#pro lifers be like

[dontmean2bepoliticalbut]

#us politics #twitter #tweet #2023 #rep. summer lee #pro life #pro lifers #pro lifers be like #ar 15 #gun violence #gun control #gun rights #school shootings #free school lunches #impoverished children #universal free school meals #infrastructure reform

[dontmeantobepoliticalbut]

A Republican lawmaker in Texas has introduced a bill that would allow the death penalty for women who have abortions.

“Today, I filed HB 3326 to Abolish Abortion in Texas,” Texas State Rep. Bryan Slaton (R) said on Twitter.

“The bill will end the discriminatory practice of terminating the life of innocent children, and will guarantee the equal protection of the laws to all Texans, no matter how small,” he said.

Under HB 3326, a person who has an abortion or performs an abortion could be charged with assault or homicide, which is punishable by death, the Texas Tribune reported.

Slaton’s legislation also says that certain parties may have to testify in cases of death or “bodily injury to an unborn child,” and offers immunity to those that do.

The legislation also directs the state’s attorney general to “direct a state agency to enforce those laws, regardless of any contrary federal statute, regulation, treaty, order, or court decision,” the newspaper reported.

The bill would also ban abortions at fertilization, whereas most abortions in Texas are prohibited after 20 weeks.

Slaton’s proposal is not the first time a Texas lawmaker has proposed the death penalty for abortion. Texas state Rep. Tony Tinderholt (R) introduced a similar measure in 2019 classifying abortion as a homicide.

The legislation comes as GOP states seek to aggressively restrict or ban abortions in an effort to get the Supreme Court to overturn the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision.

Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson (R) signed a bill into law on Tuesday banning abortions unless it is to save th e life of the mother.

#us politics #twitter #tweet #2022 #@jasonselvig #pro life #pro lifers be like #pro choice #abortions #abortion bans #the hill #gop #republicans #conservatives #HB 3326 #tx #texas #Rep. Bryan Slaton #Rep. Tony Tinderholt #the texas tribune #us supreme court #scotus #roe v. wade

[smhalltheurlsaretaken]

y'all need to get a grip. you blab all day about how much you hate bigots and hateful people and how evil it is to dehumanize anyone and then you turn around and say "kys" and "i think [x] should all just kill themselves" and other disgusting, violent and childish trash

so many people on here are just full of hatred and vitriol and turn into frenzied sharks anytime the target 'deserves it' and they think they can get away with it and not be called bad people. then they whine about how sad it is that we can't all just get along and if only all the evil people in the world would stop doing evil things wouldn't that be nicer

you're just as vicious, hypocritical and fanatically puritanical as the caricature you have made in your minds of the people you think you have nothing in common with. if you've ever told someone, ANYONE to kill themselves you're not advocates of justice, you're not artisans of peace, and you certainly don't have any moral high ground that would allow you to pass judgment on others

#i'm tired #you're so terrified of being bad people that you convince yourselves you could *never* be bad #and then any expression of hatred towards others (the “bad people”) gets reframed as proof of your own moral character #((making you even more afraid of being bad because you don't want to be at the receiving end of the hatred and so on and so forth)) #you can say whatever you want about religious people and esp christians but 1) you're as religious as they are but at least they know it #and 2) most of the christians i've met are magnitudes more forgiving of others than this website's self-righteous preachers #(this isn't about anything people have said to me btw it's about what i see reading blogs from all across the social/political spectrum) #this about the radfem-hating liberals and the pro-life-hating radfems and the liberal-hating pro-lifers. Round and round we go #it’s about the people who put rabid antisemitism on my dash and whose only socio-political analysis is to call EVERYTHING bad #“Just like nazism” #Yapping about how much more moral and enlightened they are than ppl who introduce nuance into complex topics while they parrot slogans #I hate slogans so bad

[when-did-this-become-difficult]

OHIOANS VOTE JULY 2023

JULY 11, 2023 EARLY VOTING OPEN TODAY IN OHIO

Skip the lines and go to your early vote location! The last day you can vote is August 8, Election Day (it's an early election day, yes we also have a November election because the Ohio state legislature is so so so so stupid) but anyways

VOTE NO ON ISSUE #1 🙏🙏🙏

a) it's the right thing to do

b) it's pretty easy cause you have a whole month to get it done early

c) fuck em

#us politics #ohio #so if you don't know what issue 1 is #basically republicans are scared because they know that a pro choice state constitutional amendment is a real possibility #but rather than trying to convince people or whatever the fuck they're moving the goalposts #they're trying to make it so that instead of needing 50% of the vote to pass a constitutional amendment #now you'll need 60% #which makes it insanely hard to amend the state constitution because historically we have passed a fair number of amendments but usually #the margin of victory is less than 10% #which is just like...fucking normal??? #anyways they're just hoping nobody votes in august because nobodys paying attention #like that's literally their plan. theyre just hoping to get hardcore right wing pro lifers out #and everyone else not pay attention #so let's - *pauses to think of a nonviolent metaphor* #*fails* #let's block this stupid thing okay? #just. vote no on issue 1

[birdmenmanga]

one time I was walking in the park with vege guy (he's vegetarian because he's buddhist) and a lady who was handing out Christian pamphlets went "Jesus loves you!!" to us except I couldn't parse it because I'd never been missionaried at in Chinese before and when we were out of earshot he immediately turned towards me and went "Would it have been bad if I responded with "Buddha loves you too". Or is that like too petty" and well. I for one would have supported him

#just thinking thoughts... #I know there was this one time that I was with my ex and we passed by this pro-lifer who was spouting bullshit #about how everyone involved in an abortion was committing sin and condemned to hell #and on the spot I yelled back 'what sin can a unborn babe have committed???' #and my ex was mortified. I felt vindicated though. so yeah I would have supported vege guy's buddhism comment #if you're gonna be in a public space like that thinking you're 'saving people' you can't get mad when people clap back.

[tepli-mravenci]

The moment I see a person waving "traditional family" around I start getting sick, I'm not even gonna argue with that person it would ruin my whole day

#is this about that christian woman I got on my dash? yeah yeah it is #but also in general #like it makes my blood boil to hear that combination of words #i turned out way better with divorced parents than some of my friends with a 'traditional family' #and parents that stayed together 'for the kids' even if they shouldn't have #traditional family my ass I was doing well living with my single dad thank you very much #I reckon two loving moms or dads are tons better than straight parents that can't stand each other or their kids #but stay together anyway to 'be a normal family' #sorry for the rant my blood is boiling as previously mentioned #way too late at night for me to be reading pro-lifer christian posts #i feel fucking sick #can't believe people like this come to complain about 'genderless polygamous freaks' on the genderless polygamous freaks website

[ciceroballtorture]

#.text #hes a pro lifer like that but with womb envy

[thepro-lifemovement]

Hi, I voted "to save the mother's life" in the poll, but I'm not sure if a procedure under such circumstances (Like, i guess an ectopic pregnancy) are really considered abortion. I know that a lot of places where abortion is criminalised do not consider it as such for an ectopic pregnancy. Do you care to share thoughts/sources on this?

Hope you're having a great weekend

Hello!

So ectopic pregnancy and miscarriage treatment are not considered elective abortions because the intention is not the same. Especially with ectopic pregnancy since the treatment is either medication (methotrexate, which is rarely ever used for elective abortions), laparoscopic surgery, or abdominal surgery. Most abortion ban laws make it clear that ectopic pregnancy and miscarriage treatments are not considered abortions, so there's no reason a doctor shouldn't treat a woman suffering a miscarriage or ectopic pregnancy, and the treatments for these conditions have not changed with abortion bans.

I have heard two different arguments, some doctors say abortion is medically necessary, while other doctors don't. For the side that argues that abortion is medically necessary I found HealthFeedback talk about it here:

Daniel Grossman, a professor of obstetrics and gynecology at University of California, San Francisco, told Health Feedback that “If the pregnant woman develops a life-threatening condition at a gestational age when the fetus is likely to survive, it is true that in most cases, obstetricians would proceed with expedited delivery”.

“But,” he cautioned, “if the pregnant woman develops a serious condition at 20 weeks, such as ruptured membranes with signs of infection or heavy bleeding from a placenta previa, it is critical to terminate the pregnancy quickly to save her life. There is no chance that the fetus can survive, and an abortion would be the fastest and safest way to terminate the pregnancy”. To date, the most premature baby to survive was born in 2020, at about 21 weeks of gestation.

Luckily for us, the Lozier Institute has listed every single medical emergency a pregnant woman may face and the treatment guidance described by the ACOG, and also the abortion ban laws in every US state:

To assist healthcare providers and dispel the myths being spread by those more concerned with promoting abortion than women’s health, this document discusses miscarriage management, treatment for ectopic pregnancy, and medical conditions that could qualify as life-threatening, permitting abortion under pro-life laws. Specifically, we cite guidance from the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG), a prominent professional organization that has provided comprehensive guidance for management of obstetric and gynecologic conditions. Further, the exact text of the laws, definitions, and exceptions are included below to further demonstrate that the laws in question do not inhibit appropriate and standard medical care.

The reason pro-lifers don't consider abortion medically necessary is because we believe doctors should always try to save both mother and baby, but if they can't do both then the mother should be the priority. There have been instances where the doctors could not save the mother, but could save the unborn child. I would recommend looking through the Lozier Institute article linked above since it contains so much information on the treatment for life-threatening situations for pregnant women.

If you would like more information, Why Prolife also discusses the "medically necessary" question here. It may be a pro-life source, but they include sources for everything.

Former abortionist, Dr. Anthony Levatino, explains why abortion is never medically necessary:

There's a lot to look at with both sides of the argument. Some doctors agree that it's medically necessary, while other doctors disagree. I think if the procedure's purpose is to save the life of the mother, but her unborn child is unintentionally killed as a result of that procedure, then it's not abortion.

I hope this answers your question.

-Sarah

#is abortion medically necessary? #abortion #anti abortion #other pro-lifers can add on to this #ask #asks #thanks for the ask #pro life #prolife #pro-life #i like to look at both sides of the argument

[ohifonlyx33]

lol pls why is this so funny to me??? 😭

...maybe the real Cringe was you all along bc my post was literally just about crabs 🦀🦀🦀 and y'all really thought hmmm let me make sure I agree with this person's beliefs first.

Like... maybe it's just me, but never once have I felt the need to gatekeep crabs. 💀💀💀

I'm really feeling the Ma'am This Is A Wendy's Energy in the replies tonight.

#pro-lifer #pro life #anti-baby killing #it's also really funny to me how they use the word as an insult as if it's not literally in my bio #like.... i'm not hiding the fact that i think INFANTICIDE IS WRONG

[orthopoogle]

This is why I’m not interested in extending “empathy” and “understanding” to pro-choicers. They’re not brainwashed by the Patriarchy or manipulated into hating their own children or whatever; they know exactly what they stand for and just don’t care. Some of them even think it’s something to celebrate and be proud of. Hugs and cuddles and infantilizing aren’t going to convince them that killing babies is wrong.

#I like how the mask slid right off with that second person #‘’oh part of it is pretending abortion is sad to manipulate pro-lifers into supporting us’’ #fuck off wench #pro-life

[dontmean2bepoliticalbut]

#us politics #pro life #pro lifers #pro lifers be like #abortions #abortion is a human right #abortion is better than negligence #reproductive health #reproductive rights are human rights #reproductive rights #abortion is not a crime #memes #shitpost

[hella1975]

id like it to be known that i wholeheartedly support abortion. i support abortion for the person whose pregnancy has become too dangerous to come to term. i support abortion for the victim of rape. i support abortion for those who don't have the financial means to have a child. i support abortion for those underage. i support abortion for someone middle-aged with a stable family and finances and loving partner who quite simply does not want a child. i support abortion for people who sleep around. i support abortion for someone who thought they wanted a child but changed their mind. i support abortion in all its infinitely different situations. if it comes to me picking between a bunch of cells that look like fish eggs and an actual living breathing person with a name and future then babe we're having caviar

#fun fact! 9/10 abortions happen before 12 weeks #and over half happen in the first 8 weeks #at 12 weeks your fetus (bc it's not even a baby yet if u want to be technical) is the size of a lime. a fucking lime #i wasnt going to make a post about this bc i dont like bringing politics onto tumblr #bc after how jaded i got with covid and now Everythign Else i wanted a site that could be safe from real world shit #and also it's very tiring that an American Issue suddenly becomes Everyone's Issue and it can be quite frustrating #when that energy isn't met for literally any other country. and i didnt want to contribute to the en masse posting about roe v wade atm #for those two reasons (at least on tumblr. im not actually spiteful about this and obviously really care about the topic. it's just tiring) #but it's come to my attention that somehow i have pro-lifers in these parts #and i want to make it very fucking clear that i dont want them here #me and this blog are completely wholeheartedly pro-choice in any form it may show itself as #because i have enough critical thinking skills to know two basic facts #1) that people have ALWAYS had abortions. the only thing that's changed is the safety in which they're carried out #you will NEVER get rid of them you will only ever endanger the people and women you're trying so hard to 'protect' #and 2) i have never heard of a single person that was happy to get an abortion. not one. it's not a fun experience #it's incredibly hard and traumatic but oftentimes necessary for whatever personal reason specific to that person #stop fucking making laws about other people's bodies #it really shouldn't be difficult

[sebbys-mama]

But let's not teach students how to have safe sex or reproductive health or anything that will actually fucking help them in life 🤬

#fuck republicans #abortion is healthcare #fuck west virginia #fuck pro lifers #what about the lives of LIVING WOMEN #more like pro control #let women have their autonomy

[neerasrealm]

Hey just so you guys know abortion is a very important medical procedure and people should have easy and safe access to it. If you disagree I'm breaking into your home and leaving eggs in your shoes btw.

#pro lifers make me so mad. almost as much as terfs #which is funny bc terfs tend to BE pro life a decent amount of the time. hm! wonder why! #(it's almost like they don't care about women and just want to control women instead)

[bananonbinary]

okay this is the only abortion post im gonna make cause Current Events are deeply upsetting, but it bugs the crap out of me every time the topic comes up.

listen to me. discussions of what a fetus is and when something can be called “alive” are an obfuscation. they do not matter.

because the people you’re arguing with, despite calling themselves pro-life, aren’t TALKING about the scientific definition of “life.” they’re talking about a religious belief of when something gains a soul. and according to christianity, the soul is Known by God before conception, and then metaphysically becomes a Person at conception. according to this belief, it does not matter when life begins, because the soul was pre-determined when two people decided to have sex.

pro-lifers arent idiots willfully ignoring Science, they are fundamentally arguing about a different topic, and are frustrated that you keep changing the subject. you can’t disprove a philosophical belief, you need to assume their theological point is sound before addressing it. because who CARES if a fetus has a soul, the fact of the matter is that we don’t legally compel people to suffer to save other people, that’s barbaric. organ donation is opt-in. blood donation is opt-in. even if you’re the only match and you know the patient will die without it. biology and shit doesnt even come into it the POINT is that bodily autonomy is already treated as a human right in all other fields. (you could also argue of course that religion is not a basis for law, but....i guarantee zero pro-lifers will give a shit about you saying that.)

#politics / #also pro-lifers are often just...regular people repeating rhetoric drilled into them their whole lives #sure the politicians are malicious #and tons of republicans ARE deeply sexist #but if your talking to say. a woman who calls herself pro-life #chances are she'd be willing to listen if you didnt treat her like a moron #also. those with eagle eyes will say 'hey wait that shit about predestination doesnt even make sense!' #'if something is predestined then its IMPOSSIBLE for a human to stop it!' #you are correct. but none of yall can get into a theological debate if you dont actually know the theology in question #so thats not the point here

[coffeeoverchrist]

Christian anti-abortion arguments always make God look like a dick. So you’re saying a soul has one chance at life, one chance to live on earth, and then it’s off to Heaven, Hell, or Purgatory? And God can see everything, and knows everything that can and will happen? But he’s full of love, right? 

So then why the fuck does he put a soul in a ‘baby’ that he knows will die before it’s born?! That’s a horrible thing to do, denying a soul a chance at the only possible life it would ever get under his own rules. Don’t tell me the ‘the baby will be happy in heaven’ thing, that’s not the point. The point is a loving God wouldn’t intentionally put a soul - a helpless, innocent soul, one that cannot control its own fate - into a situation where it would be killed. 

Look, Christians and/or pro-lifers. Either you worship a loving god, or you don’t. You don’t get to pick and choose what he does to benefit you or the people you’re voting for. Either god loves everyone, including souls that he controls the destination of, or...

[also, don’t you dare clown on this post or come to me with your arguments. you should spend that time doing some self-reflection on why you believe this crap]

#oh wow I'm angrier about this than I thought #roe v wade #apostate #exvangelical #not even censoring this post like I normally do #fucking read it and weep Christians #you cry about so called dead babies while actual ones are abused in foster care and deny lgbt people the chance to adopt them #hypocrites! #religious vent #vent post #pro abortion #supreme court #christofascism #fuck pro lifers #fuck pro birthers