesn’t attack and how LadyNoir’s relationship recovers from the events of Season 4.

TTCD: Kept the “Catboy” singular because while there are multiple Catboy identities, there is only one boy underneath them all. Hence while I think it would be about him just stating his issues with everything, it would also focus on loneliness and how his department is understaffed :(

MLAOHFP: All of the Season 4 LadyNoir separation arc angst, with the “Favourite” being a callback to Risk (and kinda a jab at Rena because he thinks that she’s really her favourite, but y’ know, she didn’t abandon her so Rena can’t be her actual favourite)

Down Bad: Mainly about how Chat’s love for LB makes him excuse her behaviors, but also makes him act out (maybe a reference to Elation).

SL,L: About the whole arc of Gabriel sending Adrien to London and all of the memories he would have surrounding this ordeal - key point, not “So Long, Paris” because he didn’t want to leave, and in the end he comes back to a changed world.

BDILH: This one’s either about the Chat Blanc breakup or Gabriel’s dislike of Marinette in Season 5 (or both, with maybe a line about how he feels like this has happened before)

FOTS: Adrien realizing his father is a Bad Person.

Akuma !!! (feat Monarch): This one would be like a song about his daily life and then the chorus would start with a shout of “Akuma!!!” and it would switch to him as Chat Noir. I feel like it would start out with normal life being boring/hero life being fun but as it goes on he grows exhausted. Monarch has a rap verse.

Guilty As Sin?: Chat Blanc centeric - would ask who is to blame for the destruction of the world, like is it Chat because he lost control or Hawkmoth because he took advantage of his son’s emotion?

WAoLOM: Chat Blanc centric at first (like a villain song) but ends with Adrien reflecting on the events of Evolution-Destruction-Multiplication-PS night

ELCFT: I think it would be about his relaction ship with his father and how he wishes there was something he could do to go back to how they were when Emilie was alive but there’s no easy fix and his father keeps on getting worse and worse after any attempt.

loml: A song for Marinette with a bittersweet air - she’s the love of his life but he can’t tell her everything, and she can’t tell him everything either

ICDIWaBH: CatWalker centric - him going back to Ladybug in Kuroneko.

TSMWEL: I actually have three for this one - 1. About Gabriel and his need to domineer because he feels small and powerless. 2. About Adrien feeling small and insignificant. 3.About Plagg because he’s a smol boi (it would be like a lighthearted, cheeky song, like when you sing to your pet about how adorable they are)

The Cataclysm: Literally about how he cataclysmed Monarch, but also about how the event impacted his perception of self.

Adrien Agreste: Ending the album with a song that’s his own name :o.

Now for the variants:

The Black Cat: This one has Chat on the cover and the song is mostly about his bad luck. ‘I Love You It’s Ruining My Life” works both directed at Ladybug and his father.

Solitude: With Chat Blanc on the cover, this one’s about his mother. I think the “You Don’t Get To Tell Me About Sad” is pretty self-explanatory.

Doppelgänger: CatWalker is on this one, his song would be about how he may literally be the same person but he doesn’t fully feel like himself. He had to repress a lot of himself to be CatWalker hence I thought “Am I Allowed To Cry?” fit him really well (especially with Plagg not giving him the time to fully recover before he had to jump back in). Please note the crossed out name (unlike Chat Blanc) because he’s reinventing himself.

Tell-Tail Heart: This one has Ladybug on the cover - wait she’s not a Catboy?? The song is titled “Tell-Tail Heart” as a reference to Edgar Allan Poe’s “Tell Tale Heart” and would explore Chat’s perspective of Ladybug’s guilt for keeping secrets, how any excuse she makes is ultimately unimportant because she would do it either way. The fact that this is the only song title with a pun references how Chat tries to lighten the mood and avoid serious conversations, and the “Tail” is supposed to refer to Rena Rouge. The flowers she’s holding are meant to be foxgloves which symbolise secrets and insincerity (they’re also poisonous and damage the heart :)). I also really liked the “Old Habits Die Screaming” for her as it could mean both Chat Noir’s love for her being an old habit that he cannot get rid of, but also her habit of keeping things from him (especially with how she does it again at the end of season 5) being something she can’t stop. It is also him being able to see that, despite what she tells him, her “Heart” is tells him otherwise.

(also would like to point out that he wouldn’t mention Rena by name, he’s upset, not evil)

#miraculous #miraculous ladybug #ml season 5 #adrien agreste #chat noir #chat blanc #cat walker #patte de velours #ml ladybug #taylor swift #the tortured poets department #ts ttpd #ml fanart #ok so at first I wanted to do these with maribug but then I started trying to come up with alternative names and it dawned on me #she’s still on the last cover though <3 #the tortured Catboy department #inspiration hit me like a truck like I can almost hear the songs

[anna-scribbles]

hey anna! the wait for kwami’s choice part 2 truly is abysmal and it’s so hard to navigate through the tag with all the leaks about, do you have any fic recs to tide us over until gloob puts us out of our misery?

not only do I have fic recs, I also have way too much to do rn and therefore will spend an inordinate amount of time crafting a detailed rec list for you 😘 (we can also just consider this my 2022 ao3 wrapped lol)

goes without saying perhaps, but ANYTHING by @peachcitt is gold and also uniquely devastating, some of my particular favorites being:

metamorphosis - 97k, enemies, sleepovers, you get it. i'm normal

those benevolent stars - 23k, ladrien thief/prince/soulmates au. what more do I even need to say

chat noir's white french man hit list for feminist purposes - 7k, hilarious and devastating, this fic is a child to me

double dare - 32k, ladrien, absolutely everything. cemented my friendship w/ peach bc I had to scream at her everyday abt it

I thought the plane was going down - 11k, attuned to my tastes specifically, adrinette having a History while on airplanes

@carpisuns also puts out banger after banger like it's her dayjob, specializing in understanding the ridiculous nature of the lovesquare to such a degree and also being the funniest person alive. some of my faves from her are:

tell me something I don't know - 120k, the marichat fic EVER, mar's dissertation on lovesquare and guess what she's right

pink - 14k wip, adrien loves marinette, SOFT

two idiots and a hamster (collab with @botherkupo) - 24k, adrinette roommates, makes me cry laugh

@picayunearts is a goddess on earth. she bends word and image flawlessly to her will. recently she has enraptured me with

final girl - 41k, marichat, au where marinette succeeds in giving up her miraculous to alya in origins. INCREDIBLE marinette character study

@rosekasa invented ladynoir and i'm not afraid to say it. check out everything on her ao3 but just note the following

when things were good - 15k wip, breakup fic/post hawkmoth takedown, has been ruining me in a SPECIAL way

new marinette 12k, post-guardianship memory loss marinette, a classic

like poles of a magnet - 12k, enemies au, hurts my feelings

ya'aburnee - 13k, ladynoir, HURTS ME VERY MUCH. I'VE NOT RECOVERED

@buggachat's fics always feel like i'm attending a course on adrien and marinette's true characterizations explained to me by someone with a PhD in lovesquare and I walk away enlightened. she has an incredible gift for storytelling and just Getting It. anyway read

maintaining a professional distance - 43k, ladynoir hotel room shenanigans, god-tier characterization

when you're near 10k, ladynoir dating but adrinette have never met, a classic

@sha-nwa should honestly quit her career and write lovesquare fanfiction for me full time. proof:

the way I loved you - 68k, marichat break up fic, will be cemented into my mind forever

photograph - 1k, sweet adrinette, abby loves making me cry

things WOULD be amiss if I did not mention @officialratprince (carolinaa on ao3) bc their fics derailed my homework schedule on several occasions last semester, though I'll be honest that their fics are not for the faint of heart or those who wish adrien agreste to have a good time. my faves are

I will take it / it can't go wrong series - 3 fics at 16k, 25k, and 39k, adrien's journey through experiencing child abuse and his friends being there for him, culminating in gabriel's court trial

home sick - 14k wip, adrien gets pneumonia and Everything Is Really Bad

other various fics I love for various reasons:

how hawkmoth got his groove back series by @agrestenoir - 2 fics at 3k and 1k, one of my favorite crack fics i read last year. had me crying laughing

1 step forward, 3 steps back by agnes writes - 10k, breaks my heart every time I read it. also makes me legitimately angry at adrien while still keeping him in character which is a feat in and of itself

the last day on earth by reiaji - 10k, chat blanc keeps happening as marinette gets older, I am incapable of not recommending this fic

okay now go forth and don't do your work<3

#such a struggle for me to hold back and not just list every single one of everyone's fics. #looking at this list I realiize that I in fact read a lot of fanfiction #I cant even find it within myself to feel cringe about it bc these are all legitimately so GOOD #ml #miraculous ladybug #ml fic rec #mlb fic rec #anna rambles #asks

[alexfierroaf]

Yea, I’m convinced that the Miraculous season finale was unsatisfying on purpose.

The “happy ending” scene at the end had this surrealist lighting and slightly off-putting music in the background. It gives off major false utopia vibes. It actually makes me feel relieved, because there were two things I was worried about for this finale but the way they wrote it resolves those issues a bit.

First, I was worried that they were going to try to wrap up everything perfectly within the span of this two episode special. There was no way they were going to be able to give all the different plot points and character arcs the closure they needed within that time frame. by leaving us with an open ending, It gives itself room to properly develop and deal with the fallout from this mess slowly over time.

And then, arguably the bigger issue, was Miraculous’ future after season 5. I kept thinking to myself, what are they going to have to do to keep Miraculous interesting after this? Sure we’ve got Lila, or Cerise, or whatever her name is, but everything we’ve been following this series for since the beginning was about to be resolved. Monarch gone. The Agreste arc over. Adrienette canon. What is Miraculous’ sense of identity after this? Do they hit the reset button and retell the story Disney sequel style? Do they force a breakup between Adrienette to keep the romance plot alive? What’s the point of this still VERY fresh reveal of senti-Adrien if Gabriel and his influence is nothing but a distant memory?

But because of the way things went down, none of those things we thought would be resolved actually are. Monarch fucking won. He got what he wanted, and now everyone is living in a world of his image. He’s remembered as a goddamn hero, which is fucking infuriating! And Adrien doesn’t know! Doesn’t know that his dad was a supervillain and terrorist, doesn’t know that he’s a sentimonster, doesn’t fully accept that he’s been abused. And Marinette is keeping all that from him! Probably because she doesn’t want to inflict unnecessary pain on him, but when he finds out he’s going to be an absolute MESS.

Which means the Agreste plot, the family drama, the relationship antics that we’ve been following for all these years will continue as a throughline in the show. It means that there are natural reasons to continue existing conflicts and keep the show running without it feeling contrived. Because none of this is ok, and it’s going to take a lot of time to resolve. A lot of pain, a lot of drama, and a lot of conflict. I wouldn’t be surprised if Adrien and Marinette have major relationship problems over the secrets that she’s keeping from him. The Ladynoir angst from season 4 is back at full force. And you KNOW Cerise is going to zero in on that shit like a moth to a flame. Before this I was fearing a ultra-contrived break up to keep the audience invested in their story, but now I would be totally satisfied with a temporary break up as Marinette’s secrets become too much to keep hidden.

So yea, I was angry at the season 5 finale. The Gabriel statue made me gag. And I REALLY wanted to see Adrien stick it to his father. But then again, he did in his own way. He pulled one over his father by tricking him into muting his mics, which gave him a chance to strategize with Plagg. He’s the one who decided to play the long game and wait patiently while Plagg found a new holder to defeat Monarch with -- as opposed to rushing in with brute force, which shows significant character growth for him, by the way. I’m proud of him. And I can’t wait to see where his arc goes from here as he continues to explore his own agency and his relationships with people around him.

As for Marinette, I was very satisfied with her face-off against Monarch/Gabriel. The moment he realized his archnemesis was her was priceless. And that piano? God. That was glorious. She was a total badass. And she demonstrated her growth, too. She acted with a lot more maturity than we’ve seen at other points in her story by putting aside her personal vendetta towards Gabriel and Monarch to focus on creating a peaceful solution -- even if it did come back to bite her in the ass hard.

So the manipulator won. Fitting, because I feel kind of manipulated too. I would’ve never guessed in a million years that Gabriel would actually be able to make his wish in the permanent timeline, or that Miraculous would go down such an unsettling and unsatisfying route (at least in the short term). I’ve gotta respect them for that. All these years we thought we knew how this conflict was going to resolve -- all those dramatic reveals in the Agreste basement, the final battle between Adrien and his piece of shit dad, Adrien breaking out of his control in one decisive and cathartic swoop. Instead, we got something much more sinister, something much more insidious. Whatever is lurking around the corner is bound to have MAJOR repercussions going forward.

So I’m content to wait and see what happens next. There’s no point in complaining about how a story went when it isn’t even resolved yet. Was it perfect? Nope. Will it be done perfectly in the future? Also no. And that’s ok. Because it never will be perfect, and what we saw here made sense. It was impactful. It creates new opportunities for the characters and their story arcs that didn’t exist before this finale. We are in a new era of Miraculous, and I will be waiting on the edge of my seat to find out what the hell this beautifully unpredictable series is going to evolve into next.

#ml spoilers #marinette dupain cheng #adrien agreste #gabriel agreste #love square #miraculous ladybug #miraculous season 5 #miraculous revolution #miraculous recreation #lila rossi #ladybug #chat noir #bugnoir

[miabrown007]

I just don't think we appreciate enough the inherent hilarity of Ladrien/Marichat getting together publicly before the reveal. like, it's cute and all, but you know that at one point in the future they'll just have to stage a whole grand breakup, then feign being heartbroken over their "failed relationship", before getting together as Adrinette/Ladynoir.

and then, on the Adrinette wedding, they'll be rushed by paparazzi who will ask dumb questions like, "Congratulations to the both of you! Adrien, tell me, how does it feel to marry Chat Noir's ex?"

for which, Adrien will look taken aback for only a second before shrugging a little, smiling his softest-smuggest smile, and saying, "It's the best day of my life. I'm just really glad Marinette had only belatedly realize, she could have done better than me."

and Marinette will promptly have an aneurysm.

#adrien agreste #marinette dupain cheng #miraculous ladybug #marichat #adrinette #ladrien #marichat/ladrien solidarity #marichat/ladrien solidarity is literally so important #a companion piece to 'what terrible timing' actually dsfgsfdgh #miaing

[ladyofthenoodle]

WIP Reblog Game

thanks for the tag, @kasienda!

If you're like me and you have a million WIPs and are anxious about updating them, play this game!

List the titles your top five priorities for WIP updates (link your fics for new readers!)

An upcoming scene, event, or detail in each fic that you're looking forward to writing

Bonus: make a poll for your followers to vote on which top 5 WIP they are most excited to see an update on!

Then tag 10 writer friends!

My current top five WIP priorities (which are… the 5 wips i have posted, good job me keeping it at 5 😂):

part time soulmate full time problem

lies of attrition

we are the foxes

lead me up the staircase

all’s well chat ends well

What I'm excited about:

i’m super stuck on chapter 4 of this fic, but i’m excited to share the flashback of ladynoir breakup at the beginning of the chapter (that's already written)! and so excited to write the reveal for this one, if i can just get to it (or convince myself to write non-chronologically)

the next few chapters are @wackus-bonkus-maximus so i’m mostly excited to beta the scenes she has coming up. we have some new POVs coming into play the next couple chapters that i am so eager to see her write. and then when it’s my turn again we have an adrinette scene that i’m dying to dig into.

tbh this one is mostly on hiatus until part time soulmate is done and i’ve been trying not to think about it 🙈

yes it’s been more than a year since my last update but i LOVE the ending i have planned for this one

like everybody reading it, i’m probably most excited for when adrien finally gets an invite to the server…. but it’s so much fun keeping him out of it that i’m going to delay our satisfaction as long as possible 😉

Poll time!

No pressure tags:

@chocoluckchipz @bittersweetresilience @jattendschaton @anna-scribbles @cakemousse @sariahsue @mozzygan @marimbles @h-sunnywet-d @into-september

sorry if any of yall have been tagged already i'm doing my best

#tag game #only dreading the results of this poll a little bit

[jacquesthepigeon]

I want the LadyNoir breakup/civil war I want it so bad. Unresolved communication issues from S4 that were put on hold for S5 suddenly come back with a vengeance plus all the new stuff with the sentis and Gabriel and Adrien just. Reacts badly. I know people don't want to "ruin the LS" or "give salters more fuel to hate Adrien" but like. That's the beauty of it. I think I'd actually like him more. That's how the power of love wins, guys. He ultimately chooses Maribug and his friends and his new family over Gabriel and Emilie.

I personally feel like the window for that has passed and pushing it now would feel forced. The time to do it would’ve been when Gabriel was alive and Adrien would’ve had a clear motive and end goal. But yes, I would’ve loved to see their conflict too 🥲

#anon #ask

[miraculouslbcnreactions]

Season 5 really killed my love for love square, especially with the way the choose Adrien, a kid with massive trauma and depression, as a therapist for his girlfriend. The whole "I want to be everything Marinette want" is bad for Adrien even more so because he doesn't get the same effort from Marinette.

The whole Adrienette is one sided and it remind me of a girl in one yt clip where she basically said she want a man who do everything she want while the man should already be grateful to be chosen as her boyfriend, which means she will do the bare minimum if nothing at all in that relationship.

Marinette isn't that kind of girl but the way the story goes it sure seems like that because Adrien doesn't allowed to bother her, he just continue to serve whatever she needs without her needing to do the same.

People saying that they'll break up and I agree, but also it will take a whole lot of character development for Adrien, something that the writers seems to hate it seems. Even if they argue or have a break up, I doubt it will be last for an episode before Adrien goes back to Marinette and say sorry. That's how Ladynoir conflict solved Kuro Neko after all, with Cat Noir be a bigger person while Ladybug do nothing at all.

Girl power is supposed to be a slogan to empower girls and Marinette supposed to be a role model for the young audience but at this point I don't even want my nieces and nephew to watch this show if what they teach them is that boy should do whatever the girls said and never bother with their girls with their feelings because man should "suck it up" while the girls can do whatever without minding about their man need.

I would actually be surprised if they broke up. Not because it's unearned, they arguably should breakup or at least get some sort of therapy, I just don't think that the writers have the guts to do that.

As you said, a breakup would only work if it led into character growth and they're allergic to doing that in this show in part because of the mandate that every episode must stand alone. That's a fine rule in a monster of the week show where all the drama is sitcom stuff that can be easily solved in 20 minutes, but a terrible rule in a show that's diving into the levels of complexity that Miraculous is trying to pull off. The show's current format is the worst of both worlds: complex plots that lack the complexity to really work and monster-of-the-week battles that feel rushed because they're being squeezed down to make room for the more complex stuff.

Prior to season four, my opinion of Miraculous was that it was a decent show for its indented audience, but there were a few plot points that required serious discussion to explain why they were wrong (for example: the "don't confront liars unless you're doing it for ideologically pure reasons" lesson from Lila's intro). As the show currently stands? I would not willingly introduce it to a young kid for a myriad of reasons. One of those reasons is the fact that the relationship drama we're currently dealing with is suited to a show for teenagers while still having the writing of a show for young children, leading the drama to feel weird and toothless. Yet another worst of both worlds.

All of this is quite sad because Miraculous has such a fantastic setup for being a cute, fun, healthy romance for all ages! It's why I started watching it and the choices made by the people running the show are truly baffling.

They picked a setup that allowed for all of the tension of a love triangle with none of the awkward fallout and then.... decided to introduce two love triangles.

They went with a duo setup to allow the male romantic lead to be mostly comic relief without feeling superfluous and then.... decided to introduce a larger team without establishing anything to make him feel like more than the comic relief.

They picked a setup that allowed for balanced support needs and then.... never let Adrien get any support.

That last one is the thing that really upsets me. When it comes to magical girl shows and their male-focused equivalents, it's somewhat standard for the main character (or main characters) to get all the struggles while the love interest (or love interests) are just there to give comfort and support, leading the love interest to have minimal character development. (Ex: Sailor Moon, Winx club, almost every shonen show ever made, the list goes on)

This isn't necessarily a flaw. You don't want to bloat a story with pointless side conflicts and you can still write a good romance under these conditions. After all, in real life, it's perfectly normal for relationships to go through phases where one person needs more support than the other. As long as it's implied that the love interest has more going on than just being a love interest, you're okay. Not amazing, but okay.

To put it in more concrete terms, if the Prince Dreamy Eyes is ruling the kingdom with his best friends at his side while Princess Sparkle Tutu is stopping the monsters, but the show mostly focuses on the prince supporting the princess and the princess fighting to save the day, that works. The prince is clearly not just arm candy. And maybe the viewers would really like a few one-off episodes about what Dream Eyes does while the Sparkle Tutu isn't around, but this IS a magical girl show so it makes sense that all the "filler" episodes go to the Sparkle Knights and not the Prince and the Dream Team.

This excuse obviously doesn't work for Miraculous because it didn't relegate Adrien to background love interest status. He is a key part of the team, but that's still something you can work around. In team-based shows with a large cast, it's not uncommon for some of the team to just kinda be there to round out the team while one or two main leads get the character growth and personal struggles. This isn't even a flaw as it's arguably better to have more focused drama. If everyone had a sob story, then no one does.

But that excuse doesn't work for Miraculous either because the show is driven by a conflict that's centered around Adrien. A beautifully simple yet powerful conflict that was perfectly tailored for making the relationship between the leads feel balanced.

On the hero side, Ladybug needs all the love and support because everything is riding on her. On the civilian side, Adrien needs all the love and support because he's a sheltered kid whose father is the villain. That allows for a setup where it doesn't feel like either character is nothing more than the love interest. You can make them both complex and flip around the support/supporter roles based on what part of the conflict the story is dealing with in a given moment. It will forever be a tragedy that such a wonderful premise was pulled off this terribly, which is why I say that I'm still a fanon shipper even though canon is dead to me. I love writing and reading takes on this premise that do it right. It's why I got into the fandom in the first place! I'm not really drama to cute romance. I'm drawn to interesting story ideas that feature romance, which is what Miraculous should have been.

#ml writing salt #ml writing critical #adrien deserves better #marinette deserves better

[iwasbored777]

Marinette is literally the only person who truly loves Adrichat for who he really is. As Adrien she knows so much about him and his flaws, his difficulties, she's the first person he runs to when he needs help, cries in front of her, she understands him, she's his good friend, and with Chat Noir all this too. Ladybug saw Chat at his lowest and his best, she was angry with him for his mistakes, she was proud of him for his accomplishments, they argued, they loved each other, they were friends and partners and it's them against the world. And then when Chat told her she mistook admiration for love it made her so sad because it wasn't his mask that was the problem - it was hers. Because she can't say why she loves him and that they have a history together, he thinks she only likes him after seeing him a few times, and if we add her feelings for Adrien in the mix she really is the only one who loves him and while only he isn't aware of the Chat Noir part, both of them are unaware of the Adrien part. He's out there wondering if he can make her love him for who he really is but the truth is she already does that and never stopped. She loves all sides of him and everything that has to offer and it has nothing to with admiration - that is pure love. When she said she doesn't care who's under the mask she was right because she already loves both the boy with and without the mask. That breakup fuked me up big time because she couldn't say and he didn't know, this has the same energy as Ladynoir conflict but reversed.

#miraculous ladybug #marinette dupain cheng #adrien agreste #ladybug #chat noir #Marichat #ml elation #ml analysis #Ladynoir #Love square #Adrienette

[literaphobe]

us when adrienette gets divorced and runs off to kiss as their alter egos

HERE ME OUT s6 marinette realizes the only way she can continue to protect adrien would involve her breaking up w him bc performing her heroic duties and keeping her otherworldly secrets are too painful as his Literal Girlfriend and in some turn of events ladynoir get Closer again and confide in each other about their recent breakups and in moments of weakness they KISS and this time it’s A REALITY THAT THEY BOTH REMEMBER THAT CANT BE ERASED and they feel SO ASHAMED bc FUCK I just took advantage of my recently heartbroken partner bc im lonely AND even tho we aren’t dating anymore it feels too soon since the breakup it’s so fucked up of me to do this to them even tho they don’t know….. etc etc HIGH LEVELS OF TENSION AND PAINFULLY CONCEALED AWKWARDNESS ON ALL SIDES… which hopefully results in Hijinks and Situations

#ask #DONT SHOOT ME im just rambling for fun…… #mlbposting #ml season 6 #<- just in case

[purrincess-chat]

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I hear fans saying that ladrien sucks because canon doesn’t give us any crumbs but ummm hello? How is marichat the most popular ship then because marichat is also not very much prevalent in the show. Ladynoir and adrinette have always been the primary focus. And ladrien and marichat have been equally shown. Like in s1 we had evillustrator and Simon says and volpina, in s2 glaciator and befana and style queen and gorizilla, in s3 weredad and desperada, in s4 glaciator 2 and ephemeral and strike back. I think the only time ladrien got less than marichat was in s5 but even then there was deflagration. So I definitely don’t understand the narrative that ladrien is given less attention than marichat. It’s just that mc stans dgaf about canon and make outlandish claims.

(I think I submitted this ask before but I’m not sure it reached. So I’m sorry for ranting in your inbox twice.)

It did not reach me the first time (yay tumblr!) So good call. I was actually thinking after I responded to a previous ask recently about how people want Adrien and Marinette to breakup to restore balance, and my thought was: what balance? Because you're right the love square has never been "balanced" between the sides. LN and Adrinette always had the most screentime and development, and up until s4 MC actually had the least. Yet, it was the most popular ever since Evillustrator aired. It's only been in the last couple seasons that Ladrien has had less screentime than they had been getting (s4 and 5 didn't have a designated "ladrien" episode like prior seasons, I mean), but we still had some pretty big moments with them.

It's just always some people's excuse to shit on Ladrien because they see it as a threat to their favorite side because instead of recognizing that the love square is the same two people, they view each side as its own ship that's competing with the other 3. That's why the Ladrien tag gets filled with bullshit rankings and favorite ship polls because people don't understand what the love square is or how it operates. The sides aren't working against each other. They're all working in tandem toward one goal: an eventual post reveal relationship between the two where all sides converge and form a singular dynamic. But peoples response to Adrinette being canon just proves that people don't understand that. I think that's the most annoying part of it to me is that it so clearly demonstrates that people don't understand the show/this ship. Like it's one thing to be a bit bummed your favorite side wasn't the one that got to be canon official (and stick for longer than an episode) but it's another thing to claim the show is ruined, it's bad writing, bad for the characters, toxic, unfair, unhealthy, boring, etc.

Honestly, it's so wild to me how this fandom treats the requited sides of the square. Up until s5, people didn't like Ladrien because it was requited and "boring" and "they don't even have to try" and "all they do is blush and stammer" (which isn't even the Ladrien dynamic at all, but I digress) and now that Adrinette is canon I see those exact same arguments being flung. Interestingly, I saw posts after Elation aired from MC stans whining that MC is boring and "like Ladrien" now, and it honestly melted my brain a little. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the point of ships that they get together? Is that not what we want? I'd get it if it were some random background ship with no hope of ever coming to fruition but this is the flagship of the whole show. We are supposed to want them to like each other back and get together...

This fandom is a cesspool honestly. I see people hurt themselves in confusion every day about this ship. Ladrien has always gotten the short end of the stick in this fandom, for no real reason other than people are weird and lack the ability to comprehend the media they consume. It's annoying, but that's what the block button is for. 🤷‍♀️

#cat replies #asks #s5 discourse #ml fandom salt

[almadesarrollo]

MLB SEASON 6 FELINETTE'S BIG TRACK IN JEREMY ZAG'S VIDEO (new Miraculous scenarios via Instagram) ANALYSIS AND FELINETTE CLUES FOR S6 PART 6 marinette's balcony :TRAY part1

PART 5: SHELVING:

5 TRAY WITH TEA CUP: Tea cups are something that is always present on Marinette's balcony. Let's first talk about what type they are and their uses, then about their design.

These types of teapots are known as cast iron teapots and are typical of China and Japan, the latter in the tea ceremony.

Iron teapots had their origin in China, in the Ming dynasty when a closed container was needed to infuse the tea, it was made with different materials, iron and Chinese porcelain, then it expanded to Japan, where it was used in the tea ceremony. te as symbolism of strength and unity, currently they are best known for being used in this region in these types of events, it is known by the name of Tetsubin.

So if we think about this, 2 countries come to mind, Kagami and Marinette, therefore this represents, on Marinette's side, that she is going to learn to "live in the present moment and not worry about anything" we know what it is like. Marinette when she has a problem that is turning things around, and we remember that the tea ceremony in Zen Buddhism represents that, it is a moment of peace and tranquility, of meditation, of living in the present moment.

Now how will he learn this lesson? Well, it can be in 3 ways:

-Thanks to Kagami's friendship, she is very calm, this will logically be when they are good friends and before he betrays her, surely the series will give us a moment of "best friends as sisters"

-She will learn this lesson in the Japan special, (we know that there is one preparing) it may be that they will travel together to Japan and there Marinette will attend these types of ceremonies.

-Thanks to Kagami's betrayal, yes or yes she will learn this lesson by force, we know that thanks to her actions, she will hit rock bottom and then be reborn, so one of the things she will learn is to find peace and live in the present.

Whatever it may be, Kagami is involved, which justifies why in S3 and S5 it was established that they would be friends and she would know his identity.

They prepare the ground for us, to strengthen that friendship and confidence in S6 and then in the end break it.

USES SEASON 1-5

} Mime S1:

a chapter where precisely the friendship between Marinette and Alya.

is the focus of attention, this does not speak a little about the relationship between Kagami and Marinette, she will occasionally fear how cold she is, but she will learn to know her better, which is reflected in the chapter Perfection S5.

So this doesn't talk about their strong friendship and breakup because we know how Alya behaves afterwards, right?

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WHO USE IT? ALYA AND MYLEN, this could confirm that Marinette will learn the lesson the 3rd way, due to Kagami's betrayal, this because it is Alya who drinks from her, but at her side is Mylen, who represents Marinette's own self-acceptance, Mylen is the carrier of the mouse, as is she, her colors are black and pink, Marinette's colors, a symbol of her dreams for fashion and self-love.

} Sapotis S2, 2 times, 1 at FU's house and another as a lucky charm.

In this chapter again the focus is Alya,

This chapter does not talk about that for S6 we will see how Kagami will enjoy being Ryuko,

but she will also be a great support for Marinette, since she knows the truth, however this excess of confidence, trusting her and calling her more than other superheroes, because they will be a team of 3, as we have seen in this chapter with Rena , it will make chat noir much more and that ship, little by little, there will be some flirting between them,

This trust will generate problems in the ladynoir, for example the secrets between them that the chatnoir will observe.

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WHO USE IT? MARINETTE AND FU, the fact that the teapot appears as a lucky charm is a sign that the solution to the problem with Kagami is Felix, why? because immediately afterwards it is FU who uses it, (THINKING THAT ALYA'S SISTERS HAVE THE CROWN SYMBOL, THEY ARE QUEENS, REFERRING TO KAGAMI) it is FU who she turns to for help, FU is Félix, she asks Félix for help, THE SOLUTION IS TO TRUST FELIX, NOT KAGAMI!!!!

} siren, S2

Although this chapter Alya is not the focus, she is an important part of the conflict with chatnoir.

This chapter confirms that the relationship with Ryuko and Ladybug is going to be conflictive for the ladynoir, (what we said above) because of the secrets, but not only that, there will also be Felix/Argos in this equation, of course both one as you know Ladybug's identity, this will make the 3 secretly more united, they may make plans to better protect Adrien now that it is known that he is senti etc..., but this will gradually make Chatnoir feel sidelined, no For nothing we have seen in the current show (in rocketear) that thanks to RENA LITERAL chat WAS LEFT SIDELINED.

so Felix will be forced by Ladybug's request to tell him part of the truth, which is senti, or that his father died as a villain as a lepidopterist, and so there is not so much distance between them, at least between Felix and Adrien, and This will lead to him also being told that he is a chatnoir (a fact that Félix probably already knows, since he can feel the amoks) we could see something like this in S6 ONWARDS:

Now, he won't tell him Ladybug's identity, which in some way won't solve the whole problem... but it will calm the waters.

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WHO USE IT? FU AND MARINETTE, Félix will be a great help to Marinette when it comes to taking care of Adrien as a sentiser and GENERALLY HELPFUL, they will talk about this issue or about her father's secret and the burden that this means FOR HER, and the will make the decision to tell him the truth with his permission, being his cousin and knowing him better, and thus know how he will react to this news, BECAUSE THEY ARE STRONG ISSUES AND HE MAY NOT REACT VERY WELL IF A BAD TIME IS CHOSEN, we see this in which IT IS FU WHO SERVES TEA TO MARINETTE and he says "there is always a time for everything" implying that these types of things are delicate and that you have to choose an appropriate moment to tell him, (probably Marinette is going to visit Félix to ask for advice and tell him everything that this is overwhelming him, keep secrets from Adrien and LITERALLY SERVE HER AND CALM HER AND TAKE A WEIGHT OFF OF HER)

} Robostus S2

In robostus the focus is on MAX AND MAKOB, THEIR ROBOT, which refers to the sentis, that is, FELIX.

This chapter could give us a clue as to how Adrien might react to the revelation that he is sentiser, I'll explain, through Max we are told a little about how Félix and Marinette are going to take care of Adrien, this can be seen in his initials, We know that Max is pure intelligence which includes both of them, Marinette and Felix, so who would be Markov, aha Adrien, so this is reaffirmed when the car in which Robostus drives is neon green and has the initials BB,

Let's remember that these elements are Adrien's reference, so can Adrien make a wish to be human? This leads to the next chilling point, Marko also represents Marinette and Kagami (MARKOV'S NAME HAS A "K" IN THE MIDDLE) which confirms that on the one hand, both Kagami and Marinette love Felix,

BUT ALSO THAT MARINETTE WILL BE A SENTI, THAT IS, SHE WILL LOSE HER HUMANITY, WHICH JUSTIFIES WHY, ARGOS WOULD TAKE HER PROTECTION VERY SERIOUSLY, I MEAN, A SENTI IS FRAGILE, IF YOU DETRIDE THE OBJECT WHERE THE AMOK IS FOUND BYE LIFE. In short, Marinette could lose her humanity because of Adrien. (BECAUSE WITH THIS FIGHT, I DON'T SEE NEITHER KAGAMI OR FELIX SUFFERING FOR BEING SORRY OR FOR NOT ACCEPTING THAT)

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WHO USE IT? WAYSS AND TIKKI, This confirms that THE main mission of Argos will be to protect and take care of MARINETTE, BECAUSE SHE WILL BE A SENTISER, HER LIFE WILL BE IN DANGER, IF HER AMOK IS NOT PROTECTED WELL, THIS IS CONFIRMED BECAUSE IT IS WAYSS WHO serves tikki tea, wayss represents protection, wayss is fu's kwami, fu is Felix, so Felix protects Marinette, and this he does both towards her and Ladybug, since the one who receives the drink is tikki, Ladybug's kwami, and the glasses are thimbles, sewing objects, elements that connect with marinette. but above all, THAT IS CONFIRMED WITH THIS:

Guys, I'm going to leave the post here since it's a lot to analyze, so this section, the section of THE TRAY WITH TEA CUP, I'm going to divide it into parts.

In the future, when I finish everything in the analysis of Jeremy Zag's video, I will upload a post with all the links and their parts, so that there are no problems.

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See you in future posts.

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[carpisuns]

14 and 16 for the WIP ask thingy

14. ladynoir breakup

i think this idea kinda morphed into something else that doesn’t really fit that title anymore lol but here’s a snippet:

16. chat noir gives good hugs

Thanks!

#tazildayah #wips game #wip #ask

[shameboree]

Hi! Kinda a random question but are there any songs that you associate with miraculous ladybug? ♡

YES!!! almost all of them are shippy, none of them are happy <:3c

i love you softly by barnaby bright is a REAL GOOD chat perspective of ladynoir

everything you want by vertical horizon YES IM DEADASS SERIOUS ABOUT THIS u can ONLY make fun of me if you acknowledge that i 100% absolutely am correct abt this being ladynoir chat perspective youre WELCOME

heartbreakfree by ji nilsson is LADYBUG PERSPECTIVE ladynoir

if i loved you by delta rae is another ladybug pov heh

headstart by jade bird is marinette side of adrinette

skin by kyla la grange marinette sad abt adrigami hours

if id known i loved her by delta rae is a rly good one for adrinette frm adrien Shes A Good Friend agreste pov but like reverse lovesquare angle where marinette has MOVED ON (to chat noir. because these kids are Dumbfucks)

vampire smile by kyla la grange MARIBLANC MARIBLANC MARIBLANC

the lament of eustace scrubb by the oh hellos CHAT BLANC

forsake the boy by the widows bane is ALSO chat blanc w also a ladyblanc angle

panic cord by gabrielle aplin is a lukanette breakup song

FINALLY MY FAV SUCKERPUNCH TO THE GUT MOOD MUSIC WHEN I WANNA THINK ABT HOW FUCKIN BAD ADRIENS LIFE SUX AND HOW BANANAS GABRIEL IS:

going up high by barnaby bright. gabe fucking sucks i love that guy i think this a great mood piece for him justifying his actions while also absolving himself of reaponsibility

BONUS

alesund by sun kil moon THIS ONE IS CHEATING bc i only associate it w adriens pov of my BAD VIBES AU but i am including it anyway bc also its a good song

#this is probably too many. i only think about Ships okay. #i love my blorbos to kiss or be sad about wanting to kiss #anyway. ANYWAY!!! #u can really tell i listen to just a few artists and i listen to them A Lot #kels talks #miraculous ladybug