#punks and posers

[solarpunkani]

"Oh no, someone's attracted to the aesthetics of my -punk movement but doesn't know the praxis and history behind it like I do--"

OK. Tell them. Make it a teaching moment. Everyone who's in your movement learned the background from somewhere at some point, maybe this is that point for that person. Give them a jumping off point that they can dive into later.

"Oh but I shouldn't be responsible for teaching baby -punks about the history and the how-tos and--"

OK. Then don't tell them. You don't have to be responsible for teaching people with a budding interest in your group the ins and outs and how-tos. That's fair and valid! It can be a lot of work. Someone else will handle it

"But I'm annoyed that they would try to claim to be part of/be interested in my community without knowing all the details that I know after being in it for months/years/decades, they're dumb, they're posers, they're--"

OK. Then don't engage with them, if it's that bad. Maybe someone else will come around and tell them the history, maybe they'll pick it up on their own, maybe they'll just enjoy the fashion elements for awhile.

"But they shouldn't claim to be part of the -punk community if they don't know the--"

I feel like we have a few options here. People can either talk to them, share the history, share the values, share the praxis. Or they can just chase off anyone who even thinks about dipping a toe in their community, and then wonder why it's dying off later down the line.

I dunno, maybe I'm too naive and patient or whatever. But if people are entering your -punk spaces without knowing The Rundown of what you feel they need to know, maybe being nice about it and informing people instead of immediately assuming stupidity and malicious intent could help you make a new friend. Even the loudest voices in a space had to learn from somewhere, and not everyone has the luxury of being in the space as the History was Happening--whether it's an age thing or a not being aware of the space thing. Or maybe I just don't see what the big deal is behind people hating people who like the aesthetic of something and don't know the behind the scenes history about it yet.

Because I believe in the word 'yet.' No one comes into this world knowing everything about everything, and we're all constantly learning new things. I'm not gonna degrade someone and call them a poser for not knowing what I know. Because if it were me, interested in a scene but getting chased out and called a poser? I wouldn't hit the books and study up, I'd go 'that fuckin sucks, those people sucked' and then avoid anyone and anything having to do with it.

So chase people off and call them posers if you want. But if your community starts dwindling, don't be fucking shocked.

#out of queue #ani rambles #punks and posers #i cant even call this a 4am hot take because its 7pm but like #idk i keep seeing posts about like 'how DARE people think I bought my punk clothes how DARE they not know the how-tos and DIYs' #or 'ugh people only care about the ~aesthetics~ of my movement if you don't know shit get out of here' and like #maybe I'm just a shy ass introverted nerd whos scared of social rejection! but I avoid that shit like the plague #so if someone were to reject me based on not knowing about something I'd never even heard about? something i was JUST getting into? #there's a high chance I'd just scram and never look back. i don't wanna be the one who causes that emotion in someone else #granted this is coming from someone who STILL doesn't know how to make her own patches or worked up the courage to do direct action praxis #outside of offering neighbors to my tomatoes and trying to talk to people about what I'm passionate about #but still imo unless someone's a malicious intentional bad actor i dont see the point in scaring newbies off #thats how movements die imo #i know this is my solarpunk blog but its not a solarpunk specific thing #i think the main post that inspired this was about store-bought versus self-made spiked leather jackets #which honestly just feels petty to me but who knows. #might delete later

[satellites-halo]

yeah you're "punk" but are you normal about deformed people?

#if you arent #youre a fucking poser #punk #cripplepunk #cpunk #cripple punk #visible disability #deformities #disability pride #physical disability

[dognonsense]

@reptil_diy from tiktok has been working on their crust pants for 17 years extremely impressive stuff!

#Found someone none of yall will call a poser #punk #crustpunk #crustpants #crust pants #crust punk #diy #patch pants #diy punk #punk fashion #punk tiktok #crustpants diy

[xpancake-punkx]

Punk is POC

Punk is Queer

Punk is Community

Punk has no room for your moldy white dreads and self entitlement

#autistic punk #stfu white men #punk #queer punk #black lives matter #real punk #no room for the white man #punk poser #white dreadlocks #fake punk #punks for autism #politically punk

[raggedyfink]

Remember kids, gatekeeping punk is OKAY when it’s done to conservatives who try to co-opt the punk scene!

“Conservative is the new punk” 🤡

“Punk is right wing” Johnny Ramone 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

Any band or individual in the scene old or new that are conservatives are POSERS!! Remember, punk went against rock star worship of the 70s!

#mine #diy punk #punk culture #anarchopunk #ecopunk #punk music #punk scene #punk rock #crust punk #diy punx #up the punx #trans punx #queer punx #punx #crust punx #punk diy #punk fashion #johnny Ramone was a poser

[clown-bastard-man]

MLP battle vest update! Original Post

6 new patches and 2 new original pins!

I also added another row of studs to the shoulders, as well as a pin and ribbon I got at pride.

Antonymph: created by Vylet Pony

Yippie! Pinkie Pie refrenced from TroubleLooksForMe on Deviantart

Creator of Fluffle Puff, FlufflePuff662 on DeviantArt

I decided to use the old TLT logo, as it’s more associated with his time in the brony fandom and more closely resembles his OC’s cutie mark.

Please let me know your thoughts, comments and questions, and feel free to tag me if you create anything similar that is inspired by this!

Pic of me wearing the vest at pride under the cut:

#mlp battle vest #mlp vest #my little pony vest #the living tombstone #poser jacket #mock battle vest #mlp #my little pony #my little pony friendship is magic #mlp g4 #mlp fim #battle vest #punk #punk vest #punk diy #diy punk #brony #brony culture #fluffle puff #antonymph #autism creature #rainbow hasn't been my favorite since I was in elementary school but somehow I referenced her on there at least 3 times #and rarity 0 #Im so sorry rarity i will amend this #not clowns #my art

[punkeropercyjackson]

I literally do not understand how most people perfer punk as just the aesthetic after knowing about the culture.Sickest music ever,learning to make your own shit,UNlearning internalized bigotry,helping people,being weird as fuck,breaking the law,sense of community and solidarity,kids looking up to you and getting them join in.What is the downside compared to looking cool with piercings and dyed hair but not even being willing to be rude to people who actually deserve it instead of trying to be Mcu quip-adjacent,it's like we're an entirely different species.Are you guys afraid to develop personalities?Is that why you kin Mcu characters?

#i mean punk culture has bad people in it but most of us actively try to keep them out unlike y'all lazy ass posers with your own groups #punk #pastel punk tag #solarpunk #indiepunk #afropunk #autipunk #genderpunk #traumapunk #acab #socialism #black femme #transmascfem #transmasc #bigender #genderfluid #demigirl #actuallyautistic #actuallymentallyill #actuallydisabled #catkin #dragonkin #ghostkin #blackness #💌 #summerposting

[iintervallum]

scary sketches

#scary marlowe #dndads #dndads quest #dndads s2 #dungeons and daddies #fanart #dndads fanart #dndads scary marlowe #its super fun to draw her #also love just giving her new clothes everytime i draw her #because why not? #also scary to me is definitely a poser #shes way more into emo than genuine goth punk #i feel like she would have a tumblr blog where she'd get into constant discourse about like...warrior cats #“heres 10 reasons why firepaw copperpelt is actually problematic and you should hate yourself if you like him(10k word essay)” #(idk if that is an actual warrior cats character i have only read the first book in middle school okay) #my art

[teddypunx]

First patch on the new vest‼️

#patch is from my fav shirt that got to destroyed to wear #waste was the first hc band I got into so kinda sentimental #a little bit funny to have a sxe back patch when I don’t claim #poser core #diy #punk #hardcore punk

[sketchnwhatevr]

1998 punk matt lilly is my fav

Movie refs are SLC Punk! and Senseless

#I just love how he plays a punk in 2 movies that came out within the same year but they’re like 2 completely different breeds of punk 😂 #hard ass poser stevo walked so soft baby boi tim could run ✨ #also #this is the first time I’ve animated in a MINUTE #I wanna do more little gif animation thingies #they’re very fun lmao #my art #film stuff #slc punk! #senseless #stevo levy #tim laflour #matthew lillard #marlon wayans #90s stuff 💿

[simmerbusiness]

some things never change

#after laughter #brand new eyes #good dye young #hayley williams #paramore #petals for armor #poser paste #gdy #yelyahwilliams #aesthetic #this is why #tayley #taylor york #hayley from paramore #flowers for vases #all we know is falling #awkif #pop punk

[firelordhotman]

ive made this post before but Shoutout to Cripples who listen to punk and embrace the subculture but cant attend gigs, either due to our own disabilities or general inaccessibility. we can still engage in the subculture from our homes! and anyone who calls you a poser for that probably is an ACTUAL poser wearing shein clothes standing in the back of the room shaking in their poshmark boots cuz theyre scared of messing up their tiktok eyeliner in the mosh pit lmfao. REAL punks are anti-ableism and will share music with you and bring you back merch from the gigs you couldnt attend

#i get imposter syndrome when im alone for too long But then i talk to some of my punk friends again and remember who the real posers are #i rarely get to attend a couple concerts a year if im lucky i WISH i could be constantly going to gigs #i love the energy and the vibes and the people and the music and the cheap beer sm. In my dream ablebodied life i live like that #but alas i rarely leave the house #stay-at-home scene kid fr #cripplepunk #in a literal sense #cripple punk

[artofkhaos404]

Can we talk more about the transitional phase between normie and alternative? Because we all did some corny shiz back then. Very poser behavior. And I think we all need to talk about it. Cleanse our souls.

I feel like the "I call myself emo but I don't even understand what that means" starter pack is a tattoo choker, a pair of black plain cross earrings and a band tee for a wildly popular rock band that isn't even really emo like AC/DC or Misfits or something. Or that Nirvana t-shirt, you know the one I'm talking about. If I see that shirt one more time, I'm gonna puke.

It's like you looked around Walmart for anything at all black so you could fit in with the edgy kids at school. It's like those "emo transformation" TikToks but... but this isn't a game to you, this is normal Tuesday behavior. Who is three or four years deep into alt culture and still wearing this outfit? Cuz I wore this outfit when I was probably thirteen... for about a year... never again. Also had a leather jacket that you could not peel off my body. I ran that thing into the ground.

Don't even get me started on how we all labeled everything "emo" that clearly was not- especially music. Who was gonna tell us emo was not a synonym for edgy and sad?

Anyways, I ended up donating those cross earrings to a nearby blossoming baby bat and burned the tattoo chokers a LOOONG time ago. They no longer have power over me. I'm a free woman.

Got any funny baby bat/puppy punk/poser days stories or thoughts? I need this.

#Ill share some more cringe of my poser days if you guys want #emo #alt #poser #goth #punk #scene #metalhead #metal #grunge #fashion #alt fashion #alternative #alt culture #alt music #baby bat #baby punk #puppy punk #middle school #alternative fashion #emo fashion #emo culture #2000s fashion #emo aesthetic #emo stories #TikTok emo #normie #edgy aesthetic #e girl #ak rants

[satanfemme]

so much "punk gatekeeping discourse" would be solved if only weird posers online started educating themselves on anarchism

"even if someone doesn't interact with the punk subculture literally at all, they could still be called punk if they have punk ideals" is a complete nonsense statement when 1. there is no such thing as universal """punk ideals"""

and 2. if I had to guess, those "punk ideals" you're talking about is just anarchism. only you don't know anything about anarchism other than the most rudimentary aesthetic-level shit that you're picking up on through your neo-liberal lenses, so instead of (correctly) identifying those ideals as political anarchism, you're instead (incorrectly) assuming those ideals are just some kind of cutest costumey "punk" belief system, and (because you refuse to engage with subcultures beyond social media tags) you're now pretending that your warped assumption-based concept of punk must be the whole subculture, and it upsets you to be told that you might be wrong.

if you refuse to engage with punk music (or "punk fashion" or the punk community or even individual punks themselves) but you like the idea of dismantling structures of authority, dismantling abusive institutions, abolishing borders and states, and uplifting your community, then you are not a punk but you might be a wannabe anarchist. which is fine. you're allowed to be an anarchist. literally instead of trying to force yourself into a music scene you hate (making both yourself and others miserable in the process), do something useful by educating yourself on anarchism and see if that quenches your desire for "punk ideals"

#^me yelling at a cloud #I dont know if any punk posers would even be following me. & I don't claim to be punk (or an anarchist really) but I needed to get this out #I used to be a punk poser as a teen but I currently actively engage with the irl punk AND anarchist scenes of my city #<- so personal experiences are the source for my above theory ok thx

[fuzzyghost]

#kill posers #punk #graffiti #VHS #retro #gif

[pr0fessional-cunt]

my little punk heart yearns to make a cattonquick au of them meeting at a backyard show or a basement show.

but felix is rich

#felix being a poser is real to me #also on brand for rich kids to rebel and pose as punk #poser!!!! #punk #saltburn #cattonquick #oliver quick #felix catton #felix x oliver #barry keoghan #jacob elordi #felix catton x oliver quick #oliver #felix