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obscure-entity · 1 year
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made my own bwird
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wind-tied · 1 month
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raptor-tooth · 3 months
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Doodled my little laten that I play on Path of Titans!
He's a feathery menace to literally everything with a pulse. No ankles are safe.
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si-nequal-is · 4 months
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Latenivenatrix and Stenonychosaurus, the former body of 'Troodon' from Dinosaur park formation. Although I drawn them as separate animal, a study by Thomas Cullen argues about Latenivenatrix is actually junior synonym of Stenonychosaurus.
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pimsri · 11 months
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Some dinos I've been drawing for commissions!
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aveniastra · 4 months
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Concepts for different raptor species in my dinosaur side-project. Dromaeosaurids and Troodontids.
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cleverbunnycompany · 2 months
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This months prehistoric sticker club rewards! Featuring Centrosaurus, Nuralagus Rex and Latenivenatrix!
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acca1ia · 3 months
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my other two mains for PoT
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reginaldubel · 5 months
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dinovember day 27: latenivenatrix (animal crackers)
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alphynix · 2 years
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It Came From The Wastebasket #05: The Trouble With Troodon
Troodontids were small bird-like theropod dinosaurs, lightly built with slender legs and sickle-shaped "raptor" claws on the second toes of their feet. They had fairly big brains proportional to their body size, rather like modern birds, and their large forward-facing eyes had good depth perception. Owl-like asymmetrical ears in some species gave them a very keen sense of hearing, suggesting they may have been nocturnal hunters using sound to pinpoint the location of small prey.
The original specimen of the namesake of the group, Troodon formosus, was a serrated tooth discovered in the 1850s, about 77 million years old and originating from the Late Cretaceous Judith River Formation fossil beds in Montana, USA. It was so little to work with that it was initially mistaken for a lizard tooth, then during the 20th century it was recognized as belonging to a dinosaur and spent time classified as a megalosaurid, then a pachycephalosaur, then finally as a small theropod similar to the Mongolian Saurornithoides.
In the late 1980s it was merged together with multiple other troodontids (including Stenonychosaurus of speculative "dinosauroid" fame), and since Troodon had been the first of all of them to be named it took priority as the genus name.
And then for a while every single Late Cretaceous troodontid specimen from North America was also lumped into Troodon, turning it into a wastebasket taxon.
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The problem was that all these troodontids came from locations separated by thousands of kilometers and millions of years of time, and it's unlikely that they all actually represented just one single species. But they were only known from rare fragmentary remains, making distinguishing them from each other difficult, and the original Troodon tooth didn't really have any distinctive features either – it turns out most troodontid teeth all look exactly the same!
It was becmoning increasingly dubious whether Troodon was even a valid name at all, and during the 2010s several paleontologists began trying to sort the mess out. The old names Pectinodon and Stenonychosaurus were revived, and some 'Troodon' fossils were also split off and given completely new names, becoming Albertavenator and Latenivenatrix*.
* Although Latenivenatrix might not actually be distinct enough from Stenonychosaurus to justify having a separate name.
As of 2022, Troodon itself is now in a sort of taxonomic limbo, with some paleontologists abandoning it as a dubious name while others are still arguing in favor of continuing to use it. The name could potentially be properly rescued if the original tooth can be clearly linked to better fossil material, letting Troodon take over priority again from one of the other better-established troodontids, or by defining a new type species similar to what happened with Iguanodon.
…But with how incredibly generic that tooth is, both of those options would be very difficult.
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dianafirai · 4 months
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I really like dromaeosaurids and pterosaurs, even though the latter are not dinosaurs. The quick color sketches were a lot of fun!)
Below are my very old drawings, which are about two years old. The first one holds a memory of the Path of Titans demo, as I happened to catch the big migration. It was a fascinating journey, which is what the art is dedicated to.
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pontiikii · 4 months
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some dinos :) latenivenatrix and utahraptor
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sleepyhollo · 10 months
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Red the Sea Beast and Noelle the Latenivenatrix! I play PoT quite often, and one of my favourite characters I have ever played is Red, a female Spinosaurus inspired by the beast of the same name from The Sea Beast. I played her on a heavy realism server which I do not play on anymore (due to certain circumstances and many controversies they have created for themselves -.-) and she used to live in a lake where a murder of Latens held territory. One such Laten was Noelle, who lived a life of heartbreak. The two formed a strange friendship over months and months, so I made a little tribute piece to them. I also did lots of writing for Reds story, which I formatted from the perspective of researchers making Wildlife Logs. I MIGHT end up copying them from my prewriting over to here, though i still haven’t decided. I will also most likely post art of another one of my PoT characters, one of my beloved Deinonychus.  Sadly I think I’m leaving the Arcana phase now, but it was amazing to be back and I hope I come back to it sooner than later. Them in the game itself <3
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anomallite · 1 year
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A Cretaceous Christmas Carcass
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doorbloggr · 1 year
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There is no dinosaur named Troodon
Sunday 23/4/23
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Alaskan Troodontid - Julio Lacerda @paleoart
A brief sorry for not writing for a while. Had a lot on my mind and also just struggled to get that jump-start on my creativity again. But after having a bit of nerd-out at a friend recently, I have a dinosaur related thing to talk about today.
For anyone knee-deep into dinosaur stuff, they'd know about the popular stereotyping around small meat eating dinosaurs. The likes of "Raptors" are often portrayed as problem solvers; coordinated, and clever. And although most modern birds have more developed brains than extinct non-bird dinosaurs, the exception of Troodon is often brought up.
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Troodon - @/the_meep_lord on Twitter
Troodon is a name that dino-nerds will bring up as a notable example of smart dinosaurs. It was one of the dinosaurs most closely related to birds, it had large eyes for its head, and in fact the largest brain to body size ratio of any non-avian dinosaur. But what many dino-nerds might struggle with, is that most palaeontologists believe that the genus Troodon is not valid.
Now when I first heard this information, my reaction was likely the same to yours reader. What do mean the genus isn't valid? Ask anyone what Troodon looks like, we have a very clear picture. How can we have full skeletons of a dinosaur that didn't exist? How come we have a significant clade of dinosaurs named after it (Troodontidae)? It is a dinosaur that even had unfortunate older stereotypes in its design (pictured below: the olive green smooth skinned Troodon that inspired the ugly Dinosauroid speculative biology thing).
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llustration of Troodon - De Agostini Library (unable to find artist)
The issue, as I'll try to explain, was an unfortunate game of guesswork and generalisation across the Palaeontological community.
Discovery and Naming
In 1855, a single fossil teeth was found in Montana, USA. This was a particularly jagged tooth, and seemed to belong to some form of carnivorous or at least omnivorous reptile. It was named Troodon formosus meaning "wounding tooth, well formed". This tooth was originally classified as belonging to a lizard, so the genus Troodon was born.
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Troodon holotype drawing, 1860
In 1901, it was decided that Troodon's tooth belonged to a dinosaur, within the group Megalosauridae. But as I've discussed previously, Megalosaurus was a wastebasket taxon, and other experts wanted to place Troodon somewhere more definitive. In 1924, Troodon was classified as a relative of dome-headed dinosaurs such as Pachycephalosaurus and Stegoceras. And since Troodon pre-dated many dinosaurs in this group, the family was at the time referred to as Troodontidae.
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"Sandy", Pachycephalosaurus specimen at Royal Ontario Museum
Troodon as a Pachycephalosaur lasted until 1945, when Troodon was finally reclassified as carnivorous dinosaur, and the dome-headed dinosaurs were renamed under the title Pachycephalosauridae.
Other Troodontids
For a long time, the issue with Troodon was that because it's teeth were one of a kind, they did not know how the rest of it's body looked. The first dinosaur to be classified under Troodontidae that wasn't named just for teeth was a dinosaur called Stenonychosaurus (meaning 'narrow claw lizard").
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Stenonychosaurus, Nix Illustration @alphynix
The original specimen of Stenonychosaurus did not have teeth, but it's close relative Saurornithoides did. And once both specimens had more complete specimens collected, they were classified under the group Saurornithoididae in the 1980s. But soon, scientists found similarities between the teeth of Saurornithoididae dinosaurs, and that of Troodon. The Principle of Priority states that earlier names for taxon are more valid taxonomically, so Saurornithoididae was considered synonymous with Troodontidae, and all specimens previously referred to as Stenonychosaurus were now called Troodon.
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"Troodon" Specimen, Perot Museum, Texas
Most of the facts we now think of as Troodon were originally attributed to Stenonychosaurus, and many other North American Troodontids were considered as possible synonyms of Troodon, but this received some push back.
The idea that most of North America's Troodontids all belonging to one taxa was questioned. So, as had happened to other wastebasket taxon prior, Troodon was reanalysed.
In the late 2000s, a Troodontid called Pectinodon was separated from the Troodon genus and considered its own taxon. In the mid-late 2010s, some material originally classified under Stenonychosaurus, and then Troodon, was given its own genus, Latenivenatrix.
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Latenivenatrix sculpture, @bookrat
Was "Troodon" really Troodon?
So the question of "What is a Troodontid?" had a very clear answer now. They were small to medium Theropod dinosaurs with narrow skulls, front facing eyes, larger braincases, and often restored with sickleclaws and feathers, similar to the Dromeosaurs. But the question came back to the Genus Troodon itself. We had sufficient material of many other Troodontids to tell what most of their body looked like, but the "holotype" of Troodon was still just one tooth.
In case you need a refresher on the terminology, a holotype is the first fossil a new species is named for. For another fossil to be named the same species, it needs to be identified as similar enough to the holotype. Holotypes are often fragmentary, it is common practice to fill in the full skeleton with details from similar relatives, but you still need enough details to identify who your relatives are.
The holotype of Troodon was so fragmentary, (again one bone), that it has been referred to as undiagnostic. Terminology lesson again, that means you CANNOT tell what it belongs to.
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The fragmentary Holotype of the more recent Troodontid "Talos sampsoni", was almost complete in comparison to Troodon's. Credit: Scott Hartman
The Troodon tooth was *similar* enough to Stenonychosaurus that they were proposed to be close relatives, but there were differences enough for there to be initial scepticism at their synonymy. The original explanation proposed that the Troodon tooth came from an individual who was older, or in a different part of the mouth to teeth found from Stenonychosaurus, but this was never scientifically scrutinised, just proposed. The whole absorbing of Stenonychosaurus into Troodon was based on heresy that had never been scientifically tested.
So in 2017, almost universally, it was decided that Stenonychosaurus be separated from Troodon as its own valid dinosaur. Almost all material that had at that point been assigned to Troodon were reassigned to Stenonychosaurus or Latenivenatrix. And now the genus Troodon had a problem. If all known fossil material came down to a single, very undiagnostic tooth, then what WAS this dinosaur actually like?
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Stenonychosaurus - Anuperator (deviantart)
The current take is that there was no dinosaur known as Troodon in the technical sense. The tooth may not even belong to a Troodontid. But since Troodontidae has become an established group with established diagnostic traits, we still get to keep the name, for the group at least.
Troodontids Now
Troodontidae is still a very popular mainstream group of dinosaurs, but the names Stenonychosaurus, Saurornithoides, and Latenivenatrix are not as well known as Troodon. Many recent paleoart projects, particularly animations have depicted Troodon-like dinosaurs. But for scientific accuracy, they often decide to use the catch-all term "Troodontid", so audiences know what dinosaur we're talking about without being unscientific.
The YouTube Animation series "Dinosauria" features an episode on Arctic North American Dinosaurs. The main character is referred to as an Alaskan Troodon. This dinosaur has been originally proposed as a larger subspecies of Troodon described from larger teeth found in Alaska. As of writing, this Troodontid still does not an official description or scientific name.
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In the 4th episode of the Apple TV+ series, Prehistoric Planet, we again see a dinosaur probably based on the Alaskan Troodon, this time just referred to as a "Troodontid".
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In both pieces of media, the Troodontids engage in intelligent problem solving, but nothing on the level of what Jurassic Park would engage in. In Dinosauria, the Troodontid uses vocal mimicry. In Prehistoric Planet, it uses burning sticks to spread a wildfire. Both behaviours that different modern birds engage in, but may have been a stretch for what non-avian dinosaurs were capable of.
Thanks for Reading
If you are still a bit confused as to what this all meant, that's OK, it took me a while to get me head around it too. I encourage readers to do their own research and come to their own conclusion as to what this all means.
If you did feel my explanations helped you learn something new today, please reblog and spread the word. Of course add on your own commentary to the reblogs if you have insight that would better clarify the topic.
Thankyou for reading, and I'll hopefully have something else to post on here soon.
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notamirelurk · 9 months
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Been playing a lot of Path of Titans on a realism/rp server and this lil man has survived so many things that i thought "fuck it, you're an oc now" So say hi to "Chirps", he's a Latenivenatrix
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