Slash Playing with The Strokes
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Ryan Ross has said, in a podcast appearance with friends in 2019, that he doesn't regret leaving PATD. Which is good. It's a terrible thing to live with regret.
A question I'd be more interested in, is whether he regrets that Panic got so big so quickly? Does he ever wish they'd had more time to mature, musically and individually, and to develop their sound and fan base over time? It may not have been likely from a clashing personalities point of view but I'm most interested in how he views the situation as a musician, whether he ever wishes they'd had more opportunities to focus on the music, which is hard to do when you're 19/20 years old and suddenly facing a crazy situation like Panic were thrown in when AFYCSO blew up.
I'd kind of compare Panic's situation to that of The Strokes with Is This It and the media frenzy that created, except The Strokes:
Were just a couple of years older - which makes a huge difference at that age;
Broke big just before the early days of social media and didn't have the teenage fan base with all the intense scrutiny, bandom and shipping;
Refused to do anything "commercial" (you wouldn't see them on a tour sponsored by a car manufacturer) so The Strokes kind of handicapped themselves with sales and promotion right there.
Also as opposed to Ryan, Julian Casablancas is the primary songwriter and lead singer, which gave him a control over his band that Ryan didn't have.
Just thinking out loud, but if Ryan gives any interviews in the future I'd like someone to ask him how he feels about this as a musician, rather than asking him about a quip he made about spray cheese 20 years ago.
About shippers, though.
The Strokes provided so, so much source material for shippers. What Brendon and Ryan hinted at in their stage act...
The Strokes spelled outall the damn time.
Then there was whatever Julian had going on with Jack White.
A direct quote from Jack White: "Julian stayed at my house and slept in my childhood bedroom, even wore my pajamas. He came into my room in the middle of the night thinking it was the bathroom and we laughed." (From Meet Me In The Bathroom)
Oh bandom shippers, why are you searching for crumbs from Petekey when there is this much juicy meat to gnaw on?
I'm not implying that the Strokes had greater artistic integrity than Panic for rejecting commercial opportunities. For most bands, the dream is just to be able to support yourselves financially by making music, and even if you achieve that it can end at any moment. If you're offered commercial opportunities, you pretty much have to take them; this could be the one shot you have to establish some financial security beyond the grind of life as a touring musician. That wasn't an issue for the Strokes - (in)famously, most of them came from wealthy backgrounds. They could afford to say no to commercial opportunities - even if that didn't make sense to people in their inner circle. To quote Amanda de Cadenet, wife of Strokes guitarist Nick Valensi: "They're the band that turned down a million dollars for some Heineken ad. That's dumb. Ryan [Gentiles, the Strokes long time manager] has taken a lot of flak for not being able to do things that we all think they should have done, but nobody can get these fuckers to do anything they don't want to do." (Again from Meet Me In The Bathroom).
The main point of this post is wondering if Ryan Ross, as a musician, ever wishes Panic had had a slower burn, more of a chance to find their feet as people and a band before the onslaught of fame. But in research for this post I found photos I just had to share, and here we are.
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the homoeroticism of being in a band
brooklyn baby, lana del rey / untitled (you construct intricate rituals), barbara kruger / fabrizio moretti and julian casablancas of the strokes / julian casablancas and albert hammond jr. of the strokes / mr schwartz, arctic monkeys / boygenius: the film, directed by kristen stewart / catapult, arctic monkeys / alex turner and miles kane of the last shadow puppets for everything you've come to expect / driving, not washing, richard siken / the hours and times, directed by christopher munch / sue zhao / the dream synopsis, the last shadow puppets / the last shadow puppets live at the catalyst, 2016 / august, taylor swift / the predatory wasp of the palisades is out to get us!, sufjan stevens / the strokes at the troubadour, 2001 / velvet goldmine, directed by todd haynes / because dreaming costs money my dear, mitski / boygenius for rolling stone magazine / the last shadow puppets live at alexandra palace, london, 2016 / untitled / the dogs i have kissed, trista mateer / strangers, ethel cain / untitled (cont.)
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'Someday' Music Video
The Strokes
Featuring Slash, Duff McKagan, and Matt Sorum
Thank you @jakelinestradlin for reminding me of this. ☺️
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