#talk to me about Jason Grace

[ma-lark-ey]

I am begging for us to talk about Jasper/Jiper. Please. Please

If you've only read HoO, you don't understand them. You don't. Jason and Piper had an amicable breakup that both recognized was NECESSARY after both came to the separate conclusion that their entire relationship was forced proximity and compulsory because of their respective mother/mother-figure, and THATS. are you KIDDING ME?? I love them.

Jason and Piper stayed close friends, and while it was awkward and they had to piece back together who they were as a pair, they stayed a pair. They didn't leave each other behind.

If you haven't read TBM yet, allow me to show you the scene Piper finds out he dies:

She spends a good portion of time holding his bleeding, drowned corpse, trying to list to Apollo all the ways they could bring him back. Physician's cure, Cherokee plant cures, the Doors of Death, etc. Apollo tells her, "Jason Grace struck me as many things, but he wasn't a cheater. Would he want you to rend the heavens and the earth and the underworld to bring him back?" Her eyes flashed angrily. "You don't care because you're a god. You'll go back to Olympus after you free the Oracles, so what does it matter? You're using us to get what you want, like all the other gods." "Hey," Meg said, gently but firmly. "That won't help." Piper pressed a hand on Jason's chest. "What did he die for, Apollo? A pair of shoes?" ... "They're here." I scooped them up, my hands trembling. "At least- at least we have them." Piper let out a broken sob. She stroked Jason's hair. "Yeah, yeah, that's great. You can go see your Oracle now. The Oracle that got him KILLED!" ... As we made out way up the rickety stairs, I wasn't sure which felt heavier: my exhausted body, or the cannonball of grief and guilt that had settled in my chest. All the way to the house, I heard Piper's sobs echoing off the dark cliffs.

(pg. 310-313)

Like, yeah they weren't romantic partners but these two were in love. They were a duo against the world. They were best friends, even if they were going through a rough patch.

You all don't understand. Jason REFUSED to let Piper go on the quest, because he knew that whichever of them went with Apollo, would die. And he couldn't let her die. The thought of living without her made her sick, of ridding the world of her? He couldn't bare it, even though, throughout this book, he iterates he knows it will break her for him to die. It's a selfish sacrifice, because he can't live without his best friend. Because REMINDER, HE STILL THINKS LEO IS DEAD.

im emotionally unwell over Jasper. End of story. They're perfect. they're besties. Jason deserved better. Hope he's vibing down in Elysium and I hope one day he, Piper, and Leo, get the happy days they deserve together FUCK

#riordanverse #jason grace #piper mclean #lark rants #heroes of olympus #hoo #trials of apollo #the burning maze #the burning maze spoilers #trials of apollo spoilers #talk to me about Jason Grace #Im begging you #i have so many thought about him and piper #also hot take he's transfemme THANK YOU #leaving that one in the tags though

[deansxharley]

i feel like the only reason that leo and annabeth aren't Best Friends is because jason and percy are doing everything within their powers to make sure that doesn't happen, for everyone else's safety and sanity. piper on the other hand... piper dares them to make stupid and dangerous inventions and watches the chaos unfold

#you can't tell me they didn't pull all nighters on the argo ii just talking about engineering and architecture #they'd be pure chaos together i just know it #percy and jason are Terrified #also yes this is a valgrace post #percabeth #valgrace #leo valdez #annabeth chase #i am electing to ignore jason's fate #jason grace is alive and well trust me he told me himself #percy jackson #jason grace #piper mclean

[happyk44]

jason who has no emotional connection to his traumas and will talk about his experiences so easily and casually like he's talking about making a sandwich for lunch vs leo who has so much emotional connection to his traumas trying to get him to talk about it is like trying to pry open a locked steel door with a plastic fork

#anyway this is my way of asking does anyone actually know about leo's upbringing prior to tlh? #i don't really remember him talking about his struggles with anyone? or anyone considering it when thinking of him? so 👀👀 #happy talks pjo #leo valdez #jason grace #me and jason are the saaaaaaame. except after im usually like oh wait was that appropriate and jason doesn't wonder that at all lol #the autism probably also affects that too but whatever

[splankie]

call me a jasonologist if you will

#ok i do NOT believe he would own all these clothes #this guy has got 2 pairs of faded blue jeans three polos and 5 wolf shirts that he rotates constantly #however.... i really wanted to draw a lot of jasons #and my friend suggested i should do a colour wheel colour palette so i was like okayy yayyy he has cute clothes now #also um gay pride colour scheme. if you squint #also percy looks taller than jason but HE ISNT i just messed up #anyway this was a pretty speedy one considering how many individual drawings there are #super fun.... i love jason..... #literally i am not kidding if anyone ever wants to talk to me about jason grace PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE #I LOVE THIS BLONDIE #also this was just kinda me satiating my love of bright colours #oh oh also i hope everybody ever likes my thalia design #i usually think ppl tend to draw her way too tame... #her hair specifically #jason grace #hoo #pjo #percy jackson #thalia grace #pjo fanart #hoo fanart #art by cricket

[m-for-now]

Does anyone have fun headcanons for some random events that happened at Camp Jupiter during the time of the Titan war? Because we know next to nothing about the Romans but I refuse to believe they didn't have any crazy weird events and quests.

Like, if the Seven were to talk about the time before HoO (or generally any Romans and Greeks) and Percy and Annabeth would go like "Oh and we went through the sea of monsters and ended up on Circe's Island that one time" or "and that's how Percy showed up to his own funeral", sure, that would be a crazy story. But Jason also defeated a Titan on his own and Reyna only ever went to CJ After Percy and Annabeth were at Circe's island, what was the crazy stuff that happened in between?

Also what did the Romans think Caused the Titan War since they obviously couldn't have known it was Luke?

#anyone please share your headcanons #i hate that Jason didn't get his memories back #and honestly i think Rick just also has no idea what really happened at CJ #but like #we could've had Reyna talk about it #or Octavian to the Romans if he wasn't gonna tell the Greeks #ignoring the fact that CJ fully abandoned Jason (in favour of a Greek?!) #there could've been a beautiful little moment with him #and Reyna #and any other friends if he had any #where they talk about their past experiences and memories #Please if it's not an epic quest #share your silly little things #jokes or insiders or just funny little events that might've occured #i don't see enough of these #jason grace #heroes of olympus #riordanverse #reyna ramírez arellano #reyna avila ramirez arellano #octavian #ffs even him #how did the quests work with him as the augur #someone tell me pls #camp jupiter #pjo hoo toa #pjo headcanon #new rome #luke castellan #kinda

[bakedbananners]

I think any criticism you can apply to Jason being a boring main character could just as easily be applied to anyone else in the Seven because the entire Heroes of Olympus series lacks a strong definitive narrative voice in general

#like pulling myself out of the narration and observing it on a meta level I can tell all these characters have individual traits and yet #every situation they’re out in boils down to like. showing ‘bravery’ and that’s pretty much it #and you get seven characters trying to live up to their godly namesakes #when otoh the series is showing how much the gods truly need these mortals #and it just feels like it’s going in redundant circles with its thematic point #if you want to show how the gods need demigods and mortals then… #why did you build an entire narrative focusing on their GODLY powers… #Anyways when reading hoo I get the feeling that every character reads almost exactly the same most of the time #he could have made Jason the only narrator and it would’ve felt much more cohesive #and i think people would complain less about him being ‘boring’ #pjo and toa and MCGA all feel much better to read imo #riordanverse #pjo #pjo hoo toa #hoo #heroes of olympus #percy jackson #jason grace #me talking

[screenshotsonpinterest]

Rick riordan just wanted to write a classic, straight, Superman hero character and put him through some one dimensional development

And the rest of us said no actually that’s a feral gay man and you know what fuck you he’s black now too

And that’s why he skewered him

#don’t talk to me about how Jason and Piper and Reyna deserved better #I actually can’t think about it too hard I’ll die #Jason grace #heroes of olympus #rick riordan #valgrace #pjo hoo toa #the burning maze spoilers #toa spoilers #we die like Jason #Percy Jackson #black jason grace

[hazellvsq]

roman prequels where the 4 main roman characters were all there for at least a few years together. jason and reyna are the main characters dealing with the impending titan wars, their own rises to power and relationship as co-leaders, and their tragic pasts. hazel and frank are the secondary leads who despite having equally compelling plotlines exist solely to provide comedic B plots. like so:

plot A: jason fights sirens who tempt him with the truth that he never wanted power and wants more than anything to escape.

plot B: hazel gets stuck in a tunnel and has to get frank to dig her out before she misses evening role call.

plot A: reyna negotiates an uneasy political truce with the amazons, complicated by not knowing that her sister was now the leader.

plot B: frank's grandma turns up and keeps EMBARASSING him in the dining hall by yelling about his destiny or whatever.

plot A: dramatic heart-wrenching flashbacks to jason's abandonment

plot B: flashback where hazel's death is scored to looney tunes sound effects

the two plotlines usually intersect in some convoluted way. the sitcom continuity button resets at the end of each installment - reyna and jason never lose their positions no matter how badly they mess up, frank and hazel never come off probation even if they do something right. if either pair fights or admits to romantic feelings, it gets resolved at the installment's end with no change in the status quo of the relationship. the biggest developments come from the story's tone - what starts as one tale of heroism and another tale of comedy dovetail into an increasingly dark and absurd overarching plotline about the futility of "new rome"

#this is so silly but i couldn't stop thinking about it #people used to talk about how jason/reyna was the roman percy/annabeth #well now hazel/frank is the FAILURE jason/reyna. to me #although if you think about it all who endeavor to serve the gods are failures. which is the point. #jason grace #reyna avila ramirez arellano #hazel levesque #frank zhang

[virtualflowerbatathlete]

I am 100% open to all headcanons, I love bisexual!Piper and bisexual! Jason, but gay! Jason and lesbian! Piper scratch an itch for me that can’t quite be explained.

#it’s about loss of identity and comphet #it’s about never being given the opportunity to discover who they were #and so they were forced into heteronormative roles #there are so many Piper chapters where she described exactly what comphet feels like #(I am a lesbian) #and I could talk about Jason for hours #jason grace #piper mclean #lesbian #percy jackson #percy jackon and the olympians #heroes of olympus #valgrace is canon to me idc #pjo hoo toa

[rosesradio]

jason's roman vs greek identity crisis in the books is comparable to troy bolton in which it was really about being bisexual all along

#jason’s pov is just ‘oh this is the Plot. but am i Greek or Roman? also i really miss nico. our Special Talks mean so much to me. anyways’ #bro was literally bleeding out from a stab wound within the first few chapters of BoO (i’m listening to the audiobook)— #& he was using his dying thoughts to think about both piper & nico 🤨 #highly suspicious i would say #jason grace #jasico #pjo #hoo

[aroaceleovaldez]

i think there is a fundamental misunderstanding people make when approaching Jason’s character, but to explain it I must first go on a tangent -

One of the things that’s really interesting with the demigod characters is that, while they are independent personality-wise of their divine ancestors, and their personality is never fully reflective of their divine ancestors, demigods still always have personality traits that are strongly related to an aspect of their divine ancestor(s). For a lot of demigod character this is even the same trait that presents itself in different ways, particularly in CHB. Demeter kids tend to be rooted - usually presenting as them being stubborn and resistant to change or opposing opinions. Apollo kids tend to be self-focused. Hades kids tend to be driven by their relationships/bonds to others. Percy and Tyson are the only Poseidon kids, but Percy’s seems to be that outwardly he appears to be an unpredictable wildcard, when this is not necessarily true. The sea is not wholly unpredictable - if you learn it, you will learn the patterns that drive it, and that it is subject to many outside influences (the moon, the sun, winds, etc). It just looks unpredictable to those who do not bother to learn (which, btw, is a GREAT metaphor for ADHD imo).

Jason and Thalia represent two specific spheres for Zeus/Jupiter (and in Jason’s case, Hera/Juno as well). Thalia is Zeus as King of the gods. She is a natural leader. She works well in leadership positions and tends to lead logically. This is why she’s the lead Huntress of Artemis.

Jason does not represent Jove and Juno as King and Queen of the gods. Jason represents Juno and Jove as mother and father of the gods. This is why he tends to fall naturally into leadership positions in groups but simultaneously struggles in them in some scenarios but not others. He dislikes leading an army and being seen as perfect and above others because he is not acting from the perspective of a king, he is acting from the perspective of a member of a family unit. He is not the leader of an army, he is a wolf in a pack. He leads emotionally. He’s protective of his group. Yes, he is a bit of a dad-friend! But at the same time he is adverse to putting himself above the group! Yes, he falls into leadership positions, but only to a certain degree. He works best in a group he’s familiar with. He works better in smaller groups.

To Thalia those specifics don’t matter, because she’s not working from a more personal perspective like Jason does. Thalia could lead groups Jason is normally put in charge of, but Jason would not be able to lead Thalia’s groups. But also Thalia is not devoid of Zeus-as-a-father-god traits either! That was basically her entire dynamic with Annabeth (and Luke)! And Jason isn’t wholly devoid of Jupiter-and-Juno-as-rulers-of-the-gods either, he is capable of tapping into that- and he does so! But he is always primarily Jove-and-Juno-as-parents-of-the-gods first and foremost.

And that’s a really interesting character trait to play with! It’s so cool picking apart characters and seeing how they embody traits and aspects of their divine ancestors! And you can lean into that in so many things! If you’re writing meta/character analysis, if you’re writing a specific character for a fic or something, if you’re making a demigod OC - heck, I use this sort of analysis of what traits are common for demigods of specific divine ancestors for assigning cabins/etc to characters (and people, if I am requested to do so).

#pjo #percy jackson #hoo #heroes of olympus #jason grace #thalia grace #meta #analysis #okay there's my daily insanity #btw i am absolutely always down to talk about my analysis relating to this concept of demigods embodying personality traits of their parents #it is extremely fascinating to me and i love picking apart characters to begin with but this is picking apart characters PLUS MYTHOLOGY #so goodness knows i am obsessed with this #tbh not gonna bother to proofread this yall get pure brain-dump

[kanicrow]

riordanverse characters as taylor swift songs but it’s who comes to my head first and there’s no reason to like most of these

nico: antihero (literally just all of midnights tbh), eyes open

will: safe and sound, jump then fall, stay stay stay (that one part in tsats)

in my mind wills mom is, taylor swift (all I could think about while reading tsats)

annabeth: if this was a movie (?) mastermind, would’ve could’ve should’ve, seven (LITERALLY HER SONG????)

percy: the great war, this is why we can’t have nice things

magnus: shake it off (no clue, don’t ask), blank space (AGAIN I DONT KNOW)

jason: august (bro just trust me)

bianca: bigger than the whole sky (UAGHHHH)

piper: getaway car (LMAO)

alex: gorgeous (bro just trust me), ME! (PLEASE ITS MOSTLY A JOKE)

leo: red (yeah), cowboy like me (yeehaw)

hazel: snow on the beach (idk makes me think of her), marjorie (what died didnt stay dead?!?!)

frank: the archer (OK LISTEN)

#most of this is just trust me bro #i’m highly qualified #i know what i’m talking about #definitely #riordanverse #magnus chase #alex fierro #nico di angelo #will solace #percy jackson #annabeth chase #jason grace #frank zhang #hazel levesque #piper mclean #leo valdez #bianca di angelo #taylor swift

[yourthirdparent]

jason but he's more god than man.

he's become the priest of the gods, he's brought respect to their names once more, he's brought their children to safety.

he's spent more days among them than apart.

because he's not just the son of jupiter, he's descended from more of the others than he can count. he's the champion of the queen of the gods. he's favoured by his brothers, by his sisters, by the goddesses who've taken him as their child, by the deities he's worked so hard to help. he's the priest of the greek and roman pantheons.

and he was already less human than the others.

and he might not have been human to begin with.

he covers his cuts quickly so no one can see that he bleeds the wrong colour.

no nobody knows he bleeds more gold than red.

#hm. #blessed jason #it's like cursed jason but different #and worse #but different #i simultaneously want him to be like 'demigods bleed red not gold' but at the same time i want him to have incomprehensible power #anyways legacy of like almost every god ever jason is so real to me. talk to the wall #like certain gods. probably not. but like a lot of them #like he's not a legacy of like pluto or mars or something but like. athena. venus. #also yeah that's athena not minerva. 1 minerva doesn't have kids like athena #2 i like the idea that he was already greek and roman and that he was embracing it more than deciding it. #sorry about all the tags rip #jason grace #pjo #hoo #allfatherly guidance #oh yeah also pardon if this feels like a ripoff of the cursed jason blogger's format. it is #i wanted to emulate the vibe but also did it badly. sue me.

[happyk44]

Percy could kill with a snap of his fingers but won't because he doesn't understand or practice his own powers enough to realize he can do that.

Jason could kill with a snap of his fingers but won't because when he was young he preferred to feel the kill beneath his own hands, clenched tight between his teeth and as he grew he was told to only use his powers when absolutely necessary, otherwise hide them away and fight with only sword and shield.

Hazel could kill with a snap of her fingers but won't because she doesn't know how.

Thalia could kill with a snap of her fingers but won't because she is as unfamiliar with her powers as Percy, not because she doesn't understand them, but because she values the hunt and the chase and so sets them aside in favour of teamwork with her fellow hunters.

Nico could kill with a snap of his fingers and he will, when he needs to. He's kind, and patient, willing to fight until the bitter end in hopes that they'll cave, they'll desire life and give themselves up. But not everyone, not every creature, deserves to live and standing between him and his goals, ugly at the core of their soul, sometimes he'll decide they've lived long enough and snap his fingers, shattering their body into bits and pieces so violently their soul flings out and severs itself in the process.

#nico di angelo #hazel levesque #jason grace #thalia grace #percy jackson #do you guys want me to go into depth about how i think they could instantaneously with their powers because I'll do it #fucking I'll go into depth anyway about jason and thalia's powers at least because GOD we do not talk enough about the sky babies abilities #i know i have deep in my jason tag but that is too much scrolling for me rn #happy talks pjo

[yonemurishiroku]

Jason is a well—built tall, blue-eyed blond man with a scar.

Luke is a well—built tall, blue-eyed blond man with a scar.

Percy...

HELL YEAH!!!

This is also why I find it sad there’s rarely any Jercy fanfic with reference to Luke, whereas it’s pretty common for Luke to be used as a plot device (aka: a bad ex) in… any other fanfics? I even headcanon Luke as Percy’s ex-hero-crush, so with the fact that Percy-Jason are some sort of rivals throughout HOO, there could have been so much interesting interactions you know?

I mean. The potential is there. The reference is there. The parallel is there. But it seems like I’m the only one who’s obsessed with a High School AU of a love triangle/ square/ polygon like what——

#luke and jason have many things alike TRUST ME #THIS IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT AKXHJWHD #pjo #hoo #toa #yone rambling #percy jackson and the olympians #heroes of olympus #trials of apollo #jason grace #percy jackson #luke castellan #jercy #lukercy

[a-wins-a-win]

unpopular opinion?? maybe?

Matt & Ivy have a really interesting dynamic!! both pre- and post-canon!! with or without romantic undertones!! either reciprocal or one-sided!!

and obviously it has to be handled with a particular level of care/respect BUT I think if we allowed them enough grace there is space to explore a really interesting possibility for that relationship.

#obviously Matt is not ENTITLED to Ivy - im absolutely not saying that at all #and he definitely did a lot of things extremely wrong and Ivy doesn’t HAVE to forgive him - she doesn't even have to *like* him #and in many stagings she actually doesn’t at all! even pre-canon she isn't into him on a *platonic* level - which i love for her #but I also think that - misguided & clumsy about it though he was - Matt is genuinely trying his best to see her as a person. #an idealized version of a person yes. but a person nonetheless. #which is what Ivy wants from Jason (and tbf he sees her as a person also but it’s an obviously different situation) #and while you can't force romantic compatibility (that was like. the whole point.) in some versions of the show they're not-quite-dating #- in varying types of “situationship” with varying levels of commitment. so it's not insane to me to say hey #maybe they need time to stabilize themselves and figure out who they are again after the events of the show. but maybe a couple years - #- down the line they reconnect and they're both in a better place & maybe this time it can all work out. #idk I think I just see a lot of people write it off entirely - and they’re well within their rights to do so don’t get me wrong #but I don’t think it’s fair necessarily to put them in the ‘doomed to fail’ category #wow okay I care about them as a pair more than I realised #tldr; give Matt & Ivy and their relationship dynamic the grace + complexity they deserve #mouse talks bapo #bare a pop opera #Ivy Robinson #Matt Lloyd #[as a side note - sometimes I think about queer Matt & transmasc Ivy & the interesting concept of their potential boyfriendism]