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shallowseeker · 4 months

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Hey Shal, I have a question about your family diner meta. Mad respect, but in the Leviathan arc Biggerson's is made out to be a bad thing. I was wondering if you have any thoughts on that, since in the Cas tablet meta where Naomi attacks Cas, you talk about Biggerson's being bigger sons -> better than their fathers because of their bigger hearts is a good thing? Anyway, I'm hoping this comes across as a friendly question!

I tend to shy away from writing about some stuff from that season, because a lot of it seems very era-attenuated. Example: how an average librarian is referred to as "Chubby" and her beau as "Chub-chaser" in Repo Man. In general some of the mean despair over "fat people" in this season comes off Hollywood-seedy and thoughtless, but it's soooo of the times.

For a little while era, the documentary SuperSize Me reigned supreme in every bit of small-talk and in every classroom. Jessica Simpson was a frequent target of weight-shaming, including this hugely publicized fiasco from 2009, when she looked like a walking dream BTW.

In this way, SPN is like a time capsule. (Like how, if you were alive at the time during post-"war on terror," Torture was the big topic in every current events class, verging on a buzz word.)

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Yes, Biggerson's is a BIG motif in season 7, and with negative connotations. It's a nod to SuperSize Me. It's especially damning for the punching-down attitudes in Hollywood.

I want to point out that although the name is cheeky, Biggerson's wasn't even inherently bad in-world.

The Leviathan were a rotten supplier to this family chain industry, dosing their food with additives, which mirrors a lot of the real-world chatter that was going on about trans-fats, partially hydrogenated oil, etc. People were working really hard to get them banned!

When you get down to it, the people inside Biggerson's were being actively preyed upon.

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What I think I want to carefully pivot to is the dark side of humanity and family, that of consumerism and exploitation.

I think overall that the family diner is still a positive motif, but as with every motif, there's a shadow side--the uncharitable side, a side that can be carried to extremes.

The "shadow self" of the family diner motif is excess and greed exploiting the family by ravaging its most basic requirement to survive: shelter and nourishment.

They are making humans into livestock. This was also a rampant idea in the 2000s: about selectively breeding farm animals so that they get dumber and dumber, until they're easy to subjugate for meat, assembly-line style. I think they briefly touch on this again in season 12...with the Moloch monster and family business of meat packaging.

Anyway, SPN was trying to loop this idea in, too.

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So, yes. BIG erson's. Bigger Sons. Etc. Etc.

You want your kids to be better than you, with "bigger hearts" and more kindness. But bigger and stronger can have a heck of a downside, too.

But at its heart, the family diner also represents communion and community. It is, after all, the weak, vulnerable human family that Cas wants to protect in season 8.

It's both things at once.

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And Cas becomes the ideal/idea/motif of the always-working dad/husband that wants to provide for you but doesn't indulge in happiness or nourishment for himself.)

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Flagrant consumerism is a big part of Nephilim concept, too, and that's a very ancient story. Theirs was an extensive appetite that so drained the world they had to be eradicated to save the world. In a very real symbolic sense, We are the Nephilim. (On the nose maybe, but we are empire: too tall, too strong, too wasteful, war-mongering, dominating etc. etc.)

And my point is, I think humans have always been aware of the tension and war that comes with the competition for finite resources. It's not just a modern, "American" concept.

In early days, our conceptualization of gods and demi-gods mimics the food chain. Ergo: If gods are above us, they're like other stronger animals...they want to eat us. Thus, sacrificing to them is a way to appease them.

Humanity and religion are historically oriented towards pooling resources to survive. Many religions, even the big ones imho, are a clever family-extension device, that's why it they’re so littered with parental components. (It's used to bind people “under one roof” and funnel the resources appropriately.

Certainly, that how Cults and Causes start; in meaningful ways they're all baby/early religions. And when enough time goes by, and the leaders die, etc etc...they devolve to myth and respectable religions proper. The ultimate difference is time.

If angels are royal families, ancient knights-and-tribalism, then Leviathan were supreme capitalism.

It worked well in theory, even when the execution was sometimes lacking to too campy to get the satire across. Especially coming from, you know, Hollywood. And Biggerson's is a warped shadow of that appetite symbol.

#asks #leviathan #symbol #the family diner #cw weight #fat shaming #tw weight #supersize me mention #nephilim #appetite #resource management #cool topics done badly etc etc #moral relativism #human centered locus of morality #family centered locus of morality #insiders and outsiders

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mesillusionssousecstasy · 2 years

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HOTD 1x08: The Family Diner

Fire and Blood, p. 387

- “Though much weakened by his ordeal, King Viserys soon resumed the rule. To celebrate his recovery, a feast was held on the first day of 127AC. The princess and the queen were both commanded to attend, with all their children. In a show of amity, each woman wore the other’s color and many declaration of love were made, to the king’s great pleasure. Prince Daemon raised a cup to Ser Otto Hightower and thanked him for his leal service as Hand. Ser Otton in turn spoke of the prince’s courage, whilst Alicent’s children and Rhaenyra’s greeted one another with kisses and broke bread together at table. Or so the court chronicles record. Yet late in the evening, after King Viserys had departed (for His Grace still tired easily), Mushroom tells us that Aemond One-Eye rose to toast his Velaryon nephews, speaking in mock admiration of their brown hair, brown eyes... and strength. “I have never known anyone so strong as my sweet nephew,” he ended. “So let us drain our cups to these three strong boys.” Still later, the fool reports, Aegon the Elder took offense when Jacaerys asked his wife, Helaena, for a dance. Angry words were exchanged, and the two princes might have come to blows if not for the intervention of the Kingsguard. Whether King Viserys was ever informed of these incidents we do not know, but Princess Rhaenyra and her sons returned to their own seat on Dragonstone the next morning.”

#hotd #hotd 1x08 #house of the dragon #fire and blood #the family diner #house targaryen #hotd thoughts #hotd spoiler #hotd theories

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yokiteryokiter · 4 months

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Perhaps someone keeps this photo in their pocket to remember the good old times...

(Redrew the famous VHS Afton pic with my version of him, original under the cut...)

#fnaf #five nights at freddy's #william afton #spring bonnie #springtrap #fredbears family diner #the 'someone' may or may not be henry...

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chloesimaginationthings · 5 months

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FNAF: Trauma of the Afton children

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almondrootwc · 7 months

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SpringBonnie and SpringTrap Sketches w/ Color!

#SUPERfuntodraw #fnaf #fnaf design #fnaf art #fnaf 3 #springtrap #springbonnie #william afton #fivenightsatfreddysfanart #five nights at freddy's #fredbear family diner #my art

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zynthstar · 3 months

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FREDBEAR & RONNIE RABBIT! (1978)

(Cartoon designs for my FNAF AU)

#fnaf fanart #fnaf au #fredbear #spring bonnie #fredbear fanart #spring bonnie fanart #henry emily #William Afton #fredbear’s family diner #my art #digital art #procreate #artists on tumblr #fivenightsatfreddysau #fivenightsatfreddysfanart #fnaf #fnaf fandom

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zombinx · 23 days

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tomorrow is another day.

#artists on tumblr #digital art #fnaf fanart #fnaf #five nights at freddy's #fnaf 4 bullies #michael afton #crying child #fredbears family diner #the bite of 83 #bite of 83

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bzjohndory · 2 months

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I think abt them so much its unbearable

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#trolls band together #brozone diner #john dory #trolls john dory #i love john dory a normal amount #trolls 3 #haha john dory is my favorite #trolls #trolls floyd #trolls bruce #trolls clay #trolls branch #brozone #THE FAMILY EVER

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oldshowbiz · 1 month

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what every restaurant used to look like

#vintage #diner #diners #family restaurant

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doks-aux · 8 months

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The Fredbear animatronic was going through its programmed routine when it bit down on Crying Child's head. Who's to say it stopped there? Did it keep moving? Did it turn its head side-to-side, shaking CC's limp body like a rabbit in a hound's jaws? Did it finally open its mouth again and drop his body at his brother's feet? Did William see all of this while shoving his way in slow motion through a panicking crowd?

#i like to think so!#Five Nights at Freddy's #Fredbear's Family Diner #The Bite of '83 #Fredbear #Crying Child #Evan Afton #Garrett Afton #or whatever is name is #Michael Afton #Mike Schmidt #William Afton #doc's headcanons #fnaf meta #relevant to #Rabbit Hearted AU #child death #implied gore #animatronics

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gabsyp · 6 months

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springbonnie brainrot moment

last image is an ooc joke thing i made for a frend, alsk forgot to share the first image here woops

#fnaf #five nights at freddy's #fnaf movie #springbonnie #spring bonnie #fnaf springbonnie #8bit springbonnie #idk how to tag this guy 💀#i'll just call the lil critter 8bitspringbon!!!#digital art #fredbear #fredbear fnaf #fredbear family diner

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balloonboyismyson · 7 months

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Expectations.

#Glamrock Freddy #Security Breach #Five Nights at Freddy's #Fredbear's Family Diner #Fredbear #Spring Bonnie #FNaF #Five Nights at Freddy's Security Breach #FNaF SB #MyArt

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caycanteven · 7 months

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Don Balsam ref I? I think?

Cant believe the mafia version got a “ref” before his actual one LOL.

Balsam has a powerful hand in the medical field in his part of the city and some parts outside it depending on alliances. If an unfamiliar subordinate ends up in one of "his" facilities, it's not uncommon to hear from a another boss or even a Don looking for "cures" for their family who got in a pretty bad tussle. Don Bal doesn't really show himself in public unless it's to visit his favorite diner—or his favorite waitress, and meet for business. People who know his practices well nicknamed him "The Doctor.”