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astrangerthatlovesyou · 1 year

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Shoutout to systems/plurals who have unusual experiences or beliefs about their system/plurality!

You think you were born plural? Hell yeah!

You have a mostly or entirely non-humanoid system? That’s so cool, friends!

You don’t feel like you spilt so much as individuals souls gathered in your body? That’s so valid!

You consciously made your system? Good for you!

Your system has lots of non-introjects with extensive backstory, trauma, and disorders that the body doesn’t have? I hope you’re all doing well!

You’re all introjects? Super dope!

You have a ton of inner world relationships? That’s adorable!

You have no inner world? That’s so interesting!

You have any other non-standard experience? You’re valid and I believe you!

Plurality is incredibly complex and I doubt we’ll ever fully understand it. As much as we try to put rules on the plural experience, minds and souls (if you believe in them) are not interested in complying. I think it’s important to remember that mental diagnoses aren’t biological truths, they’re portions of patterns we see repeated. No two experiences will be the same, and the experiences that fit into that pattern aren’t the only ones. Being plural isn’t a chemical process like ATP production. There aren’t chemical components and structures that facilitate it the same way every time. The way our brains work are as unique as our DNA and our environments. We will never succeed in labeling everything they do. What we can do is believe the people who don’t fit into a box.

I love you, you’re so incredibly valid!

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v4guelyv4mpiric · 1 year

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is deja vu a symptom of DID? i've been feeling it hella intense lately and i think it's gotta be connected at this point-

#DID #p-did #disassociative identity disorder #partial disassociative identity disorder #osdd #system #🦇#❄️

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black-salt-cage · 7 months

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Liminal space theme PluralKit member description template ଘ(੭*ˊᵕˋ)੭* ੈ♡‧₊˚ for anon Free to edit as you like, credit is appreciated but not necessary!

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spacefinch · 8 months

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Characters with the most Disabled Swag

(according to me, an autistic person)

General Amaya (Dragon Prince-- deaf)

Ingo and Emmet (Pokemon BW; autistic-coded)

Toph Beifong (Avatar: The Last Airbender-- blind)

Clint Barton/Hawkeye (Marvel comics-- deaf)

Percy Jackson (ADHD + dyslexic)

Annabeth Chase (ADHD + dyslexic+ autistic-coded)

Leo Valdez (ADHD + dyslexic)

Shellington (Octonauts-- autistic-coded)

Peso (Octonauts-- anxiety)

Callum (Dragon Prince-- autistic-coded)

Ezran (Dragon Prince-- autistic-coded)

Bucky Barnes (Marvel-- amputee)

Phoebe Terese (Magic School Bus -- autistic-coded)

Arnold Perstein (MSB-- autistic-coded and anxiety-coded; visually impaired)

Ralphie Tenelli (MSB-- ADHD-coded)

Dorothy Ann (MSB-- autistic-coded)

Carlos Ramon (MSB-- autistic and ADHD-coded)

Mikey Ramon (MSB-- paraplegic; wheelchair user)

Kanan Jarrus (Star Wars Rebels-- blind)

Peter Parker (Spider-Man -- ADHD/autistic-coded)

Ava the wolf (Dragon Prince-- amputee)

Viktor (Arcane League of Legends-- uses a cane)

Jinx (Arcane League of Legends-- schizophrenic)

Deanna Troi (Star Trek TNG-- autistic-coded)

Julian Bashir (Star Trek DS9-- autistic-coded)

The Moon Knight system (Steven Grant, Marc Spector, etc... Disassociative Identity Disorder)

Zuko (ATLA: autistic-coded, traumatic eye injury)

Nick Fury (Marvel; partially blind)

Winona (Pokemon-- autistic-coded)

Iris (Pokemon-- autistic-coded)

Red (Pokemon-- non-verbal and autistic-coded)

Hiccup and Toothless (How to Train Your Dragon-- amputees)

Soren and Claudia (Dragon Prince-- neurodivergent-coded)

Jayfeather (Warrior Cats-- blind)

Crookedstar (Warrior Cats-- dislocated jaw)

Briarlight (Warrior Cats-- paraplegic)

Cinderpelt (Warrior Cats-- limited mobility)

Gray Wing (Warrior Cats-- asthmatic)

Moth Flight (Warrior Cats-- ADHD-coded)

Captain Picard (Star Trek TNG-- artificial heart)

Spock (Star Trek TOS-- autistic-coded + dyslexic)

Captain Barnacles (Octonauts-- autistic-coded + claustrophobic)

Pryce (Pokemon; uses a cane as a mobility aid)

Anabel (Pokemon-- amnesia)

Looker (Pokemon -- anmesia + ADHD-coded)

Allister (Pokemon -- social anxiety + autistic-coded)

N Harmonia (Pokemon -- unspecified trauma + autistic-coded)

Elesa (Pokemon-- autistic-coded)

There are plenty more characters, but this is it for now! Who do YOU think has the most disabled swag?

#disabled #disabilities #autism #characters #headcanons #disabled swag

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sophieinwonderland · 2 years

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Why the Tulpamancy Research Matters For All Systems (Syscourse)

I found this great article detailing the experiences of tulpamancers. I would highly advise reading the whole thing, but I wanted to specifically emphasize quotes from psychiatrists who are studying tulpamancy.

Michael Lifshitz, Tanya Marie Luhrmann and Samuel Veissière hope to determine what is transpiring on a neurological level among tulpamancers. And one of the first aspects of this discovery is negotiating the muddy waters of mental illness — challenging those who say tulpamancy is a manifestation of psychosis or disassociation, not a cognitive leap.

And while tulpamancers manifest some of the criteria for dissociative identity disorder (DID) — such as a “discontinuity of self” and gaps in memory — neither the community itself nor any of the researchers I spoke to think that tulpamancers in general are suffering from psychosis or DID, namely because there is an absence of distress. These voices are also purposeful — they’ve been created with intention. The hosts’ lives are perhaps more complicated due to the presence of their tulpas, but they’re also healthier.

“If something doesn’t hurt, then it’s not pathological,” Lifshitz tells me on the phone. “Think about rumination. Maybe I think a lot, but it’s not depressive unless it’s making me depressed. Being disassociated — having the feeling of multiple agents living inside of you — in and of itself is not fundamentally pathological.”

“The thing that’s clear is that tulpamancy helps people,” Lifshitz continues. “Tulpamancy allows folks to feel more relaxed and better able to socialize. In fact, we’re interested in how we could use it for developing better treatments for those who do have DID or psychosis. Perhaps we can teach [patients] how to engage with voices or personalities in a way that might be useful [or] therapeutic.”

One thing I've seen suggested a lot in syscourse is that tulpamancy is completely unrelated to dissociative disorders. But what we actually see is that one of the reasons tulpa systems are being studied is to help better understand multiplicity as a whole, be able to compare and contrast the groups, and use their findings to develop therapeutic techniques.

There are many reasons I've listed for supporting shared resources and terms, but this is one that I haven't really discussed before.

In 20 years, there is a good chance that anti-endos who claim tulpamancers are harming systems will be receiving therapy that is at least partially based on knowledge gained from the study of tulpa systems and other non-disordered systems that is happening right now. At least, that's the hope Dr. Michael Lifshitz and others.

For this to work, it's important for the practice to be allowed to propagate. The more tulpamancers there are, the more potential subjects to study, the better data that can be gathered by psychologists.

This also means that the anti-endos who are opposing tulpamancy and spreading dishonest narratives to discredit it are actively sabotaging research that has the potential to benefit those suffering from dissociative disorders.

I think it's important that we not listen to the voices that say we're harmful for existing. We should be willing to speak open and honestly about our experiences, unashamed, at least online under relative anonymity where the stigma won't hurt us in the real world.

We also need to remember that opposition to tulpamancy is not just hurting tulpa systems. It's hurting all systems. In part because of research like this that can benefit DID and OSDD systems in the future, but also because the more systems there are, the easier it will be for all plurality to find acceptance and be less stigmatized in society.

Whether they understand it or not, being anti-tulpa is being anti-system.

And hate harms everyone, including those who participate in it.

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cgogs · 8 months

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the fuck is a cdream fictive. is this a new fandom term for kinnie

☹️ its a term for people with disassociative identity disorder or osdd. a fictive is an alter whos personality is partially or wholly imprinted from a fictional source

Introject also works but that word means any alter whos personality is imprinted from an outside source & fictive is more specific

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enderwoah · 3 years

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hey!! i know that the ranboo stream was exciting and whatnot, and that the talking in second person thing can make people think that ranboo is doing a split personality type thing (disassociative identity disorder (or multiple personality disorder)), but ranboo stated on his second or third stream on the SMP that he wouldn't be doing anything like that!

partially because it's pretty hard to pull off, and partially because he doesn't want to accidentally mess up and offend the DID community in any way!

whilst it's possible that he's changed his mind, i don’t particularly think he would. perhaps we should wait until it’s confirmed, but talking in second person is something people do when nervous! a lot, actually! it’s pretty common!

EDIT: he’s confirmed that it’s NOT a split personality type thing!!

it’s not canon!

#/lh!#just spreading the word!#:D #dream smp #ranboo #ranboolive

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firehcart · 2 years

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𝐓𝐑𝐀𝐔𝐌𝐀. — Let’s talk trauma. It’s pretty obvious for anyone who has read Throne of Glass that Aelin suffers through various kinds of traumas and a degree of mental illness through the series – I’m going to break down the main ones I’ll be referencing throughout my own writing, featuring spoilers. It’s worth noting that even with the below, Aelin never lets the majority of this show. Most of the time, this will feature in introspection – please never presume your character is aware of everything, though she’s likely to show hints and symptoms along the way. She keeps the walls up, and holds trauma close.

— oo1. Post Traumatic Stress Disorder:

This does not occur from one isolated incident in her life. There is a long series of history here dating back to her childhood and the trauma of being afraid of her own powers and the extent of her abilities, which we see the King of Ardalan take advantage of and weaponise against her to make her paranoid extend to her own form of control – this manifests during her adolescence and training in Wendlyn with Rowan, where she is terrified to truly unleash without hurting anyone. It’s severe training that allows her to overcome this particular fear.

We then have the trauma she undergoes in her time in the Assassin’s Guild – what is essentially grooming from Arobynn, the deep seated trust issues she forms after his betrayal, and also from the atrocities she commits as Celaena Sardothien who I firmly believe she has partially disengaged from our own self as Aelin. We even see her reluctance later to adopt the identity again, and the visible difference in how she acts when she does slip back into the character ( though if I’m honest, this a whole meta on its own ).

The most obvious of her trauma occurs in the Salt Mines of Endovier – we know she spends one year in the mines where most only survive three months within the prisons there, endured frequent beatings, and is responsible for killing over twenty-four guards on the anniversary of her parent’s death, the same day she attempt suicide. We know during this time she witness physical, emotional, and sexual abuse, as well as being exposed to unbearable living conditions, the verge of starvation, and being broken down so physically that most would have died long since. It is the Salt Mines of Endovier that generated her absolute hatred of slavers, and her fear of whips ( which we reference when Rowan threatens to lash her in her disrespect during training, and later when Maeve uses this fear against her ) ; even now she can’t stand the sound of a lash.

Let’s then factor in the experience she has at the hands of Maeve, and specifically Cairn. We know in that time that she endures broken bones, kneeling in broken glass, being flayed, at minimum – the extent of what she goes through is only hinted in various chapters, and witnessed by Fenrys. I think the most interesting moment of this abuse is when he threatens to use fire against her, and we see a moment in which Aelin realises if he uses fire against her, she will fear it, and in doing so, fear part of herself. I think this introspection confirms she knows at least to some extent how traumatised she is, and what wounds linger.

At the end of all of this, she has a long list of triggers, and a very damaged psyche ( largely masked by her sarcasm and her attempts to push people away ). Even after the series ends, that trauma lingers – and factors into each of the issues I’ll list below. Her months spent disassociating during her time with Maeve ( no doubt a tactic partially employed in past torture ) mean she does occasionally revert to that mindset without realising, and most commonly in silent communication with Fenrys without realising. Touches without her consent – ie. coming up behind her without warning – likely yield a violent response due to shock. Crowds place her on alert because she’s so used to looking for danger. This kind of trauma manifests in social withdrawal ( not externally, she’s good at a mask, so it’s internal – she’ll pretend she’s fine while suffering in her own head ), emotional detachment on occasion, and throwing herself into distractions like physical training in effort to remove from the demons in her mind. Time does not heal this trauma entirely, though time does bring closure and allow her to live with it.

— oo2. Insomnia.

We already see this several times in canon, that where most sleep, Aelin does not. Most commonly her form of self -soothing when it comes to her own insomnia is to render herself exhausted – not necessarily just by her daily activities, but most of the time we see her roaming at night and often times her plans and plots take form by night, where she will spend hours on end employing tactics when no one else is awake. Most of the time, it’s only by utterly exhausting herself that she manages to find some form of rest. More commonly than not, particularly after her time within captivity in Kingdom of Ash at the hands of Maeve, she has nightmares, and can’t discern if she’s awake or asleep because of the months spent in that nightmare like state. She wakes, and for those few moments she doesn’t know if she’s in the Iron Coffin, or if the darkness is nighttime ; it’s only herself that can bring her mindset back and remember she’s not there, that her dreams are only dreams, and that she’s long since gone from their clutches. And then it’s the realisation that she’ll have the same fears in the next day when she wakes, and however tired she might be, she begins to loathe sleep.

I think, again, this is something that eases with time ; Terrasen is never completely dark, even in the night time, so when she awakes the moon and the stars are always bright enough to pave the starlight through her chambers and ease the fears. But it’s only in time that she begins to properly find some form of rest.

— oo3. Cleithrophobia.

I’ve been thinking quite a lot about whether or not she suffers from claustrophobia and cleithrophobia and why she may be one more than the other. Where claustrophobia is a fear of enclosed spaces, the latter is a more specific trauma – that is, the idea of being trapped in any confined space, unable to escape.

After three months spent in an Iron Coffin, with a mask on, literally unable to move, her fear manifests in the second far more than the first. Where claustrophobia indicates an irrational fear of small spaces, her own terror is something based on experience. It’s not the actual space that bothers her ( though I doubt she loves it ) but the very specific situation, that she can’t get free or she can’t escape. Any remnant of that situation likely triggers the same response – panic, in her chest, an almost manic desire to get free, eventual disassociation to cope with the scenario. To put it bluntly, it’s not a situation she ever willingly enters into – small spaces are fine, but if the door were to close behind her, or something blocked her getting free, it’s a deal breaker.

— oo4. Thanatophobia.

To be clear, Aelin does not fear death for herself – it’s not something that makes her uncomfortable, given she knows how many people she’s lost along the way, and I believe part of her does have full faith she’ll see them again after her own death. However, the deep seated issues she has in not being able to save the ones she loves, particularly after witnessing some of those deaths, is something that she finds manifested into genuine fear. We witness it constantly in her self sacrificing behaviour – it’s not self destructive as such, but it’s demonstrated in the fact she places everyone else as more important than her own life. We see it when she admits to Rowan she can’t lose anyone else ; it’s not as shallow as not wanting to lose loved ones, it’s that she can’t deal with the loss again, which manifests in her seeing danger to loved ones even when there is none.

— oo5. Body Dysmorphia.

This develops entirely after Kingdom of Ash, and I think it’s so important to acknowledge here that Aelin was very, very attached to her body. We see her reference her scars repeatedly through the series, the fact that each means something to her, and it helps ground her – physical marks tell her a story of what is real and what was not. I honestly believe this is why she’s so traumatised by the fact her torture at Cairn’s hand results in her entire body being remade over and over for the course of months, that she doesn’t know what was done to her, what was real, what never happened ; there’s nothing to track each injury to the matching wound. Likewise, the years she spent in that body are now remaining only in her own mind.

Not to mention in terms of her physicality, she is suddenly a stranger in her own skin – she knew what her strength was, what her body could handle, had built thick skin, had muscles toned by years of her own training. Suddenly she’s in a body that is untrained, and it’s a blank canvas.

I truly believe this results in a disconnect between her own mental state and her body, and a hypercriticism because her body isn’t as trained, isn’t as fit, isn’t what it was before. Even after resuming her training with Rowan to self correct this, it’s not good enough in her own opinion – it isn’t the same as it was before. Factor into it then that she then loses her mortal body entirely when she forges the Lock ( which is traumatic on another level because her fae form is the one she was reluctant to take for years, and suddenly she’s mourning the loss of her human self, as well as everything she’s been through ), and it takes literal years for her to feel like she’s settled into her skin again in any way shape or form.

#i. character study. » one does not deal with her ; one survives her. «#ptsd cw #long post cw #dysmorphia cw

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mkboys · 2 years

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So that thing in Moon Knight, about sometimes being able to be a ‘fly on the wall’ so-to-speak and be aware of what another alter is doing/experiencing while not fronting yourself — is that a real actual thing, or something similar? In the latter case, how is it different? Genuinely curious, Btw, thank you.

Tw for depersonalisation Hi! Isaac here, thank you for asking us a question, you're always going to have our consent when it comes to education on this topic. I'd like to start by saying we cannot be a single source for information as complex and as vast as DID. I hope this gives a sliver of insight into what it may be for others. We deeply encourage other systems to voice their opinions and correct us when they know more about this than we do, as we didn't spend as many years in the depths of research as others may have.

I apologise, I cannot say what is 'real' or not. I wish I had that answer. It's subjective and dependent on the individual's condition. This is best to be asked to either a professional who works with patients with disassociative identity disorder or OSDD variations and valid to ask other systems other than ours, as we'll be giving information from our collectively lived experience.

I am very sorry for anyone who is deeply disturbed by this film, B/eing J/ohn M/alkov/ich. Now that movie as a whole has nothing to do with DID. I don't want it to come up in search results with any connotations that it may. I will place a separate link for it with the scene because I cannot locate it anywhere on youtube, I ended up downloading the entire movie for this, and I'll include a separate post/explanation once that finishes up. Here it is!

This question is related to co-consciousness which then is further explained by a category of this topic, co-fronting; "When two or more alters are in control of the body at the same time to varying degrees…Alters may be aware of each others' actions or own each others' actions as their own to varying degrees." It will vary constantly from system to system, alter to alter, outside influences like being at work or driving. You can be co-fronting and have limited access to the body/any control. It can be simply having access to the senses (all of them, a few, or only one). This quote is from the Wizard System; ""Being co-conscious with someone else acting though is even weirder. It can be almost like being a puppet - watching your body doing things you have no intention or desire to do. Sometimes it's scary but other times it feels sort of dream-like and later it's hard to remember what happened,"" (Time Loss, Black Outs, and Co-consciousness, 2021.)

DID is so complex that we'll forget what we've just remembered. What we forgot we could remember years from now, it's not linear and it cannot be mapped out as much as we wish it. We have tried to create a timeline but our perspectives on when events occurred are not consistent with one another. It's similar to how that recent episode 5 of Moon Knight, Steven remembers his mum entirely different from how Marc does. And even with this knowledge, there is always a chance of him losing the 'reality' in those memories again for the sake of the system.

Overall, yes it happens, not as common as I know of? Because everyone has different lived experiences, and it could be what someone else has, but it could also be absolutely nothing like it. Isn't that quite frustrating? To not have a direct answer to it all? We definitely believe it can be, and that's where you'll get systems that do not want to answer questions such as these. Or some that do and direct themselves as head of information on the matter. Remaining partial to I have enough to answer, I chose to, but am one bloke on tube perceiving others to be on a plane. It's a matter of what I, an alter, am capable of. Then it trickles down to the rest of the system, and then to the body and where we are, what we are doing at that moment. If the situation allows, we will try to stay co-conscious as it's a preference to us. Other systems will say differently about their perspectives. Sorry if I am repeating myself!

I hope this made some sense yeah? Our subconscious is quite complex!

Citation DID-Research.org. 2021. Time Loss, Black Outs, and Co-consciousness. [online] Available at: <https://did-research.org/did/identity_alteration/time_loss> [Accessed 1 May 2022].

#Isaac #anon #system stuff #co-conscious #DID question #tw depersonalisation #tw depersonalization

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firehcart-archived · 3 years

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𝐓𝐑𝐀𝐔𝐌𝐀. — Let’s talk trauma. It’s pretty obvious for anyone who has read Throne of Glass that Aelin suffers through various kinds of traumas and a degree of mental illness through the series – I’m going to break down the main ones I’ll be referencing throughout my own writing, featuring spoilers. It's worth noting that even with the below, Aelin never lets the majority of this show. Most of the time, this will feature in introspection – please never presume your character is aware of everything, though she’s likely to show hints and symptoms along the way. She keeps the walls up, and holds trauma close.

— oo1. Post Traumatic Stress Disorder:

— oo2. Insomnia.

More commonly than not, particularly after her time within captivity in Kingdom of Ash at the hands of Maeve, she has nightmares, and can’t discern if she’s awake or asleep because of the months spent in that nightmare like state. She wakes, and for those few moments she doesn’t know if she’s in the Iron Coffin, or if the darkness is nighttime ; it’s only herself that can bring her mindset back and remember she’s not there, that her dreams are only dreams, and that she’s long since gone from their clutches. And then it’s the realisation that she’ll have the same fears in the next day when she wakes, and however tired she might be, she begins to loathe sleep.

— oo3. Cleithrophobia.

— oo4. Thanatophobia.

We witness it constantly in her self sacrificing behaviour – it’s not self destructive as such, but it’s demonstrated in the fact she places everyone else as more important than her own life. We see it when she admits to Rowan she can’t lose anyone else ; it’s not as shallow as not wanting to lose loved ones, it’s that she can’t deal with the loss again, which manifests in her seeing danger to loved ones even when there is none.

— oo5. Body Dysmorphia.

#i. character study. » whatever fiery pit she'd been damned to endure. «#long post cw #long post

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deadinsidedressage · 5 years

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I don't know if that anon has run off for good or not BUT:

If you're experiencing depersonalization (detachment from one's self and one's identity; ex. "I don't even know who I really am, I'm just what other people want me to be" type language) then that can be a symptomatic of a greater mental illness/disorder at play---such as depression, PSTD, or schizophrenia.

Depersonalization is particularly common with suicidal ideation in depression; so if you're experiencing it definitely go get some help and find someone to talk to because we'd rather have you around doing your thing than not.

Tumblr throws around the term "disassociation" far too much and overall self-diagnosis of any mental illness is exceptionally dangerous as you can manifest symptoms simply by thinking you "have something". This is partially why we don't have valid statistics for schizophrenia; it's extremely, extremely hard to diagnose and you can "trick" the brain into believing it has something it does not. So the vast majority of people who claim to be experiencing "disassociation" are likely... Not. Or are experiencing depersonalization to an extent but not derealization.

Also, if you're a cannabis or ketamine user--- stop that and see if your depersonalization goes away. Often psychedelics (which, yes! Cannabis is one!) can react very negatively with your mental state; especially so if that mental state is already considered vulnerable.

Such is often the case with potential DID patients. Most famous of them, Shirley Mason (the inspiration for Sybil and whose case shaped what we thought we knew about DID/MPD) manufactured false multiple personalities due to her reliance on her psychiatrist for financial and emotional stability. When she felt her usefulness was gone away, suddenly another personality would pop up. Shirley even admitted she'd lied and it was verified that her stories of the abuse that led to her development of personalities was in fact false--- and not just false but essentially a false memory of a traumatic tonsilectomy manufactured into something else by an eager psychiatrist and a vulnerable patient seeking emotional fulfillment.

It's whack! There's a lot of research into DID that suggests it's a psychiatrist/psychologist manufactured disorder in patients with things like BPD or schizophrenia (both very hard things to diagnose anyway).

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astrangerthatlovesyou · 1 year

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This is the P-DID flag we designed!

P-DID (Partial Dissociative Identity Disorder) is a type of dissociative disorder in which one has DID but additionally has one or more alters that are almost always front/have primary or at least dominant control of the body. For many systems, this “dominant” or primary alter may be able to relinquish some control of motor function and may be able to access the inner world if their system has one. (Though generally they will retain some control and awareness over the front.) In general, P-DID systems will display the distinct and separate alters, and amnesia barriers characteristic of DID. This being said, it is generally accepted for systems that have this kind of primary alter, but don’t fully meet the DID criteria to use the P-DID label. This requires that their experience is not better described by an OSDD type. (Despite P-DID being an official ICD diagnosis, it is rarely considered due to it not being included in the DSM. For this reason, the criteria is largely determined by the individual and the community.)

We posted it on instagram last august but wanted to post it here!

We decided to make this because the only flags we can find are either made by a non P-DID system, or have no available information.

The stripe meanings are:

1: the unique experience of being a P-DID system

2: the validity our diverse experiences (including diverse origins)

3: our connection to the greater plural community

4: headmates that aren't the main fronter and their experiences

5: the main fronter/frontstuck headmate(s) and their experiences

This flag can be used by anyone regardless of diagnosis, except those that are not supportive non-traumagenic systems origins. Trauma is not part of the diagnostic criteria for P-DID or DID, so we are not comfortable with those that exclude on that basis using this flag or any other flags/labels we may create

The P-DID literature in the ICD-11

It’s worth mentioning that most P-DID systems find the language in this description to be needlessly opinionated and focused on distress. Beyond that, the designation of partial is widely criticized as it isn’t accurately representative of the entire system’s experience. Static DID is sometimes used as an alternative.

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moogghost · 2 years

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hello it is like. 11 pm on a school night and yesterday uh. sure was a day that involved heavy thinking on our plurality and shit huh! so because i'm tired and feel it's a somewhat important thing to keep in mind we're rambling about it to 1) keep our thoughts together and 2) hope that this somewhat helps shut up our nerves about being plural (bc we very much are if someone might be thinking that we realised we were a singlet. that is not the case even if we often feel like we're faking it). especially since the thoughts came back with a burning vengeance earlier today </3

anyways it's hidden under the cut and we detail some uh. things that are somewhat existential in nature and probably unreality too. also i'm pretty sure heavy disassociation too so i don't recommend reading if you aren't the best headspace as. i go into more detail about my plurality here than i probably ever will again

so yesterday, partially out of curiosity and partially because we had gone searching for more inclusive plurality posts after having to block another system exclusionist we ended up looking into more system origins because while we've been aware of some of them we never quite got fully into it and it's just. really hard to differentiate when everything's so confusing and blurry as we are a median system

and i think the important thing to note is just that. even when we do sign off our posts, we never genuinely know for sure if we're fronting. or even if that headmate is around, at times. it's always just a vague, blurry mess of a guess and it just gives a huge headache when thinking about our plurality too hard in terms of 'who's fronting'

and this legitimately affects us irl too. not in a fun way either

we genuinely don't know who we are some days - most days, actually. our current name and collective pronouns? yeah we never really connected with it ever and it always feels so alienating when that's. yeah that's supposed to be us. we're a real human being, apparently, but it never feels like it. sometimes it just feels like we're just living in a body that just happens to be in the conditions it's in rn, sometimes it feels like 'this is a life we got thrown into' and other times it feels like 'this is our life but calling it our life doesn't feel like it's the truth and only the fact that it's what we've known for years now'. not sure how to explain it but yeah more often than not we don't know who the hell we even are

which i think that general emptiness and disassociation (if that's how one can define it? idk i'm tired) is part of why we. have so many fableings to begin with. and why we've gone through so many 'identity shifts' that sometimes stick around or leave - which i intially thought was "oh i might just be fictionkin with several different -kins' but no it was not. it never felt like that was me - idk even know what that's supposed to feel like. whenever it happened, it was entirely different people who were typically their own individuals, and would end up sort of fronting via neuronarrating which. yeah fun fact i very regularly do that and it's a 50/50 of whether it's miserable or i'm fine with it because i cannot control that at all

that combined with the fact that it was (and still is) a lot of disassociation that i can't control, hyperfixation on certain characters, and constant neuronarrating that i can't control i. it did kind of hit me yesterday that it is very possible that i have one of the disorders commonly associated with plurality (not saying which one(s) for personal reasons) and that our system is likely paragenic. and adding with the fact that the disassociation aspect especially has been hitting me like a truck it has not been fun when thinking about our plurality

because how do we even know if we're still here? we experience little memory loss regarding our plurality and again we're a median system so we're bound to be more connected but. we genuinely don't know when a switch has happened. we don't know who we are. and the fact that we're a neuronarrator does not help our disassociation at all

in short we're probably going to make a separate carrd for the facets/headmates/whatever we're calling us because it's. both stressing us out and not helping

#vent post #it's both honestly #apologies for the heavy post it's just. been a lot #this goes without saying but don't be an ass regarding this especially since it's a vent regarding heavy topics for me #ghost whispers

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