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grandadtwelve · 5 months
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thinking about them (kinda-immortal kinda-ex-companions-of-the-doctor polycule) again
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expectiations · 2 months
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River: don’t panic, I have a few knives up my sleeve for situations like this Bill: don’t you mean tricks? the Doctor: no, she doesn’t River, taking dagger out of sleeve: no, i don’t
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a-random-whovian7 · 1 year
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*LONG POST WARNING*
What your favourite New Who Companion says about you (absolutely no offence meant towards anyone, this is just for fun):
Rose: Either the most vanilla person alive, or an RTD era purist. Has spent years fighting for the honor of the RTD era. Ships Ten and Rose to the degree that they shudder at the thought of the Doctor having a relationship with someone else. Is constantly at war with Amy stans. Part of the reason for the RTD enjoyer vs Moffat fan civil war. Usually nice in real life, and quite nostalgic for the Tennant era, so usually OK to be friends with. Unless they say Mickey was treated fairly, at which point, you should run.
Mickey: One of the most kind-hearted, empathetic people, who saw how Mickey was mistreated by Rose in S2 and immediately just wanted to check if he was OK. Is able to hold decent relations with Rose stans due to Mickey's character development after the relationship, and has a surprisingly strong alliance with Rory fans. Was gutted when they heard about Noel Clarke's horrible behaviour and actions.
Adam: Let's be real, we all forgot this guy existed and for good reason.
Captain Jack: Every night, they lie in bed, haunted by the ghost of Torchwood. Loved seeing Jack again in S12, but felt disappointed after his lack of presence in Revolution of the Daleks. Has modelled several aspects of their personality on the Captain, and has the dating life (or lack thereof) to prove it. Cried at the deaths of Ianto and John Barrowman's career.
Martha: Basically Rose fans, except with slightly more indie music taste. Either that, or a person who knows how integral Martha is to 10's character arc. Has attempted to defend the "Space Jesus" scene a couple of times, and cried with happiness when Harbo Wholmes said that it worked in his review. Has a bit of a patchy relationship with Rose stans due to the Doctor's rebound arc, gets along better with Donna stans due to the fact that S4 acknowledged that 10 mistreated Martha. Generally has good taste and is nice to be around, just don't mention how undeveloped her relationship with Tom was.
Donna: Either a child of the late 90s/early 2000s who had the joy of watching New Who at it's peak in 2008, a person who really appreciates great character writing and an excellent series, or someone who just wanted a break from the companion having a romantic subplot. Often gets into heated arguments with Amy stans by (correctly) saying that Series 4 was better than Series 5. Uses Donna's funny dialogue and quips to hide the fact they are still recovering from one of the cruellest companion exits in the show. Generally nice, but very defensive of The Doctor's Daughter.
Wilf: I love these guys. Knows that a) Wilf is the single best character in the entirety of New Who and b) he counts as a companion. Has the best possible taste, and is an absolute joy to be around as a result of it. An emotional wreck after every single rewatch of The End of Time, especially now that the legendary Bernard Cribbins has left us. Has excellent relations with Donna stans, and was similarly overjoyed when they heard about the 60th. Refuses to admit that The End of Time would have possibly worked better as a 90 minute special.
Amy: Definitely has followed the eons-old teaching of "gaslight, gatekeep, girlboss" at some point. Refuses to admit A Good Man Goes to War was mid and that Amy really badly mistreated our sweet prince Rory in a large chunk of S5. Is really happy that Karen Gillan made it big in Hollywood. Friendly unless you say you prefer Rose to Amy. Could not be comforted after that cameo in Time of the Doctor.
Rory: Their favourite episode is usually The Girl Who Waited. Loyal, friendly, introverted and lovable, they of course identify with Rory's slightly long-suffering but accepting and funny character. Understandably annoyed at how Amy mistreated Rory in S5, but happy that S6 & 7A fixed that marriage. Thanks to Rory waiting for 2000 years, their bar for any personal relationship has been set insanely high. Celebrated when the BBC actually allowed Arthur Darvill to style his hair in S7A. Had to check Rory was definitely dead at the end of Angels Take Manhattan due to Moffat killing him whenever more tension was needed in a story.
River Song: Divided into two groups. Those who like River Song's more nuanced appearances in Silence in the Library, A Good Man Goes to War and The Husbands of River Song are awesome. Those who prefer the episodes that Moffat wrote with one hand, less so. Was overjpyed to see the Moffat Era reappraisal of 2020, only to be slightly disappointed when people said S6 was his weakest series. Wierdly enough, gets along nicely with all other companion stans. Has definitely said "Hello sweetie" to their partner/partners/friends/pets. If they prefer 12 and River to 11 and River, pass them the aux on a long journey (trust me on this one).
Clara: From my personal experience, there is a 60% chance that they are a closeted bisexual. Doesn't get why Clara was so overhated, especially in S9. Is wierdly OK with admitting that Victorian Clara was slightly more interesting to begin with, but knows that the character worked so well in 12's era. If they ship 11 and Clara, keep an eye on them. They haven't fully earned your trust yet.
Bill: Heterosexuality was never an option. Gets along well with Clara stans, as they both know how much the 12th Doctor's era s l a p p e d. Had their emotions mangled during the S10 finale, but fortunately came out intact thanks to that puddle and a happy-ish ending. Loved that Bill called 12 out on his bullshit and asked all the trivial questions we were all thinking. Singlehandedly drove the Moffat Era reappraisal over quarantine. Has the best fashion sense out of all the stans.
Nardole: A terrifying enigma. Looked at all the companions with complex stories, interesting arcs and major development, but instead went with the comic relief. Yes, Nardole is funny and a great support character, but... er... how? They can be nice. They can also be fans of Little Britain, which is a red flag. It's a roll of the dice.
Graham: Bradley Walsh was the highlight of the slightly undervalued S11, and they know it. Definitely has the vibe of being 10+ years older than they actually are in terms of attitude, but in the best way. Has definitely owned a pair of cords in their life. Goes into Doctor Who just looking for a fun hour of entertainment rather than lore. Great to hang out with. They always bring snacks.
Ryan: Tries to ignore the fact that Ryan has the most fucking insulting depiction of dyspraxia in any form of media (sorry, I have dyspraxia, and the way it was treated in S11 & 12 just really rubbed me the wrong way), but is also helpful and really in favour of spreading awareness. We're cool for now.
Yaz: One of the nicest, most well-intentioned people you will ever meet, always defending the underdog, supporting others and just being sweeter than a tea with six sugars, but also a master of illusion. Has read so many fan fictions, seen so much fan art and shipped Thasmin so much that they have tricked themselves into thinking Yaz is a three-dimensional, well-written character whose story was not completely made up on the go by Chibnall. Little more than a defeated husk after Power of the Doctor, being rewarded for all those years of fanfics, shipping and defending the era with a couple of longing stares and some hastily written "will they/won't they" scenes before 13 unceremoniously booted Yaz out of the TARDIS. Thinks Demons of the Punjab is the best 13 episode when it is really The Haunting of Villa Diodati.
Dan: Is more of a fan of John Bishop and his charisma than they are a fan of Dan, or is a terminally online person who thinks quoting "Evil Dan" videos makes them the funniest human alive (it really doesn't).
Want more of this for some reason? Try your Favourite Doctor or Favourite Master
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ramen-flavored · 8 months
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You know the episode of Doctor Who, The Lie Of The Land (S10 E8), when Bill was sacrificing herself to stop the monks and the Doctor was tied up, do you think he was having flashback to The Library (S4 E8-9) and watching River die????
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beenthere-donethat · 9 months
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The Doctor's name
Yesterday i had an epiphany.
I was re-watching Doctor Who, for like the 4th time and then, just like that, i came up with this absurde but brilliant theory: we actually know his name.
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Years ago i read a theory about why in the episode "school reunion" (ss3, ep3) the Doctor repeats the world 'physics' so much. We know that the TARDIS can't translate the language of Gallifrey. But people have to understand what he is saying(in this case the students). Being unable to translate what he was actually saying(for the language and the complexity of the argument) she translated it with something more simple: physics.
Somewhere along the history, it was revealed the name the Doctor used in academy, Theta Sigma. I don't think it is his actual name, because then everyone can know it and use it.
Also, the Doctor himself said that ONLY children can understand his real name.
If you connect the dots, it is really, really simple.
When in the the 11episode of the 10season, Missy says "Doctor who" is the Doctro's name, it's because it fucking is!!
The TARDIS can't translate gallifreyan(?)for reasons. So when the Doctor says his name is The Doctor, he IS saying his name.
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It is the same principle like with "physics": he IS saying something, maybe in gallifreyan, but the TARDIS makes it something else, something simple for us to understand. So, the same happens with the Doctor's name: it is translated into something we can understand, something that is near to our translation. The Doctor.
Children know his name, they understand it, they say it. It's just we can't understand it. We can't because....just because!! It is against the law.
Everyone knows his name, but it is different because that's what we hear when he says it!
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"Who are you?"
"I'm the Doctor"
"Doctor who?"
"Just, just THE DOCTOR"
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Always Missy, she says that he eliminated "who" from his name (so originally it was The Doctor Who) cause he didn't like it.
So,as the example above, he is correcting us on his name. His actual name, cause he erased Who.
In conclusion, i hope it makes sense, aaaaand WE ALWAYS HAD HIS NAME UNDER OUR NOSE!!!!
WE ARE SOOO STUPID.
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jackmcspringheel · 1 year
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12th Doctor Era + Text Posts
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how do you click into a characters ‘voice’ as well as you do? People are so consistently in characyer and I notice that as a unique standout of your writing
Advice for Writing Characters: Design, Arcs, and the Role of Plot
Warning: hella spoilers for my Doctor/Amy/Rory 'verse because that's what I'm using as examples for this writing breakdown of sorts.
First off, thank you so much for the compliment to my writing! I have worked so hard on my characterization over the years and it means a lot to hear that you liked it.
But onto the actual writing breakdown:
So I'm going to sound like every basic English teacher you've ever had to suffer through with this opening piece of advice, but it really is about practice making perfect. I wrote disastrous dialogue/characterization when I started out writing in 2014 (when I was 14). Looking back at my old characterization it's hot garbage. Dead awful.
But I have improved a lot over the years. A lot of that has to do with about my ability to sit down and re-watch episodes over and over again and find the right music to listen to, but a lot of it also has to do with the three things I always look to/think about when writing characters.
To be honest, I still have my weaknesses as a writer. I don't always like writing settings and I'm still improving on my action scenes and my intimacy scenes but my favorite things to write have always been a good extended metaphor and diving into character POVs. I write because I like exploring characters. There's a reason why the most popular additional tags on my ao3 account look like this:
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I love writing character-driven stories. Plot comes as a secondary device to link the character moments for me and not vice-versa (though I'm not gonna lie, I can occasionally come up with a decent plot twist, ala the Master, Clara-River-Ytroswinasleen, or Bill/Clara reveals). Writing characters is about exploring what threads twist themselves together to compel the character/story forward, whether that be backstory, current stressors, or what their motivations are to go forward.
For example, with the Doctors it's easy to explain because they're divided by era. To talk about Eleven, you have backstory: the ENTIRETY of Ten's character arc hope from Rose -> guilt/grief from losing her -> Martha/Donna helping him believe in himself/find joy again -> grief from losing Donna -> Time Lord Victorious leading into Adelaide Kane/him finally doing one kind thing for Wilf. Then, as shown in the only good moment in Let's Kill Hitler, his guilt over everything he did to those three. Then you have current stressors: the sheer loneliness he feels after regenerating alone/isolating himself, the guilt he feels after "abandoning" Amy as a child/leading to Rory's death, and the ever-present knowledge he has with every companion that humans do have a tendency to die/leave him.
Backstory and current stressors tend to play off of each other to lead to future actions, aka: Eleven freaking out and assuming that Amy and Rory will leave him after the baby is born and trying to cut them loose before he can or later, after we establish the Martha&Jack&the Master of it all (and the guilt that he still feels after how Ten handled All That Shit), it makes sense that he might go a little Time Lord Victorious when you find out that the Master was behind River's kidnapping because the Doctor finally has a family to get protective over.
And this is all just from one character point of view! It's also about how characters bounce off of each other- my absolute most favorite part of writing. It's what creates the most interesting parts of the story. When you have Rory's desire for a family/desire to do-no-harm/loyalty hitting up against Amy's desire to keep her family safe/the established ferocity of her love/her willingness to face danger in the face and not blink hitting up against the Doctor's fury of a time lord/guilt over doing things wrong the last time/desire to make things right not just for Martha and Jack and himself, but for Amy and Rory and River, things are bound to get not just messy but satisfying when you have Rory look the Doctor in the eye and tell him that he can't take that choice out of people's hands in the end. That the Doctor has to give River and Amy the choice that the Doctor didn't give Martha and Jack regarding the Master before.
Characterization is as much about a satisfying arc as it is digging into a character's mindset. As much as I love writing "character studies," that's only half of the battle when it comes to writing. Yes, you need to know where your character's head is at. But you also need to understand where they were and where they are going. Learning to figure out a satisfying bend to that curve is one of the greatest tools in an author's toolbox. I am constantly aiming to create as satisfying an arc as I can for every character, and this is usually the bit that fumbles most writers. You can come up with the coolest character design and then make their arcs either boring (sadly the case with a lot of Thirteen's companions in canon) or unsatisfying as hell (the case with Rory, River, and Amy's canon character arcs) because you don't plan them out well enough or just start and stop them within a single episode (everything regarding Mel/River Song in Let's Kill Hitler is a fantastic example).
The great thing about fanfiction is that since there are no limits for number of words or length of installments, I can throw words on the page regarding insights I have and figure out the order or how/where they fall later. I can rearrange episodes and give myself plots to bounce off of to develop characters. Because this is where plot comes in: it can give you an opportunity to explore a character in not just how they see themselves, or how they react to each other, but how they react to being challenged by their circumstances. That's how you get great moments in this series like exploring Eleven/Thirteen's unresolved loneliness with the Planet Sanatorium arc or Amy figuring out how to stop the mummy because of her own experience with war or Rory responding to the poisonous hallucinations or Amy getting closure by Eleven popping up as the voice interface or Thirteen seeing Rose in the Solitract or Amy's slow Doctorification thanks to how she reacts to Solomon/the TARDIS-as-Idris/the mummy/the pocket universe in Hide/the prison break situation or Bill figuring out the flesh in the database. You can only go so far with character motivations/their relationships with each other when you don't see how they react to conflict/challenge/separation. You can, however, use the challenges to directly lead into character arcs.
As a final example of all three elements coming together (motivation/character design, character interaction, and plot as challenge), I'll use Thirteen/Amy/Rory's arc. You don't get Thirteen, Amy, and Rory making up at the New Year's wedding if you don't have the arc of trust between them. The Cybermen are used entirely and only as a device to show their characterization/development off as characters. When they first appear, you get a glimpse into how the hundred-year separation has affected Thirteen and how her anger/fear/protective instinct go just as deep as Eleven, if not further, but also how she isn't sure if she can trust Amy/Rory yet, while you also get to see Amy's faith in the Doctor contrasting Rory's doubt but also the nuances of his position (loving her but not trusting her because she has revealed that Eleven didn't trust them). This leads into the Chameleon Arch plot which gives you Bill (my beloved) but also a view into Rory's changing opinion, both Amy and Rory's own development and their ability to hold their own, and the fact that the Doctor trusts them with her life. Then we get It Takes You Away and the realization that the Doctor would stay with Amy and Rory over anything, even Rose, then the wedding scene (kisses! rings! comms! Dr. Pond!). But then the Judoon come back after the Cybermen issue, prompting the TARDIS crash/the multidoctor fic where you get a stark contrast between Eleven at his worst and Thirteen at her best (fantastic place to explore characterization) where you also get to see Rory finally get closure/see that that he really does trust Thirteen. Then Thirteen giving herself up to the Judoon to protect innocent people AND because for the first time in the entire series she completely and fully trusts Amy and Rory to save her. The Cybermen as a villain don't truly matter in the end, other than some really fun imagery and exploring a bit of the mind control angle/just how far Thirteen is willing to go for Amy and Rory. It's about how Thirteen running against them provides the structure of sorts for her, Amy, and Rory's developing characters (and, hell, Bill, for that matter, regarding the Chameleon Arch/prison break plot), just as the Master provided an obstacle/structure for Eleven/Amy/Rory working through their own arcs.
...Whoops. That was a lot of writing. I'm almost sorry for all of that. But I hope that the three-step process made sense! I also recommend reading analysises of characters (and for a show like Doctor Who, I read analysises from both pro-Moffat and Moffat-critical blogs, same as with Chibnall) and just rewatching the show! You don't necessarily have to take notes or anything, just kind of take in thoughts you might not have thought of otherwise! For example, I got a lot from @tenmartha, @orpheustwelve, and @variousqueerthings, all of whom had completely interesting and different takes on Eleven, Amy, and Rory as canon characters!
Hope this gave you a good view into the process or even some advice for your own writing, and I hope you continue to enjoy my writing! (Right now I'm currently working on a much shorter, five-chapter AU to the end of Season 3 where Riley from "42" travelled with the Doctor/Martha for the last six episodes of Season 3, using these same three rules to explore the growing dynamic between Ten, Martha, and Riley, if you're interested.)
Thanks once again for the compliment- the absolute greatest gift I can receive as an author is questions/compliments like that!
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wrens-writings · 1 month
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ˏˋ°•*⁀➷ Doctor Who
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ೃ⁀➷ Nine
ೃ⁀➷ Ten
ೃ⁀➷ Eleven
ೃ⁀➷ Twelve
ೃ⁀➷ Martha Jones
ೃ⁀➷ Donna Noble
ೃ⁀➷ Amy Pond
ೃ⁀➷ Rory Williams
ೃ⁀➷ River Song
ೃ⁀➷ Clara Oswald
ೃ⁀➷ Bill Potts
ˏˋ°•*⁀➷ Ships
ೃ⁀➷ Whouffaldi
ೃ⁀➷ The Ponds
ೃ⁀➷ Twiver
ೃ⁀➷ Yowzah
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beezonia · 1 year
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This is for the doctor who pokèmon au!
Just some ideas for elite four and champions but not all of them cause I’m still trying to figure shit out lol
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12 - Champion
Type - Dark/Steel or he gets psychic types
His main is a bisharp
Elite four
Clara - She’s ghost type
Her main is a golurk
Nardole - Ice or fairy (idk he just gives me fairy vibes)
His main is definitely a klefki
Bill - fire types? Or electric
Her main would be arcanine
Okay now I’m struggling for a last one but it could be either Kate or missy
But for either it would be
Kate - Ice or flying
And I think her main would be a corviknight or skarmony
Missy - Psychic or Dragon
Her main is a hydregion
Four - Champion
Electric/fighting or steel
His main is klinklang
Sarah Jane - Ghost
Her main is a cofagrigus
Brigadier - ground or fighting
His main is Rhyperior
Romana - ice
Her main is froslass
Leela - Grass or Rock
Her main is either tropius or torterra
For Harry (he’s a gym leader)
Normal/water and his main is chansey
11 - Champion
Electric
His main is Ampharos
Amy - Fighting
Main is a meinshao
Rory - Bug
His main is a Leavanny
River - poison
Main is a scolipede
Annnd
This could be Kate here or idk so I’m putting Kate
So her main is probably a corviknight she’s flying type
For 5
Hes probably rock or even electric (lmk if this is a bad match up)
His main is a crustle
Tegan is a water or poison
Her main is a samurott maybe
Nysaa is dark
I like the idea of her having a Houndoom as her main
Not sure about the others yet maybe you guys can help plss!!
9 is dark again or maybe ghost 10 is electric
His main is a sableye (9) other one is a Manetric (10)
Rose is fire type
Her main is a rapidash
Jack is water/steel
His main is a Primarina
Martha is grass
Her main is a serperior
Mickey is Fighting
His main is a sawk
And that’s all I can really think of atm lmk what you think and help me choose some more or help me change some bits pls!!!
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im writing ANOTHER new fic! hehehe...those other ones are never getting finished...
anyways! would anybody be interested in seeing a human au where river and bill are a crime duo (very much gay, and very much dating), and when the doctor is told to arrest them, she does nothing but join in on the fun.
im writing this for me and myself, but if people are interested, i might post it
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I had some headcanons again :)
I'm just gonna copy them from discord so if the formating is weird that's why
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River would love forcing 12 to explore his fashion sense
Cus she complains that he's too conservative or lazy with his clothes
So she takes him clothes shopping!!!
Of course he's gravitating to all blacks and dark reds and gray
But she's going for color and 🌟pizzazz🌟
They don't really make any progress until river sees this one pair of leggings that she loves and so she shows them to 12.
And he likes them too OoO
They're mainly black but they have these crimson and bright red streaks that look SMOKING
12 is a bit hesitant seeing that they're leggings but he's willing to try them
And THEY WORK
River is in awe not only at the fact that the first time her doctor tried leggings it was the gray old man
But she's also in awe at HIS LEGS
HE PUTS THE LEG IN LEGENDARY
THEYRE LONG AND LEAN AND GORGEOUS
RU PAUL WOULD BE IN THE FUCKIN ER AT THE SIGHT OF 12S LEGS
River is basically on the verge of passing out
12 finally really looks at himself in the mirror and it dawns on him just how GORGEOUS he is
He starts pulling poses and shit
He makes sure to get a gander of his ass of course
They finally break the stunned silence.
12: I love it...
From then on 12 and river go looking for all the leggings and eventually 12 starts looking at shirts too
River gets an idea though and they check out the leggings and go back home
She pulls out a pair of scissors...
And some of 12s plain shirts...
12 hesitates but eventually decides to trust his wife
She cuts up one of his plain black shirts into a long sleeve crop top
The moment he put it on, something told them that this was the beginning of the doctors slut era >:3
The next day bill came in the tardis and was stunned into silence at the sight of her 6 foot tall stick bug skinny grey haired professor wearing leggings and a crop top
Bill: well.... you've had a wardrobe change...
12: yep! Nothing like a little push from your wife to help spice up your life! :D
Bill: what are you suddenly doing drag or something? Cus if you are then I'm certainly not complaining
12: drag? What's drag?
Bill: (idk how her jaw hasn't just dislocated yet) you don't know?
Naturally this leads to Bill giving 12 an in depth history lesson about drag and drag culture
12: well... that is certainly fascinating. still don't understand you humans obsession with gender but oh well
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susanpxvensie-wp · 2 years
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Jemma Fitzgerald + Her The Doctor’s Companions
I remember it all too well.
Read here: Wattpad, AO3
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expectiations · 1 month
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Bill: Doctor, where’d you get that bruise? the Doctor: *flashback to walking into a pole while looking at his picture of River* the Doctor: i'm in a gang, Bill
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sapphicsimpblog · 10 months
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Chapter four of my Doctor Who fic, The TARDIS Stages An Intervention is now posted!
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