I haven't been active in the byler fandom, why would redditors be mad at the play being canon?
Most, not all, but most active reddit users on the ST sub have been bombarded with byler evidence for the last year. So to remain sane through it all, they have resorted to insisting that almost every detail fans come across and try to share on the sub, are just mere coincidences.
This is because they've realized that if they are considering other really minor details meaning something bigger, that means they might have to start considering the possibility that the details pointing to byler are also intentional. This is how they cope.
You would think after saying 'it's just a coincidence' for the hundredth time, they might be starting to rethink their position on things, but the reality of the situation just isn't setting in I guess (aka they don't want it to happen so they are refusing to let themselves truly consider it until they have no choice).
The reason I still partake in the reddit sub, despite losing braincells over half the takes on there, is bc there are still a handful of users that are really smart and do great analysis on the supernatural side of the show, in particular things I have no knowledge on at all and would greatly benefit from looking at to expand my understanding of things and different perspectives.
The really smart ones that exist are usually indifferent to the romantic arcs in the show, although they do have a milkvan bias bc the straight bait is straight baiting. And so these are the few posts theorizing, that consider the details meaning something more, that just so happen to get support from the hardcore milkvans on there. And it's bc as long as it's coming from someone who doesn't think byler is going to happen, they will listen.
I will say the one thing that is sort of obnoxious about all of this is that regular fans without any ship bias, will pop on there semi-regularly with a post, accompanied by basic common sense questions like, 'wait this makes no sense...' or 'why did they do this this way?' in many cases, with the confusion surrounding the build up of Mike and El and Will's role in all that. These people aren't milkvans or bylers, they are just fans picking up on obvious subtext and they are looking for insight about it from fans. And every time they get bombarded with condescending and bitter milkvans that are having to defend mike and el's honor, and s4 really made this a full time job for them lmao. That sort of resentment has manifested into hating anything and everything that considers deeper meaning in relation to Will and Mike, but especially in Will's case. Because that's the thing, they have to deny any importance of Will's role bc Will being important fucking terrifies them. It means that everything could be important basically. It's their worst nightmare and they will hound you for even speculating something. It's insufferable to watch unfold honestly.
I say all of this bc it's important in the context of the play, given that there are a lot of theories out there swirly around, theories that mostly reside on Tumblr. Many of those theories are viewed by redditors as being crack theories that have no evidence supporting them (bc they come from bylers), like the weirdness around Alice not being in the play (and potentially connecting to Karen), or the fact that they insisted the silhouette of Henry's actor right before the cast announcement couldn't be him bc he was too old to be Henry (umm time shenanigans, duh), or that the truth about Brenner's involvement runs a lot deeper than everyone assumes.
And so naturally, leading up to the play, a lot of active (very vocal) redditors in both the main sub and the Hawkins AV Club sub, have commented on posts related to the play, trying so hard to convince others (themselves) that this play is not canon and we shouldn't waste our time with it because it wont matter in the context of everything going on in the literal show. They go as far as to insist it's not canon, even though it already was said to be canon.
And now with this post, they are again having to face the reality this show is a lot deeper than they have had to insist it to is combat byler speculation. All byler evidence is seen as reaching to them. And they'll do everything they can to insist anything bylers are speculating is delusional, which includes theories surrounding the play. All of that denial has led us to this moment, which will only hurt their ego as time goes on and they are being hit with sign after sign after sign... that it might just be that deep.
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enough of the grace granted to fence-sitting jews, to the jews that are too scared to stand up to their mommies and daddies about palestine, so they come online and tone police. i am humbled by the grace nonjews have shown these jews. as a jew that has never been a zionist, who has no zionist family, and who grew up around many other anti-zionist jews, you have been far kinder to these genocide-abetters than i ever could be. and so as a jew, i see your grace, and i personally respect you and your commitment to equal and social justice.
but you don't owe these cowards a fucking thing. when they come on and say "this is a dogwhistle but this is a legitimate palestinian charity" ignore them. they can get with the right side of history, or they can stay with their congregation. you aren't required to hear them out. you don't owe them a single thing.
these spineless cucks will decry nonjews tokenizing anti-zionist jews to say "antisemitic" things, and then those antisemitic things are literally... things that the iof is currently doing. on video. daily. so tokenize me all you'd like. i have lots of other antizionist jewish friends i grew up with- we're all white jews, tokenize them, too. until palestine is free, until those cowards remember who their fucking G-d is, don't waste your time on them. from the river to the sea.
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Hi, may I ask a question regarding rebloging. I really don't like posting content of any kind on any of my social medias as I hate attracting to myself(I'm still anxious about the few times I've left comments or requests). But after learning how important rebloging is on tumblr, I've been feeling guilty, I do follow and ❤ as I assume those keep me anonymouse, but not reblog. I don't want content creators to feel unappreciated, but I'm nervouse about having a viewable blog. I'd love your opinion.
hello! i completely understand social anxiety. i have really bad anxiety myself. even with other writers! i get writer to writer intimidation. i think some blogs are way too cool to interact with me and i have to hype myself up before i so much as like their post.
you know what i do?? what you're doing right now. if you read something you enjoy on someone's blog, just leave them an anonymous message saying you enjoyed it.
they get to know someone read what they wrote! you don't have to have any direct attention on you. the writer, knowing people are actually reading what they post, writes more!
writers want engagement.
when we do it for free, like in fandom, that's the only type of reward we experience.
if you enjoy high quality fic/imagines/drabbles/headcanons it really is a case of finding a comfortable way to engage with the people to make fandom fun, or watch fandom die out.
especially as capitalism pushes more and more of us to monetize our hobbies. here's the thought process that will eventually happen for a lot of writers: why bother writing on tumblr? no one even reads what i make. i never get any sort of engagement besides likes. i might as well go try and get paid for it, at least.
and that's how you lose the more experienced writers. and, in one tragic swoop, discourage new ones from taking their place. if that amazing writer didn't get any engagement i really won't because i'm just starting out!! the cycle is vicious.
fandom is dying out because we don't interact with one another the way we used to. anon asks used to be way more prevalent. you don't have to bring attention to yourself or make yourself uncomfortable to make a writer's day. even a couple of heart emojis and a "love how you write" might stop someone from quitting.
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I FORGOT TO SAY IN MY LAST ASK IM SORRY but I think your ocs are very cool 🤸♀️ I was scared to send that last one tho omgjskfnsnmd I haven't interected with anything on here at all yet but you were so nice???? I have now gained the courage to Start Doing Things, I thank you kindly 💃💃💃
AAAH YES YES I'M CHEERING FOR YOU
JUST
✨✨Start Doing Things ✨✨
whatever you start doing I hope you find joy in it!! 😤✨
It makes me happy to hear that i gave you that little push 😭
ALSO thank you so much I'm so glad you like my little sillies as well 😭💕😭💕
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well anyway i'll just try and retype what i HAD sent off-anon that you didn't get because i clearly Am shadowbanned, there's no such thing as harmless ai, like sorry, there's just not. it's all stupid dumbfuck breaking bad alaskan crab fishing posts now, but when the internet becomes essentially unusable by next year, if that, the people with mindsets like yours are going to be very sorry. the technology is advancing faster than anyone had initially thought it would and it's just gonna continue to get worse. that post looks just like the cast doesn't it? bet ai is gonna be real fun and harmless when the Really bad people take advantage of it. this is a US election year. use your brain. there's no such thing as harmless ai. the funny stupid shit you keep feeding it is going to make it so much easier to use for the really nefarious shit that's bascially a guarantee at this point. and btw no it wasn't just "one ai post" you have an entire "ai generated" tag so. shrugs
At first I was just going to ignore this, but actually and genuinely I want you to ask yourself: Was this productive? Did this cause any real change? I don't use AI apps and never have, I have reblogged two (2) AI generated images. I'm not even the OP.
You obviously need a better and more productive outlet, or less free time even. Might I suggest doing some activism or community work in the real world? Volunteers are always needed at food pantries, but personally I like the Humane Society.
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hey everyone :') I'm having trouble with my paypal account right now and I was wondering if anyone else has had this problem: currently, I can't log into my account because it wants to send a security code to an out of date phone number. and. the whole reason I wanted to log in was....to update my number.......because I no longer have access to the old one......
the customer service line is automated and I can't get a real person, and the chat function requires you to login (which I can't do!!!!), and I'm just. uhhhh. trying to find out if there's a solution to this before I like…..send a DM to their support twitter......because you can't send support emails anymore........
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