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#more kandreil content is all i ask
aftgficrec · 1 year
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hello :)))) i think you all are wonderful
can you rec any fics similar to “odd eye” by tdashshirts because it’s my favorite fic and i love how andrew is characterized in it and just the dynamic between andrew, kevin, and neil at the end. just like them knowing each other really well and having each other even when the rest of the world doesn’t understand. (it doesn’t *have* to be kandreil it could just be besties for life vibes)
We’ve been wrestling with this ask for a long time, as there are two distinct aspects to Odd Eye that do not always overlap. We hope these fics have the outsider Andrew with strong Neil and Kevin relationship vibe you seek. -A + F
andreil/kandreil with andrew having a bad day here
foxes revise opinion of Andrew here
kandreil as childhood friends here
bffs kevin and andrew here
 ‘think i'm looking at a long night…’ here
‘Flavors of Fall’ here (complete)
‘does the dog die at the end?’ here (complete)
‘creature of habit’ here
‘Hold on to Me’ here
‘to derail the mind of mine’ here
‘like someone you've chosen’ here
‘white soap’ and ‘Bloom Where You're Planted’ here
‘never an empty room’ (kandreil) here
‘As Normal As Normal Can Be (For Them)’ here
Referenced in the ask:
Odd Eye by tdashshirts [Rated T, 16394 Words, Complete, 2021]
Andrew spends most of his childhood thinking he is a psychopath. He is not. Andrew is, and always will be, just Andrew.
tw: self harm, tw: implied/referenced rape/noncon, tw: blood, tw: implied/referenced child abuse, tw: ptsd, tw: mental health slur, tw: violence, tw: panic attacks, tw: depressive episode, tw: involuntary outing, tw: homophobia
Easy relationship w/ Kevin:
I know it's warmer where you are (And it's safer by your side) by Greenfallleaves [Rated G, 1096 words, Complete 2023]
Part 2 of Queerplatonic Kandreil
There is no plot, just Kandreil hanging out in their dorm, vibes and platonic cuddling.
Minyard-Josten-Day Rivalry by makebelieveanything [Rated G, 10454 words, Complete 2022]
Kevin's been living with Andrew and Neil for years, and recently, his roommates decided to drag him into their media rivalry charade without consulting him, which leaves the three of them to figure out what that means for their collective future. It has a bigger impact than any of them expected.
i.e. The story of how Kevin Day finds out he’s had two platonic life partners this entire time. Including funny headline blurbs, Kevin suffering the rivalry in his head because he refuses to comment in public and Neil and Andrew's canonical inability to communicate with words and hoping people just understand them anyways.
Andrew’s characterization:
Trust Fall (And Welcoming Arms) by SpangleBangle [Rated E, 84557 Words, Complete, 2017]
Life goes on after the Foxes win the championship, and for Andrew and Neil it's uncharted territory with only each other for guides. Maybe it's time to put away some of those hard edges, and learn how to touch more softly, and speak more honestly. And if they falter, they have their family to help them get back on their feet.
tw: scars, tw: knives, tw: homophobia, tw: panic attacks, tw: implied/referenced rape/noncon, tw: implied/referenced self harm, tw: discussions of self harm, tw: implied/referenced child abuse, tw: implied/referenced eating disorders, tw: depression, tw: dissociation, tw: flashbacks, tw: violence, tw: implied/referenced drug abuse, tw: explicit sexual content
i'm turning inside out (can you still recognize me?) by cemetxry [Rated G, 3666 words, Complete 2022]
For a long while, Andrew only allowed himself to stim when he was alone.
Unmasking was fucking hard. He had masked for so many years that Andrew didn’t even fully realize how tired and tense his body was, how much it was aching for release. For years and years he would only stim in private, locked away in the bathroom and allowing himself to stutteringly flap his hands in the fleeting moments he could manage alone.
But after years of effort, he's finally beginning to heal, and he thinks he might be ready to share that with the person he cares for the most: Neil.
tw: implied/referenced child abuse
Colder months series by butallmystars [Rated M, 3 complete fics, series incomplete]
part 1: April after all [2205 words, Complete 2022]
There’s something feeding off Andrew’s ribs that he can’t put a name to and it chains him to his bed.
tw: implied/referenced self harm, tw: implied/referenced csa
part 2: And it was May [3608 words, Complete 2022] 
Andrew doesn’t have the words to respond today. It’s all chewed glass, vowels digging fractured shards into the delicate skin of his mouth.
tw: implied/referenced csa
part 3: June bug (and other small nuisances) [2867 words, Complete 2022]
Nobody warned Andrew that he would be twenty-three years old and still fighting through the clotting fear in his throat for the seven-year-old boy who knew danger before he could put a name to it.
tw: nightmares, tw: panic attacks
Normal as Pie by NikFriel [Rated T, 4313 words, incomplete, last updated Oct 2022]
Andrew's life with autism. From the foster care system until after he graduates.
tw: child abuse
Art
characters that have caught most of my attention art by @erlie
Duality animation by @c-dragon-art
I love this trio) art by @lolooos-world
night practice crew 🦊 art by @colourofmagic
it’s that one kiss meme with kandreil art by @rainbowd00dles
as requested, more of these three! art by @kryptidfox on twitter
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officialgleamstar · 11 months
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maybeee V, X, and Z? :]
fandom meme :D
hiiii lex! thank you !!!!
V - 3 OTPs from 3 different fandoms
well i answered my dndads one earlier, so thats cheating. lets see, what fandoms am i in LOL (me <- guy who hopped quickly from a years long hyperfix to my current dndads hyperfix so all my other interests are mush in my head).
Dimension 20 - Evan Kelmp/K "Dream" Tanaka <3 I absolutely adooore them and it makes me sad there's not more content for them!!!
All For the Game - Andrew/Neil/Kevin !!! kandreil my guys of all time. literally a life-changing ship for me. i think about them on a weekly basis at minimum
Young Justice - I'll be honest, I did not watch past the second season. BUT for the start of YJ/Batman in general! Nightwing/Kid Flash! I literally have fan art I drew in high school of them on my wall still LOL
X - top 5-10 characters who are yoUR PRECIOUS BABIES AND YOU WILL DIE DEFENDING THEM
oh my god UHHHH
NICKY HEMMICK (aftg) HAS NEVER DONE ANYTHING WRONG. EVER.
Carol Wilson (dndads) <3 no elaboration needed.
Ylfa Snorgelsson (dimension 20) is my daughter and is always correct when she chooses to kill someone
Beverly Toegold V (naddpod)! literally the epitome of this question to me. hes my precious baby, my actual son, he has grown and developed from all of his mistakes and hes turning into such a lovely young man and i am just so proud of him-!
Erlin Kindleaf (naddpod) and while we're talking about beverly! obligatory erlin mention because he lives in my head rent free. boy i love you so much.
Blue (this is how you lose the time war) <333 ive only had blue for like, 50 pages so far but if anything happens to her, i am going to tear the universe apart. i know something is definitely going to happen to her but i need to live in obliviousness for now
grandma highforge (drawtectives) is actually perfect. actually just count 7 through 10 as all three of the drawtectives because they can do no wrong in my eyes
Z - Just ramble about something fan-related, go go go (prompts optional but encouraged)
i need you to know that youve sent me the most impossible questions for me specifically to answer. my mind goes blank whenever i get asked any questions like these. this isnt a negative, im having fun and this is exactly what i need rn, but i need you to know LMAO
more of a general fandom thing rather than anything specific, but i reeeally wanna get into fan-binding. i talk about this sometimes, but i actually specialized in bookbinding in school, and it makes me sad that i dont, like, have a reason to do it anymore? so i think getting into fan-binding would be so fun! plus i see some of the books people make and i am just BLOWN AWAY. ive always been very, like, utilitarian i suppose, with my books? my professors always say i make them plain, lol, so i love love love seeing the more inventive covers and bindings that people do!!! i really need to push my craft some more, so i need to like, find fanfiction to print out and bind. i have one in mind already, but its for a fandom i left, so it would probably function more as a gift for a friend than for me ^-^
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I'm always fluctuating between "their relationship evolves to Neil being like Kevin's brother and Andrew his (unadmittedly) best friend" and "Kandreil should've been endgame and Nora was a coward"
oh, which one do I prefer?
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i-did · 3 years
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hey! I hope those aftg asks aren’t getting tiring lol but I was wondering if you had any thoughts on the recent fandom treatment of Kevin, which seems to be mainly seeing him as a victim mistreated both in canon by the other foxes & by nora himself? Like I remember in the earlier days of aftg (like maybe around 2016? 2017??) there definitely wasn’t this kind of focus or view of Kevin & I feel like he was treated with somewhat more nuance then? And this could be related to the growing hate for Nora since then but you don’t see people say the same things about the other foxes?? This is a very messy ask lol but I’m genuinely so confused about this trend esp because Kevin seems to be the only fox (as far ive seen anyways) that people are holding up as a victim w/o any nuance
I have a lot of fun answering these, I just sometimes take a minute to get to them lol
Okay so I definitely know what you're talking about with the Kevin thing. The first major factor is that AFTG has finished coming you years ago, and Nora has not actively engaged with the fandom since 2016. I came around into AFTG in 2017 as a reader, and looking at the fanart. Mostly by then you see the race headcanons locked into place and the beginning of the split between fanon and canon. Without more canon, fanon content starts to develop as whoever is more influential the fan creators (fic authors, fan artists) start to do things that trend. As a time passes in a fandom, it tends to split into niches, people who see things a certain way and want to see more of that follow each other and gain followers who agree with them. 
There is definitely a Kevin centric niche that thinks those things. I don’t think there was as much focus in general on Kevin back in 2017, but I also was pretty new. But there were no extreme Anti-Andrew fans, back then it was “you are either a fan of Nicky or a fan of Aaron.” People didnt have “dni choking apologists” on their blogs. 
I think choking discourse is a good example of the rise of Kevin. Andrew must fall for Kevin to rise. There are kandreil fans that genuinely like all three, and some ace/aro Kevin fans that like him just as he is, but a lot of Kevin centric content I see now on tumblr is about how Andrew is the real villain of AFTG for choking Kevin, despite Kevin violently choking Neil in book 1. 
Back in 2018 they weren't pitted against the other and I think the whole “you can only like one character or the other” thing is stupid imo. I like Nicky more than Aaron, but I still think they're both interesting characters. Ive seen a lot of “Kevin was only a victim” takes, and in fact got cyber bullied for a while by some people who thought I was too mean to Kevin in some of my HC by implying he also had some power in the nest and likely hurt others, and that he feels guilt over it. :/ but there is also a similar niche with “you can't blame Aaron for his homophobia, his mom was abusive, and she likely made him that way.”
It's the most similar discourse trend I've seen to the Kevin discourse. It’s a similar lack of nuance, and I think people inflict it their favorite character because they don't want to have a ‘problematic fav.’ Aaron is canonly homophobic, Neil says directly after him and Andrew ‘come out’ to the others, that he was waiting to see the same grief Aaron gave Nicky over his sexuality. It doesn't mean he can't be also a good character or a person someone likes, in fact well written characters have dimensions and flaws. 
Which that whole mess is similar to the whole Kevin thing. I think people fall in love with the idea of Nora’s characters, or maybe the fanon characters–but not the real characters. Which is also why they say the author hates them, because they got written to do bad things or not be in the story as much, they defend these characters as if they were real people who need defending, need to be saved from being erased. These characters become “their character.”
I think this also happens because people kin characters and identify with them a lot, so when I said “Kevin was in a position in power in the nest too, even in second place” and then receive threats for how I personally hurt someone who's a CSA survivor because of my Kevin HC I'm like (o – o). I think these people project so hard onto Kevin and design him in their mind, they feel as if character flaw HCs or depictions of Kevin struggling and being mean are personal insults, or at least very personally insulting. And I don't want to sound like an ass, but like my Kevin isn't the same as their Kevin, my Kevin is my Kevin. 
I see skinny art of Andrew and art of Neil as white or ginger, these don’t align with my personal HC’s about them, but like that's what I chose to go with. Nora uses language that makes me believe Neil has dark auburn hair, but if people want him to be ginger idc. In canon he was written with the intent to be white, I ignore that because I think him being mixed adds more depth to his character (as well as me being tired of only white mlm, and have updated my reading list). Andrew wasn’t imagined by Nora to be fat either, but I HC him as like a mini muscle bear instead of Toby Hemingway. 
I keep the canon intent in mind to remind myself how she actually saw them and how that can color canon and how other people are allowed to see Neil as white and Andrew as skinny. Like I understand why people get annoyed over other peoples hc’s, I feel similarly sometimes. But like at the end of the day, you just gotta move out of that fandom niche and into a new one or just ignore the post.
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liaisun · 3 years
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I am begging u tell me more about the streamer bfs au
HELLO KICKS :D thank u 4 asking <3 i ended up scrolling back thru a gazillion messages but it was absolutely worth it. please allow me 2 present the babes
streamer bfs is a very self indulgent kandreil au, pure fluff absolutely 0 plot in here. they live in a Streamer Content House™ with the other foxes. kandrew r dating and neil is in a queer platonic relationship w them !! there's two parts of it right now, the first being just streaming shenanigans and interactions and then further actual relationship development with neil :]
SO BACKSTORY !! we have andrew: a complete weirdo but likeable abt it? just a chill dude doing his own thing while gaming. sometimes he codes too (here is a beloved fic with absolutely feral robot maker/youtuber!drew). his channel name is nyandrew, it never gets Big big but its stable enough that andrew can do it for fun. he has The Cat Ear Headphones which he never acknowledges the existence of but still wears every single stream. king knocked over his camera once and that 10 second clip became his channel trailer forevermore
there's always someone in the back of his streams just . sleeping?  it's kinda hard to see, no one knows who it is and andrew never addresses it so everyone just accepts it as another quirk of his lives... until one day andrew streams earlier than normal and halfway through the door creaks open and they hear "...babe? i couldn't-- oh. can i come in" cue absolute CHAOS within the chat bc WHO IS THIS !!!!
this person is the one and only kevin day. he's a college student but lives at the house and usually pops up in the other's vids. he was helping dan (who started this whole operation) with moving in. that day he hung out with the foxes, who convinced him to stay for their first day sleepover celebration and then he never left :]
neil is a faceless streamer and a generally funky dude . he started out with silent walkthroughs/speedruns of puzzle games, and now he plays whatever while keeping up the most bizarre and unrelated commentary. he also runs the foxes' podcast. his 'quiplash/jackbox with friends' vids (prompt game where everyone votes on their fav answer) are his most popular because he always has the most brutal and funny answers and he's in top 3 every single time
he only shows up on camera in the other's streams as a hand or legs but once a week MINIMUM the mysterious neil comes into andrew's room and says "release the roombas" and then u hear meowing (this is also where the channel trailer comes from)
kev's always sleeping on lives because andrew streams at 2am (insomnia things)... kev has night terrors and sleeps better with someone else in the room, but andrew can't really sleep with another person on the bed so this system works 4 them
there's this mythical clip of neil coming in and like collapsing on top of kevin sleeping on the floor. they say something 2 each other and neil laughs and then leaves AND IT HAS TORN THE INTERNET APART FOR YEARRSSSSS nyandrew's biggest career drama is nobody knows what's happening between them
andrew is also generally such a gremlin about answering questions u will never get a straight answer from this man ever . and on this topic he is the Worst. (referring 2 kevin) "who's ur friend?" he's not my friend.   "okay. what's the name of the man in the room with you?" very funny guys. that prank won't work there is no one behind me . "u said u were an only child" i never said that. i said i grew up an only child    and so on
people make compilations like "andrew minyard (nyandrew) holding his bf for 10 mins straight (ft. neil)" [in which neil also holds said bf and chat exploded] "andrew ignoring chat for 5 mins straight" "5 minutes of nyandrew lifting anything but weights (ft. his bf)"
there's also my personal fav "nyandrew (ñandrew) cursing in spanish for 2 mins straight" yes andrew speaks spanish. the clips are from a stream he did with nicky and when nicky tries 2 mention an embarrassing moment andrew says "ah tienes cojones... él tiene cojones sí mi gente" (you have some balls.. he's got balls right guys) and nicky goes quiet SO QUICK KSJSKDKF. andrew's not Family Friendly but he definitely doesn't curse in english/express himself like he will in spanish (2nd language emotional things<3) and chat is FLOORED
this vid at (6:50-7:50) is drunk kev professing his love then saying "okay let's go :]" trying 2 get them all 2 cuddle and andreil are like  . Kevin We Are On Live Right Now. + from 3:00-6:50 is them describing each fox in one word and trying 2 match answers but kevneil start arguing about their answers and andrew purposefully says different ones to rile them up
when neil actually sticks around in a live - he's wearing a hoodie with the strings taut so it covers his face mostly. kev's passed out on andrew, andreil r bantering and flirting. andrew's like "i gotta go to the bathroom" and he just. hoists kevin up and puts him in neil's lap instead and NONE OF THEM BLINK and kev just curls a hand in neil's hoodie, looks up at him and hes like *squints* "ur hiding?" in a sleepy tone and neil's like ":] u don't like the look?" when andrew comes back he brushes neil's neck and all 3 of them keep casually talking LIKE NOTHING HAPPENED and chat is literally unreadable. it is going insane
in regards 2 ur post about lap sitting these 3 are EXACTLY like this tiktok. *caresses head* "can u stay for one game..." like !!!!!!!!!!!! i am gone i am deceased... it is them. kevin is the main lap stealer between them (imagining kev's 6'1 self curling into a ball 2 fit in the chair with either of them. sparks joy) and he is super clingy while andreil have little gestures like neil slinging his legs over andrew's on the couch. he sits upside down and andrew steadies him when neil starts to slide off. neil tries to go for a run at like 5am after staying up all night and andrew catches him in the kitchen, all bleary after a live and shoves him into a beanbag. (if he sits on top of him to make him stay and they have an intense mental conversation with unwavering eye contact then nobody's around to prove it)
at the end of the day (night? morning? what is time to them) they're tired and the walls and online personas are down. they stay up talking or sitting in silence, all squished together on a mattress or sprawled around the tv or listening to low music in the car.
and lastly, first kiss things:
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jexnmcrexu · 5 years
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Hello, this is a very random ask, but thank you so much for being such a staunch, reliable kandreil fan in the aftg fandom. I’m literally parched for kandreil content because it’s like I’m consuming and re-consuming it over and over, plus I LOVE your analyses of the kandreil dynamic and I always come back to yours too. I’d love to just hardcore fangirl over kandreil with you my guy because DAMN i am so far gone with these three fools
My heart just went all WHOOOSH with this???? I would love to fangirl about them with you as well! And I feel so honored omg?? I’ve been wanting to do a more in-depth analysis but I haven’t found the time :((( but ahhh thank you SO MUCH for this ask, it brightened my night!!
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lillyevanssss · 5 years
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okay so for y’all tfc/aftg fans, have you ever considered jean/neil/andrew? because i hadn’t until i saw a fic with this dynamic in the andreil tag, and i didn’t even get to reading it because i needed to think about it on my own and make my own headcanons and stuff. but. it makes so much sense?? i mean we don’t know much about jean from canon (and i’ve tried to avoid nora’s extra content because it always ends Badly when i try to follow what the author says after the release of the books, cough, jkr, cough) but from the hc’s i’ve made for myself and the portrayals i’ve read in fics and stuff, he would fit perfectly with andrew and neil?? like, no offense to kandreil (i enjoy that too), but jean would fit them so so so much better than kevin? i always think about what would happen if jean joined the foxes instead of the trojans (even tho i loooove my son jeremy) he’d fit well with andrew & neil? i don’t think jean will ever forgive kevin for leaving him (even tho jean knows it’s his own fault. he just wanted someone to take care of him for once, you know?) but i feel like him & neil would actually bond over the time neil was in the nest. really. i know it sounds weird but think about it. andrew hates jean (obviously) but he knows jean didn’t have a choice (otherwise andrew would’ve killed him the moment he saw jean) so he leaves him be. jean tries to apologize to neil but neil the martyr josten won’t have it, ofc, and i have this hc that they already have an existing dynamic between them (remember “jean will help you if you help him” even tho neil didn’t see that, he still made it happen to some extent.). anyway. i digress. the point is, jean and neil connect/forgive each other. jean is grateful for what neil has done for him and neil is soft af (come at me i’ll fight you but he also has a thing for lost causes) so of course he forgives jean and they bond etc., etc. jean has a crush on neil (of course he does) and he can’t, you know, really pursue it because andrew fucking minyard, need i say more? and andrew is observant af so obviously he notices and he’s jealous but he’s also like “this is nothing if you want to do sth with him i’m not gonna stop you” @ neil and neil is like whaaat and andrew is like of course you didn’t notice. how did i end up with a dumbass like you. (cue neil “i thought this was nothing”.) so. neil is intrigued because despite all the other times andrew has told him this (aka every time someone hits on him, even tho neil keeps saying ”i don’t swing”), this time he is actually a teeny tiny bit interested in jean in that way. so he talks to andrew. (that boy has no shame, you hear me?) “i want to try this, but i don’t want what we have to change.” “so it won’t.” so yeah. that’s how jean/neil happens. (jean is very suspicious of how neil is still with andrew, but unlike the other foxes, he actually understands andreil when neil explains their thing to him.) ofc, this makes jean really really interested in exactly what makes andrew minyard tick, and he starts watching him. like, really watching him. so of course andrew’s attention is piqued, and he’s like? oookay (also jean is hot and no one said he couldn’t look back, also neil doesn’t mind.) ((neil is actually really happy.)) (((the other foxes are very confused when andrew and jean start disappearing together instead of andrew and neil. they still don’t know about jean and neil.))) jean doesn’t know much about andrew’s history other than what he knows from riko and the media after the whole drake thing, but he knows how to listen and that’s good enough for now, until when andrew is ready to open up to him.
okay imma stop but if you wanna talk more about it hit me up in my ask box or dm.
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aftgficlibrary · 6 years
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Hiya, I don't know if this has been asked before but I'm looking for any andreil fics where Kevin is more than just a background character and is part of the fic and story like he is in canon but that aren't kandreil. I hope that makes sense! Thank you, I love this blog!
heyo! so here are a few that I could find that I think you’d enjoy-Rachel
it’s a night for running (away from your problems and possibly the law) by Elysabeth (G | 2,587 | 1/1)
Kevin and Neil learn to be normal college students. It may involve trespassing and almost getting stuck in a window.
stability by undertow (cendal) (T | Incomplete | 1/?)
“Wait,” Andrew interrupts. “Let’s rewind. You’re writing love songs as a competition?”
“Kevin tricked me into it,” Neil mutters into his coffee.
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In which Neil Josten’s comfortable, predictable life is shaken up by the introduction of love songs, especially because his is meant to be about Andrew Minyard, the barista who manages to write everything but ‘Neil’ onto his cups and who has, for the past week, been making horse jokes at him because he found out that Neil eats oatmeal. Neil doesn’t think that he can write this song about anyone else.
Remedial Chaos Theory by sugarlessgum (T | Incomplete | 3/?)
Neil had no desire to attend community college, or any college for that matter. He would’ve been content getting an online degree and never setting foot outside the safety of his uncle’s home again. But Stuart refused to let him become a hermit so young, which is why Neil somehow found himself in a study group with six other disgruntled students at Greendale.
fugue in red by hiraethia (M | Incomplete | 7/?)
the first time andrew saw neil, he was playing in the middle of a concert hall, bleeding red.
(all neil has is his mother’s old violin, all andrew has is the cello that he hates. but maybe now they’ll have each other).
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aftgexchange · 6 years
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Round up: Winter 2017
Aaaaand here is the round up for all the gifts in the Winter 2017 Exchange.   Thanks so much to everyone who participated, and special thanks for all my pinch hitters for being SUPER ON IT.   If you haven’t already, please go reblog/like/reply/comment on your gift and any other gifts you enjoy. We’ve had an amazing range of pairings, characters and content so there’s bound to be something for you.   Hope you’ve had a good holiday season so far, and that you enjoy what’s left of it!   ART (Aaron & Andrew) winter illness bonding by @communistfireworks (Andreil) Pride & Prejudice AU by @broship-addict (Andreil) Christmas domesticity with kids by @foxhole-court-girl (Andreil) cuddles under the Christmas tree by @startingstriker-psu (Andreil) hot cocoa by @chaotiicneutral (Andreil) in a café being soft by @llheji (Andreil) in winter by @still-waiting-for-godot (Andreil) Princess Mononoke AU by @requiemofkings (Andreil) steampunk AU by @viridianjane (Andreil) winter cuddles by @jojen-hewitt (Andreil) with a snow globe by @cielleinthazure (Dan) folklore au by @bluetheking (Foxes) sharing beds by @chitsuu (JereJean) first time cuddling by @cats-are-assholes (Kandreil) magic au by @exyfordays (Kandreil) playing twister by @uzea-ke (Kevin) goes skiing with the Foxes by @kitshunette (Kevin, Andrew, Neil) Hogwarts AU by @katerandomletters (Mary & Neil) on the run by @katerandomletters (Matt & Neil) winter clothes sharing by @cats-are-assholes (Neil) hurt!Neil by @captain-ferid (Neil) wearing a winter sweater by @mixeurants (Riko) Long Live The King by @moosefix (Renison) gift shopping by @some-sort-of-firefly   EDITS/GRAPHICS Andreil/JereJean witch and mermaid au by @yeollie-bells Andreil ‘Don’t look at me like that’ by @humongousvoidbear Andreil werefox fantasy au by @yeollie-bells Andrew by @andrewminyardownsmyass (+playlist) Dan, Neil & Matt by @soft-ravenclaw-apollo Foxes social media au by @annawrites Kevin & Wymack by @holidaywilds (+ headcanons) Renee & Neil; mirror, parallels and winter by @glkprminyard Renison by @rrgunns (+ playlist) Renison in the holidays by @philosophium (+ ficlet) Renison mermaid au by @holidaywilds   FIC (Aaron/Katelyn) Merry Christmas, Baby by @a-case-for-wonder (Aaron/Matt) $3 prophecies are Fate’s mockeries by @elysabeth (Aaron & Andrew) bones of our childhood by @jsteneil (Aaron & Andrew) Identical by @annawrites (Allison/Kevin) Closing Rank by @holidaywilds (Andreil) 5 Things that Made Neil’s Christmas (More Than) Okay by @apprenticedmagician (Andreil) ask me no questions (and i might not cuss you out) by @wingsofwaxx (+ playlist) (Andreil) Bahumpug! by @ahhhnorealnamesallowed (Andreil) Blossom Willow, Grow Your Leaves by @soft-ravenclaw-apollo (Andreil) Christmas Tree Sprinkles by @dysfunctional-college-roommates (Andreil) corresponding shapes by @wilsherejack (Andreil) false alarm by @scepterofstardust (Andreil) Foxes in the Woods by @dkafterdark (Andreil) From the horse’s mouth by @maikoyo (Andreil) Frostbite by @sunrise-and-death (Andreil) Ghosts by @blueminyard (Andreil) Home by @bluewire13 (Andreil) home (is whenever i'm with you) by @nightquills (Andreil) I Can’t Describe the Joy They Bring (cuz joy is something they don’t bring me) by @s0ym1lk (Andreil) i’m going to make this place your home by @niickyhemmick (Andreil) it’s a wonderful life by @that-ship-has-sunk (Andreil) Just the two of us by @neilminyards (Andreil) Mind Your Own Business Cat by @blurredmxnds​ (Andreil) Museums by @jeanmoreauz (Andreil) Neil figuring out his sexuality by @nakasomethingkun​ (Andreil) the night is cold (but my heart is warm) by @baerlii​ (Andreil) not all that glitters is gold by @defractum​ (Andreil) nothing but the truth by @defractum​ (Andreil) one love, one house by @dexinasnapback​ (Andreil) Peppermint Toads by @petalplate​ (Andreil) Raven!Neil’s first Christmas by @followmedown-tohell​ (Andreil) Some things you just can’t bury by @permanentchaos​ (Andreil) Staying by @leahlisabeth​ (Andreil) The Jumper by @dreams-of-andreil​ (Andreil) Unlicensed Magic by @dysfunctional-college-roommates (Andreil) Where the Lovelight Gleams by @eerielake​ (Andreil) Why would I kiss you under some plant? by @kevaaronday​ (Andreil) Wrap Me Up, Keep Me Warm by @c-dragon-pirates (Andrew & Matt) post-canon becoming friends by @spanglebangle (Dan & Neil) winter bonding feat. snowball fights, cuddles, hot chocolate by @spanglebangle (Foxes Gen) the Foxes go skiing by @elyteracy (Indreil) Christmas with the kitties by @followmedown-tohell (JereJean) Home’s Where I’m Going by @find-yourself-in-passion (JereJean) show me the sun (don’t let me hurt you) by @dancyon (JereJean) soulmate au by @carolynthelibrarian (JereJean) the sound of my love, in your hands by @dancyon (JereJean) What Are Friends For? By @officialrichie (Kandreil) Another lonely Christmas by @daddymemeyard (Kandreil) Dirty Santa by @dkafterdark (Kandreil) Home, For The Holidays by @onlycareaboutexy (Kevin/Jeremy/Jean) soulmate AU by @wesawbears (Kevin/Riko) Gold Dust by @softproko (Laila/Alvarez) Mareel Mǫrueldr Merituli by @rrgunns (Laila/Alvarez) Merry Christmas by @howaremonstersborn (Monsters Gen) Dedicated to boa constrictors who’ve eaten an elephant by @elyteracy (Monsters Gen) Keep In Touch by @yourfriendlyneighorhoodblog (Nerik) Firsts by @agapantoblu (Nerik) kidfic by @wesawbears (Nerik) Take me somewhere nice by @poze-laceen (Neil/Jean) Falls by @nekojitachan (Riko) Canon divergent ending by @softproko   HEADCANONS (Andreil) Christmas by @aftgandreil (Andreil) Neil goes Christmas shopping & part two by @ten-paces-fire (Andrew) The Broken ‘No’ by @anyberry (Kandreil) greek mythology au by @monmouthco (Kandreil) road trip by @kevindxy (Renison) movie night with the Foxes by @palmettofoxden (+ gifset) (The Foxes) post-canon secret gift exchange by @one-eyed-kaneki-kun (The Foxes) Mistletoe by @spookyaisling (The Monsters) Band AU by @boydsten   PLAYLISTS (Andreil) you told me to stay by @scattered-shadows (Andreil) you’ll tell me truths, but promises, i’ll keep by @substantiating-shadows (Jean/Neil) the snow is falling by @officialrichie (+ headcanons) (Renison) by @soft-ravenclaw-apollo  
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c-valentino · 7 years
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What do you think of Riko as a character inside the books? (no HCs) / Any fave HCs you want to share? / Any pairings/ships you like with him? / fic recs? / art recs? / Kevin&Riko - do they have/had feelings for each other? / Thoughts on his finale scene? / Did you read Nora's extra content? // tag other bloggers you think have something interesting to say about him! (maybe someone we don't know yet??) #Thoughts on Riko Moriyama
What do you think of Riko as a character inside the books? (no HCs) From a writer’s point of view? He’s a fucking tragedy. (and no, I don’t mean the pieces of background story we did get on him, that’s been said and discussed before) He’s kind of the worst villain a story can have - and here is why: 
Riko is ‘one’ of the book’s antagonists, and to quote my German lit. teacher: “Antagonists act while heroes react.” - meaning it is often a villain who initiates any kind of dramatic change in a story. That said, why is Riko Moriyama a bad example of a villain? A good villain needs a plausible background story. The reader needs to actually understand what happened to the character in order to make him into what he is today. A good villain started out as an ‘ordinary’ person, same as a hero. Both undergo a series of events to turn them into what they are. If not enough depth and character development is put into a story the character becomes lifeless, doesn’t spark any kind of interest within the reader and (in this case) the villain becomes a ‘plot device’ - meaning someone who does evil things to create scenes that show more light on the main character and his reactions. (Neil has to suffer through some pretty over the top and kinda unexplained abuse from Riko in order to add to the tragedy and heroic survival in his character’s development). [unexplained meaning: Riko could just have done a million other things to him - it wouldn’t make much of a difference. As long as it fits the excessive violent behavior category it would have worked plot wise. There is no explanation why he is using knives (other than that it fits the whole scar theme of the books (Kevin, Andrew, Neil, Jean… all of them have scars)) … ] Or, to be very harsh here and I know it’s not quite THAT bad, think of those silly cartoons, Road Runner and Coyote - you know the coyote will do any kinds of destructive things, you don’t know why, it’s just his role, he’s a plot device. 
Of course there are ways to create a great villain without spending many pages on his background story. Take Makishima Shogo e.g. (PsychoPass season one), we know next to nothing about his background, yet he is one of my favorite antagonists. His character feels real because there are enough little aspects about him that add depth: he likes to read books (physical copies because ebooks lack character), he likes to quote from those books to drive his point home, he likes to dip his sweets into tea… - non of that makes him better/worse at changing/destroying society, but it gives us an idea of who the man behind that criminal mastermind is. 
Sadly, we only get the smallest glimpses of Riko. Overall his name is being mentioned 595 times in the trilogy, but we encounter him only a few times. Most of his actions happen behind the scenes. He’s also the best kind of HC goldmine you can find. Wasted potential makes for great fan content because there is so much left to explore (no matter if the author had to cut all the information out or cba to come up with anything to begin with. The fields of imagination are endless my friends!) Or, as Nora explained: “I wanted a stronger antagonist, so I kept giving him more power–and then I tore a chunk of it away in the final draft out of necessity. He had more presence in the second-to-last draft, just as Neil’s father did, but I had to delete entire chunks to balance the story out…” Basically all the information we have on Riko comes from Nora’s extra content (his whole backstory is in there). If you read it his character starts to make sense, becomes interesting and worth exploring. But it is what it is. You can’t really blame the readers for hating Riko Moriyama when they pick up the books for the first time. He is a shadow of a character in there. And let’s be honest, the extra content “doesn’t count” in many reader’s opinion. If it’s not in the books it didn’t happen! (true to some degree, but I’m not a purist. I research and dig for those extra pieces of information. I’d rather have four books with all the information on the side characters in there, I don’t need a sequel.)  So, conclusion: If you hate Riko Moriyama, consider reading Nora’s extra content and give him another shot. He is quite interesting.
Any fave HCs you want to share?oh geez…. endless supply of those • Young Riko wide-eyed on his first trip outside of the Nest (supervised &!! unsupervised) like… the things he wants to see/eat/try/buy, (with Kevin by his side/the whole team/on his own/some Moriyama bodyguard), him buying ice cream (wow that’s sweet), fast food (not rly his thing, too greasy), clothes (ripped jeans, t-shirts, that amazing black coat he sees on his way back, a hat - because all he has are workout clothes, Exy gear and suits)• Riko doing promo/commercial stuff for the Ravens, playing nice for the staff on set, but wishing some of them a very painful death because they are so fake… (kinda used that one before) • Riko doing drugs/alcohol for the first time (can’t hold his liquor even though Kevin seems to have no problems in that department, and oh, it pisses him off - gets a huge backlash from his uncle afterwards for being an embarrassment to the family name) (drugs are something he can’t really get to terms with. He likes the feeling they give him (at least some of them) but he absolutely hates the aftermath, remembering how they made him open up, bringing him close to losing control…(ravens are against doping btw) • Endless scenes of Riko/Kevin making out… Young Kevin getting curious at some point and the only one around for him to ask is Riko, Riko being so angry that something has to give and sadly that’s Kevin, both of them being hyped after their first official game(win) and making out on Kevin’s bed, both of them getting drunk at the victory celebration and Riko dragging Kevin off to somewhere that’s dangerously public and oh, Kevin, be quiet dammit… 
•Kevin is like an octopus while being asleep and Riko can’t stand it, it’s too warm, too sweaty, too heavy, too close…. - that’s why they make out on Kevin’s bed and he leaves afterwards. But there are times he wishes he could just go over there while Kevin is asleep. He does one night, when Kevin has been drinking with the older ravens… he has covered his ass and Kevin is gonna pay for it later… gets into bed behind Kevin and prays he won’t wake up…• Riko not admitting that there is more than Exy in his head sometimes… he likes psychology, astronomy, he’s good at math too and maybe physics would be interesting if the teacher wouldn’t be such a boring moron who takes ages to come to the point… but he can’t tell anyone because all he’s meant to be is the heir of Exy, and rly, what’s the point anyway? Chances are he won’t survive the end of his Exy career… • He likes music and some company gave them these awesome noise cancelling headphones. He likes them but only uses them when he is alone because he needs to hear the people around him…  • He’s an awesome dancer with remarkable body control, and so is Kevin, as they both find out on their first (and last) night at a club…
Any pairings/ships you like with him? Both Riko/Kevin & Kevin/Riko work just fine for me. I’ve written (Raven!)Neil/Riko/Kevin before, and if you put some work and thought into a well crafted AU setting even Riko/(raven!)Andrew works. - If it has to be straight… my best bet would be Allison - she has enough of an attitude to stand her ground.
fic recs?let me give you a few but it rly deserves a full list at some pointwhat if i did by MadHatterNO7 - Kevin/RikoNever More by biffes - Kevin/Riko Kevin/Riko/Jeanignominy by Saul - Kandreil but I still like Riko in this one… baptism by Saul can’t go wrong with Saul aka @unkinglythose are only the ones I can name on the spot…
art recs? Well, there is @shihoran , of course, she’s been posting daily. hers is maybe the sweetest Riko I’ve ever seen (nothing like I imagine him but gorgeous art!) I know @foxesrefuge is working on some stuff (since I’ve seen a glimpse of it! ha! no spoilers though) http://berry-muffin.tumblr.com/post/154991766150/insp-and-a-bonus-because-fuck-riko-moriyama    http://llstarcasterll.tumblr.com/post/157091722582 http://schwarzbrot.tumblr.com/image/138611768689 http://ziegenkind.tumblr.com/post/147315366365/here-you-go-nonnyand…. srsly, we need more Riko art!
Kevin&Riko - do they have/had feelings for each other? According to Nora’s extra content ‘yes’ they had feelings for each other. And I’m not talking the platonic kind of feelings. We’re talking the conflicted ‘adoptive’ brother/romance kind of stuff. Inside the books? Yes, I believe they have a nice textbook example of love/hate relationship to the very end. Riko can’t get over Kevin, even keeps his room untouched (as Neil tells us) and I could write you another two pages about that first interview scene. You can’t just ‘hate’ someone for no reason. Hate is a very personal feeling and it needs some kind of obsession behind it. Kevin tells us that he knows how it is to be with Riko. He also tells us that Riko wasn’t always like the way he is now. He’s gotten worse. You hear the Foxes call Riko a bastard, crazy… yet Kevin usually doesn’t outright insult Riko. Does he love him after what Riko has done to him? Probably not! Did he get rid of all his feelings from the time they grew up and learned to love Exy together? Unlikely.  
Thoughts on his finale scene? ¬_¬ you had to… I don’t like it. But that’s my personal (emotionally clouded) opinion. It works as a scene because it is fast paced and written in an almost detached way - like such an experience would be, I imagine. Hard to take in, slow to process, very overwhelming, scattered, scrambled brains and all. The scene itself makes me nearly choke on the tension and displayed/withheld emotions.
Did you read Nora’s extra content? Oh yes! Such an inspiration. I’d love to get my hands on some of the earlier drafts… *cough*moreKandreil/moreRiko*cough*
// tag other bloggers you think have something interesting to say about him! (maybe someone we don’t know yet??) #Thoughts on Riko Moriyama - Already did! :D
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aftgficrec · 3 years
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Hiiii lovelies! 💜 I'm looking for fics similar to Heavy Dirty Soul by alexjosten. Can you rec anything like that?
Something similar to ‘Heavy Dirty Soul’... you don’t make things easy, do you? (lol)
In the end, I scrounged around to see what Kevin/Neil fics I could find, and ended up with a mix of old and new. There seems to be an increase in interest in this pairing, so maybe there’ll be a little more new content in the future. Hope there’s something for you in the selection below! - S
Also see...
Kevin/Neil here (find the first 2 fics mentioned below in this ask)
More Kevin/Neil here
Even more Kevin/Neil here
tumblr Kevin/Neil here (with tips for tumblr searches)
‘Don’t Bury Me (With A Coin Under My Tongue)’ here
‘Hummingbird Heartbeats’ here
‘Fin Du Jeu’, ‘morbid stuff’ series and ‘Heavy’ here
‘Just Kevin’ here
‘Oops (Didn’t Mean It)’ here
‘Now that I have got you’, ‘5 things’ (now complete) and ‘not very good at this’ here
‘The Vixen’ and ‘Running in the Rain’ here
Heavy Dirty Soul by alexjosten [Rated E, 38356 words, incomplete, last updated Dec 2018]
Andrew doesn't believe Neil when he explains he has a binder full of Kevin's photos because he's in love with him. To catch him in his lie, he convinces Kevin to fake interest in Neil to get him to give up the act. Problem is, neither of them know how far Neil is willing to go to ensure his survival.
tw: panic attacks
What we become in the absence by zen_fox [Rated M, 46369 words, complete, 2018]
Kevin Day, Exy’s former superstar, is now relegated by injury to the lowly position of Assistant Coach for the Palmetto State Foxes. Neil Josten, PSU's newest recruit, has a promising future ahead of him— and a dark past behind him.
In the absence of anyone to protect them, what will they become?
(An AFTG AU where Andrew never signed for the Foxes, so Kevin never had the backup to return to the court, and Neil never had anyone to dig up his secrets. Will Neil's truth ever out, and will Kevin ever play again?)
tw: alcohol, tw: canonical character death, tw: referenced gun violence, tw: implied/referenced torture
Apartment 314 By Nikotheamazingspoonklepto [Rated M, 18715 words, complete, Aftg Reverse Big Bang 2019]
(Kevin/Neil leading to Kandreil)
Day & Josten run their Private Investigation business out of their apartment and manage to make ends meet without touching Neil's family money. Some months are better than others, but the two of them have been content in their inner city apartment, running around and spying on people for money. Over the last seven years, they've built a life together and it's been good.
Then Andrew Minyard, a lawyer from out of town knocks on their door and presents them with a case that they can't refuse - not with the amount of money offered - or the familiar look in his eye.
tw: attempted sexual assault, tw: torture, tw: murder, tw: implied alcoholism, tw: implied/referenced rape/noncon
NB: art for this fic by @mr-im-fine can be found embedded in the fic
Surface & Symbol by OfficialStarsandGutters [Rated T, 50227 words, incomplete, last updated Aug 2021]
Fake dating KevNeil AU with art student Neil.
“Short version: I have to go to a homophobic event so I wanna bring a date to make a statement, but as Aaron has just made abundantly clear, the concept of anyone willingly dating me is obviously a huge joke. So Kevin has very kindly agreed to pretend he can stand me for one evening.”
tw: implied/referenced child abuse
Pull the trigger (Till the end) by eloquent_apollo [Rated G, 32036 words, incomplete, Aftg Big Bang, last updated Aug 2021]
Prodigy Kevin Day is always one step ahead of Nathaniel. He is always just a little faster, just a little better. They are rivals, who will never get along. That is, until they are transferred to the same team. Now they must learn to cooperate, as the clock is ticking for Nathaniel to prove himself to the Moriyamas.
tw: implied/referenced abuse
one of us has to make it by thewintersolstice [Rated M, 8324 words, complete, 2021]
When Kevin wins and Riko destroys his hand, Nathaniel's the one who gets him away. Nathaniel's also the one who gets left behind.
Raven!Neil AU.
“I — I can’t leave.” Nathaniel can see the panic building in Kevin's eyes, the realization, the fear. “Nathaniel I can’t, you know I can’t, he will kill me—“
“Hasn’t he done it already?” Nathaniel’s voice is ragged, broken, all of the anger but none of it for Kevin, all of it is because it’s fucked. It’s fucked beyond repair and it is perfect.
Kevin is going to get out.
tw: violence, tw: implied/referenced torture
celestial bodies by skullcaid [Rated T, 5604 words, complete, 2021]
Tangling fingers in hair and accidentally napping together. Sharing clothes and watching and playing Exy. It's an epiphany, a realisation, and confessions and exploring. Kevin and Neil. Day and night. Sun and moon. They match, because of course they do.
Kevneil in a perfect court AU by @kevindayisafrog [tumblr, 2021]
Here’s a painful one shot of Kevneil in a perfect court AU based on artwork by @knandersonart on Instagram
tw: blood, tw: anxiety, tw: panic attacks, tw: abuse
daysten baking au by @girloikawa [tumblr, 2020]
so, the premise is that for a competition you’re supposed to team up with another bakery in your area to compete for a $15,000 cash check that you have to spilt.
Art
Kevin has to leave Neil in the Nest by @koihoi [tumblr, 2021]
Early morning run with Kevin and Neil by @rainbowd00dles [tumblr, 2021]
Sleepy Kevin/Neil by @gthechangeling [tumblr, 2021]
Kevin/Neil by @bambazzle [tumblr, 2021]
Feral boyfriends by @cowboymoonking [tumblr, 2020]
Found this Kevneil piece in my wips… by @leloqier [tumblr, 2020]
Neil hit every cone in practice by @mr-im-fine [tumblr, 2018]
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aftgficrec · 3 years
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What authors would you recommend to someone new to the fandom, just starting out? Like who are the fandom staples I guess! I have a friend who feels overwhelmed with the tag and wants to start with a basic masterlist ^^
Without exaggerating we came up with 15 names, and that is not going to lessen your friend’s overwhelmed feeling. Making people feel welcome and comfortable in our fandom is dear to my heart, so I snatched up this ask quick as a wink. My fellow librarians very graciously agreed to let me present my plan, which starts with some specific canon universe fics and branches out into other recs. This is how I got into the groove of reading fic, and hopefully your friend will be happily reading soon. We’d love an update. - A
Reading Recs for Fandom Newcomers
Light fires at night (to push back the void) by inthesea [Rated M, 61862 words, Complete 2017]
The first time Andrew realizes he wants to hear the words, Neil isn’t even doing anything. He’s just sitting there, staring at the horizon with that stupidly dramatic faraway expression of his, and letting the cigarette burn down between his fingers all the way to the filter — an outrageous waste of good nicotine, if you asked Andrew.
(Or: 20+ times Andrew and Neil say I love you, and one time they say it out loud.)
tw: implied/referenced abuse; tw: dissociation; tw: depression; tw: implied/referenced self-harm
NB: None of us know the identity of inthesea, but this is a fandom classic. Set immediately post-canon, it is a fantastic place to start reading fic
Trust Fall (And Welcoming Arms) by SpangleBangle [Rated E, 84557 Words, Complete, 2017]
Life goes on after the Foxes win the championship, and for Andrew and Neil it's uncharted territory with only each other for guides. Maybe it's time to put away some of those hard edges, and learn how to touch more softly, and speak more honestly. And if they falter, they have their family to help them get back on their feet.
tw: panic attacks, tw; implied/referenced rape/non-con, tw: implied/referenced self harm, tw: eating disorders mention, tw: homophobia, tw: implied/referenced drug use - and more. Author details triggers in notes on each chapter. 
Baltimore Blues by SpangleBangle [Rated E, 17097 words, complete, 2017]
He saw the duffel.
It was battered all to hell and the strap was nearly torn from the bag, but it still glowed almost neon in the darkening night and streetlamp glare. Neil would never…
He dropped to his knees beside it and rifled through it, looking for any sign, any clue as to where Neil might have run. Nothing, nothing, nothing. Until his fingers found the keyring. Until he found the phone.
Andrew's perspective on the Binghamton riot and the walking tragedy that is Neil Josten.
tw: violence, tw: sexual content
NB: Here are one post-canon and one canon-divergent fic from the incomparable spanglebangle. Read our thoughts on them and find links to more of their works in this post.
Yeah, Do You Have Anything Shorter?
NB: We have found answers to many asks in these tumblr collections by an author who is sadly no longer active in the fandom. Their tumblr has been deactivated, so having these collections on AO3 is a gift. Each includes a table of contents and they are fantastic for quick, in-character reads. Just pick and choose what appeals to you. 
Tumblr Prompts by lipsstainedbloodred [Not Rated, Collection, 2018] 
A collection of various headcanons and bullet point fics from my tumblr (cigarettesmokeandexyracquets). Tags, warnings, ratings, and other details will be in the author's note in each chapter.
Tumblr Headcanons - Andreil by lipsstainedbloodred [Not Rated, Collection, 2018]
Tumblr Headcanons - Kandreil by lipsstainedbloodred [Not Rated, Collection, 2018]
Links to More Good Stuff
Try any or all of these.
post canon fics - set right after the king’s men here
staff favourite* post canon andreil here
faves from 2020 here
2020 greats in no particular order here
*NEW TAG ALERT! staff faves - specific asks from blog followers about our favourites [edit: corrected link]
staff recs tag
random rec tag
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i-did · 3 years
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Do you have any thoughts on the way “fuck you Nora” impacts things like ships, in particular the recent sentiment that andreil is toxic and other fanon ships are objectively better and healthier that’s in pockets of the fandom. Like I’ve definitely seen it in the Kevin-centric niche the most but even outside of that there’s this belief that things like jerejean and renison would be very soft and healthy when there’s no proof of that. It’s almost like plausible deniability because (1/2)
andreil has canon strengths and flaws that are irrefutable, so when they ship things like Jerejean kevjean that don’t interact they feel a license to make it “better” because they know better than Nora if that makes sense. And Kandrew and kevineil are pitched as being healthier than andreil, among fans who say they wish the kandreil draft was canon where Nora has said multiple times, even when she talks about how fun they were to write that k/a were “obsessive” (2/2)
Yeah I definitely think “fuck you Nora” can play into it, sort of like how for a while most marriage or “I love you” HC posts started or ended with “fuck you Nora”. 
I think andreil are such a unique relationship dynamic of two very “difficult and violent” people ending up together, so I understand why they also get called toxic and flawed a lot. Tbh I can’t really see Andrew or Neil with anyone else, I think they fit together well and what works and is healthy for them just won't work or be healthy for everyone else. 
I also agree in the plausible deniability aspect, sometimes I think these fans take these characters and names and general situations, and make them into OC’s and/or props to fulfill troupes. The nature of fan creation is to play around with canon.
I personally don’t think the average college boy would be emotionally prepared or equipped enough to be a healthy pairing for a recently escaped lifelong human trafficking and cult survivor who just narrowly survived. And I don’t think Kevin who held power over Jean in the nest at number 2 instead of 3 as well as Riko’s partner, would be healthy either. Kevin himself talks about how it was different for him than for Jean, it was worse for Jean since he was a “lower rank.” I think the idea Kevjean is better than Kevin and Thea comes partially from the belief that gay=better in fandom, and the ‘pair the spare’ mentality. 
I also personally think that both Kandrew and Daysten/Kevineil are not good fits either. I’ve talked about it before and explained why I think Kandrew is unhealthy and am not really interested in exploring it, but for Kevineil I personally think they… fight too much I guess. You get in arguments with your friends as well as partners, but the way they affect you and power works can be very different, and the type of arguments are also typically different. I think they're fine as friends, but I think they would need a lot more outside of canon growth and development to be a fit romantically. I don’t care what others want to ship or explore, I just personally don’t see much appeal with either dynamic. 
I think people who say “this would be healthier” are usually imagining their ideas and HC’s and version of the character rather than the canon one, as well as just… their personal idea of what is “healthier” and what a good relationship “looks like”.
Also you briefly mention Renesion as being depicted/perceived as “softer and healthier” too. From what I see of Renesion its very… just kinda there. Usually there isn't a lot of development or they're just sort of in the background of another fic. The Renee and Allison in canon would not pair well together imo either, I also mention this somewhere in an earlier ask as well. I'm all for wlw pairs and ships, and I've read like a decently long Renesion fic my friend @wishbonetea wrote called “The Gracekeepers” where they do actually have chemistry, but are growing differently than they do in canon. In canon Renee is a “bad person trying very hard to be a good person.” she’s anti-negative talk and avoids speaking ill of others or expressing negative or harsh opinions. Allison has recently escaped a stuffy rich people environment where all their words are cloaked and all compliments are backhanded and no one really says what they’re thinking, Allison’s personal growth from this is to let it out and say what she really thinks, who give a fuck if they think she's rude or unladylike, it's her feelings. Also Renee’s past is often just depicted as this cool thing rather than something very truamatizing that she struggles with, makes it hard for her to genuinely connect with others and be her ‘real self’, and Allison's on-again off-again boyfriend just died, and she was there the night it happened. I haven't seen any fics actually explore these topics, just kinda ship them since “pair the spare.” (if any of you know any fics that address this or focus on it lmk)
I'm not going to hold their chemistry to a higher standard than mlm ships tho, I've seen people ship almost all the male characters together in the tags but obviously don’t do as much content for the women, which is a shame because some of the fox ladies have interesting potential chemistry. Dan and Renee have a very interesting dynamic in the EC and Nora herself said if she were to ship the fox ladies it would be Dan with Renee. I personally have high standards for ‘shipping’ I guess, sometimes I vaguely think “oh this could be interesting” but rarely do I actively explore it. I'm a pretty canon focused consumer, I never watched supernatural thinking ‘dustiel’ or even picked up on the queer-baiting until much later. I don't care about shipping the way most fans seem to. I like to imagine Andrew and Neil meeting in their late 60’s or so, or even not meeting the other and being single and having fulfilling lives that way too, which is not a common way to ‘show affection’ to characters. 
I agree with you and think it comes down to plausible deniability and this urge to ‘defy Nora’–be all edgy to an author who stopped listening–as well as pair the spare and fandom culture of shipping at its core. Shipping is seen as a good/better treatment of the characters and “what they deserve” a lot.
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Neil nonchalantly using different languages ?
2/ omgjustkillmealready said to aftgficrec: Neil doing accents. Like not mockingly but like convincing ones nonchalantly?
We combine language/accents as one tag, but I’m listing some Neil with a British accent from previous recs, plus some new-to-us ones at the end of this post. As always, please make sure to check the top of the previous recs for many more fics. - A
Also check out
Neil with languages/accents
Neil with math/language skills
‘andreil learning russian’ here
‘Okay so I have this headcanon about andreil’ here
neil or andrew use sign language
Neil is British or a British accent comes out in these previous recs
‘Armies’ here
‘Neil Hatford’ here
‘The Morning AUs...Ch. 47: i like your face' here
‘morbid stuff’ series (kandreil) here
‘nothing to lose’ series here
‘Broken English’ here
‘it suits you’ here
‘Sinister Kid’ here
‘Fake It ’Til You Make It’ here
‘Dancing With the Devil’ here
‘teach me something about love’ here
I Can't Read Your Mind (I've Tried) by trubenblack [Not Rated, 1976 Words, Complete, 2019]
based on a Tumblr prompt from insanewallaby.
how about the foxes figuring out just how many languages he knows (besides the ones already mentioned in the book)
tw: implied/referenced abuse
AFTG headcanon - Neil sleep talking by @not-until-tuesday​ [Tumblr, 2018]
- once Neil and Andrew get comfortable with eachother in the same bed they start to move
- and holy shit is Neil the fidgetiest motherfucker the world has ever seen
Okay but I love any and all situations involving Andreil and French hc by @gohgue​ [Tumblr 2017]
- Neil saying things to Andrew in french because he knows it gets him hot and Kevin running out of the room screaming “HOW DO YOU UNLEARN A LANGUAGE”
The Languages of Andreil hc by @gohgue​ [Tumblr 2017]
English
- Public conversations (including dramatic statements to fuel the josten vs. minyard rivalry)
- Hushed and gasped ‘yes or no’s
- Used on social media because honestly who is bothered with all those keyboards, not them.
i bet everyone in neil’s spanish class hates him. hc by @smokeypaprika [Tumblr]
Neil with a British Accent
neil w a british accent and the team losing their shit over it??? prompt fill by @nekojitachan [Tumblr Fic, 2017]
It was the reporter’s fault, Andrew supposed.
when neil gets mad a slight british accent comes out prompt fill by @nekojitachan [Tumblr Fic, 2017]
Now that the Foxes know about Neil’s past (Mary) and everything, he doesn’t need to keep such a close guard on how he talks and everything. He’s a bit more free in talking in French with Kevin and German with the ‘monsters’, in letting the small bit of Italian and Portuguese and Dutch he picked up out at various moments from rambling all over Europe.
NEIL WITH A BRITISH ACCENT prompt fill by @titforatat [Tumblr Fic, 2016]
i like to call this “neil is so hot that he can accidentally turn on a room full of people with just an exy article and andrew is fed up (and turned on)”
HC THING by @i-want-delfeur [Tumblr, 2018]
So Mary was English and we know Neil can do a fucking good British accent if needed. None of the Foxes have heard it, and none of them ask to hear it.
  tw: sexual content
Neil can mimic a British accent perfectly hc by @rayluneia [Tumblr, 2018]
NB: Edited to correct attribution
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aftgexchange · 6 years
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Pinch hits #6-24
Pinch-hits are up!
These are all the prompts that were unfilled because their person dropped out or hasn’t posted their gift, and a pinch-hit is when someone volunteers to pick it up so no one is left without a gift
Please only volunteer if you can finish a pinch-hit within the next week (by the 19th Dec)
You don’t have to have signed up for the exchange to pick one
First come, first serve
Send me an ask with the # you’d like and I’ll let you know who it’s for
Minimum requirements for each kind of gift are here
All claimed, thank you!!
#6 TAKEN Would like: Art, Fic, Graphics/Edits, Headcanons, Playlist Andreil, kandreil, jerejean, rikev, twindreil, any ichirou ship... basically any but Renison, that one's just not my thing. Raven aus, dark aus w/o character death, hurt/comfort or angsty fluff, but anything lbr NSFW is fine
Would not like: Character death or Renison   #7 TAKEN Would like: Art, Fic, Headcanons Andreil, jerejean, Matt and Dan. Platonic foxes or Trojans Hypothermia (with bed sharing) First snowfall with the cats Neil's first real Christmas NSFW is fine
Would not like: No kandreil. No Riko without comeuppance. No non con or bdsm   #8 TAKEN Would like: Art, Fic, Graphics/Edits Andrew, Aaron, Neil, Jeremy, Jean, Andrew x Neil, Aaron x Katelyn, Jeremy x jean, anything about the foxes in general 1) The twinyards coming to a resolution - can be about their relationship in general or a given situation in which they need to come together 2) Andrew and Neil - long distance. Maybe they can't see each other over the Christmas period due to scheduling, they make it work 3) Jean intending to spend his first Christmas out of the nest alone, the Trojans show him that that's not a possibility 4) Any au situation where Andrew and Neil meet for the first time. Can be outside of college, can be in a high school setting or just after graduation (could even be in a college setting but can't be Exy related) 5) The foxes doing something for Neil that he doesn't expect. Andrew going out of his way to make it happen 6) Aaron spending Christmas with Katelyn and away from his family NSFW is fine
Would not like: Kevin x Aaron, Matt x Aaron, Riko as a main character   #9 TAKEN Would like: Art, Fic, Headcanons, I have a preference for rare ships. I'm happy to receive anything, but honestly, I have these 'weird' ships like... Seth/Allison/Neil as an example. I just like rare things that look like they'd be interesting to experiment with! I like Barista/Coffeeshop AUs, as often as they crop up. Soulmate AUs, Wingfics, supernatural beings... vampires, werewolves, centaurs. I don't mind I just like them. All and any of them. And obviously, I'm fine with them being in other situations as themselves or as they were in canon. It's fine, I don't mind. NSFW is fine   #10 TAKEN Would like: Art Kandreil (this would make me extremely happy), or I guess Andreil is also good MagicAU or Fantasy AU; SoulmateAU; anything like that (I also really love angst) NSFW is fine   #11 TAKEN
Would like: Art, Fic, Headcanons Raven!Neil, JereJean, Dan/Matt, Allison/Seth, Katelyn/Aaron, Andreil, Laila/Alvarez, Renee/Jean, Nicky/Erik Raven!Neil (preferably finding/after finding Andrew); any type of recovery (ie Andrew or Neil or Jean accepting their scars); angst ending in fluff (like Jean or Neil explaining how they never celebrated the winter holiday)
Would not like: Riko/anyone, Renee/Allison, Neil/Andrew/Kevin and no explicit nsfw (can be alluded to but nothing more) please.   #12 TAKEN
Would like: Art, Fic, Graphics/Edits, Headcanons Any of the foxes even Wymack or bee or Abby tbh I'll be happy with anything Maybe neil or Andrew being jealous for the first time in their life? Aaron and katelyn- how they must've started? Or something bout Aaron and Neil becoming friends I live for that. Something with Mary in it? NSFW is fine
#13 TAKEN
Would like: Art, Fic, Graphics/Edits, Headcanons, Playlist Any ships/characters aside from Riko 1. one of the foxes giving neil an ugly Christmas jumper 2. neil and kevin trying to do a Christmas shop 3. wymack insisting on a team Christmas dinner No NSFW please   #14TAKEN
Would like: Fic, Headcanons, Jerejean!! Andreil, the Trojans -slow burn jerejean -JEREJEAN FIRST TIME -always down for some good nsfw (kinky, soft, normal whatever) -sexual frustration between jerejean or andreil (and then resolved) -angsty with happy ending for either couple NSFW is fine
Would not like: Nothing about riko and any of the characters as a ship, don't like ichirou with any pairing either.. not really looking for kandreil or major character deaths   #15 TAKEN
Would like: Art, Fic, Graphics/Edits, Playlist Andreil, Jerejean, Keremy, Kerejean, Jean Moreau, Andrew Minyard, Neil Josten, Jeremy Knox playing with hair, witch au, smiley soft mornings, mermaid au, NSFW is fine No Drake   #16 TAKEN Would like: Art, Fic, Graphics/Edits, Headcanons Andrew/Neil, Andrew/Neil/Kevin, Neil/Jean 1. Magical (I.E Neil is a werefox) 2. Andrew is a detective 3. Professor AU (I.E. Andrew is criminal prof, Neil is landuage prof, Nicky is religious, etc)" NSFW is fine
Would not like: Explicit rape, Riko with anyone   #17 TAKEN
Would like: Fic, Headcanons Andrew/Neil or Jean/Jeremy Either a Christmas ski trip with the Foxes and Trojans or maybe just a Christmas party NSFW is fine, no Kevin/Aaron please   #18 TAKEN
Would like: Art, Fic, Graphics/Edits, Headcanons, Playlist Andrew/jean, Andrew/Neil, Andrew/Kevin/Neil, Jean/Jeremy, Riko, Neil/Matt, Neil/Seth, Neil/aaron holes au where Andrew is Madam Zeroni's great great grandson and Neil is Stanley yelnats  Au where riko isn't killed but instead gets kicked out of exy by ichirou and goes to live in the countryside where he meets a house servant ichrou hires who he falls in love with and they go on cute dates 1920's matt/neil where neil cross dresses as a lounge singer so he can marry matt who play piano and they play at a speakeasy together. NSFW is fine
Would not like: character death non-canon, guro, unhappy ending, dying of old age   #19 TAKEN
Would like: Art, Fic, Headcanons Andrew, Neil (together or separately), Jeremy and Jean (together or separate), Matt, Kevin, nicky Life before the foxes, life after the foxes, enemies to lovers, little quirks they like their friends to do/to do to their friends (pet names? Casual touching? Sign me tf up), will literally accept anything soft or that will make me cry, or both NSFW is fine
Would not like: Riko in any capacity other than how he affected the character the gift is about. Aaron as a "misunderstood good guy," if it's about Matt please don't make him white (or any of them but Andrew and Jean really but Matt is a hard pass)   #20 TAKEN
Would like: Art, Fic Neil/Andrew ; Kevin Day; Laila/Alvarez ; Nicky Hemmick; Allison Reynolds; Neil&Kevin I prefer canon compliant content for all the following prompts:: Fluff or Brotp stuff ; Fashion (or fashion disaster) ; Camping in Tents NSFW is fine
Would not like:
Moriyamas, angst
#21 TAKEN Would like: Art, Fic, Headcanons, Playlist Aaron, Seth, Kevin, Renee, Jean, Nicky Kevin/Aaron Aaron/Katelyn Renee/Jean Nicky/Erik Kevin/Thea Laila/Alvarez Jean/Neil Seth/Allison Seth/Aaron Home alone AU, A lonely Christmas when they're a child and then a Christmas as an adult with the family they made, a family dinner where they're meeting the family for the first time, secret santa au where they got a menial gift but it was always want they wanted as a kid but never got it because of whatever reason, the first winter without having to worry about their survival, hot cocoa and gingerbread house contest No infidelity, NSFW is fine   #22 TAKEN Would like: Art, Fic, Headcanons,  Andreil Coffee shop au!! the foxes catching a glimpse of Andreil softness! Andreil softness in general, Andreil playing pro exy on the same team, foxes' snow day at Palmetto NSFW is fine
Would not like:
Kandreil     #23 TAKEN Would like: Art, Fic Any of the Monsters, and ship wise andreil or kevaaron  Tattoo, coffee shop, florist, harry potter, and historical aus are my favorite. Im super into the twins having curly hair and or glasses. Dramatic sassy one liners are the key to my heart! NSFW is fine
Would not like
Focus on side/minor characters, or angst/dark thoughts   #24 TAKEN Would like: Art, Fic, Graphics/Edits, Headcanons, Playlist Andreil, jerejean, renison Soulmate au, fake dating or just something fluffy and/or smut NSFW is fine No mpreg please
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