#> can manipulate what you look like

[intotheelliwoods]

I have one more thing I want to work on before I get back into updating 2AL regularly, but until then......

#I was going to do a poptart mindscape introduction comic next but like #idk how necessary that is??? #I am assuming by this point we all know how the mindscape works right? #> can share memories #> can manipulate what you look like #> and can manipulate surroundings/summon whatever you want at will #I am assuming we know these things????? yeah? #2 arms left #and like! ah #gosh that animation project is scary #the last 2 options are build up comics for it that I am *probably* going to have to make at some point anyways #another part of me entirely is debating scrapping the animation project and just doing that update in comic form instead of animated form #YKNOW LIKE A NORMAL PERSON #idk #rambling #I am at a really weird part of the storyline for 2al where I know what happens next #but its going to be hard to visualize it? if that makes sense? #what do you MEAN these story points cant just get #beamed out of my head and into everyone elses heads #anyways hello thanks for reading this far into the tags #augh ive been very busy! #to whatever wins this poll I may not get to it till the end of the month #or after since the rest of this month is going to be pretty stressful #this is also assuming the animation option doesnt win #I dont know how long thats going to take me...... #assuming I even have the guts to finish it

[plulp]

JORDAN PLEASE DONT WEAR SO MANY CLOTHES. PPLEQASE

#my art #dol #jordan the pious #PLEASE TAKE THEM OFF PPLEASE #MONK HABITS AARE SO ......... 😰 #i had to LOOK UP THE PIECES OF A MONKS HABIT and MANIPULATE IT to not look like. THAT. #had to look up what a cross looked like too. sorry god #anyways. i think jordan would look cute in a braid and also have a mole #because its cute too #ugh.......... finally able to get this out of my head though #been trying to work on it for the past few days but i just couldnt get it right #for some reason i thought jordan had green eyes? i was wrong though. #its still a little off for me but i genuinely think its because theyre wearing too much clothes #i need to draw jordan without the cowl sometime. i hate the cowl. take that thing off #well. such is the fate of a freak such as i #i might make a poll to ask who you all want me to draw next because ive basically drawn all my favorite characters #besides leighton i really love him <- sicko who does the GET BLACKMAILED thing just so i can cheat save and fuck him repeatedly #anyways hope you all like this one #EDIT: SORRY LOOKED AT IT AND NOTICED A CRITICAL ERROR #UP NOW.

[hammill-goes-fogwalking]

I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI. I HATE AI.

#not dislike. its hate #it made me cry several times today #thinking of how my classmates manipulate our teachers #and chatgpt AIs can EVERYTHING #its so painful to think of it #today I broke down in the bus and cried #idc what people think. hiding my feelings any longer would destroy me from the inside #maybe youve also seen how people use freakin AIs in their exams #the thing is that: #we wrote an exam for which Ive studies for like 2 whole days #this week we finally got the exams back (w the grades ofc) #and ok Ive got a 3 (C in America syste #*m) #my friends who used chatgpt throughout the exam got way better grades (I didnt expect it otherwise) #PLUS #the most provocating messages from the teacher: #“10/10 POINTS :)” “YOURE ROCKING THIS” “YEAH” #💔 #seriously #this breaks my heart #dont the teacher see something suspect in the exam?! #why cant they open their eyes and get modernized to reality. #& they KNOW- the students Im talking of. they usally have bad results. #once our teacher came to a chatgpt student and said the most miserable thing: #“youve been using duolingo a lot lately hm? thats where your nice grades come from 😉🥰” #you get it? #no- this peoson didnt learn. #no- this person isnt even interested in the stuff we learn in lessons #AWFUL feeling to hear the praisings of da teachers when *I* gotta sit among the gpt-students and look like Im a worse student than *them* #[writing this at almost 1 at night] still have some tears. this topic really has the power to destroy someones day. 💔💔

[stop-breaking-my-heart-telltale]

if dorian didn't show up, do you think louis would have shot minnie?

I do. I know some people think either he wouldn't have or he would've missed so that's why the writers had him shoot Dorian instead, but mmmmmm no, I don't personally think so. I like to think that if he had taken the shot, his shaky hands would've caused him to shoot her fatally.

Mostly because I'm already so normal about the fact that of the Ericson crew, Marlon and Louis are the only ones with a body count. Well, that we know of, but shown to us in the game, at least. Plus, we know it's Louis' first kill.

Like yeah, Clementine and AJ become part of the crew and they have bigger body counts, and if we're counting indirect kills caused by actions, then Tenn has a count... and I guess everyone has blood on their hands for blowing up the boat... but I'm talking about killed directly with a weapon like....... I lied, I'm not normal about that at all, Louis and Marlon are the ones who have killed someone in Louis' route. I'm also not normal about the fact that Louis kills Dorian and then even as he's clearly in shock, he tries to go with Clementine to get AJ, and then later on when they talk about it, he says it feels like bile but not quite and he's glad he has it in him to do it.... listen, listen, listen... I'm obsessed with that.

Anyway, so if Louis shot Minerva, I think he would've accidentally killed her and can you imagine? He's already enough of a mess after killing the woman who pinned him down and tried to cut his finger off [or succeeded] but he knew Minerva, they were friends before the twins were taken. Even Violet couldn't kill her even though that would've been the smarter thing to do, and we know thanks to meta knowledge that killing her would've saved lives, but Violet couldn't, and I don't think Louis would intentionally either.

Speaking of Violet, if Louis killed Minerva, I hate to think about what that would've done to Vi. I think she might've actually left at that point, like what was planned before it got changed to her being burned. I don't think she would've attacked Louis over it, though, like yeah she attacked Clementine in the cell but Louis? I don't know, but I don't think so just because it's Louis and he'd be a mess about it anyway.

Though if he did kill her, it would be a neat parallel to draw... y'know, because Louis forgave AJ for killing Marlon even though he was pissed and heartbroken, and Violet was annoyed with him the entire time... but could she ever forgive Louis for killing Minerva? Y'know? We already have a similar parallel with AJ shooting Tenn, but still.

If Clementine killed Minerva in that moment, though, then I could see Violet attacking her since in her eyes, Clem proved her right.

So yeah, I get why they added the Dorian kill to his route. It adds another compelling element to Louis as a character, but we also need Minerva alive for episode 4; Louis can't kill her, he can't miss, and he's not going to stay with her because we need Violet to stay on the boat and him to be on shore for all routes.

#asks #twdg louis #twdg minerva #twdg clementine #twdg violet #twdg marlon #twdg tenn #honestly whenever i see someone say louis is the boring option i'm just like '.......that's your opinion but also how can you say that??' #then again i'm sure other people look at me saying violentine just isn't for me and they say the same thing so y'know... i can't talk haha #also time is such a weird thing because i look at the entire cell scene in louis' route and like... i'm not even mad about violet anymore #like yeah i still don't believe she was brainwashed like i'm sorry y'all only believe that because kent said something about it #not because there's all this evidence toward it in game like vi being pissed at clementine makes sense she doesn't need to be brainwashed #for it to work like her being vulnerable and easily manipulated into submission makes perfect sense especially with minerva there #it's like everyone was pissed that she attacked clementine and people needed a way to excuse it so it's not violet's fault when like... #that's literally what makes it interesting like calm down it's okay if violet is pissed and scared and behaves accordingly #also my controversial opinion of the day that i'll hide here in the tags so maybe people won't find it sksksk but #I personally find the concept of vinerva and the doomed tragedy of it more compelling than anything violentine did #like i'll defend violentine and i do believe it's an important and good ship it's just not my personal favorite #anyway but then the whole thing with lilly and minerva is so good and louis screaming FUCK YOU at minerva?? amazing love it so good #i love when the soft character who never chooses violence is so pissed off that all that anger they have boils to the surface and it's raw #like... he's SO mad he's SO furious he's SOOO UPSET like he wasn't even like this when marlon died or anything like he hit his limit #and then shooting dorian through the mouth while an accident is just well done i love it and i love his reaction of mortification #and apologizing and YET he still tries to go with clementine he's trembling and can barely string together a sentence but he wants to go #he wants to help her he wants to save aj THAT is the gut reaction he has after everything that just went down #'louis isn't loyal or good for clem because of the vote' babe tell me you don't understand any nuance of louis' character without telling m #it's fine IT'S FINE you don't have to agree and i just have to remind myself that it's fine not everyone likes louis we're okay #this drives me crazy in the best way like y'know what? i love the cells scene in louis' route all of it even the stuff i used to rant about #even the stuff that used to piss me off now i'm just like 'no wait past cj was dumb she wasn't looking at it this way aaaaaaaa' sksksks #that was my tag ted talk about the cell scene thank you

[lesbiradshaw]

once again thinking about how so much of s6 liam and theo’s relationship is about theo choosing to do the dirty work so liam doesn’t have to. he went from trying to harness liam’s anger for his own gain to trying to help him get it under control— and even in triggers when he does intentionally piss liam off so they can fight to cause a distraction, he keeps liam from killing nolan right after. he tries to comfort liam (in his own Extremely Emotionally Stunted way) during the car ride home by pointing out how hard he tried to avoid hurting him. he does it again in the locker room, telling liam he’s making progress by not killing gabe— right before stepping forward and smashing gabe’s face right back into that mirror for himself to get the information they need. theo throws himself at the ghost riders as bait because he knows liam, despite his harsh promises, is too good of a person to do it himself. he pulls liam into the sheriff station bathroom and reality checks him about saving his friends and himself (also in the most Emotionally Stunted way possible) because he knows liam is sometimes blinded by his own idealism. he pushes liam ahead of him at the hospital and takes bullets meant for them both.

for someone who claims to relish in his own selfishness, theo time and time again shows that he’d rather get blood on his hands as long as it keeps liam from having to get it on himself.

#yes s6 theo is still mean. he can be cruel and manipulative but also he plays that up as a mask in situations where when you look at his #motives it becomes pretty clear he’s doing/saying shit because he really does care #about LIAM even ​if not about ‘the greater good’ #its rotten work! not to me! not if its you! #theo doing the rotten work so liam wont have to be corrupted the same way he was ooooooh let me write that down #obviously liam is still traumatized and haunted by a lot of what happens to him bc it’s inevitable #but when theo is with him … idk theo tends to take on the bloodier tasks. intentionally. #hes not trying to preserve liams innocence or whatever because frankly i think naïveté frustrates him #but he’s trying to preserve liams goodness. maybe it makes him feel like he can rekindle some of his own. #him trying to make liam see the world for what it is while also wanting him to avoid the worst parts of it so he doesnt end up like theo #oh i feel faint #anyways #enjoy another analysis no one asked for #thiam #carolcore

[thedroloisms]

What’s really frustrating is seeing people say “Tommy should’ve known”/“How did Tommy NOT know about his behavior” and it’s just not something you say? Ever? It’s like asking Shelby how she didn’t see the warning signs. When you’re deep in it— when you’re THAT close to someone— you’re going to not see the red flags that someone on the outside might be able to see. Tommy’s an immature guy and he fucked over Dream, yes. However he’s probably reeling over the realization his “big brother” abused someone.

god, for sure. ive also seen people talk about how "if you saw him manipulating you and your friends why didn't you SAY ANYTHING!!!" and it's just ... i'm sorry uh. do you guys not. understand. like there's a power dynamic? there's a power dynamic here people. that's ,,, part of how manipulation in this manner works. like, i know people are saying this because they don't like the person in question, and while i'm not exactly their biggest fan either, being a shitty person doesn't prevent you from being a victim, and vice versa. like, just because you might not like this person or think that they're a shitty person bc of various reasons doesn't make victim blaming suddenly okay, you know.

#the askers #abuse #like ... with to mmy specifically people have literally in this scenario been spreading clips of wi.lb ur being physically aggressive #towards him. like. obviously it's a difficult scenario no matter how you cut it when someone you're obviously close to #ends up being a shitty person that hurt a lot of people. but also uh look their relationship has had certain . concerning elements #for a long ass time. and we're talking about a guy that's had SO MANY of his professional and personal acquaintances #come out now and say that they personally have been a victim of his manipulation or know people who are #or you know. gestures at clips of him apparently biting a lot of people around that group in that area or whatever #like look we are in a situation where these patterns of behavior were extending to basically everyone he knew #so like. in the least truthy way possible bc /i dont know/ i dont know them i dont know their relationship #but also i can see patterns and i want to take the safest approach to this in terms of what im expecting from to . mmy's #hypothetical response. why are people assuming that he's just magically spared from any of this and has to just be like #a complete bystander??? why is the immediate assumption that there's no way he could be hurt as well #by someone described by associates as being manipulative to quite literally everyone he meets

[cuubism]

exactly how and where do the Endless have their family dinners? hosting it in any one of their individual realms seems fraught with power dynamics, that's right out. it has to be on neutral ground. so... the human world then? meeting in a human restaurant would also prevent a fair degree of antics and fighting, as they can't be revealing all their Endless powers to a bunch of random folks.

this is all to say, i invite you to imagine Endless family dinner at Olive Garden.

#the endless #the sandman #listen it would be a BLAST okay #first of all NOBODY is dressed appropriately for the venue #desire looks like they're going to new york fashion week #dream ALSO looks like he's going to new york fashion week but in a completely different way #delirium looks like she's going to burning man. destiny just came from larping lord of the rings #despair may or may not be wearing bedsheets #and poor death in true eldest sister vibes is the only one presenting a reasonable front #destiny ends up ordering for everyone and the server is like uh is that okay? and they're all like yeah that's what we were gonna order :/ #delirium gets bottomless mimosas eventho its a. dinner and b. she looks 16. but no one is willing to stop her #death orders a whole bottle of wine for herself because that's the only way she's getting through this #it takes exactly 1 minute for desire and dream to start sniping at each other #desire *on their 3rd long island ice tea* i bet i can manipulate that guy over there into proposing to his date #dream *dead sober and regretting it* i bet i can make him dream of BREAKING UP WITH HER #(meanwhile the poor guy's having a stroke from these conflicting influences) #desire: well then i bet i can make him SCREAM about how he HATES HER #dream: well *I* bet i can make him STORM OUT OF THE RESTAURANT AND NEVER RETURN #desire: oh yeah you know all about that don't you #dream throws a drink at their face #desire picks up a CHAIR and hurls it back #death wishes she could collect her own life and leave for the sunless lands #delirium is in the corner like: manipulating one guy is easy! i bet i could get someone to burn down the whole restaurant! :D #before they inevitably get kicked out desire shoves 8 servings of breadsticks into their purse #the olive garden may burn down later in a tragic accident #who knows #and that night bizarre numbers of people dream of having shitty family dinner at a mediocre chain restaurant #for reasons unknown!

[dailykugisaki]

Day 156 | id in alt

MINDING MY OWN BUSINESS AND DRAWING NBMK WHEN I GET HIT WITH THE MOST RANCID EVIL BOOP. AN ILL OMEN.

#dailykugisaki #jjk #kugisaki nobara #zenin maki #Maki wears like puffy and baggy clothing just a lot of warm ass clothing its obnoxious #its obvious that her body doesn't generate heat due to the heavenly restriction #maki is one of those like horror stories where you look at somebody with termal stuff and theyre cold as shit #Kugisaki is hilariously warm #her favorite season is straight up summer if that wasn't obvious #she gets to wear what she wants and she can run around and nobody gives a FUCK #summer is just a season where you can run around and Kugisaki takes full advantage of that #its the fact she can manipulate her cursed energy good enough to where it dosent interrupt her body temperature YUHHH #also to who evil booped me #you know who you are #im getting you back as we speak #yes this is nbmk #nbmk #just saying #maki is like “whatever makes Nobara happy ill just let her do it” #ACTING LIKE KUGISAKI DOSENT WANT TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT MAKI WANTS TOO LIKE?? GIRL SPEAK THE FUCK UP #i will be back on my bear Kugisaki shit soon i can feel it in my bones #oomf. you're in luck for bear Kugi-isms

[sysig]

Bitter breakup rivalry (Patreon)

#Doodles #Wander Over Yonder #Emperor Awesome #Commander Peepers #I dunno lol I just wanted to draw Awesome being pathetic and insulting Peepers and maybe immediately regretting it :) #As much as I think their relationship dynamic could go very well I also think it could go very poorly >:3c They have a lot of potential! #Awesome trying to get too close too fast to manipulate him before he's proven a useful asset would basically be a death sentence hehe #Especially if he tried to flex about it - he definitely has physical might over Peepers but honestly I think that'd just piss him off furthe #Like ''You think you can just sling your weight around and intimidate me? Hah! Who do you think I work for?'' #Even with the equivalent of a peashooter I think Peepers could take him on ♪ I mean heck he beat the Potted Plant with just his hat #He's very resourceful! Out of necessity but hey it just means he's practiced! I think he could MacGyver his way out of most confrontations #Plus y'know - Awesome is already kinda pathetic haha ♪ He gets a bruised /ego/ and he goes home what would a smack to his face do #That said he was there for the Battle Royale - I think he's aware of his intimidation factor :) Intimidation is also charisma! Haha #I think a fight between them would be interesting Especially if they brought feelings into it but even just a slugout haha #Awesome's really fun to pose I definitely would've drawn more of him being dramatic if I hadn't run out of room #But I mean so is Peepers! They're so fun to draw ahh <3 Look at his shoe/knee contact! Flat foot on the ground! I'm so pleased! #Only took a very cartoony style to finally get me to work on contact points haha ♪

[volivolition]

suggestion do you have... any wants? like obviously you do but like? suggestion my guy my ourple boy. both the easiest and hardest to write. you need a skill to say something to move conversation along but it doesn't fit any skill in particular? about 80% of the time you can have suggestion say it and it will make sense. but like actually characterizing him... how do i define you dude... what makes your character tick... urgh. i dont get you yet. im trying to understand but you are difficult.

#chemi chats #there are some skills that i just dont understand yet and that just means i have to work on their character study chapter #im reading his bio and i think suggestion is a good manipulator and it's instinctive and he tries not to feel bad about it? #he's clever!! charming!! friends with savvy and drama. planting seeds in the mind and coaxing them to grow towards him like he's the sun. #a crude oil reservoir lying beneath a carefully laid flower bed. taps into the roots. the plants don't know any better than to drink. #he's great at sensing what makes people tick and uses that to his advantage. he needs goals to look forward to so he knows how to best #pull the strings to get them there. otherwise he's a bit aimless. he likes being useful. and since influencing others is helpful #he just keeps doing it? because it's what he's good at. and he tries to convince himself its fun and cool and just cuz hes charming and #it's his role as a skill and manipulation isnt thaaaat bad because it's helpful to them after all... but he does feel bad sometimes. #oh im listening to his voice lines and i just got to ''brother you should have put me in front of a firing squad'' and im sad about him now #but what do you want for short term little guy?? probably for people to like him. he likes chatting with people. i bet he'd like genuine #conversations with no strings attached but there's always some part of him filing information and tidbits away that he can't turn off #subconsciously figuring out things he can hold over them or how he can nudge them into thinking someth-/wait.../ no. no he's just talking. #he's /supposed/ to just be talking stop analyzing them stop falling back into that just have a normal conversation!! but he can't help it.. #hm. this is all really helpful for his chapter. he and empathy are very alike but also different. very interesting... #task: swept up #okay good talk everyone i think i understand him a little better now lmao?? still gotta figure him out some more hes not fully there but ye #also i think he goes by whatever pronoun you think he'd use. just ''oh what do /you/ think i am hm?? what /would/ i use; do you think?? :)' #funny fella. i love you.

[andromeda3116]

"One day when I was a young boy on holiday in Uberwald, I was walking along the bank of a stream when I saw a mother otter with her cubs. A very endearing sight, I'm sure you will agree, and even as I watched, the mother otter dived into the water and came up with a plump salmon, which she subdued and dragged onto a half-submerged log. As she ate it, while of course it was still alive, the body split and I remember to this day the sweet pinkness of its roes as they spilled out, much to the delight of the baby otters who scrambled over themselves to feed on the delicacy. One of nature's wonders, gentlemen: mother and children dining upon mother and children. And that's when I first learned about evil. It is built into the very nature of the universe. Every world spins in pain. If there is any kind of supreme being, I told myself, it is up to all of us to become his moral superior."

--Lord Vetinari, Unseen Academicals by Terry Pratchett

#discworld #gnu terry pratchett #lord vetinari #havelock vetinari #discworld quotes #i love that philosophy and feel it in my gut and bones: #''if there is a higher power then it's our prerogative to be better than it'' #like that quote from nation about the gods letting you down and how kneeling to them would be bowing to murderers and bullies #or the whole theme of small gods where the higher power needs to learn to care about the people he demands worship from #pratchett often returns to this theme of ''what do you do when your god(s) fail you?'' #and having once felt like my god absolutely failed me - although i didn't have the words to see it like that at the time - that resonates #i've said before that that was such a revelation: those were the words of my last unanswered prayer #i have many intellectual reasons now to be an atheist but at the core it's... #if the universe is chaos then it cannot be cruel. there is no one who could have saved you but didn't for their own opaque reasons #if there is no god then no god failed me or left me drowning in despair for a whole year #small gods helped me conceptualize that in ways that defy words and literally changed my life and perspective for the better #anyway. this quote is magnificent. ''mother and child feasting upon mother and child'' #and it makes so much of vetinari's character make so much sense #he looked at the world through cynical and bitter eyes but instead of becoming a nihilist who manipulated the cruel world for his own gain #he said ''we can and must be better than this'' #(this is why i feel like kaz brekker - under inej's influence - should grow up to be like havelock vetinari) #(the one who clenches his fist and fucking *fixes* this goddamned place)

[linabirb]

sobbing i just said i was sleepy and my family went "OHHHH IT'S BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOTHING TO DO ANYMORE. IT'S BECAUSE YOU DON'T GO OUTSIDE ANYMORE. IT'S BECAUSE YOU DON'T GO TO CLASS IN PERSON ANYMORE" okay. but what if i'm simply eepy

#you know what's also very (not) fun about this. i've literally said that i'm either taking online classes or dropping out #and they basically manipulated me to take the online classes bc “okay! you can drop out but we don't have any money left :)” #like wow way to make me look like the bad guy #BUT NOW THAT I'M STILL A STUDENT I'M JUST NOT ACTUALLY GOING TO CLASS THEY'RE STILL MAKING ME LOOK LIKE I'M LAZY. SHUT UP #also. also also. when the weather is nice i try to spend as much time outside as possible #but guess what. it's winter. the icicles are huge and it's snowing nonstop. what am i supposed to do #[ 💚 𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐚 𝐭𝐚𝐥𝐤𝐬 ]

[doopn00p]

Semi creepy looking Tem’s cuz I think that’s kinda cool

#tem the alpaca #tem #he needs more fanart tbh #legoshi #legosi #why does he have two names #greedy bastard #what if tem was a manipulator #hmmmmmm #what a twist #beastars #fanart #short little doodles #I’m using that lightly #you can interpret that scene in whatever you want it to be #I know it’s a little 🫣 but let’s be honest beastars is always 🫣 #I like temu more than tem #inspired by kakegurui #their creeppy looks are so good 😮‍💨 #I always draw him different everytime god

[mollypaup]

wrapping my arms around utena and kozue and nanami and their violent struggle for agency in a violently misogynistic system. babygirls you are doing it so poorly but no one can hold it against you because you are 12 and the game is rigged against you.

#insane about rgu again #nanami is so entrenched in the crab bucket mentality that she thinks she can escape misogyny on a pile of corpses of other girls #and kozue is convinced she can escape it by leveraging her own physical appeal to manipulate the men in her life #and utena is convinced that if she just plays the role just right. if she does it well enough. she can become the system #and make the system good #and they're all so genuine and they're all so frightened and they're all so angry and they're all children #and i love them #rgu #only tangentially related #but anthy is such a good look into the psychological impacts of what feeling like you have no control over your own body has #especially on her idea of self agency #'i thought i was a doll with no feelings' <my beloved daughter i am going to explode akio into a fine mist

[fuzzbuns]

Arlecchino discourse is really awkward because both sides are so convinced they are right and that the other side just lacks media literacy but 9 times out of 10 the take in question is also wrong and it leaves me scratching my head a little bit….

#fuzzy rambles #like either they are like ‘no she is bad and doesnt care for the kids at all’ or its ‘she is good actually and does care for the kids’ #and for me its like… damn…. its actually a little more complicated than that but ok ig #saw someone say she doesnt care for freminet or lynette she just uses them as pawns for lyney to be her heir #which is so incorrect on almost every level #it’s basically a self report that they dont know freminet or lynettes relationship with arlecchino #like i think we can agree raising child solider is problematic or whatever while not painting everything she does as master manipulation #like the things ppl claim are just her 5000 level iq manipulation… rolling my eyes it doesnt even make sense #but at the same time she obviously isnt a saint who has everyones best interests in mind because they are still childe soliders #even tho things got better when she took control there is still a lot of cultish and cruel behaviors the kids get drilled into them #tho honestly the whole fatui is like that look at any of the recurits who arent from the orphanage and they are equally brainwashed #if not us than who or whatever (girl who thinks about what happened in the chasm and want to eat drywall) #idk. dont yall have parents? like u can love and care for a child and still suck as a parent #you can try to not become ur abusive mother and still turn into a monster of sorts #ignore the childe instead of child its literally muscle memory how embarrassing

[comixandco]

my favourite part of season 5 is still the reveal that Gabriel and Tomoe thought Adrien and Kagami made the perfect pair and wanted them to be together because it completely flips their relationship

Kagami and Adrien sneaking around and finding the slightest gaps in their schedule and giving their bodyguards/parents the slip to spend time together and feeling so clever that they’ve gotten away with it their parents don’t suspect a thing

only to smashcut to Gabriel and Tomoe doing an evil pound it because their ship is canon

#miraculous ladybug #ml s5 #gabriel agreste #tomoe tsurugi #adrien agreste #kagami tsurugi #it’s the illusion of free choice™ #it was a very clever plan tbf like if they told them to date it would be awkward and forced. but put them in the same room together and see #what happens… let them think it was all their idea… boom success! #then the next step is saying ‘yes i only just found out you’ve been dating kagami and i have decided to give you my permission to date her- #what do you mean you broke up a month ago and your dating the baker girl who made a hat for me one time?’ #on the flipside though it probably wouldn’t have worked out in the long run bc kagami likes the thrill of a secret forbidden romance like #that’s partially what drove her to felix imo so if tomoe said one day ‘it’s come to my attention you’re dating the agreste boy. i approve o #of this match and have organised a date for you two on friday.’ you Know kagami would immediately go #‘oh no.. okay um so now i’m kind of feeling that everything about him that was attractive to me before isn’t really there anymore…’ #also on the flipside like looking at it on a more deeper/serious level like it just goes to show how much control tomoe and gabriel have o #er their kids to the point that they would be willing to manipulate them into a relationship and then when #the two of them tried and realised it wasn’t working. instead of admitting they don’t know their children as well as they think they do #or acknowledging that their children are actual people who have their own feelings that don’t always match their parents #or coming to terms that their children aren’t extensions of their legacy and will that they can puppet however they want #instead they say ‘okay we tried the hands off way now we’ll just have to force them’