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[timetodiverge]

Me, pretending be a normal, non-obsessive Star Wars fan: yes I liked the Ahsoka end credit sequence the Normal Amount

Also me, to anyone that will listen: note the use of the taiko drums to bring us back to Ahsoka's samurai/Japanese aesthetic as opposed to the Mandalorian's cowboy/Western aesthetic; the presence of non-Jedi force-users such as loth-wolves and purrgils suggesting Ahsoka's continued journey engaging with the Force beyond the Jedi-Sith binary; the weaving in of historical Star Wars soundtrack motifs such as Where the Sun Sails and the Moon Walks and Burying the Dead; and the exquisite timing & placement of actors' names within the sequence e.g. Natasha Liu Bordizzo when Sabine's theme from Rebels begins to play, David Tennant in the visually busiest and connected section of the star map indicating Huyang's long life and extensive connections, and Eman Esfandi at the visually most lonely part of the star map as the journey line heads into isolation. Also note the intensification of the taiko drums during Sabine's theme, an intriguing juxtaposition of the "Jedi" (/samurai) identity and "Mandalorian" (/cowboy) identity, linking both identities with Sabine, and linking Sabine and Ahsoka in the audience's mind. In this essay I will-

#literally started crying when I went back and watched Trials of the Darksaber to confirm Sabine's theme #have listened to this track on Spotify 6 million times #ahsoka #ahsoka tano #star wars rebels #star wars #star wars discussion #ahsoka end credits #star wars music #sabine wren #kevin kiner #ezra bridger

[dailydragon08]

Luke Skywalker who was bullied and called “wormie” and had a tense relationship with Owen and was lonely af, but who worked his ass off on the farm and was nice to people and dropped everything to help a stranger in need simply because they were in need anyway.

Luke Skywalker who was frustrated and impatient and chomping at the bit, but who took deep breaths and heard his mentors out but still did what felt right to him and went to save his friends even though he knew he was putting himself in danger by leaving before his training was done because they were his friends and he had to help them, there was no other option in his mind.

Luke Skywalker who lost the shining knight image of his father, his hand, his trust in his mentors, and his sense of identity all in one blow, but still went to the window to comfort Leia as Lando and Chewie left to look for Han anyway.

Luke Skywalker who had clearly learned a lot and become very powerful all on his own and blew up a crime lord’s palace to save his friends, but who went back to Dagobah to complete his training anyway because he thought “there’s always room to improve.”

Luke Skywalker who laughs at tiny teddy bears trying to arrest him and just hands his lightsaber over to them and is just chilling, absorbing everything while he’s tied up and pulling some harmless Force tricks while still perpetuating the idea that C-3PO is a god cuz it’s just too damn funny and he won’t be the one to shatter the Ewoks sense of how the galaxy works.

Luke Skywalker who comforts his sister even as he goes off to fight Vader and maybe die in the attempt (remember his line to the emperor “soon I’ll be dead and you with me,” man really thought he wouldn’t be coming back).

Luke Skywalker who was willing to cart Vader off with him to likely some remote corner of the galaxy and make up a plan as he went cuz he still loves his father and always believed he would come back to the light and just wanted a chance to be a real family.

Luke Skywalker who trusts in not only the Force, but connection, attachments, and himself.

This is my Luke Skywalker.

#luke skywalker #star wars #my thoughts #my luke thoughts #star wars discussion #anti disney #anti disney star wars #anti star wars sequels

[the-irreverend]

It's easy to watch this scene and think that Shin Hati is just another run-of-the-mill megalomaniac, but I think she is so much more than that.

When I watched this scene, I didn't see a person who wants power just for the sake of it, I saw a person who wants power because she's never had any to begin with (before Baylan took her in). She strikes me as someone who wants it because she wants to give herself the freedom she has been deprived of for so long and no longer be at the mercy of the chaos, turmoil, and malice found across the galaxy.

Baylan Skoll is a fantastic character, but that doesn't mean we should overlook the complexity and nuance that's found in his apprentice.

#ahsoka #baylan skoll #shin hati #ahsoka spoilers #ahsoka show #ahsoka series #ahsoka tv #star wars #star wars discussion #star wars ahsoka #ahsoka episode 6 #sw ahsoka

[squad-724]

Can we like, agree, that every Star Wars character has the mental age that their body is presenting?

Grogu is 50, but physically and mentally he's a young toddler.

Clones are 10-13, but are physically and mentally young adults.

You wouldn't ship Grogu with Obi-Wan, even if they're both 40 around the end of Clone Wars

Why would you ship a Ahsoka and Rex? You saw how YOUNG she was during the Siege of Mandalore. Just why?

#star wars #star wars discourse #star wars discussion #grogu #obi wan kenobi #ahsoka tano #captain rex

[hey-so-get-thiss]

Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher appreciation post

#mark hamill #princess leia #leia organa #slave leia #star wars fan #star wars discussion #star wars discord #star wars art #star wars #luke skywalker #bts #behind the scenes #behindthecamera #soul siblings #cute #friends #luke and leia #luke and vader

[movietimegirl]

I'm starting to see a lot of people ask this question: Why is Ahsoka training Sabine, when she refuses to train Grogu? Doesn't Sabine have attachments too?

And I think the answer is that Sabine is not force-sensitive like Grogu is. I assume the attachment rule doesn't apply to Sabine because of that. Ahsoka follows the old Jedi rules but I think her views will change in the show and that the old rules may not be great. Perhaps she'll learn these rules are partly responsible for Anakin's downfall.

#ahsoka tano #sabine wren #Grogu #din djarin #din grogu #anakin skywalker #the mandalorian #star wars ahsoka #star wars #disney plus #disney+ #star wars discussion #I'm sure the show will adress this #This is just a guess #For now we wait

[identityflawed]

the weird thing i've seen some people people do in the star wars fandom is insult people of the opposing viewpoint, not by providing evidence from the works themselves, but by throwing in real-world constructs/beliefs/events and then implying that these people support horrible things IRL because of their opinion on a fictional piece.

#like chill out dawg #it's rarely that serious #and if it is then it's your prerogative to kick their teeth in #but generalization is harmful it's so harmful it's so harmful and you KNOW it is harmful #star wars #star wars discussion

[skygirlstars]

not sure how to feel about the first two episodes of the Ahsoka series. it was okay I guess? I have a whole lot of thoughts and I already have some issues with it but I want to see how everything plays out first before I make any harsh judgements. mostly it just felt flat, from the plot to the characters. everyone just feels off in a way I'm not entirely sure how to explain.

there was definitely some good stuff. Huyang being an icon as usual! Chopper! Morgan Elsbeth is a Nightsister!!

making Sabine a Jedi is certainly a... Decision™ that I really don't like. Sabine was already a cool and interesting character!! she doesn't need to be a Jedi!! and a non-Force sensitive Jedi?? huh??? the way Ahsoka treats her also feels very out of character. we don't have any context for why yet, but it just feels wrong. we'll see where it goes.

but anyway, LOTH CATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#the Jai Kell cameo made me SO happy though #he's my Rebels glup shitto lol #although I really missed Dante Basco's voice :/ #star wars #ahsoka series #ahsoka series spoilers #ahsoka spoilers #ahsoka #ahsoka tano #sabine wren #loth cats #star wars discussion

[katadastical]

Can someone please explain the no attachments thing because there’s that interview with George Lucas where he said the Jedi are encouraged to love but they aren’t allowed to possess because that leads to all those negative emotions and that leads to the dark side. Like yes love the people around you but don’t try and control them or own them because it’ll lead you down a dark path I think that’s pretty healthy.

So why is the Jedi council so possessive, they try to control and dictate EVERYTHING that goes on, they instil this idea that forming any attachment is wrong that any emotion that could possibly be associated with the dark side is wrong.

They take issue with everything and anything romantic but for the most part platonic or paternal relationships go completely unnoticed despite those having the most potential for “attachment”. They talk of controlling emotions and being mindful which in itself is a good message but really ends up being a contest between them of who can bottle up and suppress themselves the best only giving up when they die or turn.

Not to mention how the emotionally repressed pyjama wearing lazar sword wielding knights running around braiding each others hair are the ones tasked with keeping peace across the Galaxy.

It’s very hypocritical, the more I think about it the more it breaks my brain and solidifies a lot of criticism toward the council, how are they supposed to empathise and connect with the people they’re trying to protect if they spend so much time shutting themselves off from any feeling?

I think that’s part of the reason Obi-wan became such a broken mess, my guy went through so much trauma and was left with no coping skills other than to suppress everything because he never had a chance to be trained properly and only had the Jedi councils guidance.

Idk that’s just my little rambling thoughts inspired by my favourite Jedi hippy Qui-Gon, if you have anything to add I’d love to hear! Have a great day

#please don’t bully me I’m not up to date with every single canon piece of content #please be nice I’m shy and the Star Wars fandom scares me #I just think the council are a little silly goofy sometimes #Star Wars #Star Wars lore #Star Wars discussion #prequels #sequels #og trilogy #star wars clone wars #my post #qui gon jinn #obiwan #obiwan is a mess #my poor blorbo

[whatevvvs]

My nichest Star Wars gripe is Wedge Antilles’ father’s name. This assholes name is Jagged Antilles. Yeah you hear that right Jagged Antilles. I read his name while I was scrolling down wedges wiki. I’ve never seen this man, I’ve never bothered looking him up. but I just know intuitively that I hate him. Not only is his name the dumbest thing I’ve ever read, his name doesn’t even make sense in the context of wedge’s name. Wedge’s name is a reference to the simple machine, because he’s a soldier and he’s an effective cog to a bigger machine. HOW THE FUCK DOES JAGGED FIT INTO THAT. WHATS WORSE IS THAT I CAME UP WITH A BETTER NAME LITERALLY WITHIN SECOND S OF READING THAT NAME. AXLE. AXLE ANTILLES.

SEE IT WASNT THAT FUCKING HARD TO COME UP WITH A GOOD FUCKING NAME. THIS FANDOM MAKES SUCH A FUSS ABOUT THE STUPID JOKE NAMES LIKE GREEDO OR BLEEBO OR WHATEVER THE FUCK, WHILE THE REAL CRIMES LIKE JAGGED GET OFF SCOTT FREE

#not only that but they did such a good job with wedge’s uncle’s name #like captain Raymus Antilles is so baller why did they have to drop the ball with Jagged #star wars a new hope #Star Wars tangent #star wars anh #star wars discussion #wedge antilles #raymus antilles #star wars rant #luke skywalker #star wars

[znerac]

Why do Twi’lek children have human ears in TCW while the adults just have cones for ears? Did anyone else notice this???

#star wars #star wars: the clone wars #star wars memes #swtmblr #twi’lek #anatomy in Star Wars is fucking weird #a new hope #star wars anh #Star Wars discussion

[timetodiverge]

TL:DR: a brief treatise on learning to love Ahsoka for the gifts it gave us, rather than its shortcomings

Reasons why I struggled to like Ahsoka on first watch:

-my Rebels-fan brain constantly chanting WHERE IS EZRA WHERE IS EZRA WHERE IS EZRA; every episode that ended without him had me screaming

-the portrayal of Ezra as some noble war hero/wise Jedi instead of the little shit devious street urchin thief who, after four seasons of growth, pain, and temptation to turn darkside, turned into an IGnoble war hero with the potential to become a wise Jedi

-the show's habit of far-too-casually dropping facts that emotionally wrecked Rebels fans (ALL the Wrens died on Mandalore?? Could we maybe explore that a bit?? Dave do you remember when you had Sabine collapse into what she thought were her mother's ashes, and the depth of her relief when she realised her family was still alive and she still had a chance to make things right with them?? DO YOU???)

-the show's refusal to recap/reference insanely important events from Rebels and The Clone Wars (Mortis Gods, Trials of the Darksaber, Vader v Ahsoka and Ezra rescuing her via the World Between Worlds, Ahsoka's entire existence, etc) that would have made Ahsoka, Sabine, & Hera's importance in the larger Star Wars universe much more comprehendible for non-Rebels & TCW fans

-watching Sabine, who only ever wanted to be a valued, equal member of a family & team, and who was already incredibly skilled (art/warfare/mechanics), belittling and limiting herself trying to play the part of Jedi Padawan

-the wasted potential of show that could have truly explored how non-Jedi&Sith engage with the whole spectrum of the Force (e.g. other force users such as Nightsisters, loth wolves, purrgil, and non-force-sensative people such as Sabine), instead ultimately championing the light-dark binary and the traditions of the Jedi order (which many of us have little respect for) such as the Master-Apprentice relationship

Reasons why I now adore Ahsoka and would defend it to the death:

-the breath-taking care, love, and attention the production team put into every tiny detail (the sets, the costumes, props, the MUSIC, the background art, the ships and weapons, my god the detail!!)

-the shameless centring of diverse, layered female characters and the exquisite, subtle performances of Mary Elizabeth Winstead & Genevieve O'Reilly

-a mature exploration of how traumatic events e.g. wars may technically "end", but don't end for everyone: Ahsoka and Sabine are still traumatised ex-child soldiers mourning people they desperately loved but had complex & unresolved issues with; Hera still has zero boundaries between being a soldier and her personal life. And this PTSD has very real consequences to the narrative

-the show ultimately resisting the urge to choose a plot-twist Ezra reveal (e.g. turns out Thrawn and Ezra are now buddies/Ezra is the new big bad/Ezra was Marrok), which may have been more interesting but would have deprived us of the wholesome Ezra reveal we actually wanted

-Eman Esfandi giving us the most successful animation-to-live-action transition since Katee Sackhoff's Bo-Katan, and being so perfect in his mannerisms and behaviour that it was almost worth the wait (and looking so much like Ezra's father in Rebels!!)

(...unless you include Chopper, whose transition was actually 120% perfect)

-ultimately refreshing and levelling-up the potential for mature and diverse Star Wars narratives, like Andor did, but instead of leaning away from SW tropes and traditions like Andor, digging deeper into SW tropes and history, and linking non-mainstream-SW-elements such as the Nightsisters of Dathomir, the Mortis Gods, the World Between Worlds, and the existence of other galaxies

#we interrupt our normal schedule of shitposting to bring you this brief moment of seriousness #ahsoka #star wars rebels #sabine wren #ezra bridger #the clone wars #star wars #ahsoka tano #star wars discussion

[dailydragon08]

I hate the “no attachments” rhetoric so much and I hate that both Ahsoka and Luke in Mando and TBOBF fell straight back into it. Cuz they especially should know more than anyone that the feelings of isolation, feeling like you’re not in a safe space to healthily process your emotions—which requires actually feeling them and being in an environment where you’re allowed to feel them—and feeling like you have a support system where you can speak your feelings without judgment to get guidance and support is REQUIRED for Jedi to stay on the light side. Cuz loneliness, feeling like a burden, feeling like if you have one bad emotion it makes you all bad because of rules around feelings that are unrealistic and too rigorous makes you way more susceptible to the dark side.

Trying to beat bad emotions out of people completely is unrealistic. Expecting literal children to not feel those feelings and just know what to do with them cuz you’ve created a space where those feelings are forbidden is unrealistic. Pushing feelings and emotions down and “burying” them (re: obi wan telling luke “bury your feelings deep down” in ROTJ) and expecting those people to be perfectly healthy is unrealistic. Wanting this level of control over people, their thoughts, and their emotions, and this black and white thinking is not only toxic and dangerous, but is akin to cult culture. The PT era Jedi were extremists in this way and just too blind and couldn’t accept any criticism enough to see it because for some reason, a bunch of old guys decided evolution was not allowed and they’d just keep running the system the same way they always had with no room for change and that would somehow be this foolproof path to survival—which is a complaint a lot of people have about our current irl political system and is causing a lot of damage, btw.

Like wasn’t that the whole point of showing the Jedi’s fall? And doesn’t clone wars especially show how this thinking created all these cracks in the system that Palpatine was easily able to exploit and manipulate and Anakin was just someone who wanted change in the order and he was ostracized for it, so Palpatine latched onto him and Anakin was like “oh finally someone values me,” just to be manipulated and abused and have his whole life blown up to the point that he thought the empire was his only option (obv not excusing the atrocities, just saying I can see how he got to where he did mentally by ROTS)? Like he literally tells Luke that they can team up to overthrow the emperor and in ROTJ, when Luke tries to get him to run with him pre-throne room battle, he says “it’s too late for me,” so he KNOWS this is bad and only going to get worse, but has resigned himself to it.

Like wasn’t the whole point of the OT and the “I can’t kill my own father/there’s still good in him/I can turn him back to the good side” meant to prove that Jedi DO NEED healthy connections in order to thrive and stay on the light side? If they wanna forbid anything, they should be forbidding possession and control, but the PT Jedi Council instead used that for their own benefit and lacked any self awareness to see they’d just become what they were preaching against.

Like give me a post-OT Jedi council who teaches healthy connection and letting things go that aren’t meant for you to control and that friendships and relationships can be powerful things that bring you back to the light in your darkest moments, and a more Legends-esque New Jedi Order that values emotional health and well-being and is a safe space for not only the galaxy, but Force sensitives, no matter how they’re built instead of trying to force everyone into the same box. This is the order I wanted to see Luke cultivate in canon and I will forever be salty that this isn’t what we got.

#luke skywalker #star wars #star wars discussion #anti sw sequels #anti disney star wars #anti jedi #anti jedi council #anti prequel era jedi #new jedi order #anakin skywalker #darth vader #anti no attachment #the mandolarian #tbobf #mandolorian spoilers #the book of boba fett #tbobf spoilers #the book of boba fett spoilers

[leftcolornacho]

Do you ever think about the fact that Galactic Empire existed for 19 years???

Like. Nineteen years. Great Galactic Empire led by evil, self-proclaimed Emperor who uses terrors and dark powers trying to rule the whole world

And it all lasted less than a human lifetime (and to not forget a huge role in its overthrowing played a blonde twink with a power of friendship)

And before that, The Republic existed for thousands of years, Jedi were known all across the galaxy and mostly trusted as guardians of peace

Then one sly douchebag of a man came along and decided to turn it all around, telling people that the system that lasted for longer than anyone could remember was evil and wrong

I'm not denying the corruption of the republic's senate or the fact that Jedi became soldiers at Senate's service and badly misinterpreted their own values

(That of course doesn't excuse literal genocide that was the start of the Empire)

But if that corrupted Republic was at least transformed into something better, slavery and hunger was ended, criminal lords making outer rim a living hell brought to justice, safety of all citizens ensured and overall if people's life were just better

BUT NO

IT WAS REPLACED WITH SOMETHING HUNDREDS TIMES WORSE

Sure, Republic was corrupted and system was failing its citizens and democracy was just an illusion

But at least everyone could criticize the people in power without going to prison

They could protest without getting killed

They could expect fair trial if they were arrested

That was kinda cool

And democracy wasn't wholly working as it was intended but it was there, there were decisions made by voting instead of blind following orders of a rotting old man

So on the other hand, how did it last whole nineteen years?

Of course, convincing people by propaganda that it's all for their own good while slowly taking away their rights and keeping them in line by fear when they tried to protest

But other than that, probably there are some mechanism of regimes that don't know of or understand

And I could be wrong about what I said about the Republic, if so correct me

I invite everyone to discussion

#star wars #oryginal trilogy #star wars rebels #luke skywalker #rebels #swr #star wars discussion #star wars original trilogy #sw #because reallt that's fascinating for me #and the fact that rebels existed since the very beginning of the empire

[swctt868]

Tonight (9th Nov) at 7:30pm EST / GMT -4!

Join us in our Discord server as we chat about the recently concluded first season of Ahsoka via our monthly Jedi Council Discussion.

Guest speakers for this VC discussion have already been selected, but everyone else is welcome to listen in and type commentary.

Jedi Council Discussions on the SWCTT Discord server are virtual monthly panel discussions on various Star Wars topics, with past topics including games, fan merch, speculations and aired TV shows

#ahsoka series #ahsoka #discord server #star wars #swctt #ahsoka spoilers #ahsoka tano #sw ahsoka #panel discussion #live show #ezra bridger #sabine wren #hera syndulla #chopper #baylon skoll #huyang #thrawn #star wars discussion #shin hati

[hey-so-get-thiss]

Star Wars Discord

ALRIGHT EVERBODY!!! I am making an lgbtq+ friendly star wars server that is also 18+ I know that is disappointing for some people I am sure but It is just what I am comfortable with! It is not an rp server which I have had a hard time finding honestly. Please feel free to reach out to me for an invite link!

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