#trial marriage

[handeaux]

Cincinnati Gasped At The Idea Of ‘Trial Marriages,’ But Practiced Them Anyway

Judge Stanley Struble was fed up. As he looked over his docket in 1929, the judge grew suspicious that the Hamilton County Courts were being forced into abetting the immoral practice known as the “trial marriage.” It was increasingly common, Struble noticed, for Ohio teenagers to elope to Northern Kentucky, where marriage laws were much looser, and then, when the match proved unsatisfactory, to ask Ohio courts to annul the union on the basis of their immaturity. Judge Struble told the Cincinnati Post [30 November 1929]:

“These marriages seem to be becoming a habit among youthful couples, and clerks who issue licenses in such cases seem to be interested only in obtaining the fees, the same as would appear the case of those who perform these marriage ceremonies.”

Judge Struble held two annulment appeals aside until further investigation revealed the motivation behind those cases. The couples placed under the microscope were Leola Stouder McCloskey, who testified that she was only 16 when she married 19-year-old William McCloskey in Covington in 1926 and Elizabeth Bruenen Edwards, married at age 16 to Robert Edwards in Newport, also in 1926. In neither case did any testimony reveal why each couple had waited three years before seeking annulment.

Judge Struble was reacting to a controversial topic that had stirred debate in Cincinnati since at least 1906 – the idea that temporary marriages, giving couples a no-fault option to leave the marriage after a brief trial period, were the solution to the social problems of divorce. The idea was most popularly promoted by pioneering anthropologist Elsie Clews Parsons in her 1906 book, “The Family.” Almost from the day it was published, Doctor Parsons’ book was widely (if surreptitiously) read and just as widely condemned. The Post [23 November 1906] was editorially outraged, claiming that it was already too easy to terminate a marriage:

“The reform is needed in the other direction. We need to get rid of the feeling that marriage is a mere experiment.”

In condemning the concept of trial marriage, The Post had lots of company. Doctor Sarah Siewers, one of Cincinnati’s foremost suffragists, told the Post [20 November 1906]:

“Abominable! Who ever heard of a woman making such a fool of herself? Why, the plan Mrs. Parsons proposes means the end of society and the home and a reversal to the dark ages. The whole thing is disgusting to me. The only solution to the divorce problem is for men to behave themselves better and for women to insist on being treated as equals, not as inferiors or slaves.”

Mrs. Jessie Oliphant, described as a “Norwood club woman,” declined to comment:

“It is a very serious problem that Mrs. Parsons has started out to solve. The subject is very distasteful to me and I would rather not discuss it.”

Judge John A Caldwell was four-square against the idea:

“Trial marriage could be no marriage at all, and would ultimately destroy the marriage relation altogether. Such a system would destroy the home, the greatest of all our institutions, and would illegitimatize thousands of children”

The more opinions the Post published in opposition to trial marriage, the more letters it received in support of the concept. Furniture dealer Maurice C. Williams wrote [26 November 1906]:

“The views of Mrs. Parsons, as expressed in the book, ‘The Family,’ are as the faint rays of a dawning day which become gradually more resplendent until the shimmering light gives way to the sun in all its glory, casting its benignant influence over all. So it will be with man. The ideas advanced are along the lines of altruism.”

In the same issue, cabinet maker Fred Walthard (Yes, most of the supporters of trial marriage were men.) wrote:

“The majority of marriage ceremonies still take place in churches or similar places, where a priest is the ‘matador.’ But you don’t find one couple out of a thousand that are advanced enough to seek the judgement of a reliable physician concerning their match. I am afraid the divorce problem will never be solved so long as law and religion have everything to say about marriage and science nothing.”

An unnamed judge of the Hamilton County courts dabbled in statistics and informed the Cincinnati Post [28 October 1909] that all marriages were trial marriages anyway, and that he had the data to prove it. Looking over his cases for the past month, the judge found 140 divorce suits. Of these, 107 requests for divorce were filed by couples married less than 10 years:

“’Proving,’ said a Judge of the Hamilton-co. courts, ‘that marriage is naturally a 10-year-trial proposition. The figures indicate to me that couples who manage to live together for 10 years will in most cases stay married the rest of their lives, and the couples unsuited for each other usually find it out before 10 years are over.”

The anonymous judge scoffed at the idea of a trial marriage, since his experience showed that all marriages had a natural trial period built in. A closer look at his numbers revealed that 73 divorces – more than half of the month’s total – involved marriages that had not yet marked a five-year anniversary.

Spotting a saucy topic, the entertainment industry jumped on the trial marriage bandwagon. Cincinnati audiences enjoyed a play and a couple of silent films based on the trial marriage concept.

As late as the rock ‘n’ roll era, the Post’s medical advice columnist, Dr. George W. Crane, warned young women to avoid over-sexed men who proposed this immoral arrangement [16 September 1958]:

“Trial marriage usually is suggested by a person who may feel sexual infatuation but no true love. And there is a whale of a difference! Trial marriage definitely does NOT benefit the girl. She makes the sacrifices and is likely to be left pregnant and unable to earn a living for herself.”

#trial marriage #marriage contract #cincinnati morality

[deadrayg2mf]

I Married a Beast (Prime Mating Agency #7) by Regine Abel

I have to say, for a series with a cover style similar to others that I would normally bash on... they are not the worst "real life men turned into alien" covers. They are actually probably the best because some work that was not just beginner photoshop skills was put into them. Anyways, here is my part two of my back-to-back Regine Abel reviews!

This book immediately captured me with the female lead proclaiming two paragraphs in that she was a proud monster fucker. Preach, sister. Belle is an artist with a penchant for the otherworldly, both as her muse and romance interest, which is how she finds herself preparing for an interview with the founder of the Prime Mating Agency. Her goal is to get a beastly husband who's rough on the outside but sweet to her with plenty of strange features to boot. After some time spent discovering she is not there for the all-out strangeness the worlds have to offer her, her matchmaker settles on who he deems to be the perfect male for her (and he is always right... I mean 7 out of 7 books so far, who would dare to question Kayog).

Bayron is a familiar face if you've read the previous books, he comes to us from a previous interaction from book 2 I Married a Naga. He's got four eyes, four arms, and a beastly personality that he lays to the wayside for his beauty. (That's right, it's Beauty and the Beast references galore). He's also got double the package to please her with. That's right, folks, more DP. ~(˘▾˘~) (double penetration)

This is another great low angst 302-page addition to the series. As always, the primary plot is focused on their love story, getting Belle introduced to his society and way of life while also seeing Bayron willing to make concessions when it comes to some human aspects he isn't used to. They are a fun couple to watch fall in love with each other, they have a healthy relationship with open communication mostly and a never-ending appetite for each other. It even brings back some issues from in the second book that get resolved in a way that adds to the book ten-fold.

I love seeing past couples we've met through the series brought back as well, it makes for some great unity between the books. This can also be found between I Married a Birdman and I Married a Minotaur. Please, please, please check out this series! It's hit after hit and I promise you won't be wasting your time! 9.5/10 (-.5 for all the times Belle made me cringe with some monster fucker comment)

Would I read again? Yeah!

Would I recommend? I am literally begging at this point... I will get on my knees!（ －||－）

#good read #book review #monster fucker #monster fudger #monster lover #smut books #9.5/10 #regine abel #prime mating agency #alien romance #alien boyfriend #alien husband #trial marriage #i married a beast #dp action #grumpy man #but he is actually a softy #alien fucker

[poorly-drawn-mdzs]

I have never seen this man in my life.

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#poorly drawn mdzs #mdzs #jin guangyao #jin guangshan #xue yang #nie mingjue #Surprise guest appearance from Xue Yang! It feels so nostalgic to draw him. #I love how chipper he is here. Genuinely being such a bro to JGY and celebrating his achievement. #After all his trials and tribulations - Our Little Yao Yao has acquired the recognition he wanted. #I sure hope no further twists happen with his political career and/or marriage! #NMJ *does* strike me as a 'babe' guy. I don't know what it is about him. #He has one term of endearment. Unlike LXC who has a terrifying arsenal. You'll never hear the same one twice. #Xue yang's terms of endearment are 'murdering that guy for you'. And slapping your ass affectionately and platonically. #God damn it I miss Xue Yang. This wasn't supposed to happen

[corallapis]

ya there's def something that feels like a legal official next of kin situation abt missy receiving twelve's confession dial AND seven taking the master's remains back to gallifrey

#idk if it's strictly marriage how we think of it tho. #also. crazy that the daleks a) put the master on trial b) granted that. #doctor x master #dw

[venolfy]

One day I saw recolor for Miles Edgeworth clothes on his wiki photo on Pinterest and long time ago I was like: Why not to make this?

So here I am, but I couldn't decided which color for their wedding clothes will be, so I create more than one ^_^

#ace attorney #phoenix wright ace attorney #Phoenix Wright #miles edgeworth #ace attorney trilogy #ace attorney trials and tribulations #ace attorney fanart #fanart #ace attorney phoenix wright #ace attorney miles edgeworth #phoenix x miles #phoenix x edgeworth #miles edgeworth x phoenix wright #marriage #gay husbands #wrightworth #narumitsu #my art #capcom

[yonemurishiroku]

Hadkanon, - Demigods get married. Yes, when they are still teenagers, but they don't have long to live anyway.

If they find someone and fall in love passionately and for a long time, thanks aphrodite, this happens quite often, they make an ordinary proposal with a ring and go to a big house to ask blessing of Chiron and, if they are lucky, of Dionysus.

After receiving the blessing, they choose a place they like in the vicinity of the camp and invite their friends and family, arranging a modest ceremony.

the ceremony itself is quite simple - some chosen friend of theirs acts as a priest and, asking for Hera's blessing, concludes their marriage, and the bride and groom themselves share one pomegranate and give each other wine from their cups.

in the end, the couple in love is enveloped in a soft glow. Hera concluded their marriage and now they are husband and wife.

this sounds so sweet and also the concept of demigod teen marriage reflects perfectly why Luke decided to usurp the gods. never bother to keep their children alive long enough to have a life but give them blessing of a shortened, hastened house-playing? luke has all the reasons to bring them down.

#sorry anon i got sidetracked #the thought just strucked me #luke castellan #tw teen marriage #yone rambling #pjo #hoo #toa #percy jackson and the olympians #heroes of olympus #trials of apollo

[penaltyboxboxbox]

i love your parents au so much I think about it all the time!! thank you for putting it out there ❤

i love the parents au too i literally think about it all the time...im always theorizing..........im so glad others enjoy it especially since it started out as something so self indulgent that i didnt know if ppl would be into dkwhkdnskd

#i have so many plotlines within this au its insane actually...... #my child ocs with their entire lives ive planned out #and my yaoi marriages and their trials and tribulations.. #ask #parents au

[asurrogateblog]

I love how everyone in pink floyd explicitly refers to the band breakup as a divorce they're really doing all of the work for us

#not rick saying it was 'like being in a marriage under permanent trial separation' #pink floyd

[meirimerens]

got the tldr of the vid that I'm Not Watching All That & somewhat amusing how the straw breaking the camel's back for people over James Somerton is his blatant and unashamed plagiarism (as it should be genuinely i don't think you can nor should recover from this) like he hasn't regurgitated for years vile, unempathetic, ahistorical and Purely Just Wrong information about gay history including about the fight for legal same-sex marriage in the US and the AIDS crisis. like an alarming amount of people truly heard his ass say "all the good fun funky artistic and radical gays died of aids and all those who were left were unfun stuck-up prudes and conservatives also the fight for legal same-sex marriage was an assimilationist ploy by the latter who just wanted big gay weddings" as if the gay men who survived the epidemic didn't literally lose lovers and friends and entire communities and long-term partners who they shared a life with and who were denied any crumb of this previous life at their death because there was no legal recognition for same-sex cohabitation and unions and their homophobic family could tear everything from the surviving partner thanks to this lack of recognition and let it slide.

some people out there were truly so eager to shit on the boring assimilationist prude gays who survived aids by being stuck-up prudes and who just wanted "big gay weddings" they made up in their minds to get mad at that they turned their brains off and let it slide. they could've used their smoothed-out brains for ONE minute & found out that surviving took 1) plain boring luck and 2) radical, loud, proud gay activists campaigning for safe/safer sex and the information campaigns they led, as well as the protests and demonstrations they undertook to make the government fucking care for once. and that legally-recognized unions [be they civil or religious] were a matter of survival for the partner left behind. some people out there truly let a business major with a turtleneck (possibly the definition of boring) passing himself off as cool and radical and an intellectual tell them homophobic bullshit. and did not blink. like OF COURSE this guy's gonna be a plagiarist. he needs to get his information from SOMEWHERE. because when he tries to formulate his own stuff it's complete fabrications or the frankensteining of multiple sources that he manages to misunderstand/misrepresent threefold over. trying to fit a knit sock over the foot with the inside out and wonder why that itches.

i know many people in his audience are likely very young and also likely american and as such did most of their growing up in a world where their country (1 out of 195. give or take.) had legalized gay marriage but i cannot even begin to describe 1) how Young legalized gay wedding is, even in ""the west"" and 2) how many. other countries there are. my country legalized same-sex marriage before the US did. i am not even 25 and i still remember the hordes of catholics marching down the streets chanting homophobic slogans, implying the only reason two mommies or two daddies would want to raise a child together is for nefarious, vile purposes. i still remember families having to drag their asses into court to argue that, yes, a woman who raised a child for its whole life with another woman she's in a long-term committed cohabitated relationship with should have the right to be considered a direct guardian even if she's not biologically related to the child, and spending thousands of bucks having to argue their case in court. this might be shocking to some, but there are countries where homosexuality is punishable by death. in others, not by death, but by imprisonment. in others, not by imprisonment, but by ""medical intervention"". in others, not by ""medical intervention" but by fines. and in some others still, you can be gay (yay!) but you still cannot get married or civil-unioned, and the very same shit that was discussed in the 80s is still discussed now. the right to stay a guardian of your partner's child if your partner dies or is ill, so the kid does not go into foster care. the right to inherit your partner's property according to married rights instead of having through long annoying time- and money-consuming legal processes. the right to arrange your partner's funeral or have a say in their medical choices if they're incapacitated instead of their (potentially homophobic) families.

like We Are Not There Yet. we are not in a world where any homosexual can truly, fully, wholeheartedly assimilate, whether you consider it a good thing or not. fun gay artists and boring uninteresting gay office workers die the same death that we all do. the one you don't wake from. and guess what. all types of homosexuals, regardless of which ones you pick and choose to be mad at, are affected by homophobic legislation. not just the ones you think should be spared because they're oh so fun. and oh so radical.

donate to the rainbow railroad org if you can. they help LGBT+ people escape state-sponsored violence. a singular nail on one of their members' hand does more activism and real-life good than any mfer making video essays could do in his entire life.

#also were the two gay male writers who died of AIDS who's shit you stole of the ''fun artistic gays'' or the boring ones? you seem to like #their stuff enough to steal. you want their talent their eloquence and their presence; which is missed; sooo bad you look stupit! #also gay people have always gotten married. privately; clandestinely; in secret; in shame often. #gay people have had commitment ceremonies for as long as we've had partners. #like even if some of us did want ''big gay weddings''. by all means cope and seethe that no one wants your hand in marriage #and to dedicate their lives to you as you do to them publicly; to the world's face. but that's a skill issue. #not making this shit rebloggable i'm just complaining about the guy. have disliked him for a while for this ^ & also his fabrication of #how Radclyffe Hall's trial actually went. like you can literally wikipedia this shit. #unrelated me and my dad have this joke where when i feel like my academic life is not too great/i maybe should have done something else #i go ''well i might have gone to the Unemployment Factory; but at least i'm not a Business Student [shocked face] [retching face]'' #and my dad hysterically laughs. all of the worst people he's ever met had been business students once. #anyways. allmother mother of all great priestess of dishing out Ls to the deserving #thank you for having taken this man down in such a glorious colossal blaze. CHEH! #neigh (blabbers)

[shiikiyun]

I find the woobification of milgram characters and the oversimplification of their crimes to pull a "but theyre all murderers" equally annoying and i think yall would benefit of critical thinking

#youre not supposed to play so hard into the black and white belief #in an attempt to make fun of the one thatll call their milgram fave their meow meow #you sound just as stupid #the whole point the entire time is that while yes they KILLED #milgram's definition of murder is abritrary #an abortion to twitter beef to a marriage of lies #even the direct murders are most assumed to not be premeditated and a consequence of environment #kotoko WENT ON TRIAL IN REAL LIFE and was ruled out as self defence #putting these characters so harshly on the murderer label is purposely misunderstanding the task at hand #yall are letting jackalope play you and you sound dumb is what im getting at

[wonder-worker]

I've been thinking about the tragedy of Elizabeth Woodville living to see the death of her family name.

I don't mean her family with her husband, which lived on through her daughter and grandson. I mean her own.

Her sisters died, one by one, many of them after 1485. When Elizabeth died, only Katherine was left, and she would die before the turn of the century as well.

All her brothers died, too. Lewis died in childhood. John was executed. Anthony was murdered. Lionel died suddenly in the peak of Richard's reign, unable to see his niece become queen. Edward perished at war. Richard died in grieving peace. For all the violence and judgement the family endured, it was "an accident of biology" that ended their line: none of the brothers left heirs, and the Woodville name was extinguished. We know the family was aware of this. We know they mourned it, too:

“Buy a bell to be a tenor at Grafton to the bells now there, for a remembrance of the last of my blood.”

Elizabeth lived through the deposition and death of her young sons, and lived to see the end of her own family name. It must have been such a haunting loss, on both sides.

#(the quote is by Richard Woodville in his deathbed will; he was the last of the Woodville brothers to die) #elizabeth woodville #woodvilles #my post #to be clear I am not arguing that the death of an English gentry family name is some kind of giant tragedy (it absolutely the fuck is not) #I'm trying to put it into perspective with regards to what Elizabeth may have felt because we know her family DID feel this way #writing this kinda reminded me of how I am just not fond at all about the way Elizabeth's experiences in 1483-85 are written about #and the way lots so many of the unprecedentedly horrifying aspects are overlooked or treated so casually: #the seizure and murder of two MINOR sons and the illegal execution of another; #her sheer vulnerability in every way compared to all her queenly predecessors; how she was harassed by 'dire threats' for months; #how she had 5 very young daughters with her to look after at the time (Bridget and Katherine were literally 3 and 4 years old); #how unprecedented Richard's treatment of her was: EW was the first queen of england to be officially declared an adulteress; #and the first and ONLY queen to be officially accused of witchcraft #(Joan of Navarre was accused of her treason; she was never explicitly accused of witchcraft on an official level like EW was) #the first crowned queen of england to have her marriage annulled; and the first queen to have her children officially bastardized #what former queens endured through rumors* were turned into horrifying realities for her. #(I'm not trying to downplay the nightmare of that but this was fundamentally on a different level altogether) #nor did Elizabeth get a trial or appeal to the church. like I cannot emphasize this enough: this was not normal for queens #and not normal for depositions. ultimately what Richard did *was* unprecedented #and of course let's not forget that Elizabeth had literally just been unexpectedly widowed like 20 days before everything happened #I really don't feel like any of this is emphasized as much as it should be? #apart from the horrifying death of her sons - but most modern books never call it murder they just write that they 'disappeared' #and emphasize that ACTUALLY we don't know what happened to them (this includes Arlene Okerlund) #rather than allowing her to have that grief (at the very least) #more time is spent dealing with accusations that she was a heartless bitch or inconsistent intriguer for making a deal with Richard instead #it also feels like a waste because there's a lot that can be analyzed about queenship and R3's usurpation if this is ever explored properly #anyway - it's kinda sad that even after Henry won and her daughter became queen EW didn't really get a break #her family kept dying one by one and the Woodville name was extinguished. and she lived to see it #it's kinda heartbreaking - it was such a dramatic rise and such a slow haunting fall #makes for a great story tho

[rarepears]

I think tumblr ate my last ask but if not sorry for sending you this again.

The Sung Jinwoo x Shen Jiu prompt I was thinking of was the one where Shen Jiu mistakenly thinks he's in another arranged marriage. This time with Sung Jinwoo after Igris saved him from Qiu Jianluo. It was no. 19 from your solo leveling x svsss ideas awhile back. Although I wouldn't say no to any other Sung Jinwoo x Shen Jiu ideas you might have. ( ‾́ ◡ ‾́ )

*Sighs* Sometimes the Tumblr deity requires sacrifices from its loyal piteous followers, and I suppose your ask was one of the unwilling sacrificed beings.

-

Sung Jinwoo can appear any age that he wants, righto? And say that there's already established married husbands Sung Jinwoo X Shen Jiu but no one in the cultivation world knows.

This is in part because Sung Jinwoo keeps himself outside of the cultivation world, too busy being a small lord (cough king) of a small territory in the mortal sphere. Sung Jinwoo is also a homebody and doesn't care to travel or explore the world.

He's used to his cultivator husband disappearing for months at a time due to this or that cultivator political mess and duties, which just reaffirms his desire to stay Out Of the Cultivation World. It just looks like far too much work for no gain (for him that is).

So Jinwoo fails to realize when Shen Jiu is thrown into the Water Prison. Shen Jiu is also too prideful to call upon his husband's shadow summons in his shadow and the shadow summons don't see Shen Jiu in immediate peril. (The shadow summons think Shen Jiu has some grand plan to escape or something crazy like that. All the shadow summons think Shen Jiu can do Anything Since He Can Make Sung Jinwoo Obey Him Like That.)

The first day of Shen Jiu's unjust trial held at Huan Hua Palace arrives. And one of the charges laid against him is his lecherous habits, preying upon not just his disciples but underaged mortals... And then the Old Palace Master pulls out a memory orb that shows Shen Jiu walking alongside his husband, Sung Jinwoo, who decided to don the appearance of a young 12 year old for whatever reason that day.

Well.

The shadow summons were not pleased by the cultivation world's insinuation of their liege and lady's marriage like that.

The cultivation world was also not pleased by the sudden appearance of all these shadow monsters who clearly obeyed Shen Qingqiu's commands! This was just further proof of Shen Qingqiu's cooperation with the sowers! But they were no match for the hundreds of shadow summons who reassembled themselves upon being killed. Nor for how the shadow summons were like little children and called upon their liege, crying about how unfairly treated his lady Shen Jiu was being treated.

The cultivation world learned to fear a new immortal deity that day.

#svsss ideas #svsss #shen qingqiu #shen jiu #scumbag self saving system #svsss au #solo leveling #solo leveling au #solo leveling ideas #solo leveling jin woo #sung jinwoo #sung jinwoo x shen jiu #sung jinwoo and shen jiu's marriage gets revealed to cultivation world during trial au #prompt fill

[capsizedskeleton]

tiff and sam ultimate besties fr even in the reunion. i would kill for a reality tv show where people are incentivized to make friends and romantic relationships bc actually interesting and maybe healthy things would happen

#the ultimatum #the ultimatum queer love #like ok they may not be able to live together they were obviously really awkward as a trial marriage #and like. incompatibility with the dog and all #but the friendship and support!

[astrarche-x]

back to obsessing over Richard

at first he doesn't seem to have any obvious fatal flaws - no hubris, no hunger for power etc

but his fatal flaw is this little voice in his head that whispers sometimes ''maybe violence IS the answer tho"

it's not like he believes that it's a good solution; but sometimes it's the more reliable solution. more efficient solution. faster solution.

and oh how he wants to speedrun his way back to being respectable citizen

(which is, of course, very ironic given the methods. but deep down he believes that he's so good at killing he can afford being immoral. he tries to get rid of this belief but to no avail.)

#like. sometimes he wants to do a good thing but the more violent way to get that is the way he prefers despite everything #like getting Tommy out in s3 finale. he could have broken into the house and try to do it stealthily #but no. he went in and started blasting guns in a very ''either i succeed or i'll die trying'' kinda way #then with proving Gilian guilty #he could have just waited for the final trial in the custody case #Julia's arguments were strong after their marriage and with Gilian accused of murder they were practically winners #but Richard had to make sure. and he thought he could only achieve that by using his killing skills #ugh. the complexity of this character #esp his character arc #the writers were like ''oh see how broken he is'' #''just kidding! he started to heal; not so broken now! just a guy who wants to be loved!'' #''anyway look how deeply broken he is. more so that you realized'' #it's like a reverse matrioshka #where the surface-level angst covers the deeper abandoned dreams which in turn cover an ocean of angst of much much bigger scoop #* scope #anyway his fatal flaw is deep-seated belief of ''i'm so good at killing that i don't have to be moral'' which persists despite him trying #to fight it #boardwalk empire #richard harrow

[toa-character-tournament]

ROUND ONE BRACKET B

#MY FAV MATCHUP OF THIS WHOLE BRACKET WOOOOOOOOOO #GET HIM MEG #also ik the python photo is just a pic of the ton cover #the percy jackson and the gods version of python is frankly sad so like. yeah #so sorry ur in the pic apollo ✌️side effect of having to use this image #then again. now that i think about it every photo of python has apollo there as well #someone bring that line in ton which was like 'we kept being drawn to each other like marriage bonds' or smthg #meg mccaffrey #pjo python #trials of apollo #toa #apollogists #toa characters poll #round one #bracket b #BUT

[fictionadventurer]

I know it's not technically a fairy tale, but do you happen to have any recs for retellings of Tam Lin?

--Siena

Unfortunately, no, since I haven't read any. However, I've heard good things about The Perilous Gard, which I believe draws from that fairy tale.

#answered asks #fairy tales #fairy tale retellings #tam lin #thewatercolours #i thought i had an answer for this #and it turns out i was thinking about my never-finished twelve dancing princesses retelling #where the soldier character was captured by the fairy king #and the eldest princess character frees him by invoking the tam lin clause #where as a member of the royal house #(the fairy king is her godfather) #she has the right to offer pardon to another member of the royal family #and the right to make someone a member of the royal family by marriage #but because he's a prisoner she'd have to prove her devotion to him by enduring the trials #so they know it's not just him trying to take advantage of her #it doesn't make a ton of sense but most of the book didn't either which is part of the reason i never finished #but anyway she agrees to the trial not knowing what it is only knowing she can't release him #and then she's horrified by him 'getting turned into' a bunch of increasingly ferocious animals #though in this universe fairy magic can't actually transform people so the magic's actually being done on her #to give extremely detailed all-five-senses hallucinations that this is what's happening #while the guy is magically silenced to stop him from breaking the illusion #and then when everything's over her soldier has no idea what she just had to endure but just knows it was traumatic #and that he had to watch her suffer it without being able to comfort her #but she wins the trial gets his freedom and everyone lives happily ever after #if i actually did anything with this story i prob wouldn't include this part because it's pretty tangential #but it's relevant to this tam lin discussion #*the fairy king is her grandfather not godfather #i'm not going back to retype all that