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roukabi · 1 year

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if you're still into hadestown id love to hear more details of act II in your broadway x nytw au :)

OHHH ANON DEAREST....... YOU’VE ACTIVATED MY INFODUMP CARD!

ok ok first of all i am so sorry for my incessant videnoirposting, rest assured i am still very very into hadestown and I Will become normal again! and i have a backlog of ht-related art to finish lol.

Second.... BOY OH BOY DO I LOVE TALKING ABOUT MY NYTW x BWAY AU!

(for the uninitiated: for the longest time i've had this nytw x broadway au, called the “Old Song” au, in which nytw orpheus becomes a very sad ghost and haunts the present (broadway) orpheus. Meanwhile, nytw Eurydice and bway Eurydice find each other in Hadestown and try to help each other 'survive'. I’d recommend reading the first part, otherwise the rest of this post won’t make much sense. I'll drop the link in a rb.)

(And I'm putting this under a readmore, because this is gonna get long.)

Now there are a few things I forgot to mention in that post, one of them being what this whole AU is actually about. Greek tragedy says that, despite what we (the audience) desire and what we understand, the characters will still fail. And that's alright. Life goes on, sometimes for the better. It's awful, but it's not the end.

In this AU, we're past having the characters try and fail. And y’know, it wasn't the end for them, either! Their failures mattered then, and they will now! Orpheus and Eurydice's futures will still go on whether they want them to or not!

But... because they are worlds apart, with (seemingly) no other way of reuniting and having the happy ending they desired... does that leave any hope for either of them?

This leads me to another theme of Hadestown, and the one I'm focusing on in this AU: despite everything, there will always be hope. It might take a while to see it, but it's always gonna be there. And how this AU is gonna work out is that we'll see this hope manifest in some characters (bway Orpheus, nytw Eurydice), how the lack of hope manifests in others (nytw Orpheus, bway Eurydice), and how all of that is subject to change as the characters grow. Somehow, though, they'll all have to cling onto that hope - that struggling dream of a better future - if they want to finally build a better life.

enough cringe talk about themes let's get some found family in this house

Soo.... Act II! I'm gonna start a bit ahead, where the first post left off: the Orphei are traversing the underground, and nytw Eurydice is giving bway Eurydice refuge.

Anyway, where we last left off, the Orphei have made it to the underworld! bway Orpheus kind of broke the Wall, which nytw Orph (nicknamed Ghost in this AU to make things easier, and to let nytw Orph distance himself from his past life) takes as good sign. If he can get past the wall like that by singin' a little tune, then the rest of the journey will be a cinch!

...It was not, in fact, a cinch.

Everything in Hadestown is Really loud, Really bright, and Really unfriendly to trespassers. Bway Orpheus gets overwhelmed very quickly and nytw Orph gets frustrated - he knows this place already, and also knows that strolling in during daytime hours is a one-way ticket to death (see Hermes's advice in Wait for Me).

They end up hiding in some abandoned worker cabin for the rest of the day, a rather unproductive start to their journey.

It's not helping matters that the Orphei had quite the argument back during Chant - nytw Orpheus got after bway Orpheus for not helping Eurydice, and it got to the point where he deliberately tried to break bway Orpheus's optimism so that he'd "wake up" and "finally try to be useful"... yes he was projecting, no it was not fun, yes it is still eating at him, and Yes, their relationship is... pretty strained right now. As if bway Orpheus's self-esteem wasn't already garbage.

This isn't the case for the Eurydices though! They're chilling in the house nytw Eurydice borrowed from Persephone + are escaping work quotas. The bad news is that they're content with sharing a name, which is kind of frustrating to try and write. Oh well!

Anyway, bway Eurydice finds it nice to have someone who actually understands her. Not that Orpheus wasn't understanding, he really, really, was, but he just didn't see the world the way she did. And nytw Eurydice can talk to someone who hasn't lost their head to the mines + machines! So yeah they hit it off real fast.

Eventually, though, bway Eurydice asks how the other managed to get stuck in Hadestown for so long. Nytw Eurydice stiffens. Frowns a bit. She stares at the floor for a beat or two before telling her that she doesn't know. Forgot.

She does know. She knows that it could probably happen to bway Eurydice, too, given all their similarities. But she's not going to be the one to break this new girl's spirit.

It's a vow that nytw Eurydice makes around the same time nytw Orpheus does, too. bway Orpheus isn't sleeping, and whether it's the noise outside the cabin walls, or the sneering voices in his head, nytw Orph doesn't really want to know.

That poor kid. He'd been nothing but kind to nytw Orpheus, trying to make his (after)life more bearable, a little more colorful - and nytw Orpheus had the gall to tear him down. He wouldn't have dared to hurt him if he were his old self.

It's just that bway Orpheus doesn't know how the world really is. Hadestown was cruel, and its brainwashed people wouldn't stop at hunting him down. Hades wouldn't let Eurydice go - not without an impossible price to pay. Nytw Orpheus didn't want to crush his successor's hopes by telling him all that.

And yet, he kind of... did.

Damn it.

He’s got to be better toward that boy. For both their sakes.

The nytw duo realizes that, despite what happened to them before, they can’t let it interfere with the future of the bway duo. There’s still a chance for things to turn out, and after all, they aren’t the ones with something to lose.

However, not everyone in this story has this mindset. There’s still one more thing I really forgot to mention in the last post...

Because of her appearance in both NYTW and Broadway Hadestown, Jessie Shelton’s fate, Clotho, is here to add even more conflict! What about her sisters? uhhhhhhhh don’t worry about it lol they’re fine. She’s with the bway Lachesis and Atropos, but this is likely to change.

Clotho’s not pleased with the trajectory of this story. It was her job to keep it from changing, and now her #1 enemies are coming around to throw wrenches in her plans? Well. If she’s going to clean up the messes they’re making, she might as well have fun with it.

Clotho ends up terrorizing all four heroes, but really the bway duo, and mostly bway Orpheus because in the end, it's his actions that will determine the outcome of the story. The nytw duo is Very Much Not Happy with Clotho’s existence and they get very protective of their counterparts whenever she shows up.

bway Orph tries really hard to guard nytw Orph from her, knowing their history and all. It doesn’t really work, but he tries!

(Clotho does, at one point, threaten to kill bway Orph if the Orphei continue their journey. Remember this.)

The Eurydices learn more about each other the more questions bway Eurydice asks - Do you think your Orpheus is looking for you? Is he down here? Will everyone forget about me, too? Different words, all asking the same thing: Is there a chance for me to get out of here?

bway Eurydice tries not to show it, but she’s scared. She has no idea what she’s gotten herself into, and she’s desperate for a ray of hope.

Nytw Eurydice tries her best to reassure her, but sometimes she just can’t answer.

bway Eurydice does ask if the other workers could break free of Hadestown’s brainwashing. Nytw Eurydice thinks it’s possible.

Meanwhile, the Orphei have taken to sleeping during the day and moving at night - to keep from getting caught. bway Orpheus isn’t handling this well, nor is he handling the constant overstimulation, the paranoia of being an ‘outlaw’, all the pain and horrors inflicted on Hadestown’s people, Clotho being Clotho, etc., and one night he just... breaks down. He never thought the world could be this cruel.

Luckily for him, though, a certain someone who understands exactly what he’s going through sits down with him. Lets him vent. Gives him a hug.

Nytw Orpheus finally apologizes to the boy for his distance, and convinces him that not everything is awful; they have each other, and the very reason Nytw Orpheus is down with him is that he cares about bway Orph and wants to protect him.

It’s here that bway Orpheus starts to smile again.

From that night on, things are a little better. Sure, all the terrible things mentioned 4 bullet points ago still exist, but now the Orphei are joking between one another, collaborating on songs, and climbing the petrified trees scattering Hadestown’s landscape.

And for the Eurydices, life-after-death is getting... almost bearable?! Nytw Eurydice made the other a notebook of all her surface memories, just in case, and it’s not like either of them stopped singing. They’ll go out and check if one of their Orphei is out there. Sometimes they’ll just talk for hours about whatever the Memory of the Day is.

For the first time in decades, there's a sound so sweet and clear against the echoes of steel on stone: laughter is heard in the realm of Hades.

A month or two pass, and neither party has found the other. It’s around this time when the bway duo wonders about their companion’s past.

It’s a topic that sickens the nytw duo, but they figure it’s time to talk about what happened. Time to show where all these mental - and in some cases, physical - scars came from.

After nytw Orpheus turned, Eurydice was almost immediately offered sanctuary by Persephone, who took pity on her. Eurydice took it, as long as she didn’t have to see Hades ever again.

She’d be lying if she said she wasn’t upset with Orpheus. She was actually pretty bitter about him for months, before she came to terms with how powerless they both were in that situation.

However, time wore on, and the mini-revolution Eurydice + Orpheus created fell further into obscurity. Less workers remembered what happened that fateful night. And then, to Eurydice’s dread, not even the gods knew who she was anymore. Afraid of losing herself, Eurydice hid by herself most of the time, alone with her memories in the old goddess’s house. At least without Hades knowing her, she couldn’t be tracked.

For Orpheus... well, he definitely didn’t receive a hero’s welcome upon returning to the surface. Wholly blamed for the loss of his wife, Orpheus, too, hid himself from the public. His relationship with Hermes soured as he pressured the poet to move on. It wasn’t just a shift in the people, either - in the rare times when Orpheus played music, his songs were so sorrowful that nature herself turned gray, and wept. Believing the change in Orpheus to be a curse, the townspeople banished him. Not that Orpheus had any time to grieve - he had brought upon himself the fury of the Maenads, whose courtship he refused. They slaughtered him by the river and threw his bones into the current. (Hermes found them, but never told Eurydice.) Orpheus woke up as a ghost, stuck on the surface with his guitar. No longer could he be seen, heard, or touched by mortals. Not that they’d want to find him, anyway, Orpheus thinks.

All four members of this Songbird Quartet are in tears by the time the tales are told.

It’s also worth mentioning that both nytw Orpheus and Eurydice conveniently left out the part where Orpheus turns.

It’s also also worth mentioning that nytw Orpheus takes off his red jacket for the first time since death, letting bway Orph see the extent of the Maenad’s brutality.

The strangest thing happened to the nytw duo, though: things started getting much better for them once the bway duo came into their lives. Orpheus is finding his hope again and Eurydice has found meaning in her afterlife. Through the tragedy, something good did happen.

(... uh, little side note: I really hope y’all are catching on that the relationships between Orphei and Eurydices... are platonic in a brother/sister sense. I mean, I can’t stop you from shipping them, i guess, but romance isn’t what I’m aiming for... that’s all.)

A n y w a y , what ho! After months of searching, bway Orpheus gets the biggest smile on his face upon seeing his beloved Eurydice creeping through metal stacks surrounding Hades’s mansion (it’s work hours). The Orphei agree to split up for a bit: bway Orpheus reunites with Eurydice, while nytw Orph makes a quick last look for his own lover.

He travels a little far, and then farther, getting increasingly desperate. Where is she? Was he never meant to find her? Is she on the other side of Hadestown? Where is she now?

Panic and heartache spark in his chest and he starts to call her name into the expanse.

“...Orpheus?”

The voice is from behind. Orpheus won’t dare turn around. Not again.

She knows this. She knows his posture, too, and the shape of his hands - which are shaking. She comes up to his side and takes one before facing him. Tears are already spilling over his cheeks.

“It’s you.”

Tears threaten to spill on Eurydice’s cheeks, too.

“It’s me.”

yayyyy they’re together again! it’s really sappy and they keep apologizing to each other for everything. It’s a little sad when Eurydice puts a hand on Orpheus’s scarred face but that’s neither here nor there.

But woe! the happy reunion is cut short when a loud, booming voice shakes the songbirds’ cores:

“Young man!”

Eeeheeeheheeehee

the nytw duo, realizing that their sibling is now in Huge Danger, rush to Hades’s mansion. There stand a stricken bway Orpheus, a dreading bway Eurydice, Persephone, Hades, Hermes, workers... and the Fates.

There’s a moment of “woah everyone’s here” as the Songbird Quartet recognizes one another.

Hades and Persephone don’t recognize nytw Orph, which is great for some reasons and terrible for others.

Hades tells bway Orph that Eurydice can’t go back - she signed the deal, and sold her soul. Orpheus, horrified, looks at her, and Hades... and nytw Orph, who was too afraid to tell him.

Nytw Eurydice, on the other hand, stares down Clotho with a ‘what the fuck do you want’ look. Clotho just smiles.

Hey, so, remember when I told you that Clotho threatened to kill bway Orpheus if they kept looking for Eurydice? Well.........

Hades calls upon the workers to drive bway Orpheus out. Unfortunately, though, Clotho has also given them the order to kill. Her word isn’t questioned: If Fate wishes it, then it shall be so, after all.

Clotho + her sisters nab bway Eurydice. Two workers restrain nytw Orpheus, who, while not knowing what exactly will happen to bway Orph, can deduct from Clotho’s threat that it won’t be good, and begs Hades to spare the boy. Nytw Eurydice, still wearing worker clothes and remaining undetected, sneaks out of the fuss and creeps behind the mansion (if we are thinking of the stage setup, where everyone is kind of in a circle, the nytw duo are on the opposite side from where the Fates + bway Eurydice are).

Workers circle bway Orpheus, and he gives nytw Orpheus one last terrified look before the first strike lands.

Now, we all know nytw Orpheus as a guy who’d have no problem throwing hands during Papers. Except this Orpheus has been ruined by his past, and freezes up when he sees the mob attack bway Orpheus. There are screams in his ears that aren’t there, the smell of metal, blood and wine, and a thousand terrible scenes in his head. It’s too much for him to watch.

...But the very reason nytw Orpheus is down here is because he cares about his newfound brother and wants to protect him. It was the one thing he promised to do.

So god damn, what was he doing?

Something snaps in him and he tries once again to wrestle his arms away from the workers holding him back. They don’t budge - nytw Orpheus’s strength is his words, not his muscles.

But then a low thud sounds against nytw Orpheus’s ears, and the hold goes loose.

“Go!” cries nytw Eurydice, wielding a shovel and slamming its head against the other worker’s. “I’ll get Eurydice!”

nytw Orpheus gives a quick nod of thanks to his lover before rushing up to bway Orpheus, grabbing a pickaxe on the way.

Bway Orpheus has tried to flee the pack, but they keep catching him and throwing him down. He’s exhausted, he’s injured, and they aren’t letting up. One of the workers - the largest one in the mob - raises a pick. Orpheus can’t get himself off the ground.

Then there’s a flash of red, a scream, a metallic smell.

bway Orpheus dares to open his eyes and sees that the mob has stopped, paralyzed with shock. The worker who held the pick now clutched his arm instead, pressing against a long, gruesome tear in the skin.

And standing in front of him, a pickaxe in his hands and a wild, cold glare that’s stark against his bloodied face - is Orpheus’s brother.

A couple steps behind the mob are the Eurydices, and one of them still has her shovel. Nytw Orpheus shouts at the workers, telling them to back off (in a much ruder way). The workers, seeing the outcome of fighting these three, retreat.

Nytw Orpheus, chest heaving, drops the pickaxe and carefully steps over bway Orpheus so that he is behind the latter. He gently scoops the boy into his arms. He’s blacked out, but he’s still got a pulse, thank the gods.

Now, while nytw Eurydice did do what she said she would (free Eurydice), that doesn’t mean she got rid of the fates. And of course, Clotho appears.

Nytw Eurydice somehow keeps enough composure to not beat the shit out of her with a rusty shovel. She gives Clotho enough time for her to say that while, yes, the initial murder plan was foiled by our heroic rulebreakers, the damage has already been done. bway Orpheus has been told that his lover sold herself to Hades, and on top of that, the people who could’ve been his friends on the surface nearly killed him in Hadestown. It’s not like this was a sudden effect - Orpheus’s worldview started crumbling the minute he entered Hadestown. This was just the last step. Now with that sweet, sweet doubt in his head, things should go back to normal.

bway Eurydice is quite shaken by this - it’s her story, too. So nytw Eurydice swings her shovel a bit to get her to fuck off. Clotho does. (I like to think that the Fates can appear + disappear in a plume of dark smoke. Just a lil thing that’d look cool in animation.)

The three of them kinda. stare at each other for a bit.

They take bway Orph to nytw Eurydice’s house to patch him up and rest. Nytw Orpheus washes the blood from his face, and there’s a distant look in his eyes as he recovers from what he did. bway Eurydice, who’s a smidge intimidated by him, says she thought he was pretty cool back there. It gets nytw Orpheus to laugh just the slightest bit, and thus, a friendship is born.

Nytw Eurydice and Orpheus take some time to catch each other up on what happened to them while bway Eurydice looks after her Orpheus.

He wakes up after some hours, a little worried, but with Eurydice there he settles down. She jogs his memory of what happened.

He starts venting to her, apologizing profusely for putting everyone in this mess and placing all their hopes on a song he couldn’t finish. Nothing Eurydice says can comfort him.

Unfortunately, Clotho was right: bway Orpheus is shattered. He goes on about how he is at fault, not just for Eurydice’s imprisonment in Hadestown, but for forcing nytw Orpheus to re-live his trauma to save him, and putting nytw Eurydice back on Hades’s hitlist. He’s hopeless, he says. This whole journey is hopeless. And because he’s the one to blame, he’s better off leaving.

He tries to leave Hadestown, despite the other three trying to get him to stop, but there’s another force keeping him from going too far: the workers. They’ve been listening to his plight, and they feel their old humanity come back to them at his sorrowful song (If It’s True).

Orpheus looks at his family, then looks back at the workers. Perhaps he did do something good for these people. Perhaps there’s still a chance for them.

Hermes comes up to the quartet, bearing news (it’s kind of his thing): Hades has also heard what the workers are starting to whisper about - a possible revolt against Hadestown’s cold-hearted structure - and demands for the four of them to come to his mansion. It’s judgment time.

Nytw Orpheus, who is bitter toward Hermes, demands to know why he didn’t help bway Orpheus since he was a god. Hermes, unfazed, asks why he couldn’t prevent the mob from attacking bway Orpheus, if he’d already lived Orpheus’s life. This quiets nytw Orpheus’s anger.

At the mansion, Hades tries to intimidate bway Orpheus before he actually passes judgment, though a very aggressive nytw Orpheus protects the other. Not today, Hades!

Persephone gives the Eurydices a bit of advice - maybe a mix of the London and NYTW Seph verses for Chant II - as she, too, heard the poet’s song.

The Fates are also there, watching. Plotting, probably.

Finally, Hades gives bway Orpheus his task: Sing a pretty song, and perhaps Hades will make use of him and spare his family. If he fails, it’s to the Great Beyond for all of them.

bway Orph is shaking like an autumn leaf. He’s not done with his song. It never worked the way he wanted it to. He’d tried to get nytw Orpheus to help him with it, but he’d refused, saying that if the song were really special, it would’ve come straight from bway Orpheus’s heart.

From the heart. Okay. That’s what Orpheus will do.

And to make a long story short, it works. beautifully. Orpheus sings his song of love and it swells as everyone else joins in. It’s like the heart of Hadestown is glowing.

At the end, Hades remembers his love for Persephone. He remembers his humanity. The old gods dance as if they were young lovers again.

And Orpheus just about blacks out again from cathartic relief. (Side note: I like to think that nytw Orph says something along the lines of “Easy there, rockstar!” I know the term won’t come around until the 60s but I think it’s really cute :))

Well, things seem to be going alright now! Hades isn’t as Bent on Harming the Four, Persephone’s smiling again, the workers are getting hopeful, and our four songbirds are together now.

... Except, a look of unease haunts the nytw duo’s faces. They know what comes next after this. So does Clotho. The song wasn’t the real test, as we all know.

bway Orph asks if they can go, Hades says no, blah blah blah we've been here before.

Hermes tells the four (well, mainly the bway duo) of the task ahead. They are, of course, dumbfounded and frightened by what it entails. They look back at their older siblings, wordlessly asking, “did you know?”

Nytw Orpheus and Eurydice look away.

The bway duo demands them to tell the full truth of how they were separated. So they do. They tell their doomed successors that nytw Orpheus failed to bring them both out, and that the chances of it happening again are high. It’s completely up to the new duo, and the nytw duo didn’t want to talk of it out of fear of crushing their hopes.

The bway duo is... not pleased. They’re not just crushed, they’re betrayed. How could the nytw duo lie to them for so long, lead them down this path just to pull the rug out from under them?

Nytw Orpheus reaches out to bway Orpheus, but the latter backs away, and leaves them. Bway Eurydice just shakes her head. She leaves them, too.

That night, when the four are preparing for the journey out, bway Eurydice finds her lover cupping his carnation in his palms. They talk quietly about the trek ahead, and Eurydice tells Orpheus that, even though their predecessors failed, that doesn’t mean they will, too. For what it’s worth, said predecessors didn’t have dead companions to travel with. And if the nytw duo were able to change (for the better) because of the bway duo’s actions, then maybe their ending could, too. “If they could do it, so can we.”

Orpheus smiles, but his doubts still gnaw at him. What if their actions changed the outcome for the worse? He just wanted everyone to be safe and happy, but what if this night’s events shouldn’t have happened the way they did? Especially with Clotho’s plan unraveling faster than ever, did they really make all the right decisions? Could he put faith in himself, or was everything that the townspeople said up top, about the harshness of the world and all, really true?

Speaking of Clotho, she appears once more to nytw Eurydice. Eurydice snaps at her for putting everyone on the road to ruin, but Clotho merely states that she’s not the only one trying to get what she wants. Like it or not, everyone had a part to play. “This story of ours was your doing, too,” she says. “Now you finish it. I’m just helping it move along.”

As Clotho departs, Eurydice finds that statement... oddly comforting. If bway Orpheus just holds onto the hope he’d always had with him, then maybe... just maybe...

It’s a long night, and it’s a little odd with two somewhat estranged couples sharing a house. Eventually, they all decide to try and make amends in the tiny living room. Apologizing, conversing softly about their fears and hopes, curling up together on the surprisingly large worn couch. bway Orpheus lets his brother hug him.

“I’m scared.”

“I know,” nytw Orpheus whispers. “And I have so much faith in you nonetheless.”

They sleep together on the couch that night. Lovers, brothers, and sisters say “I love you”. Hell, friends do, too, why not. There’s an air of peace in the stony caverns of Hadestown, and it’s enough to bring the four to a restful sleep.

They’ll need it for the journey ahead.

And, then, that morning, they set out, and...

OHHH, GEE! Look at how long this got! Gee whizz, look at the time, too! I think it’s time to stop. We’ll leave the thrilling conclusion for another time!

Thanks a billion for the ask, anon, and thanks a lot to you, reader, if you actually got this far! I don’t write much, but when I do, I get really into it...

There’s some stuff in Act I of this AU I still haven’t talked about - mostly silly fluff between the brothers, fluff between the sisters, some angst between the brothers, orphydice fluff, and nytw Orph’s strained relationship with the new Hermes, but again, that’s for another time.

#OOOOAGHGH maybe notn didn't give me carpal tunnel but writing this sure did!#this was so much fun tho. i got so excited when i read the ask bc that's a Thing I'm Really Passionate About!#I've been refining it for years! no i don't like letting old ideas go lol #hadestown #hadestown au #hadestown broadway #hadestown nytw #orpheus #eurydice #orpheus hadestown #eurydice hadestown #nytw x broadway crossover #old song au #rook roars!#long post #rook's mailbox #also sorry if i misinterpreted all the characters. i promise bway orph is still sweet n loveable it's just that (class) war is hell #caps tw

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astrxealis · 2 years

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i think devola and popola would make me very very sad

#⋯ ꒰ა starry thoughts ໒꒱ *·˚#i like them a lot :]#ffxiv has two uhh. Dwarfs. yeah. who are based off of them slightly mhm for the nier raids crossover!#it was them against the whole village and. idk. the other dwarves just really really really pissed me off #i was 100% on the side of the twins and i think it's bcs yeah i'm a twin myself!#idk man i really love twins in fiction usually ... faves are w/o a doubt the leveilleurs but im sure dev n pop will tug at my heartstrings #i think i actually already uhh. watched the scene where yeah. HELP YEAH I SPOILED MYSELF <//3 #it's fine tho mhm strangely it's best for me to spoil myself just a Bit! adds to the experience and all. somehow.

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thetalkingwave · 2 years

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Cinderjack~

#hol horse #applejack #jjba #mlp fim #holjack #crossover shipping #wavie's art #wavie's queue #(I would ramble on and on in the tags..but mainly just take blushy AJ)#(that and I just really love fairytales~ Been listening to 3 versions of Ro/dgers and Hammerstein's Cind/erella while writing)#(then I took up to doodling and finished up what you see here)#(I'm gonna stop downplaying myself and feel iffy about my full color- this is a simplified version of my full art but not its incomplete)#(I did slow down working on it tho but it was still nice to relax and enjoy looking at color references and jazz~)#(I'll probably post the desaturated version of this untagged or on bubbly cuz I love both versions)#('I won't ramble in the tags' sURE yA wOn'T)

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astrofons-highderich · 1 year

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SINoALICE x FULLMETAL ALCHEMIST BROTHERHOOD

[Beyond the Gate, the End to Transmutation] event: Part 1

(!Contains spoilers for the FMA early plot! Here's all the main event text + mid-battle character dialogues. There's a lot so I'm splitting it into two parts: Part 2)

(There is also an alternate story with other SINoALICE characters commenting on the main events: Alt Story)

Verse 1

Verse 2

("Might as well give it a shot"- Idiots.)

Verse 3

Verse 4

Verse 5

Verse 6

Verse 7

[The Final Boss does the normal boss dying animation. The end screen appears after Alphonse next speaks, but shatters as the boss revives, attacking and instantly killing all party members.]

(Part 2) (Alt Story)

#sinoalicexfmab collab #crossover #fmab #fma #SINoALICE #i love in verse 6 how it feels very 03 coded what with the final boss looking like their failed transmutation slash sloth #gonna post full art of the fma character classes tomorrow once i evolve the weapons #rip to bradley's swords tho didn't get them but i'm sure i can find the weapon story somewhere

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dmclemblems · 2 years

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Regarding Claude and Leonie's support vs Dimitri and Yuri's: On one hand yes, Claude feeling that he can't do this himself shows that he should learn to move out of his bubble more, as Dimitri shows that being a king doesn't limit one's ability to mingle with the commoners on a personal level. But on the other hand, I still like that he gives his people a voice through Leonie - another commoner, and one of the most commoner student in the game (no experience as a rich merchant, or a famous diva, or a noble's adpoted child - she's one of the exceedingly few characters that has NO experience being any kind of well-off). It shows that he does still care for them, even if he feels like he isn't allowed to attach himself to them on a personal level - speaks to his character overall really, that he genuinely cares about the people around him but something in HIM stops him from connecting to others as much as he wants to.

He's more disconnected from the commoners than Dimitri is, but it's something he acknowledges and something he's working on in his own way - and that way involves his friends! It involves TRUSTING his friends to help him!! - and that's kinda neat to me. Well, until the game decided that actually he hates having any responsibility and that he wants to run away from all of the work he gave himself before blaming his own actions on an innocent woman that he's going to brutally slaughter for no reason. Since Hopes is apparently deathly allergic to even the CONCEPT of basic consistency.

damn i was gone from tumblr for so long that i didn’t know asks could get this long lmao

Oh I do like that Claude is getting help from commoners. That at least is a very normal thing for Claude to do.

I do feel like it was pretty odd for him to take on all that work and then continuously make jokes about not wanting to do it. It was consistent enough that it sounds like he actually regrets it, and iirc there was a quick mention implying he might?

Part of what aggravates me about the way Claude was written in this game is that yeah, he blames what he does on everyone else, such as “they wouldn’t surrender” or “they have to surrender so there are fewer causalities or else it’s their fault if people die”. I hate that he takes no responsibility for invading other people’s lands and pulls the “it’s their fault” card when really, Faerghus was minding its own business. It’s not Dimitri’s fault that people die in a war that he didn’t start. He was working on Faerghus’ politics and defending from the Empire. You can’t go to someone’s house, rob them while armed and then go “it’s your fault your family died because you wouldn’t give me your valuables”. That’s just stupid, and Claude isn’t supposed to be stupid.

Another thing that bothered me was just the overall lack of consistency in the second half. In the first half he was fine, but in the second half they made it a point to make him not want to sacrifice people and the stuff we’re used to, but then he’d turn around and do something terrible and blame his enemies for it. The only thing he took responsibility for was Randolph because all his allies got pissed about that, but if they didn’t get mad at him, he didn’t really care about what he was doing/who he had to kill.

There are times when he does seem to genuinely care regarding not wanting to kill people, but his excuses for the people he does kill always cast the blame on the actual victims. I don’t think he’s heartless, but he definitely lacks any kind of decency. Claude’s always been the type to do whatever was necessary to win as long as it didn’t involve causalities, and if it had to that would be because they were being attacked first.

For instance, he was really upset in SB when tons of people died because he insisted on fighting Leopold and the Empire still got him out of that fight alive. He wondered if they should’ve just surrendered to the Empire in the first place because it would’ve saved lives, but Hilda reminds him that the people in the Alliance would never have gone for that without putting up a fight first. In that situation, he’s upset about it but he was in the right to fight back. People died, yeah, but because he was trying to defeat the strongest general in the invading army.

It’s not Claude’s personality that I don’t like in this game. I think his general characteristics and behavior are pretty standard for what we’d expect. I just hate how they made him be the one to make all the questionable choices and do things that disregarded his morals. Even Edelgard, at least in SB, isn’t as bad as he is in GW in some ways. In SB it also seems more like Claude allied with her because he was so defeated and stressed out from their losses that he gave up. In GW, he’s a lot crueler and while I think Claude can be dubious from time to time, I don’t think he’s supposed to be outright cruel.

Like, I’m sorry but guilt tripping Ashe to join them and making Ashe question his choices for the entire rest for the game was just painful to watch. Ashe hated betraying Faerghus and probably would’ve gone down fighting if Dimitri hadn’t told him to prioritize his life over his loyalty. Claude obviously knew Dimitri was like that and used it against Ashe to make Ashe stop fighting, but it wasn’t like “you can surrender, give us the stronghold and we’ll let you live”. It was “you can surrender and join our army and actively fight against your friends or die”. When it comes to Claude, I would expect him to lean far more toward the end of “just surrender and leave” not “join our army and help us slaughter your friends :)”. Even Yuri calls him “vicious” for it.

Something I noticed was that throughout GW, the characters in camp were questioning Claude’s choices very regularly. It got to the point where a lot of people were disgusted with his choices. That does mean the writers are self aware, and that bugs me even more tbh.

It feels like they wanted to try something new with Claude but didn’t really know exactly how to pull it off, and it just feels like a convoluted mess. I want to like Claude in Hopes just because... he’s Claude and I like Claude, but it’s so damned difficult when he does half the shit he does.

#I also don't recall if the writers were new and not the same from Houses #or if there was one person from the previous writing team there and the rest were new?#I think I heard something about it not being the same writing team and I also think #I heard something about one of the old writers being there to help with it? so idk what's true in this case #It makes me sad because this is the last we'll see of these characters and I feel like for many people #this will leave a bad taste in their mouths for Claude's character #I REALLY don't expect another game/spinoff related to Fodlan #the closest thing we'd get is new Heroes alts and whatever DLC will pop up with Hopes #other than that tho I'm not sure how else they'd manage to milk this series in particular #without at least worrying about backlash from people who are tired of seeing Fodlan and co #I mean I wouldn't necessarily mind bc I love Houses and it's within my top five FE games #but I know people are gonna get bored of it much faster than me which in my case is largely bc I love the characters #I guess in the future we might end up with like... maybe another spinoff/Warriors crossover #where we get some Houses characters with other FE characters since that's what the original FE Warriors game was #that at least I could see happening and it would prob be based on Houses and not Hopes #or just some new crossover/spinoff game entirely but... other than that I wouldn't expect another Fodlan game #also they rly need a world name and not just a continent name because there are tons of known continents in this game fjkadsg #Three Hopes Spoilers #DCE Ask

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kudamono94 · 2 years

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2 Concepts I would love to see but know that would never realistically happen officially:

Alice in Wonderland but with the Tezuka Star System characters: I’m honestly surprised I couldn’t find anything like this done with his characters but I also haven’t read much of his original manga sans what I can find screencaped or cut up on posts/tweets, only watched the anime adaptations, so if this crossover actually DOES exist, pls forgive me :( (And pls send me the link to the manga/anime, I would like to see it if it’s actually real). That all aside, tbh I have a solid idea of what role each of the characters could play, but I think that some are more interchangable then others, if that makes any sense? For example, I stand firm with the idea that the March Hare, the Mad Hatter, and the Dormouse should be Lamp, Hamegg, and Skunk respectively, but when it comes to others like Alice or the White Rabbit, I have different ideas but think these roles could be played by multiple characters and it would be ok? Like I think characters like Pinoko or Princess Knight would be good as Alice, for instance, but I wouldn’t mind if they weren’t Alice? Smth like that I guess (⌒_⌒;)

Arsenic and Old Lace, but again, with the Tezuka Star System characters: Idk man, I think this could be interesting~ This movie is so darkly hilarious and chaotic, I think a parody of it using these characters would be perfect, regardless if it was fan made or otherwise. If not to see the perfect dynamic between Hamegg and Lamp as Jonathan and Dr. Einstein, then it should exist if only because I would love to see Rock Holmes as Mortimer dealing with all of the crap that happens in the movie after getting engaged to Princess Knight. However, again like with Alice in Wonderland, aside from who I think should be Jonathan and Dr. Einstein, I think all the other roles could be switched around as needed? Although tbh I still think Rock as Mortimer would be hilarious XD

Again, I know that neither of these 2 senarios will ever be made officially, but I think it would be nice to see fan art or a crossover fic of it? This is just me tho lol

#Tezuka Star System #Alice In Wonderland #Arsenic and Old Lace #Kudamono94's Texts #I had a rough day at work today and started thinking about these 2 ideas to make myself feel better so I might actually do something #myself with them in the future? Idk I just think these ideas would be nice to see and thought I'd share~#That said tho while I'm 100% sure the 2nd one doesn't exist I'm not so sure about the Alice in Wonderland crossover still #I would acutally like to be wrong on this one tbh but at the same time if it actually does exist while I would watch it I would cry if #the March Hare the Mad Hatter and the Dormouse weren't Lamp Hamegg and Skunk respectively :(#Especially Hamegg as the Mad Hatter XD I think if I got to see him dressed like that I'd die a happy person :3 #I mean my life was made 10x better after seeing the Osomatsu-san Alice in Wonderland crossovers so seeing the TSS characters in a crossover #like this would be amazing~#Also after seeing the treat of having both Kara and Oso play the Mad Hatter and Choro play the caterpillar I think me wanting to see #Mad Hatter!Hamegg is the next logical step~

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im-no-jedi · 2 years

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legit was worried my TBB hyperfixation was waning cause of how much I’ve been thinking about my D2 story over the past couple of days, but then I started listening to the theme music on loop and now I’m good ROFL

#it's actually the lofi version that I reeeeeeeeeeally love #it's SO good #I write while listening to it sometimes #but yeah I got like ten seconds in and was like IM BACK BABY #but now I'm just thinking about a TBB/D2 crossover #AKA TBB meets the Misfits #cause OBVIOUSLY I've already thought about a D2 AU before #of TBB as Guardians #I mean come on Hunter as a Hunter Guardian is RIGHT THERE #Crosshair would also be a Hunter #Echo and Tech would be Warlocks #and Wrecker would be a Titan #I keep going back and forth about Omega's class #but I'm pretty sure she would be a Hunter too #1) cause bow and 2) cause... Hunter 😝#I do like the idea of her as a Titan tho #cause she protec 😊#I legit wanna do some crossover thing tho #maybe I'll draw a comic about them meeting the Misfits #OMG and I'll have both of my self inserts there too #that would be HILARIOUS LOL #I'm tag rambling again OMG I need to stop sldkfjghioglfkds #star warz #DESTINY HOGWASH

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sysig · 1 year

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New shapeshifter lad, Dahlia (Patreon)

#Doodles #Original #Ft. Willie because surprise! Dahlia's a Squirrel shapeshifter and Will's inspiration was a squirrel originally :)#For the record tho Will and his entourage are not part of the Shifter universe - Dahlia only shares a world with the BBBs #I just thought it was a fun inspiration source crossover lol #Plus Dahlia and the Squirrel Boys have similar classes but for different reasons haha #Anyway! The Squirrel boy(s) barely feature! To Dahlia! Lol #Been thinking about some of my Favourite Tropes yet again and just indulging in making some new concepts lol #There's a trope that I've liked for a good long while that I'm sure has a name but I've just been calling it ''Platonic Transformation''#Which hey - I've got a shape-shifting (et al) universe to make characters in lol #Doesn't feature Just yet but shock among shocks she comes with another character because I can't just make one new concept ever lol #But for now! She! She's cute I like her hehe #You can see I went through a few design iterations before landing happily - you might even notice it with her arm #She was born that way :) No pain just frustration! Body not doing what she wants it to!#Honestly working on her hairstyle reminded me a lot of making Tala haha ♪ They're about the same age! Give or take a year or two #Now that I think of it Tala could probably be in the BBB universe as well haha ♪♫ Not to stay but she'd be a very cute guest #I was very set on the little floof-swoops for Dahlia's final design - it's even there in her first doodle!#I'm glad I settled on the bun/braid combo :D #Cute feature lad ♪ Tooth gap and likes peanut butter sandwiches and likes to climb and jump around but isn't as graceful in human form hehe

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manwhacrossoverfamilybecauseyes · 10 months

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Grey Like Silver, Red Like Rubies

Marcia is nervous. Very nervous.

Today is the day. She'll meet her fiancée for the first time. A prince, the oldest prince. Izeck is his name.

The little blond girl plays with the fabric of her skirt. "Marcia." The strict voice of her mother warns. The little girl looks up and lets go of the dress.

Right, she has to look perfect. She's going to be a princess, after all. Even empress later in life.

Her gaze wanders outside of the carriage. She looks at trees and villages as her mind wanders.

Different scenarios are playing in her head. Officially, she's supposed to meet Princess Ellen - her fiancées twin sister. Unofficially, it's the first meet-up between her and her fiancée.

Marcia thinks it's kind of weird. Why are kids getting engaged? What does it even mean to be engaged. She would ask her mother, but she's been very stressed lately.

A big white castle on top of a hill catches her attention. It's gigantic. Marcia's green eyes sparkle. Is that where she's going to live?

Once Marcia is outside of the carriage, she smiles. She has the urge to run around the big wide garden, her mother would kill her if she did that though.

"Marcia." Her mother's strict voice once again catches her attention. "We are supposed to follow after the servant." The woman looks at the man in front of her.

Marcia quickly walks to her mother. She's careful to look really lady-like while she does that. Just like her mother thought her.

The garden is even prettier. A bunch of gorgeous flowers everywhere. Marcia eyes sparkle as she looks around.

Her mother's voice catches her attention once again. "Greetings to the moon of the empire." She says as she bows. Marcia looks at the woman.

Long silky looking red hair, brilliant blue eyes, sharp facial features, and a slight smile. A gorgeous woman is standing in front of her.

Marcia is frozen in place as she stares. She doesn't even hear her mother sigh. "I apologise, your majesty, I suppose you know how children can be."

The red haired woman chuckles and raises her head in a dismissive move. "It's alright." She pauses. "The lady is nine years old correct?"

Marcia's mother shakes her head. "Eight. Marcia will be nine this summer, your majesty."

"Ah. I apologise." Says the woman. "Eight." She mumbles and covers her mouth. She looks at Marcia for a moment. Then she looks at a black haired maid. "Call Ellen and Izeck." She says. "Livia too." Adds the empress.

She looks from the servant back to Marcia. The little girl quickly fixes her posture. "Ellen and Izeck are both ten." Says the lady. "I thought it might be nice if you had another kid your age with you. Livia is a few months younger than you, so please look after her for me, alright?"

Marcia nods eagerly. Her mother clears her throat. "Yes, your majesty." Says Marcia quickly. The red-haired woman chuckles again. "No need to be so stiff. I'll be your mother-in-law in the near future, after all. Just call me mother..." She glances at Marcia's mother. "...or mother-in-law."

Marcia nods once again. This time she corrects herself all on her own. "Yes, mother-in-law." She says quickly.

The woman chuckles and turns back to Marcia's mother. Then she glances to Marcia and from her to a ginger maid. "Lead the lady to the green house. I find it hard to believe Livia would want to be outside in this hot weather."

"Yes, your majesty." Says the maid servant and turns towards Marcia. "Please follow me, my lady."

The garden is gigantic. A part of Marcia already knew that, the other is surprised at just how big.

The servant leads Marcia until they reach a big building made entirely out of glass. For some reason, you can't look inside, though.

Marcia steps inside with small steps. She walks as careful and delicate as possible. All the hours of etiquette lesson have to have some purpose after all.

The glass building is see-through from the inside. It's full of gorgeous flowers that look more expensive than she wants to even imagine. It's a comfortable temperature inside. It's not as hot as it is outside. It's almost cold.

Her attention is caught by a table sitting in the middle of the building. Three children are already sitting there. Two girls and one boy.

The blond girl immediately knows who they are. Her eyes catch rubine red ones. A girl with sliver hair looks at her. She looks proper. She's obviously from high high society.

On her right sits another girl. She has the same red hair as the empress, but instead of the blue eyes, she has red ones. She has her mothers features, though. Strict but soft at the same time. It's hidden behind a bit of baby-fat.

Across from the red-haired girl (Livia, guesses Marcia) sits a boy with silver hair. He and the first girl look like carbon copies of each other... Well, if you ignore that one of them is obviously a girl.

"Ah..!" Marcia bows quickly. "Greetings, my name is Marcia-" She's rudly interrupted by a chair being pulled forward. At some point, the sliver haired boy stood up and pulled the chair out for her. "We know who you are." He says simply.

Marcia wants to curse at him. How dare he interrupt her? She practiced that greeting so hard. "Thank you." She mumbles and bows and sits down. Izeck pushes the chair back and then sits down.

The girl to Marcias left looks at her with curious eyes. "So you'll marry my brother?" She asks and tilts her head.

Marcia nods. "Yes, as far as I'm aware."

"Livia, by the way." Says the red-haired girl. The girl across from Marcias clears her throat. Red-head - Livia - rolls her eyes. "It's nice to meet you, lady Marcia. My name is Livia."

"My name is Ellen." Says the silver haired girl. She gives her brother a look. He sighs but then looks at Marcia. "Izeck." He says simply.

Ellen sighs, displeasure is written all over her face. "I apologise. It seems neither of my siblings have had proper etiquette lessons."

Marcias giggles. "It's alright, Your Highness." She says. Ellen shakes her head. "Just Ellen is enough."

Livia keeps looking Marcia. A part of her worries if she's doing something wrong at the intense look. "No, that won't do." Says Livia and shakes her head. "You can't marry my brother."

Marcia freezes. Oh no, did she do something wrong? Did she already make one of her future sisters in law hate her?

"Livia." Says Ellen in a strict tone. "Don't even think about it."

Livia pouts. "But sister! Lady Marcia is so cute, and brother is... Well, he's Izeck." Livia says his name like it's an insult. Ellen just shakes her head.

Oh, it's just sibling bickering. It had nothing to do with Marcia.

She glances over at Izeck. He's just looking bored. Wow, he really doesn't want to be here, hm?

She understands that. She, too, would rather be home than here. Still, she has to suffer through it.

Her eyes wander to her soon to be husband. He is pretty. She doesn't think she's ever seen a prettier ten year old. He has silver hair and red eyes. His eyes look like expensive stones. She finds it hard to believe they even are actual eyes and not gem stones.

His eyes are even brighter than Ellen's. Truly, Izeck is a gorgeous boy.

Marcia almost feels ugly compared to them.

Almost.

The tea party was boring for the most part. She talked more to Ellen and Livia than the boy she was supposed to talk to.

As Marcia is brought back to her mother, she thinks that she would rather marry Livia or Ellen than Izeck. He's too quiet and boring.

"Ah, it seems your daughter is back duchess." Says the empress. A smile is still plastered onto her face. It's still formal.

Marcias mother nods. "Yes, indeed. I suppose it's time to go back now, isn't it Marcia?"

The blond girl nods. "Yes, mother."

Well, this won't work, thinks Marcia on the drive back home.

Four months pass before Marcis meets him again. It's a hunting competition, together with the imperial family of the Obelian Empire.

Marcia has spent a few summers in the empire. Her aunt comes from here after all.

It's snowing, which is rare. Marcia wanders off, not caring about the now dead animals or the killing of them. She much rather spend her time playing with the snow. So she does.

Once she's done with her snowman, she smiles. "Perfect!"

She hears a sound and turns around to look at the person behind her. Izeck stands there. His cheeks are slightly red, but that is probably because of the cold.

"Your highness!" She squeaks and bows. Izeck shakes his hand in dismissal. "No need to be so formal."

"Right... I apologise." Says Marcia.

Izeck looks at her, and Marcia looks at him. He looks pretty, and the snow fits his hair. He looks like he was meant to leave somewhere where it snows a lot.

They should move somewhere where it snows a lot, Marcia decides. Yeah, as soon as they are married, she'll make sure of that.

Izeck clears his throat. "You look very pretty today."

Marcia blushes. "You think so?" She asks. "Really?"

She receives a lot of compliments, so this isn't new. Still, he surprises her. She wasn't expecting a compliment from him.

"Did Ellen tell you to compliment me?" She asks. "Or your mother?"

The boy sighs and nods. "Yeah, my mother said I should compliment you when I see you next... Ellen did, too."

The blond girl chuckles. "I see, I expected as much." I zeck shakes his head. "But you do look pretty. The dress is... nice?"

Marcia rolls her eyes. Wow, he really knows how to do that.

"Thank you, your highness... Er, no, Izeck." Marcisa gives him a small smile. Izeck hums.

"You're making a snowman..." He says and then pauses for a moment. "Can I maybe help you?"

Marcias look from the snowman to him. It's already done, but Izeck seems to want to build some sort of relationship... Mh...

"Well, this one is already done, but we can always make him a friend, can't we?" She suggests and steps closer to Izeck. She grabs his wrist and smiles at him.

"Yeah... sure..." He says. Marcia smiles and pulls him him towards the snowman.

Maybe this is going to work after all, thinks Marcia as she watches Izeck build the snowman.

C h a r a c t e r s a r e f r o m:

Izeck&Ellen (How to get my husband on my side)/Elvia (I feel into the world of a reverse harem game)/Marcia (The perfect ending plan for the villain of a fairytale)/Livia (I became the wife of the male lead)

< Manhwa Crossover Family Tree >

< Izeck x Marcia -Masterlist >

#manwha #manwha family crossover #izeck x marcia #they are young #like really young #izeck is ten marcia is eight #arranged marriage #they do fall in love tho #ellen is in here too #so is livia #livia hates on iz just cuz she can #little sister things #(idk i'm not a younger sister and i don't have one)#(but if i was i'd hate on my older brother for sure)#ellen likes marcia #not in a romantic way #elvia is a good mom and empress #ofc she's a queen #or well empress i suppose

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