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seven-thewanderer · 10 months
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I'm boutta discuss the most randomest of things
So yall know this meme right? (I linked that version cus it's my favorite)
I feel like there should be more roles in it, because theres:
2 Do-Do's (which actually stays throughout the whole thing, but the Meow-Meow's drown it out)
1 Boom-Boom-Uh (which also stays throughout the whole thing, but Day & Night 1 drowns it out)
Day & Night 1 (from "Day & Night" to "But surely finish last, last")
1 "What? What? What?" (yes, it's 3 What?'s, not 2, the 3rd one's just more faint. However, I slightly theorize there's a secret, quieter, 4th one. However, it seems like just 3 for now)
2 Day & Night 2's (from "Cus Day & Night" to "The lonely stoner seems to free his mind at- (night)")
2 Meow-Meow's
and then of course
Free Space (the person who has no line in the song, but is usually just minding their business & doing something else, or is disappointed in the others)
so, if they wanted to include everyone, then it should start from (basing it off of the video example I linked):
0:00 - 0:14 2 Do-Do's, 1 Boom-Boom-Uh, & Free Space, and 4 extra blank spaces (since Day & Night 1 turns to Day & Night 2, and "What? What? What?" also turns into Day & Night 2)
0:14 - 0:40 Day & Night 1 and "What? What? What?" join in (the Do-Do's, Boom-Boom-Uh, and Free Space are still there)
0:40 - 1:00 Day & Night 1 and "What? What? What?" turn into Day & Night 2's, as the 2 Meow-Meow's join in (the Do-Do's, Boom-Boom-Uh, and Free Space are still there, but as stated earlier, Day & Night 1 and "What? What? What?" are no longer heard, having been replaced by 2 Day & Night 2's)
1:00 Cuts off in the middle of Day & Night 2's singing "The lonely stoner seems to free his mind at night", cutting off right before the word "night"
but anyways that's all I wanted to say about this meme/trend, as I think I've been hyperfixated on it a bit too much...
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finelinevogue · 2 years
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I can’t stop thinking about how soft drunk!harry would be🥺 I feel like he’d be so gentle yet his words would have no filter and the missus would just be in awe the entire time
omg dont im so soft for this aahhh
It was after 1 A.M. and Harry should've been home and hour ago.
He had texted you to now wait up for him around 10 P.M., so you'd gotten yourself ready for bed, had a read, before switching out your lights and drifting off to dreamland.
It was now early in the morning and you were worried about Harry's whereabouts.
He had gone out for a couple of hours, having a few drinks with some friends. He had gone to his favourite pub with them and had gotten an Uber there so that you didn't have to drive. It made you happy that he stayed local and didn't need to go into the major cities to have a good night out.
You sat up in bed, switched on the lamp and put on your glasses. Grabbing your phone you checked for any messages off Harry and you were lucky to find a few texts from him.
H💛: On my way back now. Hopefully you're too busy sleeping to read this. I love you.
The concerning matter was that Harry had sent that message at 12:40 A.M. and yet he wasn't laying next to you in your shared bed. Swinging your legs over the bed, you slipped on your slippers and took small steps out into the hallway as your eyes adjusted to the dark light.
You texted Harry back on your way down the stairs asking where he was and whether he was okay, but he didn't respond. You swiftly made your way into the kitchen, searching for the car keys in the top drawer where they were stored at night. You weren't even sure who Harry had gone out with, only that he was out at the 'Black Cat' pub.
You were moments away from calling the landlord of the pub, before he made himself present.
"You're so pretty baby."
Spinning around you were scared for a moment as to where the noise came from, or who more specifically, however when you saw Harry sat on the floor resting against the kitchen cabinets your panic subsided. You didn't even care that he was flat out drunk and still holding a beer in his hand, you were just relieved that he was home if not slightly frustrated that he hadn't even thought to mention that he was back safely.
"Harry!" You said, too excitedly, before kneeling on the floor in front of him.
You took the bottle out of his hand first, placing it on the counter above you. Next, you cradled his face in your hands to make sure that he definitely was real. You had been so scared for what might've had happened to him that you wouldn't be surprised if your brain just conjured up an imaginary Harry, right here, to calm you down.
"Y/N!" He said back just as excitedly.
His arms wrapped around your body in a weird formation, pulling you close into him for a hug. He squeezed you tight, making sure you remembered that he was the best hug giver ever. You had claimed that before and you still stood by it. Even messy drunk Harry gave great hugs.
"What're you doing on the floor?" You chuckled, giving him a kiss to his forehead because you were happy he was here.
"Didn't want to wake you up."
"You wouldn't have baby. I was worried about you." You pouted, which made Harry pout.
"Didn't mean to worry you. Just didn't want to wake you up."
"Yeah, I know. Thank you." You kissed his forehead again.
His cheeks were tinged red and his curls were falling over his face in no particular order. He looked like a cinnamon roll and in fact he was. There'd even been some test to see what bakery product you are and Harry got the cinnamon roll. You were a bagel.
"You okay?" You asked, brushing some hair out of his face.
Getting more comfortable, you switched to sit on you bum instead, sitting by his feet so that you could face Harry. He took your hands in his and you held on tightly, knowing human touch would sober him up a bit.
"Sleepy." He rested his head back against the cabinets.
"We can't go to sleep yet, honey. We have to wait for you to sober up a bit more first, otherwise you're gonna hate the hangover tomorrow."
"But then you can take care of me." He smiled, liking it when you took care of him.
"I still will, but I'd rather just not have to deal with all the gross side effects from you. I can deal with headaches though."
"So you'll scratch m'head and make me a plate of 9 hash browns tomorrow?" He requested.
"9?" You laughed, thinking it such a random number.
"Exactly 9."
"Okay. Yes bubs. I will make you 9 hash browns and scratch y'head. Maybe we can even watch a couple of episodes of Killing Eve?" You suggested.
Recently, you and Harry had been miraculously getting free schedules that matched up. Instead of taking the advantage of this time to go on holidays or travel up and down the country, you had resulted to staying in bed all day and watch countless rounds of television whilst having endless rounds of sex. It was more perfect than any abroad trip you could both come up with. Being in each others company was more than enough for you both, especially in the comfort of your own bed.
"Sounds perfect." He smiled, eyes still dropping from the tiredness catching up with his body and brain.
"Y'want to get up and get ready for bed?" You asked.
"Not yet. Just wanna sit here and talk to y'for a bit more. It's like my favourite thing ever."
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tokillamockingbird427 · 7 months
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Thought:
Elias bought a cell phone very early for himself, so he can talk to Wifey and the boys shortly before shipping out still and without wait and being surrounded by the other soldiers at the payphones, but most important so he can call home as one of the first things when he steps back onto US soil (unless it's like in the middle of the night, but then he will do it first thing in the morning) to let them know he made it back safe.
David is always very excited, when the "I'm back" call comes. All the neighbours will know because he will scream "DAD!" when he realises that mom is talking to Elias on the phone and he will do it very loud, because it has to reach Dad on the other end somehow. Logan is also excited, just a lot quieter, he might squeak sometimes (tho mostly just when he was a toddler) but he kinda vibrates and doing little stompies and grinning that Dad will come home.
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Awwww, yeah. They'd get so excited to see him they'd never settle down again if he made the call at night so it's always early evening or mornings. They always wanna do something to welcome him home like make a cake or something, and then when he gets home he's always gotta brace to catch both his boys who will run and tackle him as soon as they see him.
They won't do as much when they're older because the boys realize that they're more capable of just annihilating poor Elias if they go for a tackle but they still get super excited. Even when they hit the "Oh I'm mature, I'm cool." phase anyone would be able to tell they're hyped.
Then at the end of basic training where all the soldiers gotta wait in formation for their family to relive them (The fam has to touch them, physically. Otherwise they stay at attention.) I'd bet they're just vibrating with pure joy until Elias gets to them and then they just explode basically. Snap a hug on him like a Venus flytrap lol.
I think if he had to pick one of em to go first he'd do Hesh because he's the oldest, but also we dunno if they were in basic at the same time or if it was staggered. (One after the other.) So potentially there'd be Elias then one of the brothers there to tap the other Walker boy out of formation. Which is also very cute.
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j-ellyfish · 4 months
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This is mostly gonna be from an anime perspective but I saw your posts critiquing world stars and just wanted to say:
A big thing I appreciated about early hetalia was that the narrative that came from it (whether intentional or not). Like yeah it's about Italy's role in WW2 and how he got there but then you're also getting this story about a rich kid who was always coddled and sheltered having to fend for himself in the most turbulent period of his life.
Using real world history to make interesting characters in funny scenarios.
And then it feels like recently there haven't been long arcs to develop other characters. Usually there'd be a general event like the War of Austrian Succession or Japan's Isolation to get multiple skits (scenes?? chapters?) of characters doin stuff but now it feels like there's no structure. Last time I felt there was any kind of cohesive narrative was with Czech and Slovakia.
It sucks cuz I would love an arc about the UK bros throughout history or the dynamics of east & south asian countries throughout history but instead we get one-off cultural shock strips or micronation stuff (none of these are bad just not the core of hetalia imo)
Mhm, I agree.
Coincidentally, I was talking about this a few days ago to some friends.
I believe Hetalia's formula was carried into the early anime in an immaculate way. The first season of Axis Powers was a bit repetitive because they had to make up for the fact that South Korea was cancelled almost at last minute and so many scenes had to be deleted or more or less heavily edited. But the second season of Axis Powers and especially World Series were amazing in terms of how they used those 5 minutes, Hetalia's humor is fast-paced due to it being mostly a yonkoma, and those early anime seasons captured it in a perfect way.
Even arcs like the War of Austrian Succession, despite the source not being in yonkoma format, was still mostly crafted into quick, funny scenes with a structure similar to it, hence the pacing still felt very familiar.
Beautiful World, which I believe is peak Hetalia anime (alongside some parts of World Series), started to organize the episodes in a more "tidy" structure, but it still made the very smart decision of not dragging any arc for more than two episodes and, especially in the cases where the same theme was dragged for two eps (Gakuen Hetalia, Hetalia of the Dead and Buon San Valentino), it made perfect choices:
- it used Gakuen Hetalia, which is a bit slow and verbose, as the second and third episodes, so they felt a bit like a new introduction to the most relevant characters in the new season;
- Hetalia of the Dead was used towards the end of the season, and it focuses on no character (or thematic group of characters) in particular, so it feels quite fresh and easy to enjoy and follow along.
- Buon San Valentino, which are bonus OVAs anyway, are just blatant fanservice that 99% of fans wanted to see animated, so they just couldn't go wrong with this.
Beautful World also included two serious episodes featuring France throughout the season. And one episode focusing on the Micronations. Just one. And almost at the end of the season. Great choice, great schedule.
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Now, I do believe the pacing already started to crack a little in The World Twinkle, even though overall this season sort of kept it up decently.
The World Twinkle started to timidly show the problem that would be amplified with World Stars, both the anime and the manga.
It started the trend of multiple episodes focusing on slower paced manga arcs, this no longer being a pleasant, sporadic surprise but rather almost a rule.
It also, at least imo, seems a little unbalanced in terms of content:
EP1: Nekotalia
EP2: Focus on America, England, Germany and Italy
EP3&4: Nordics
EP5: Focus on America, England, Prussia and Germany
EP6&7: Focus on America, England, Germany and Italy
EP8: Nordics
EP9&10: Micronations
EP11: Davie (America, England)
EP12: France, Germany, England
EP13: Allies (focus on Russia), Lithuania, Hong Kong
EP14: Canada, America, England, France
Do you see what I mean..?
Not only the whole season is, for the first 9 episodes (excluding Nekotalia which was still a very weird choice as EP1), dragged to a slower pace due to the multi-episode arcs, it also chose to focus on basically the same characters for so long (reminder that 9 eps means 9 weeks).
Now compare this to how Beautiful World dealt with character appearances. I'm not making a comparison with Axis Powers or World Series because these two had like, 52 episodes each, so it isn't a fair comparison. When you have 14 episodes and focus most of them on the same handful of characters ... Tf are you doing??
There's a reason why most of Beautiful World's sources, especially for multi-episode arcs, were strips that featured a wider selection of characters. It was specifically to avoid what The World Twinkle ended up doing. I can't believe they were directed by the same people tbh, to me the quality of the overall work is quite different.
But yeah, as I said, I do believe The World Twinkle is, at least, saved by the fact that it still dragged its content from pre-World Stars comics which at least leaned less on being verbose and overly safe and educational. It wasn't great, but it wasn't bad either. Plus it gave us Davie and the 15-minutes long HetaWeen special 💕
As for the big elephant in the room, World Stars ...
Eugh. It technically does have one value over The World Twinkle, which is that at least it somewhat avoided focusing on the same 4 characters for like, 6 episodes. But still ...
Ep1 and Ep2 start off pretty alright, Ep1 especially is a stellar choice because it feels like a parallel to EP1 of Axis Powers ... Though that's pretty much how World Stars the manga starts so these kudos should go to Hima anyway 😂.
The Czechia/Slovakia episodes weren't bad at all, I agree, they felt quite cozy and a great way of introducing them in the show.
But then .... AAAAAH.
The freaking Industrial Revolution Arc. 5 consecutive damned episodes, featuring the same arc, following closely a set timeline with no time jump or anything erratic like real Hetalia style ... They freaking adapted, diligently, from Chapter 39 to Chapter 54 like a fucking homework. And the following episode?? Yes it's about Spain and Portugal, but it adapts Chapters 55~60. Lazy choices much?? 💀
It just- I don't know what the fuck they were thinking, honestly. It makes me quite mad that most of the new anime season was wasted on that. Because, as much as I'm not a big fan of the World Stars manga, they could've picked definitely better strips to animate, jump back and forward in the timeline as they pleased, just, y'know, make it Hetalia. This was such a lazy decision if you ask me💀
Damn, the rest of the World Stars anime isn't even that bad, despite HWS being HWS (so more boring on average), the lazy linearity of the contents they picked (though I shall be thankful for the SpAus interaction, I wasn't even hoping to see that animated so that was a pleasant surprise 🙏), and like, the Industrial Revolution Arc itself has some very nice moments but animating so much of it, almost 1:1, with no interruption of other stuff inbetween, felt like a crime.
I absolutely agree with the sentiment of your last statement. What HWS had been about lately, for most of it, just doesn't feel like the core of Hetalia. Sure, culture-shock strips and such have always been a thing, especially featuring Japan since, in the end, Hima's college experience in the US was one of his biggest inspirations for Hetalia, but now it mostly feels so overly tame, "educational", verbose ... A shell of what is used to be. And I'll never not believe this is more Shonen Jump's absurd doing than Hima's genuine wish.
Sorry if this got a bit long, I also probably went off topic and started rambling, I can't shut up lol/// I hope you don't mind too much 🙏💗
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theinstagrahame · 9 months
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Time again for the Crowdfunding Haul post!
(And I guess another amateurish product photo shoot)
This one's feels slightly different because this is all stuff I pre-ordered, crowdfunded, or otherwise got prior to being laid off at the end of June (so it'd be real nice if people bought some games from me). Coincidentally a dozen or so of them happened to come to completion around June-July of 2023, some of them.
Here's what came in: Top row: Monster of the Week: Codex of Worlds, Runecairn Bestiary, CBR+PNK, Miru and Miru II (or MIIRU)
Middle row: Ritual: A Folk Horror Game, Plant Girl Game, and A Dungeon Game
Bottom row: Sleeping Heart of the Garden, Hard Wired Island: Tales from L5, Broken Heart of the Castle, the Moss Mother's Maze (for a Dungeon Game), and Null
Why I'm hyped for these:
Monster of the Week: Codex of Worlds: MotW is a hugely influential game, but also it is a lot of fun. So it's really hard to pass up an expansion. I've also been noticing a trend of bringing Forged in the Dark-style group sheets to PbtA games, which I think is an interesting one.
Runecairn Bestiary: Who doesn't love a good monster manual? Runecairn is a beautiful game, and the marketing for the bestiary supplement worked on me. Incredible art, stats for monsters. One of the things I've felt is missing from some solo games is a good sense of monsters you can encounter, and this fills that gap nicely.
Miru and Miru II: I was intrigued by Miru and picked up a copy on Itch. I haven't read it yet, but the premise and the art definitely grabbed me. I was a little sad that I'd missed the initial print run, so when there was a crowdfunder for a reprint *and* a sequel, how could I not?
Ritual: A Folk Horror Game: World Champ Game Co is one of several Indie designers that never miss. It also comes with a small deck of ritual cards with really visceral and cool images that I think adds a ton to the game. That said, I am also a huge sucker for limited edition print runs... So when I saw there may only be a handful of these available, well, I jumped.
Plant Girl Game: I learned about this one on @partyofonepod, and was so intrigued by the game, and the creator, and the world that it proposed that I had to know more. It's a game focused on family, on community, and on peaceful resolutions to small-town problems. So it's definitely an odd one out on this list, but the ways in which it's different are also one of the reasons I so love TTRPGs.
A Dungeon Game and the Moss Mother's Maze: I followed the evolution of Bissette's A Dragon Game into A Dungeon Game on Twitter, from shitpost to full-fledged game. It was really fun to watch, and to skim the Designer's Commentary on the original ADG. So, when I heard there'd be an adventure module (aaaand again a limited print run for the main game...) I leapt on it as fast as my email could carry me.
Sleeping Heart of the Garden and Broken Heart of the Castle: I've followed a few of the creators involved in this project on Twitter for a while, and generally was intrigued to see what they could do with a system-agnostic adventure. I was surprised by the size when they arrived, because you get to expect the half-page zine format. But I think these books are beautiful and I can't wait to explore them.
Hard Wired Island: Tales from L5: HWI is a stunning piece of TTRPG content, and I've been wanting to dig into the world further. So, a collection of short adventures? Hell yeah! It even came with a really catchy little soundtrack, the final track for which I think about all the time when considering Cyberpunk content...
Null: Everything Spencer Campbell puts out just shreds. I did nearly sleep on Null, but I was intrigued by the recent trend of Play-to-Lose games that I've seen coming out lately. There is something kind of powerful about going into a game knowing your character won't come out, which I think allows you to make different decisions. I was interested to see where this game fit into Campbell's catalog, as well as into my own play style.
CBR+PNK: Been getting into Forged in the Dark stuff lately. I also nearly let this one pass me by, when I'd heard that it was aimed at one-shot games. But, I was still intrigued to see what could be done with Cyberpunk in the FitD framework (and besides, maybe there's a way an enterprising designer could campaigns in there...). I was glad I picked it up, because I started playing games with some friends over Discord, and I was able to pitch this. We've been enjoying it. It's even serving really well as a prequel to the Beam Saber campaign we're planning (Also really convenient that it arrived before we finished the one-shot). Besides, the physical edition did turn out really nicely:
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Bonus game-related stuff:
I picked up Inhuman Conditions (right) because I'd heard it on Friends at the Table. It seems like an extremely fun game, but also the Sangfielle campaign episode(s) where they play it are ones that I think about a lot. Also, one of the things I love about FatT is their ability to wield the power of play to do incredibly powerful things.
The Tears of the Kingdom Strategy Guide I kinda wanted less because I was stuck or wanted tips on playing TotK, but because the bundle I got for my Switch and Breath of the Wild came with one, and I kinda wanted to put both on the shelf. Zelda has been one of those series that I've always had throughout my life, so I've got a lot of emotional investment. The two strategy guides are beautiful, and I will probably end up skimming through it when I've gotten through the main game.
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magnum-caelum · 6 months
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this got so much longer than intended
anyways::: @kaetits @strawberry-milkbun <33
this is when theyre first years in the technical achool
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Antoru had always been in the shadow of her brother. For her, it was just a fact of life.
Satoru was Satoru, the Gojo prodigy, the first in centuries to be born with both Limitless and Six Eyes.
And Antoru? Well, she was Antoru. Satoru's little sister. The Gojo daughter that wasn't a born genius.
But she never really thought herself as jealous of Satoru. Jealousy was poison. To be jealous of a power she could never have would only devour her.
But right now? She wishes more than anything that she had his abilities. That maybe Six Eyes just lay dormant within her, waiting for the right time to reveal itself.
Because this was a curse unlike anything she'd ever encountered. Its presence oozes, hangs heavy in the air like oil. The hallways are rank with its aura.
Antoru thought it might be bad, but not this bad. The high school was somewhat infamous for its bullying. Her and Kokisachi had been sent to scout the area and make sure things were alright: there'd been rumors of strange things happening in the area.
Apparently, the situation was a million times worse than whatever meager intel had been collected.
Shit.
She couldn't leave now. It'd take at least a week for a team to be organized and sent back here. By then, the threat would've amplified.
This was already at least an A-grade threat.
"This is bad," Kokisachi whispers, echoing the thought.
"Just a little," Antoru agrees.
They share a glance and nod, the pair immediately sprinting to the roof. If there was to be a fight, outside would be a better setting than inside.
"Maybe we sho-"
"Nope," Antoru counters, surprised the suggestion to go back and come back with reinforcements hadn't come sooner. "We're here now. We're capable. Let's take care of this."
Kokisachi laughs nervously but doesn't fight her. "Hell yeah. We got this."
The night air is dull and sticky, tainted by the curse. A warbling shakes the air and the two fall into practiced formation.
The curse is a mass of... black and gray. It emits from within a moaning scream, and its warbles sound like mocking laughter.
"'Sachi?" Antoru hisses. Her grip on the cursed weapon tightens. Maki had let her borrow it for this mission: a pair of long nunchucks with bladed tips.
Kokisachi's already tossing a pair of ten-sided die on the ground. They land, their total a mere seven before they poof back into nothing. Kokisachi swears under her breath.
"Alright," Kokisachi presses through her teeth, "All you, 'Toru. I'll back you up."
The curse is closer now.
"Start going down," Antoru calls. She sets her stance. "If I have to use Red, I don't want you around."
The other presses her lips together but doesn't argue, sprinting back down.
At the sudden movement, the curse lunges forwards with a speed that shouldn't be possible for its size.
Antoru barely get a choked gasp out before hitting it with her weapon. The curse staggers, but it doesn't seem phased.
Shit. Shit. Shit. Where was Satoru when you needed him?
It warbles again and charges. Antoru dives out of the way, skirting around a pile of boxes to avoid it.
Her domain expansion? Too risky to use now. Besides, her mastery over it was lackluster at best.
Red? Antoru glances over the side of the building. No Kokisachi yet. She'd have to wait.
In the split second of distraction, the curse lunges again, wrapping a gooey tendril around Antoru's arm.
Biting back a scream, she cuts the curse, leaping backwards.
Hell, she'd give Kokisachi another thirty seconds to get out of the damn building.
One.
The curse warbles and grows in size, clearly growing agitated.
Five.
Antoru exchanges blows with the curse. She blocks and dodges when she can, trying to save energy.
Twenty.
The roof is a mess. Antoru pants, panic starting to ignite in her. Maybe it was a bad idea to send Kokisachi down. Maybe she was right, maybe they should've retreated and returned later.
But her thoughts are interrupted by Kokisachi's voice.
"Antoru! Go crazy!"
Without missing a beat, she throws the nunchucks at the curse as hard as she can to slow it down.
Then she clasps her hands together and takes a deep breath.
Focusing the cursed energy between her hands, she draws them apart.
In her state of adrenaline, the energy picks up faster than usual, crackling and pulsing between her palms.
"Cursed Technique Reversal," she whispers. She hesitates, then pulls the energy back as much as she dares, the Red swirling dangerously. Too much and she might end up wrecking more than she has to. "Red."
And the energy releases. All around her, wind whips. The curse splatters into nothing, the building she stands on obliterates without complaint, the earth gouges. Everything repels away from the point between Antoru's hands.
There's a split second of sheer nothing, a stomach-dropping feeling of being sucked into the void where her Red had created a pure vacuum, then she falls.
Shit. Can't catch a break today, can I?
She manages to twist herself in midair among the falling debris.
"Red!" she screams again, this time trying to channel just a little bit of the cursed energy into the technique. Antoru aims it at the ground: maybe it'll slow her fall.
Instead, the force of the blast launches her sideways, sending her flying over the school's track and field, which lay a good ways away from the main building.
So damn embarrassing.
"Red!" she tries again. Please, pleaseeeee don't let me fall to my death after my first encounter with a higher-grade curse.
This time, she's high up enough for it to slow her descent to the ground.
Still, Antoru lands hard in the middle of the field, turf filling her mouth.
She rolls herself onto her back, trying to draw back into her lungs where the wind had been knocked out of her.
"Good job, Gojo Antoru," she compliments herself sarcastically. She drives the base of her palm into her forehead. "You just obliterated an entire fucking high school."
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It's twenty minutes before Kokisachi makes it back to the remains of the school, Antoru's blast had knocked her back who-knows-how-far.
Staring at the crater in the ground where a large public school had once been, Kokisachi shakes her head, unable to stop an amused smile from forming on her lips.
"Gojo Antoru," she breathes disbelievingly. "What a demon."
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yarnacle · 2 months
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If Chanse and Trevor get put together for a Try Not to Win, do you think it would be the most hilarious or most awkward interaction they'll have so far?
anon i cant tell you how little idea i have LMAO they are but silly guys on my screen who i giggle and kick my feet over because i think their dynamics mesh
i think itd be funny js bc the video idea is and there'd be other ppl to buffer if the vibe gets too janky but idk !! if they do have irl issues i doubt that theyll try to play on that in the video and it might be more awkward because there's less banter going on.
also !!! in my opinion !!!! i think chanse has more fun in other video formats/series/wtv the fuck theyre called !! i watched the try not to win w/ him,,,,idk a time ago LMAO so i might be entirely wrong but. yeah !! imo chanse doesnt vibe that well w/ try not to win so. /shrug idk
ty for hopping by and letting some brainworms leak out anon but i have no idea !!
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dr3amofagame · 4 months
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i know this is a kinda cursed question but what would be the birdhouse au guys in omegaverse?
tbh i don't have as exciting of an answer for you as you'd probably like bc the premise of the AU hangs so heavily on the idea of these guys being alternate versions of each other that having them have different secondary genders doesn't reeeeally make that much sense, but hey why not here's a few hypotheticals under the cut:
the most obvious scenarios in this case are sams all alphas + dreams all omegas, and sams all omegas + dreams all alphas in terms of like, traditionally how omegaverse ship content tends to pan out. so we'll start from here. regardless of who's who, the uh Biological Compatibility, let's say, is a draw and repellant to both the dreams and the sams, depending on who and when and in what context. j!Dream is absolutely down to babytrap himself into more privileges, especially if he's capable of becoming pregnant. c!Dream is deathly afraid of that same possibility. j!Sam is uhhh well. He's Got Feelings about the whole idea of being ~meant to be~ biologically and also afraid that it'll be used against him through Dream's Manipulations (whether he's an alpha or omega, in this scenario)--depending on the scenario, he's definitely ping-ponging between putting Way too much emphasis on the secondary sex thing or completely ignoring its existence. ummm ff!Sam kindaaa dgaf besides how it all justifies stuff sexually like he's just horny that's it.
if either sam or dream are betas, then that whole like "inherent compatibility" thing wouldn't exist and affect their dynamics. if the sams were betas, they'd definitely like appreciate the relative detachment biologically, especially when compared to ruts/heats where dream loses control while sam gets to keep it. if the dreams are betas, then sam is probably keeping them pretty far away from ruts/heats just bc they don't like the feeling of being vulnerable like that in front of dream.
if we have alpha/alpha or omega/omega, i kinda almost feel like there'd be a point of proving how dream is "evil" because he's...a worse alpha or omega? not from a sexual standpoint, but like, just in general. the similarities are kinda discomfiting to sam and sam is making a general effort to put some distance there. dream is a bad alpha bc he's overly domineering and doesn't give a crap about his pack, dream is a bad omega because he's not nurturing enough and too assertive or whatever stupid excuse etc. and beta/beta is just kinda normal ig.
i'm boring, i feel like there's stuff that could technically be explored in all these scenarios but alpha sams + omega dreams kinda works best for the format and characterizations. (for the record, i'm not talking abt coparents here bc that's not my turf, though i'm 90% sure that theyd both be alphas? ik angela has said pream alpha before.) w/ mayfair specifically, a lot of what makes it go down the way it does is j!awesamdream kinda just kinda diving headfirst into craziness just bc nothing's there to stop them, and i feel like being enabled biologically fits much better for their whole Progression compared to if biology were to work against their whole dynamic. pre-birdhouse, j!sam is seeing mayfair as the Ultimate Victory, and like. him and dream and a perfect house, his prisoner, his omega, whatever? combined with the ways that four square would deeefinitely touch on this in an omegaverse AU, it's really the perfect excuse for him (and dream) to let biology run its course and uh, take over. it's the perfect excuse for him to see dream as his and the perfect excuse for them to just, go fucking nuts with it. so they go fucking nuts with it.
j!dream would prefer being an omega like for the record. like i mean there are a whole host of reasons but also like bc he's a little dumbass a huge one is literally just convenience. yeah it's not hard to carry lube around everywhere but it's the principle of the matter you know. c!dream, on the other hand, is even more high-strung and anxious than he is in canon bc of this whole deal nuh uh do not pass go do not collect $200 GET HIM OUT OF HERE [rattles the bars of his cage] etc. heats would be. an especially sore spot--a point of abject terror before he gets involved with anyone and kinda just awful when he does join the hell polycule; sam isn't cruel during them, but that doesn't really make the lack of control feel better. especially when his sync up with j!dream. sam...probably isn't going to get him suppressants tho 😭also jmah!duo are too stupid to be biologically compatible the chances of j!dream getting knocked up and dying are astronomically high whenever it's possible
in terms of like, allowing for a little more variability between the sams and the dreams, i'd say that p!dream as stated earlier would likely be an alpha. c!dream and j!dream have to be the same it's part of the premise for their universes that's not gonna change, omega for them and alpha for j!sam again for the reasons outlined above yes i'm boring. i can totally see ff!sam as either a beta or an omega. omega ff!sam is really awful in a kinda funny way kenjo would probably support the "let ff!sam have a baby" agenda but i think all of the rest of us are against his parenting. p!sam is...im pretty sure he's an alpha but im not sure that's angela's turf. there's something a little funny to me personally with birdhouse involving alpha trans guy pream + omegas cis guys c/jream i wont lie like i think theyd kinda make a joke or two about that.
just for like, very general non-secondary gender specific notes? pheremone stuff allows for another means of communication that doesn't easily allow for lying, for better and for worse. there's a lot of fear in this house. it probably lingers in the corners. the basement reeks of it. it makes it a little more obvious too when someone's had sex, which i mean, it's not like they were subtle before but yknow. mating/bonds kinda work differently i think depending on how people's omegaverse rules work But i think j!sam in general hesitates on initating mating bonds like, for awhile. ff!sam has no desire to be mated to either j! or c!dream; they're prisoners. not mates. i actually do like the idea of er j!sam ending up claiming j!dream during a very specific incident, especially when the creation of a bond incorporates like a level of greater sensitivity? or whatever to the other's emotions, or like outright emotional telepathy in some versions. j!sam can't admit the drive behind why he did what he did, especially in the scenario in which he does it, but also the added connection to j!dream is. somewhat intoxicating. uhh h what else exists in omegaverse...the added biological component to the conditioning for j!Dream is. errrr. bad. really bad. mayfair probably gets cranked up to a higher intensity than it already is which is insane considering mayfair (gestures vaguely again at the whole, theyre too stupid to be biologically compatible thing, technically j!sam is probably careful enough to remember birth control consistently but i dont trust this mans for my life). no clue what theyd smell like for the damn record. maybe cinnamon, for c/jream. either like cinnamon/vanilla/warm spice-y or something like, clean and fresh and very faintly floral, mostly like grass. shrug. ummmm idk idk .. sam would fucking love having an alpha voice holee fuck this guy was already talking to dream with a bad dog voice in the prison break. tho he basically like engineers that without omegaverse in jmah already bc he's a freak. the ways theyd work with and against their instincts is kinda interesting? anyway yea that's it
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A/N: still no poll privileges, so you know the drill! This time, including Hiromi!
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"You have to tell your mum, Haru."
Haru cradled her phone between her shoulder and ear and valiantly attempted to fill out the form before her. "I really don't, Hiromi."
"You're getting married!"
"Only briefly," Haru protested. "It's like, if I were getting a tattoo I'd tell her, but I wouldn't bother with a temporary one." There was a pause. "Okay, bad analogy–"
"Yeah, 'cause you still haven't told her about the tattoo either–"
"Well then, I'm staying consistent," Haru retorted.
"Your mum's gonna be pissed when she hears you got married and didn't invite her."
"By the time she hears about it, I'll already be filing the divorce papers," Haru replied. "Anyway, even if I told her now, there'd be no way she'd make it in time."
There was a pause.
"Haru," Hiromi asked, "where exactly are you?"
"...I may be in whatever passes for a register office in the Cat Kingdom."
"Haru!"
"I mean, I say that, but it's really more of a building offshooting the palace. Hang on." Haru popped her head into the reception room. "Hey, what are all the asterisks doing beside these boxes?"
"Those are optional but recommended places you sign," the receptionist droned, sounding very much as if this was a repeated conversation. "It means you agree to the multiple reasons for divorce as valid. Bigamy. Unfaithful partner. Annulment. Etc." The Cat fixed her with a knowing look. "Just in case."
"Right. Okay." Haru returned to the desk and began the long list of signatures.
"I think you've been in the Cat Kingdom too long," Hiromi said. "Their insanity is rubbing off on you."
"You've known me since we were kids, Hiromi. I had a few marbles missing even before I moved."
"This is a special kind of insanity. I mean, what do you even think is going to happen?"
"Well, hopefully I can avoid returning to the Human World."
Hiromi's tirade faltered. "Are you using your real name?"
Haru snorted. "What other choices do I have?"
"Yeah, but if they hear about it–"
"They already know I'm in the Cat Kingdom, Hiromi. Hey, what's the Cat hieroglyphic with the three black birds mean?"
"Are they flying in formation?"
"Yeah."
"Murder. Haru, what are you reading?"
"In the event of a spouse murdering their partner, any proceedings to the remaining spouse through last will and testaments are invalid," Haru read aloud. "Honestly, I feel like if I'm caught murdering Baron, I'll have some more pressing issues at hand."
"That's assuming he doesn't murder you first."
"Thanks."
"No offence, Haru, but it's not as if you've had the best of luck judging guys–"
"Machida doesn't count," Haru said immediately.
"The dude was a lying toerag—"
"Who never murdered anybody. So I have a clean bill of non-murderers when it comes to my dating history. Anyway," she continued, before Hiromi could point out what Haru's dating history did have, "I'm not going alone. Muta's sticking around to make sure I don't get my liver stolen, or something."
"Oh great. The Cat with the mysterious lack of past is going to be your bodyguard." Hiromi hesitated. "Are you alone," she asked abruptly, as if the thought had only just occurred to her, "or are they all listening in to this conversation?"
"It's just me–"
"Quick, if they're listening in, say 'rhubarb'!"
Haru snorted. "It's just me, Hiromi. Baron had to detour off somewhere first, and Muta refuses to come anywhere near the palace."
"I told you, that Cat has some sort of history–"
"Sure, but he's still coming with me to make sure all my organs stay intact," Haru replied. "Muta's harmless."
"And the guy you're marrying for visa benefits?"
Haru snorted again. "I once watched him get a cape stuck in a revolving door. I think I'll be just fine."
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Episode 6: we're bacon out here!
The intro plays, it is a Introduction to all 8 of the hosts of this show: Zoey, Louis, Francis, Bill, Ellis, Nick, Rochelle and Coach.
Then the logo appears:
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The logo dissipates as pre-recorded clapping plays. Today they are outside, they aren't wearing their usual outfits but instead wearing much more casual and light clothing.
Louis is holding the camera in his hand, the image is a selfie like format.
Louis: Welcome to 8 in the kitchen! The show were we make food and may regret it later! Today we aren't in the kitchen because government officials are working with the Amazonians in destroying the Dark Fruit plant.
The camera is turned around to the building that the hosts work in, it's a normal brick building with a sign that says 'Valve networks'. it's covered in ice, dead vines and a combination of scientists, government officials and clean up crews from both the American and Amazonian governments.
Louis: It's going to take awhile and we don't want to leave you all waiting so we're making our food outside today!
Louis turns the camera back to revel that everyone is sweating.
Louis: In the biggest heatwave of the century.... Yeah... I'll get someone to edit the current temperature in post recording.
The screen shows the current temperature in the middle of the screen.
115 degrees Fahrenheit
and in small text underneath:
46 degrees Celsius for everyone else.
Louis: Today Zoey has the chef hat, what are we making Zoey?
The camera pans to Zoey, who is standing next to Rochelle under an umbrella Nick is holding.
Zoey: What I was originally going to make needed electricity. and the recipe itself needs some reviewing.
Ellis's voice can be heard from off screen.
Ellis: Did it not taste good?
Zoey: Let's just say it'll be world shattering when I perfect it.
The screen glitches at the words 'world shattering'.
Nick: Well that was ominous.
Louis: Did the ground just shake a bit?
Bill: You're just overheating son.
Louis: Ok... So what are we making today?
Zoey: You see this sidewalk?
Louis: Yeah?
Zoey pulls out some bacon and eggs.
Rochelle: Please tell me we're not...
Zoey: We are!
Zoey puts some oil on the sidewalk and cracks an egg onto it.
Zoey: It's so hot we're cooking eggs on a side walk!
Air horns sound effects are heard.
Nick: That's great and all, but what's the hook here? Unless we're doing an ASMR of us over heating-
Ellis: I mean there'd probably be an audience for that nowadays.
Nick: -I don't see the point.
Zoey: We are answering the questions of random people on the internet!
Nick: That works.
Zoey: The question itself will be shown onscreen when we answer them, to make it easier for anyone hard of hearing.
The camera is set up in a tripod under an umbrella. Everyone sits under some more beach umbrellas set up next to the sidewalk. The eggs and bacon are sizzling nicely.
Zoey: Ok, first ask is:
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Coach: Ah, I had some good times with those kids. I still visit them sometimes. When I was still in the school I'd get everyone and go to burger tank, but now I know how to cook they ask me to make them stuff from the show. It's nice. If your watching, Hi kids!
Zoey: Ok, next question.
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Nick: Well-
Francis: You sure you want to ask the guy with the ex-wife for dating advice?
Nick: This is my question Francis.
Francis: Just saying.
Nick: Well at least I've gotten married.
Francis shrugs as if to say fair enough.
Nick: Usually, I'd learn what their favourite food was and give them that. But in my humble-
Bill: Humble? that's a laugh.
Nick: -opinion, It's hard to go wrong with a good roast.
Zoey: alright then, next one...
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Coach: Wouldn't you like to know.
Zoey: Your not answering this are you?
Coach: Nope~
Zoey: Figurers, you've already driven Rochelle insane trying to figure it out.
Rochelle: How did you mange to hide EVERY SINGLE DOCUMENT related to you in the school system!? I couldn't even find your resume!
Coach smiles but says nothing.
Zoey: Anyways.... Next one:
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Nick: Oh god why would you ask him that.
Francis: Oh come on! His stories are hilarious!
Ellis: Thanks man.
Nick: I don't care, it'll take the up the whole episode! Move on the the next question.
Zoey:
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Bill: Sounds like we don't have a choice.
Nick: How about the next one?
Zoey:
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Nick: God danm it.
Zoey: Nick, I've got like 50 more of these. This is the most asked question period. We have to do this at least once.
Nick: FINE, just... just chose a short one.
Ellis: Oh man. Food experiments? I've got a great one for that. This one time, My buddy Keith wanted to know what you had to do to make sugar expire. So first we put it into the oven, but that just made it melt, we tried a bunch of other things like feeding it to a furby then cutting it open, but then Keith had the BEST idea.
Nick: Ok, how's this one going to devolve?
Ellis: He remembered that military camp that he got bombed at and decided that we should see what bombs would do!
Nick: and there it is.
Ellis: So we snuck into the base and placed the sugar in the middle of the field and waited. So we're watching from a distance with a camera to record this masterpiece, when who should come but two solders. We thought that they'd call someone about it but you know what they did?
Rochelle: What?
Ellis: Sons of bicthes begin eaten it! So we run in and take the sugar back, cause that's our sugar experiment and the only people that's gonna eat it is us. But the soldiers then get on our backs 'bout "Entering a restricted area"
Coach: Maybe they had a point.
Ellis: Please, everyone my age and under has snuck in there at one point. anyways not much interesting stuff happened after that, we got chased. But we got out ok. Never did see the bombs drop though.... You think our boss would fund that?
Bill: Son... I want to say no but.... Just don't.
Ellis looks a bit disappointed. But says:
Ellis: Ok.
Zoey: Next question:
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Rochelle: Oh that's a hard one! I love both of them, but I think I'll go with savoury. There's so many different flavours and recipes that can come from it, variety is the spice of life after all. Its also less like it give you health problems so there's that.
Louis: The last bit really depends on what your eating though. Like, and apple is a lot better for you then deep fried chicken.
Rochelle: That's true. But who actually puts fruit in the sweet category?
Zoey: I put it in the breakfast category.
Louis: Zoey, we're roommates. I've seen you eat peanut butter by itself for breakfast.
Bill: Wait you do what?
Zoey: NEXT QUESTION!
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Francis: Where do I begin?!
Rochelle: Oh boy.
Francis: There's wasting food, calling salt a spice, buying an air fryer.
Rochelle: I still don't understand your hatred of that thing in particular.
Francis: The only reason people buy it is to say that they are better and richer then everyone else! But that's not the worse thing.
Nick: Ok, I'll bite. What's the worse thing?
Francis: Cross contamination.
The hosts all shudder.
Coach: I'm with you Francis, that's the worst.
Francis: I know right? Just wash the knife! Or get a new one! It's not that hard.
Zoey: Next question
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Louis: To put it simply, lot a things going right and something going wildly wrong. These episodes, like any show, take a lot of team work and effort to put together. They hinge on everyone doing their job well, luckily we have a very talented team working with us.
A blushing emoji appears for a few seconds.
Louis: But, the fun in this show is the chaos of what we try to do, that's why it doesn't matter if we fail. Not to us anyway. If we have fun doing it, and if we are sometimes we're attacked by our food.-
Coach: That was one time!
Zoey: It was a week ago.
Louis: -That's what people are looking for, and that's what we'll do.
Zoey: With that heart warming answer, here's a morbid, and hard to read, question.
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Bill: I don't why you asked for zombies specifically, that's more Zoey's field, but it'd really depend on what doesn't get toppled when the government goes down. Any thing fresh with expire within a week, and cans don't last as long as you think without proper storage. Can you make something taste good? Yes, you'd have to kill and scavenge but you could do it. Will it taste like anything pre-apocalypse? No.
Louis: Man, that was weird question.
Rochelle: I mean with the current political climate....
Louis: But why zombies?
Ellis: It's a popular genre.
Zoey: Umm....
Nick: What's the next question?
Zoey:
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Zoey: What's a sp-
The phone Zoey is holding starting giving off sparks and she drops it. The camera feed begins to distort, showing what seems to be a city on fire, but stops when the phone hits the floor.
Rochelle: What was that?!
Coach: That's it! The heat got to the phone and is getting to us, everyone inside now!
Leaving the phone, everyone begins to pack up. Ellis picks up the phone and the feed cuts out. The feed returns to show everyone in-doors. it looks to be a decently sized house with an AC. Zoey and Coach are laying on the couch, with Coach asleep. Bill is siting at the table behind the couch playing a card game with Nick and Francis. Ellis can't be seen in the shot but fridge noises can be heard off screen.
Louis is holding the camera in his hand. The symbols in the bottom right corner reveal that they are now using a proper house hold camera instead of a iPhone.
Louis: Ok, we are now inside Coach's house. Sorry that we couldn't do more, but we did get in at least one question each so I hope you enjoyed it anyway. And for those who are worried about the bacon and eggs-
Louis winces, but keeps quiet to not wake Coach.
Louis: Keith ate it off the ground when he picked us up... We'll have a normal episode next time if you can call our episodes that. Bye from everyone and we'll see you next time.
The theme song plays and the credits roll. The end credits seen shows the place where the hosts where taking questions. It is a peaceful scene with trees, a lake and a building peaking out over the treeline. Suddenly, the image shakes and distorts. The imprint of 8 shadowy figures appears as they huddle together in what looks to be fear. Then the distortion stops, in the same second that it appears. Along with the shadows.
The scene remains peaceful for the rest of the run.
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i've been thinking about the idea of lesser daedra also being inherently bound to abstract concepts like the princes are to their spheres. this is pretty simple and might even be kind of intended with some of the "species" (like hungers and seekers) but i was considering just extending it to all daedra since then there'd be some justification to the whole "sacrificing part of yourself to make mundus" - they'd be forsaking their own immortality to be freed from being limited by (1/3)
specific concepts. without that i just feel like there is no real justification to being a human instead of say, a dremora? since canon dremoras are just like normal guys but fully immortal and with no real disavantages if compared to humans beyond being usually generic enemy npcs (lol). kinda similar to that pathfinder demon queen that wanted to become a (non-demonic) god specifically so she wouldn't be limited to the whole "always chaotic evil" thing but in a general sense yk. (2/3)
also ties in with the "daedra cant create, only replicate" lore that i honestly think was discarded? but was also cool since idk there SHOULD be some sort of reason for the whole aedric sacrifice for mundus to make sense? if daedra have everything that mortals have plus full immortality then idk what lorkhan and other aedric spirits were trying to achieve beyond just. dying lol. what do you think (3/3)
now that i've sent those asks i've realized that i haven't properly illustrated what that'd look like but it'd be kinda like how some dnd outsiders are like representations of alignments and such? like how a demon is a representation of chaotic evil and couldn't really even attempt to be anything else since they ARE that concept. a daedric seeker would BE the seeking of knowledge itself and couldn't possibly have some sort of existence that isn't defined by that. a hunger IS hunger etc. (1/2)
and like yeah unlike daedra mortals live and die quickly and once we die thats it etc but we aren't really limited in that sort of way (kind of? since TES kinda has some sort of pre-defined fate for everyone but "prisoners" but im willing to ignore that since i dont care). this would be some sort of justification for just throwing eternity itself away to become a mortal in mundus. the freedom for self definition and the possibility of change. it'd be cool (2/2)
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Formatting my answer down here to make things clearer to read. I've been thinking about this topic recently too! I'm happy to announce the 'Daedra can't create only replicate' plays a somewhat large part in ESO, so it's definitely on dev's minds. Lower Daedra (the talking ones at least) seem to experience time at the same-ish relative velocity as mortals, so their perception of time is comparable to ours. With that, my rationalization of Lorkhan's Endeavour comes as something like this:
Imagine living forever. You have endless time to do anything you want. Similarly, everyone around you is immortal. Even with diversifying your experiences, eventually, everything is going to become repetitive and dull. Infinite time, finite experiences available to you. Relationships are lackluster, there’s no biological urge, eventually you’ll likely drift apart. The Dremora have clans, but it’s based on following ideals like glory and war. With no sense of an ‘end’ many experiences won’t carry the weight they would have to us. There’s no perceived sense of significance within this time span. Anything you work towards, to your time frame, you’ll watch crumble in an instant, over and over.
How you view this depends on the type of person you are. If you live in the moment and spontaneously, or you greatly fear death and the destruction of your ego, you’re daedric. If you’re a dreamer and lay out future plans, or have a strong sense of doing things to pass something on to the next generation, you may not find this fulfilling enough, and you hear Lorkhan out. I think your thoughts on sphere also really play a role in this, there isn’t much wiggle room to choose to define yourself, or create anything beyond yourself within a box. Ultimately I think that was his plan, end this sort of unchanging hierarchical stasis everyone had locked themselves into, and create things that could create things.
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Shinji´s bankai is not banned. That comes from an early fan translation. The official release doesnt say that its banned.
You're right, it was Kuruyashiki's Bankai that was banned. Doesn't change much though. Funny part is Shinji affirms the argument himself in dialogue:
“I really was just beat when it came to the war with the Quincies.” Hirako’s voice echoed and resounded within the Kyogoku’s stretch of rocks. “Since they sprang up in the Seireitei all of a sudden and sent everything into chaos… If they had just created a defined battle formation outside of the walls, I would have been able to clean up most of them by myself.”
So yeah, Ryūken for some wholly unknown reason deprived the Gotei 13 of the ability to nuke Wandenreich forces and eliminate most of them in a first strike, preventing the arc from even really happening. (Yamamoto and potentially Shunsui could also have done this instead of Shinji.)
This is weird since 1. Yhwach killed Ryūken's wife Kanae, 2. Yhwach presumably absorbed Kanae, Masaki, and Ryūken's mom's souls and would've presumably absorbed Ryūken's in death, 3. Yhwach's plan essentially involved everyone dying, and 4. even if we (for no reason) assume good faith by Yhwach and that (3) isn't true, there'd probably be no need for doctors in a world without life and death.
Then again, Ryūken also doesn't show up to fight Aizen when Aizen's plan involves killing Ryūken, killing most or all of Ryūken's staff, killing most or all of Ryūken's patients, and destroying Ryūken's hospital and life's work, which is doubly weird when Ryūken has never seen Kyōka Suigetsu and him doing Letzt Stil in Soul Society would likely be vastly more powerful than even Uryū's example.
So Ryūken could've prevented the entire plot of Bleach the manga as we know it, by just going to Soul Society himself to snipe down Aizen before he powered up, and then providing Kisuke with the means to destroy Wandenreich. This also would've prevented CFYOW (no Gremmy brain to put in Hikone), and NBFH (no dead Captain ceremony). Only maybe SAFWY would've still happened, but probably not even remotely as in the books.
I don't think this really says all that much about his character so much as Kubo did not think about Ryūken or care about him at all. It's still basically How Not To Write Your Shōnen 101.
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Episode 57 Transcript: Deanpilled Samcel
[intro guitar music]
G: Hello, my name is Grey.
C: And my name is Crystal.
G: And this is Busty Asian Beauties, a Supernatural commentary podcast where I, someone who has seen this show several times…
C: And I, someone who only knows about the show through social media, discuss every single episode of Supernatural from start to finish. Also, we are both Asian.
G: Both Asian! For today's episode, we will be discussing Season 3, Episode 13: “Ghostfacers,” written by Ben Edlund, directed by Phil Sgriccia.
C: It sure is.
G: This was aired on April 24, 2008, and if I'm not mistaken, our last episode was aired...
C: February 21.
G: February. Yeah. So like, there's quite a gap. And is that, you know, because of the writer’s strike?
C: Yeah, that is because of the writer's strike.
G: Yeah. So they actually reference the writer’s strike in this episode.
C: They do!
G: In a "those pesky writers!" kind of way.
C: Yeah.
G: And, okay. Before we start, I want to ask what you thought of this episode. Like, did you think it was funny?
C: Did I think it was funny.
G: I thought it was pretty funny! [laughs]
C: It was pretty funny. There were parts that were funny. I don't think they were like, laugh out loud funny, but like, I was amused at certain points.
G: I personally think it's quite funny- like I did laugh at certain points, and the nature of the show, of like the Ghostfacers show being like, as Sam put it and the end, like, "Wow! You really gave honor to his death by being so fucking exploitative of it." [C laughs] Like, that's the whole point of the Ghostfacers, and I thought that was so fun. Like, the way they portrayed it in the episode was both like, "Oh my god! These guys are so terrible!" but also it's like, so hilarious. And I love that.
C: Yeah. I agree. And I feel like this did a lot better of a job at being funny than- what was the name of the episode that they were in previously?
G: I think "Tall Tales"? No, that's not true.
C: No, it wasn't "Tall Tales."
G: It's like "House-" House M.D. [laughs] No.
C: "Hell House"?
G: "Hell House," yeah.
C: I feel like it felt a lot more mean-spirited in "Hell House," the way that they treated Ed and Harry and, I don't know, the way that they were like, nerds was not very entertaining or funny to me. But this was actually funny.
G: Yeah, because back then, it was like, "Oh, they're so like- They're cowards, and they're unmasculine, and they're nerds, and that's why this is funny."
C: Yeah. And they don't even sex with girls.
G: Yeah, they have sex with each other! [both laugh] But like, in this episode, it's like, "No, no, no. These guys are like, actual shitheads," and so you're laughing more at their misery.
C: Yeah.
G: So what did you know about this episode before going in?
C: Okay, so the first thing I knew was that Maggie Zeddmore, Ed's adopted sister, is Asian.
G: [laughs] Yes! Yes.
C: Yeah. I knew that there'd be a shot with the Ghostfacers posed in front of their van because I've seen edits of it as the "Down with Cis" bus. [both laugh] Yeah. So I guess I knew that they had a team. I knew that the format of the episode was that it would be a Ghostfacers episode, so there'd be shakycam, and Sam and Dean would take more of a back seat. And I knew that Sam and Dean would actually swear in this episode, and that it is the origin of the the "Ghostfacers effect" term that people like to use a lot in Supernatural analysis on the Tumbles.
G: Yeah. Wow! You say "the Tumbles" now, just like I do. [C laughs]
C: Yeah, you infected me with that, I suppose. Yeah, I knew about Corbett being "that poor gay intern." [G laughs] And that he would be played by Dustin Milligan, who is in two much better shows as Ted from Schitt’s Creek and Friedman in Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective Agency. I knew about-
G: He's handsome!
C: Yeah, he's cute. I knew about "gay love can pierce through the veil of death and save the day," of course. And I thought for some reason that the big Edharry break up would be in this episode, but it's probably in "The Real Ghostfacers" or something instead, because I forgot that they show up again after this. So yeah.
G: They do. They do show up again.
C: So that is what-
G: Do you know the “Hard Feelings” Edharry AMV?
C: Yes, of course I know about the “Hard Feelings” Ed and Harry AMV! [G laughs] And the linked fanfiction.
G: Oh, I love the Supernatural fandom so much. [C laughs] I think we are so funny.
C: Yeah. I agree.
G: So yeah. Let's start.
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G: Honestly, I feel like discussing this episode is a bit difficult because a lot of the gags, I suppose, are quite visual, would you say?
C: I agree.
G: But we will try.
C: We'll try.
G: So we actually have a typical "Before" sequence and title card, and it's just, you know, like, they kill people- [laughs] "they kill people."
C: They do!
G: They do also kill people. [laughing] But they kill, like, monsters. And then Harry and Ed show up, and they do a bit about that. And then the scene like, shatters or whatever, like TV interference, and it becomes Harry and Ed in suits?
C: Yeah, suits.
G: Incredibly ill-fitting suits, and they're like, drinking, and they're talking [serious voice] like this. They're like, "Hello. It is I." And they introduce themselves, and they're like, "We are going to introduce you, TV executive bigwig, to the concept of our show. Because while you're watching this, you're gonna watch the scariest one hour of your life." [C laughs] And in that intro, they say, like, "I know that you're having a rough day because of the writer's strike," and then they're like, "Ugh, writers. They're lazy, fat cats." And then they go, "Who needs writers when there's guys like us for reality TV?" They introduce the Ghostfacers, and they get the iconic, [sings] "Ghostfacers!" theme song.
C: [singing] "We face the ghosts when the others will not! We're Ghost- [both] Ghostfacers!"
G: So much fun.
C: Yeah. Great theme song.
G: I actually- I know this is a reference to Ghostbusters.
C: Yeah, which I haven't watched.
G: I haven't watched also. Have you watched the-
C: Not even the one with women.
G: Yeah, not even the one with women. You know what I have watched?
C: What?
G: I have watched the Supernatural parody. [C laughs] [laughing] Do you know that one?
C: Which one?
G: I don't know what they're called, but like, they also did like a "Shake It Off" Supernatural parody.
C: Is this the one that yielded like, the screenshot of like, Misha in front of spreadsheets?
G: Yes.
C: Yeah.
G: And Jack. I mean, who's the actor for Jack?
C: Uh, Al... Cal... It starts with a C.
G: He's just Jack to me. Al Capone. No. [C laughs] Al...
C: [typing] "Jack Kline..."
G: Is it Al? I don't think it's Al.
C: I feel like it is Al.
G: Can we just-
C: Alexander Cal-vare. Calvert.
G: Calvert.
C: Calvert? Calvert.
G: I think it's Calvert.
C: Okay. But a lot of people call him Alcal.
G: Alcal! People call him Alcal. Yeah. And like, I think Alcal looks cute there. He's sitting, and he's like, the secretary. He's applying to be the secretary. Do you even know what I'm talking about?
C: I think I do. Or at least there's a scene where Misha asks him if he got the spreadsheets ready or something?
G: Yeah, something like that. Anyway, that show- that's the only Ghostbusters I've seen. [laughs] When I first entered the fandom, that was when the "Shake It Off" was new, so I remember seeing it a lot.
C: Yeah, that makes sense.
G: Have you watched it?
C: No, I just know the screenshot about the spreadsheets because of that comment that Collins made at a con once about how heaven would just be like, Cas and Jack trying to like, balance Excel sheets, so then people brought that back. But I never bothered watching the actual video.
G: Yeah. Well, I think it's called "Hillywood Show." Whatever. Anyway.
C: Anyway. Alright. Also, I want to mention that as the theme music plays, we have like, shots of each member of the team and then their name-
G: Yeah, and they're being introduced.
C: Yeah, but then at the end, like during the theme song, you get Sam and Dean, which is sort of like a fun little reveal. And Sam's picture is just like, him in the shadows, looking vaguely annoyed, and then Dean’s is him like, flipping them off-
G: Flipping the screen, yeah.
C: Yeah. Anyway.
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C: So we start with Ed and Harry getting out of a car. And we have these documentary-style voice overs where they're talking about how they work together at a Kinko’s, which is a great name for a copy shop. I hope that they haven't changed their name. And afterwards, they get off by 6 PM, and they go join their team, and they discuss things.
G: I love the lone wolves lines so much. They're like, "We're two lone wolves, and we need other wolves." [laughs] They're so stupid!
C: Yes. Oh, also, when they get out of the car, it's clear they're trying to walk in slow motion, but it's clear that no actual slow motion effect is happening, they're just trying to walk slow, and then the cars behind them are going at normal speeds so you can so tell that they're just trying to watch slow.
G: It's funny.
C: So we get to "Phase I: The Homework," which is like, the screen that shows up.
G: The lore, yeah. They're gonna do the lore.
C: Yeah, they show up at the office, and we are introduced to Spruce, who is unbearable. And Corbett.
G: He's just- I mean, Spruce is like, whatever. Like, why is he even here?
C: I- They just needed a guy to like, to do the filming, I think, once the plot happens. But I don't know why they bothered giving him the world's worst personality to boot.
G: What makes him bad? What are you talking about? I don't remember him.
C: Oh, he calls Ed or Harry "mein fuhrer," which is like, what they called Hitler?
G: Oh. Okay! [laughs] Okay!
C: Yeah. So, you know, he's that kind of a guy.
So, right, so we're introduced to Spruce, Corbett, and Maggie.
G: Whoo!
C: Yeah. God, they did Maggie so dirty this episode.
G: I mean, Corbett dies, so like-
C: Corbett dies, but like, is that worse than kissing Harry? [G laughs] I don't think so.
G: There are layers to it, yeah. [C laughs]
C: Yeah. So right. Their office, like, there's a big ole Ghostfacers sticker on the door, and it looks like some kind of an underground lair situation. It's a fun aesthetic. So Corbett, we learn in his little segment that he got into this team because he was at some outlet mall, and he saw Ed putting up flyers to recruit Ghostfacers, and he decided to join for heterosexual reasons.
G: [laughs] Yeah!
C: Yeah.
G: What's so funny is I thought, like, the reveal at the end- Okay, here's what I thought. I thought that Corbett is not like, obviously like, gay, because I remember the end scene only where Harry's saying to Ed, like, "You know that he wanted you." Stuff like that. And I thought it was like, not obvious-
C: That was the reveal.
G: Yeah, I thought that was the reveal, and it was not obvious to Ed before because it wasn't obvious to us, or, you know, stuff like that.
C: Yeah.
G: So like [laughs], the fact that from the get-go, he's like, "Oh my god, hi Ed!" [laughing] I thought was so funny.
C: It's really good.
G: It's funny! Yeah. I know he dies, but I consider Corbett good gay representation. Thumbs up, my dude.
C: Is this not an episode where Supernatural got nominated for a GLAAD award about it? [G laughing]
G: Yeah!
C: Let me fucking check. Right? They did, right?
G: [laughing] They did, they did, they did, they did.
C: Okay. Let me- I want to know- I want to know which episodes got nominated for a GLAAD award. Yes, okay. "Ghostfacers." And then they got nominated for "The Real Ghostbusters" because of [laughing] the fucking Wincest LARPers.
G: [laughing] Oh no! Oh no!
C: And then they nominated for Charlie in "LARP and the Real Girl," which is normal. And you know who fucking won that round? You know who won over that round?
G: Who?
C: An episode of Elementary, baby!!
Oh, I just said that I think the one that it lost to is probably "Snow Angels" 'cause it features Mrs. Hudson, who's trans. I don't think they did a very good job with her, but like, I also don't know how good of a job they do with Charlie in “LARP and the Real Girl,” so yeah, I don't know if it was a deserved loss or not.
G: Yeah.
C: Yeah.
G: And that's how we met Corbett.
C: Yes, that is how we met Corbett. And then we have a little Maggie section where she doesn't get to talk about herself at all. Like, it starts with her and Harry- like, apparently, this was supposed to be foreshadowing, but I did not see it. Harry sort of teasingly like, punches her, and then she like, actually punches him back.
G: Yeah.
C: Was this supposed to be lead-up to them being romantically interested in each other? 'Cause this seemed like, incredibly sibling-like, you know?
G: [laughs] I think- I think it is a little- You know how like, when you're young, and then your boy classmates pull on your pigtails and your teachers are like, "It's because he likes you!"
C: Right. So it's that kind of a situation.
G: Yeah, it's like that kind of sitch, yeah.
C: Alright. Alright.
So yeah. And then we have Harry telling Ed, "Ed, your sister's abusing staff." And then Ed says, “That's adopted sister, thank you very much.” What? Why? [G laughs]
G: That's so-
C: What kind of a sloppy, sloppy exposition line.
G: They just wanted to be like, "If you're wondering why she's Asian, and he's white-"
C: Like, "We know, we know. We promise we would never do race-blind casting in a situation unless it was a way to make things more racist. We prommy, we know."
G: Yeah.
C: Right, but like- Is it also to show that they have a strange relationship because the camera zooms in on Maggie after that, and she's like- she has a "What the fuck?" face on, because Ed seems to be saying that to mean like, "I don't actually care about her, and she's not actually part of my family"?
G: Yeah, no, I mean, that's the intention, I feel like-
C: But like, that feels like, weird.
G: Later, when he goes bazooka on Harry.
C: Yeah.
G: That's why it's so weird. [laughs]
C: Yeah, it's ugly.
G: [laughing] Like, what even is going on?
C: What even is going on? Who knows? It's Supernatural.
C: So in Maggie's little section, she just says, like, “Oh, Ed has been obsessed with the supernatural since we were kids, and he and Harry met at computer camp, and they experienced love at first geek.” So yeah, you know, they are having sex with each other. And then we get Spruce’s stupid fucking intro. [G laughs] So I think they are establishing this guy as incredibly unlikeable, because he starts off with like, [annoying voice] “What up playa?” in like, the most annoying voice, like even more annoying than I just put it. And then his intro, he says that he's "15/16th Jew and 1/16th Cherokee," and then he says just some fucked up shit. I think the main thing I fixated on was him saying his great-great-grandfather was a degenerate gambler, and had a peyote- peyote? peyote addiction.
G: What does that mean?
C: Like, the plant itself is just a cactus that has psychoactive properties. But, like, the implication is that the great great grandfather is the 1/16th Cherokee-
G: Oh.
C: - so like, characterizing a Native man as a degenerate gambler with an addiction to a cactus is just a fucked up thing to do. So, interesting choice, Ben Edlund. And then, right, and also he talks about his grandfather and his great grandfather. But he says his grandfather is someone who performs circumcision on Jewish boy children, and his great grandfather was a tallis maker. And I think that- yeah, okay, that's a prayer shawl used in Judaism. So, I mean, those are just like- I guess those are just about his-
G: Jew-
C: - yeah, other predecessors being Jewish and being involved heavily involved in the faith, which is, I think, more normal than whatever he said about his 1/16th great great grandfather, but it's also like- I don't know. I'm trying to figure out if they were trying to make some kind of antisemitic joke here, but I'm not certain. I know that Ben Edlund is a non-practicing Jewish person, so I don't know. I feel like I don't have much further to say there, but the vibes feel off.
G: I mean, aren't the vibes supposed to feel off? Because-
C: The vibes are supposed to feel off, like, I think we're supposed to think this guy sucks, but- Yeah, I can't tell if the joke is supposed to be that Spruce is just making shit up? Or-
G: [laughs] I honestly did not think of this at all. 'Cause I didn't understand it. There were no subtitles so I didn't understand what he was saying.
C: Oh, you didn't watch it on sflix- or, I mean, sorry-
G: Netflix?
C: You didn't watch it on Netflix? [laughs] Where there are subtitles?
G: [laughing] No, I watched on BLEEP. I watched there.
C: [laughs] Yeah, okay.
G: I watched on the website that you told me to watch in.
C: Yeah, I started there, but then my roommates wanted to watch with me, and it wasn't loud enough for them, so I moved to totally Netflix, which has subtitles. [G laughs]
G: Great, yeah.
C: Yeah. Okay. So yeah, I don't know. I can't tell if the point is like, he's making up the stuff about his heritage, and then he’s saying stereotypical stuff, or he's right about his heritage, but he's making up professions for his ancestors in order to be funny, or if- Yeah, I don't know what's happening here. But the vibes are off for some reason.
G: Alright.
C: Alright. [laughs]
Okay, and then we hear about the mission that they're on. They're trying to break into Morton House, which becomes haunted- the most haunted place in America every four years on Leap Day, and apparently, no one has ever managed to stay the entire night, but they're going to do it. This whole time, Ed is presenting at a whiteboard, and then Corbett comes up to him and hands him a cup of coffee [G laughs], and Ed goes like, “Oh, that's good,” and Corbett's like, “Oh, yeah, hee-hee, it's French vanilla, because the other day, you said how much you liked it, so um, yeah, tee-hee, I'm twirling my hair," etc. And, you know, Ed thanks him. And Corbett’s like, “You're welcome.” And there's a long, lingering pause on both of their faces.
G: Yeah. And it cuts to a scene of Harry being like, “I think Corbett likes Ed, and I think that's bad for the team.”
C: Yeah. [laughs]
G: And it's like- [laughs] Literally, when this played, I started singing the song that you're obsessed with. The one that goes like, [laughing/singing] "Jealousy, turning saints into the sea-"
C: Into the sea.
G: Literally.
C: Literally.
C: Yeah. But oh, before it cuts, I think while Ed’s presenting, he just drops his marker.
G: Yeah. Like, he's presenting, and he just throws his marker on the floor. There's so many like, little tidbits on their physical acting. It was fun, yeah.
C: Yeah, there's some fun physical gags.
G: Yeah. I mean like, while Harry was talking about Corbett, Corbett shows up by the door of the car and just says "hi" to the camera, which I thought was also fun.
C: Yeah.
G: After Harry says that Corbett is like, into Ed [C laughing], there's a scene where Corbett is like, “Oh, yeah, Ed has that like, rugged look, you know. Really beautiful beard... Yeah. And Harry's nice!" [both laugh] This is- this is how we talk about Sam and Dean.
C: Yeah.
G: And we don't even call Dean nice. We don't even call Dean nice.
C: Yeah, it's true. It's true. I just- I'm trying to figure out- like, the Corbett stuff is funny, but like, it's not funny because he's gay, it's just funny that he has bad taste, right? Like, that's what you're supposed to get?
G: I think it's funny that like, this absolutely handsome young man is so into this guy who is obviously a loser and asshole.
C: Yeah. Yeah. [laughs] But he also has kind of like a pretty boy look going on. I feel like they don't make him like, masculinely attractive in their stylings. So-
G: He definitely looks gay, yeah.
C: He definitely looks gay. Good for him.
G: I mean, "Definitely looks gay-" what does that even mean? But you know what I mean, like-
C: Yeah. He just does. Good for him.
G: [laughing] He dresses like me! [both laughing] What a slay.
C: And this is why representation is so important.
G: Yeah.
C: [laughs] Good for him. So yeah. I guess the whole time, I was like, trying to figure out if this was homophobic or not, and like, I didn't feel that-
G: I mean, it's definitely homophobic that they introduce a gay character to kill him-
C: And like murder-
G: Yeah. The brutal- [laughs] the way they murder is so brutal as well, and like, they replay his murder scene over and over again. [screams]
C: They sure do.
G: But like, the whole point of the episode- Again, this is where the crux of it is, which is that-
C: Gay love can-
G: It's being satirical. Like, they're being like, "Look at how they exploit this obviously horrific death, and look at how-" you know, like, that's the point. So them being like, "Ah, look at how this gay man dies" and they like- I don't fucking know. Like, you know. That kind of shit. Like, it's supposed to be- homophobic? [both laugh] You know what I mean? Not- Me defending the entirety-
C: [laughing] Homophobia is okay when it's on purpose.
G: [laughing] Me defending the entirety of Supernatural: it's supposed to be homophobic!
C: [laughing] It's on purpose, so it's okay!
Yeah, I don't know, I feel like you can't hide behind satire for everything.
G: No, here's the thing-
C: I feel like it only works if Supernatural is usually not homophobic.
G: Exactly. Like, if you view this episode just as itself, I don't think it's homophobic, right?
C: Yeah.
G: But the fact that, like, couple of episodes back, Dean was telling Sam that he's gay for knowing-
C: [laughs] What Snow White is?
G: [laughs] Yeah, exactly. Like, that's what makes it a bit like, "Okay, so like, they're homophobic satirically, but they're also homophobic for real, so-" [laughs]
C: Yeah.
G: Yeah.
C: Yeah. Oh, well. Well, the GLAAD award-
G: I think it would be interesting what the grading we'll give later for the spreadsheets will be.
C: Yeah, I really don't know right now.
G: Yeah. I think we'll figure it out as we go.
C: We'll figure it out as we go!
So Ed continues presenting, and then suddenly, his whiteboard crashes to the ground, and we get the reveal that their entire office is in Ed's dad's garage. [laughs]
G: Yeah, I didn't realize that that was what's happening.
C: Uh-huh. What did you think was happening?
G: I was like, "Why is a car like, going through the wall?" [both laughing] I was like, "Did the dad- was the dad like- does the dad have Alzheimer's and is like, driving through where he shouldn't be driving?" you know. I did not understand what was happening.
C: Right. Yeah. That makes sense. But yeah, no, it was just that his whiteboard crashes because it's next to the garage door, and it opened up, and his dad's there. Yeah, his dad seems like a nice guy in the one second we get. And, you know, we get some funny Ed and Harry going like, "Oh my god, like, just cut the cameras. We don't need that. We don't need this part." [laughs] Good for them.
G: They don't.
C: And that ends Phase I.
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G: Yeah. And we have Phase II: Infiltration.
C: Ooh.
G: They enter the house, and they talk about how like, the cops have gotten tired of everyone trying to get in here, so they like, chain-linked everything. And then, like, Sam and Dean's car- why am I calling it that? The Impala like, shows up, and they're like, "Oh, let's just ignore it, whatever." And then they go inside, and they start setting up.
C: Sorry. Sam and Dean's entrance is characterized by like, loud-ass rock music playing, right?
G: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
C: And we're supposed to assume that what we're hearing is what Ed and Harry are hearing, which means that they play music at an intolerably loud volume from their car everywhere they drive-
G: Good for them.
C: And I'm not surprised that- I feel like half of the episodes realistically would be “the Impala got rear-ended again.” But, you know. [both laugh] Absolutely unbearable behavior on their behalves.
G: Maybe all the bad things that have happened to them are actually deserved and their fault for playing music this loud.
C: Yeah. [laughs] I agree.
G: Yeah. The only relevant scene in the setting up is Corbett setting up the camera, and then, like- what's his name?
C: Ed.
G: Ed behind the screen, going, “Looking good, Corbett!” And Corbett being like, "Oh my god, I'm blushing! Oh my god. Like, copy that, Ed!" [C laughs] And Ed being like, "Um, okay. You're welcome."
C: God bless.
G: God bless! And yeah, they just check the- everything. And then they set up their base, where, like, a lot of their equipment is, and then-
C: Also, this is when Spruce is setting up, that's when he calls Ed and Harry "mein fuhrer." So, yeah, fuck this guy.
G: Yeah. They go to Phase III: Face Time! [laughs] Which is such a funny name. So they're about to face the ghosts, and it's like- it's like- What time is it? Oh, it's 10:51, it says here. So they still have a quite a ways to midnight, which is their goal, actually. Like, no one has stayed up to midnight, so their goal here is to stay- be on midnight. And Ed and Corbett team up, and then Harry, Spruce, and Maggie team up. Yeah, and they're on different floors, I think. Like, the two are in the first floor, and the three are on the second floor. And as they move around, [laughs] they see rats. And like, Harry like, freaks the fuck out [C laughs], starts running. I think this is a famous gifset of like, reaction or something. Like, Harry screaming, and then somebody going, "It's just a rat." Which-
C: Yeah.
G: I thought it was funny.
C: Yeah, I think the next line is the one that I've seen screenshotted more.
G: What? "The rats are like the rats of the world"?
C: [laughs] Yeah. [G laughs]
G: I mean, come on, Harry is actually so funny. Like, he's funnier than Ed.
C: I agree.
G: I like him better than Ed. Yeah. He's an accidental comedy genius.
C: Right. Well, I think the thing about Harry is like, I think we're supposed to dislike Ed more, because he's like, the arrogant one. Because when we get like the text, like, labels when we're introducing the characters, did you notice that Ed's said-
G: He was the leader, yeah.
C: "Leader of the Ghostfacers" and yeah, Harry’s said “Co-Leader of the Ghostfacers”? [both laughing]
G: Okay, here's an important question. In BABPod, who's the host, and who's the co-host? [laughs]
C: You're the host, and I'm the co-host. I feel like that's known.
G: [laughs] Yeah. Because I do the like, "Okay, let's redirect in this direction" and that and blah blah blah.
C: Exactly. You introduce the segments and all that.
G: Yeah. Yeah. But I think we are both co-hosts. That's the proper terminology.
C: Yeah. Yeah. But if you had to pick one main host, it would probably be you.
G: Yeah. Let's just hide from the audience the fact that [laughs] when we have been planning on continuing without the other, [both laughing] I am always the other who is MIA. Very, very, very, very good host of the podcast.
C: Yeah! Great host of the podcast.
G: Yeah. So they just go around until Dean and Sam- oh, I’m gonna be crucified for that one.
C: Yeah.
G: Sam and Dean- [laughs] Sam and Dean show up, and they meet with Ed and Corbett. And like, at first, they're like, "Oh, who are you guys? Show us some ID," blah blah blah.
C: Yeah, they pretend they're cops.
G: Ed is basically- Ed is going, "We're authorized to be here," and then we see Sam end up recognizing Ed after Ed goes, "Wait, I know both of you guys." And Sam says, "Holy shit," but like, obviously, the “shit” is bleeped.
C: Yeah.
G: And this starts the Ghostfacer Effect, as we call it.
C: Mm-hm.
G: Is this something we want to talk about?
C: We can just define it for people who don't know.
G: Yeah.
C: The idea is just that, like in Supernatural the show, Sam and Dean never swear. There's nothing that's bleeped out. They're always just saying "frigging" and stuff like that. [G laughs] But we can see that they swear pretty commonly.
G: Heavily, yeah.
C: Yeah, pretty heavily in this footage, which we consider to be less filtered. So the idea is that Supernatural the show is not just an unfiltered recording of what Sam and Dean do. Like, there is some kind of a force that is editing their dialogue and actions in a way to like, make it a better narrative, or make it more palatable. And people mostly just apply this Destiel, I think. [both laugh]
G: As we do everything about Supernatural. Literally just apply to Destiel.
C: Yeah. I mean, I don't want to be part of the "we" that makes everything about Destiel [G laughs], but I will make everything about Cas.
G: I mean, I personally am not that involved with Supernatural fandom spaces anymore.
C: Same, yeah.
G: So, yeah. I'm just chilling. Think about it occasionally. Once a week, perhaps, when we record this podcast. [C laughs]
C: Yup.
G: Yeah. And it's a fun life! And I mean, I think the Ghostfacers Effect is actually like, super interesting, and it's one of the- I mean, back when I was young, we didn't like, do the Ghostfacers Effect. So I think it's one of those fun, like, after Supernatural type of terminology.
C: Yeah.
G: That, you know, is fun. And I think with the other media I've consumed since, I do like, tend to think more about like, "Okay, so what were they not allowed to show here" or stuff like that.
C: Right.
G: Yeah, I think it's an interesting way to view media. Especially big ones, like ones that fall under a lot of hands, like a TV show. Yeah. And another- I would say another post-Supernatural Supernatural thing that I actually really enjoy is the -coded, -girl phenomena. [laughs]
C: I don't- That's not new. Like, they talked about Samgirls, like, in “Fan Fiction” the episode.
G: Yeah, but like, -coded? You don't think that's new?
C: I don't think -coded is new. I mean, okay, I only joined post November 5th, so I guess I don't know anything. So maybe it is new. Because you've been here longer.
G: Yeah.
C: So maybe it is new. I feel like it feels so intrinsically tied with -girl that I feel like if -girl was around, then -coded should have been around.
G: No, I don't think so.
C: Okay.
G: I think people back then were like, "I kin Dean Winchester." And now everyone's ashamed to say "I kin Dean Winchester," so they just say "I'm Dean Winchester-coded." [both laugh]
C: I see.
G: That's my hot take, yeah.
C: So -coded rose out of cowardice.
G: Yeah.
C: Sad.
G: And I remember telling someone who's not involved in Supernatural like, "Oh, in the Supernatural fandom, we say like, if you're like Dean, you say you're Deancoded, and if you like Cas, you say you're a Casgirl. So you can be a Samcoded Deangirl," blah blah blah blah blah blah. And they were like, "This is literally like those- those jokes that are like 'I'm peachcel-'" like, you know that one?
C: The one?
G: For example, "I'm foodcel storepilled"? You know that one? The -cel -pilled thing?
C: Oh, yeah! Yeah, yeah.
G: Yeah. And it literally is.
C: It is.
G: And I have not stopped thinking about that. [C laughs] Literally, -coded -girl is just -cel -pilled.
C: Yeah. So true.
G: Anyway, they realize that these guys are like, the guys from the tulpa house, and apparently, back then, they called themselves The Hellhounds.
C: Their blog was called hellhoundslair.com.
G: Ah, yeah, you're right. And Ed said like, "Oh, we're not called The Hellhounds anymore. It didn't test well." [both laugh] I support that. Imagine if we changed our name after we realized that it's not testing well. [both laugh] We probably should have.
C: Yeah. Our logo designer recently put us on her resume, and like, it was a lot of like, "I have to add footnotes and shit to explain the situation." [laughs]
G: I mean, you could have just added the ones without the lo- without the name, right?
C: Oh, yeah, no. But I mean like it was- she like, wrote it down in like a cover letter, so-
G: Noo!
C: [laughing] She had to be like, "a podcast that critiques Supernatural." [G screams]
G: God.
C: God bless.
G: 'Cause the person who made our music, I was like, "How will I put you in the credits?" [C laughs] And she was like, "Just don't. [both laughing] I don't want to be associated with you guys."
C: God fucking bless.
G: Thank god.
C: She's so real for that.
G: She literally is so real for that. She said, "Just give me the money, and then never speak to me again. [both laugh] I don't want to be linked to this at all."
C: Yeah. I'm just surprised that Ed and Harry don't mention the way that “Hell House” left off, which is where Sam tricked them into thinking that they were gonna get a movie deal-
G: Yeah.
C: - and then they drove all the way to California.
G: Maybe they didn't realize that that's Sam's fault.
C: Right. What, do you think they showed up, and they were like, "Oh my god, it's because he hated the name Hellhounds, so he never met us. We have to change it to Ghostfacers!" [laughs]
G: Maybe they were like, "We got scammed," but they don't know that it's Sam. I think that's most probably what happened.
C: Yeah. Probably.
G: That was such an another asshole move, though. No wonder these guys became so terrible.
C: This one ends with another asshole move.
G: I don't think this one is so asshole-ish. Because-
C: This is the last- like, what if Corbett's family wanted like, the last footage of him alive that was left in the world?
G: Oh, yeah. Yeah, what if his family wanted a footage of him being brutally murdered by a ghost [C laughs], you know? So sad.
C: Yeah. Well- no, exactly. They are missing out. [G laughs]
G: Yeah. And Ed is just like, "Oh, these guys are not cops." And Dean's like, "Where's your partner? Wasn't it a different guy?" And-
C: Corbett's having a time at this, I'm assuming.
G: Yeah. And Dean is like, "Okay, let's get- We need to get you and your girlfriends out of here." Which I think-
C: Which is homophobic.
G: - is homophobia. That is homophobia. So, so far the only- [laughing]
C: The only people he knows are in this house are Corbett and Harry, right? Yeah.
G: [laughing] Yeah. [both laughing]
C: [laughing] Oh my god. Let's literally get your girlfriends out of here.
G: [laughing] To be clear, I'm laughing because this episode where they literally kill a gay character, and the homophobia moment is from Dean Winchester! [C laughing] It's still him.
C: It's just an intrinsic part of his personality.
G: [laughing] It's still him, Crystal! It's still him! [laughing]
C: It's always him. [both laughing] Ugh. Mr. Homophobia himself.
G: [still laughing] Yeah.
So then Ed says, "Listen here, chisel-chest."
C: Yeah.
G: "We were here first, so we're here. We beat you." And Dean like, literally grabs Ed. And I was like, "This literally looks like the beginning of a [C laughing] porno that I will not watch." Literally.
C: A little bit, yeah.
G: Because of the angle, too. It's like- yeah, I don't know.
C: And the bad- the bad camera.
G: And then Dean is just like, "Where's your partner?" And we cut to the second floor, where Harry, Maggie, and Spruce are.
C: Yep.
-
C: So the EMF is spiking, the temperature is down, and then, like, the camera starts glitching out, which is classic ghost behavior. And then, like, a ghost appears on the camera, but like, he looks like such a guy, you know?
G: Yeah, I know.
C: He doesn't look like a ghost at all. And maybe that's because- okay, in "Hollywood Babylon" when they could see ghosts through the camera, did they look more physically present than they did without the camera?
G: I think so, I think so.
C: Okay. So I guess that is the explanation here. So it's just some guy in a suit. And, like, he seems to be explaining himself to someone he owes money to, and then he gets shot. And then the Ghostfacers, like, splash screen appears. Good for them. And we cut back to downstairs, and Ed is explaining to Sam and Dean that they're spending the night for their TV show, and no one's ever managed it. And Sam and Dean of course, say the obvious, which is like, "Well, no, that's just 'cause everyone who stayed past midnight fucking died." A lot of people went missing here who stayed the night on February 29th. And it said that the only body they ever found was the last owner, Freeman Daggett. [laughs] And at- no, not at this moment. At a later moment, when they say this guy's name, [G laughing] me and my two roommates I was watching this with, who are a gay man and a lesbian, all turned to each other and said, "Freeman Faggot." [both laughing] But anyway.
G: For real.
C: Simultaneously. For real. So yeah, Sam's showing Ed records and stuff that he supposedly got from the local library, and then at this moment, Harry, Maggie, and Spruce run down the stairs, and they're all exclaiming about how like, “Oh my god! We saw an actual fucking ghost on camera. It was there.” And then Harry sees Sam and Dean, and he goes, "Hey! Are those the bleeps-" the like- [makes bleep sound] "- from Texas?" [G laughing] And, okay, did you think-
G: [laughing] Is this the one?
C: - this was the f-slur? Did you- I really, really thought this was the f-slur. [G laughing] 'Cause you can hear like a "ts" sound at the end. Like, what- what's the other option?
G: Well, fuckhead. Fuckheads.
C: Okay, yeah, you're right. Fuckhead, shithead, those are both possibilities. Me and my roommates wound it back like, ten times trying to figure it out, and I think that is what we eventually landed on, but we really, really thought it was the f-slur for like, the first 4 times that we heard it. [G laughs]
G: Yeah.
C: God bless.
G: God bless!
C: Right. So Maggie is showing the footage, and then Sam and Dean, they discuss among themselves. They say that, you know, the footage that we saw, that was just a death echo, so that's not really anything particularly harmful, but it's weird that it's happening here because no one got shot to death here. And Sam turns back to the group, and he says- or is it Dean who says it? 'Cause the transcript says it was Sam, but I don't- I feel like it was Dean who said it. I don't know. Okay.
G: What?
C: So he says, "Look, we got a problem here. That ghost ain't it."
G: No, that's Sam. That's really Sam.
C: Okay, you're sure that was Sam? Okay, right. And my roommate burst into laughter for like 20 seconds about this, and we finally figured out that she read it as like, AAVE, like, "That ghost ain't it" as in like- [both laughing] you know what I mean? Like- "That ghost-"
G: "That ghost did not slay."
C: [laughing] Yeah, exactly. But that was not what Sam was saying. Sam did not mean it that way. [both laughing]
G: "That ghost [both] ain't it." [both laughing]
C: So Dean explains that a death echo is just like a ghost that is reliving its- their death over and over again, usually in the place that they died, and they don't really pose any real danger. So there's something else in the house that is the actual problem. And then Sam and Dean start trying to usher everybody out of the house before midnight. Harry promises that he'll make Sam and Dean recurring guest stars. [laughs] And then they realize that Corbett is not here.
G: Oh, no.
C: Oh, no.
-
G: So, where's Corbett? Corbett is upstairs, and he's trying to communicate. He's trying to be a good boy! He's saying like- he's just going around being like, "I want to communicate with all the spirits in here," and then, like, a figure appears behind him. And then we cut back down, and then you hear him scream.
C: Yeah. Sorry, Corbett.
G: And they all just start running to the second floor, and Sam and Dean are like, "No, we need to go out!" Like, yada-yada-ya. And Corbett is just screaming until the clock strikes 12. Then you hear Corbett scream one final time, and then, it's just gone.
C: Yup.
G: And then we cut to a couple of minutes later where Ed and Harry are talking about how the guy just disappeared, and they're trying to look for him in the cameras that they have. And the Sam and Dean [both laugh], we can hear them arguing.
C: It's so funny.
G: Sam is like, "Oh my god, Dean. Are you happy now? Are you good? Are you happy?" And Dean is like, "Yeah, I'm happy!" [both laugh] And Sam goes [mocking Dean voice], "Oh, let's go hunt the Morton House. It's our Grand Canyon!" Like, he's literally putting on this voice.
C: [laughs] Yeah.
G: And then he goes, "You got two months left, and we're gonna die here tonight!"
Okay, first of all, two months.
C: Uh-huh. So it's been ten months.
G: The passing of time. Goddamn.
C: Yeah.
G: If you were to die in two months, would you like to know [laughs], weatherboy? [both laugh] Would you like to know?
C: That I was gonna die in 2 months?
G: Yeah.
C: I feel like a week is a good amount of notice beforehand. I think anything more than that, I would just be having a not fun time. A week is a good amount of time to get all your affairs in order and say goodbye to people.
G: Would you throw a massive party?
C: I mean, what a bummer of a party that would be.
G: I don't think so. I think it'd be like- You won't tell them, I feel like.
C: Oh. Oh, okay.
G: It's just like, "Let's have a party." But like, why would they come if they don't know you're dying?
C: Yeah, exactly, right. Because it's like, if you invite a bunch of people and they're like, "Oh, I don't have the time," they're gonna feel guilty forever afterwards if you don't let you know.
G: [laughing] Maybe they should. Maybe they should. [C laughs]
C: Yeah, so, right. I don't know. I feel like in- yeah, I don't know. I don't think I would throw a massive party. I feel like it would just be too messy.
G: Mm-hm. Yeah.
C: What about you?
G: Well, I think... I think I don't want to know if I die. When I'll die. "If"? [C laughs] That's such a funny way to put it. "I don't want to know if I die." But like, yeah, I don't want to know. I think for me, you know, [laughing] I live my life every day like it's my last- shut up. No, that's untrue. No, it's like, you know. Just live your life, and then, if you die, you die. RIP.
C: Yeah.
G: Yeah. Every single day, I cross the street near my- not every single day, but like, whenever I'm in Manila, like, where my uni is-
C: Are you doxxing yourself, or are there like, 5 million unis there?
G: Manila is where all the universities are, so I'm not doxxing myself.
C: Okay. Continue.
G: And the buses are passing by 'cause there are no overpasses in that horrible, horrible city. I just think to myself, "I may die today," and I think to myself, [laughs] "I don't want to throw a party!" [both laugh] That's my exact thought, so.
C: Every single time.
G: Yeah. Every single time, I like, "If I die today, would I regret that I didn't throw a party last week?" And the answer is no. [C laughs]
C: Yep. Yep. All you would regret is that you cannot film the next- you cannot record the next episode of BABPod.
G: Yeah! You'll have to replace me!
C: That's true.
G: Do you think if you replace me, the replacement would be the host, and you'd still be the co-host, or would you elevate to host?
C: No, I would be promoted. So maybe I'm sending those buses coming at you in order to like, make a power grab. [G laughs]
G: Exactly.
C: Yeah. Who knows?
G: We never know.
Yeah. So two months left. And then Sam is like, literally just smashing the door with a chair, and the guys are like, "What the fuck are you doing?" And Sam's like, "It's locked! We're all locked inside." He says- Dean, I guess says, "It's a supernatural lockdown, okay?" which I love. it literally is a supernatural lockdown.
C: Yeah.
G: And that the death echo is not the reason there's like, a more sinister being happening in the house. He says, "This is no death echo. [both] This is a bad mother." [both laugh]
C: They're allowed to swear in this episode!
G: I know! Just say "motherfucker"!
C: So that means that like, Sam will say shit, and Dean will flip people off. But Dean also genuinely says "mother" instead of motherfucker.
G: Exactly.
C: On purpose.
G: How do you feel about that? Does that make him more pathetic loser and corny?
C: I just- I want to know where he picked this up.
G: "You're a mother." [C laughs] Mother- I mean, do they say that in the US? Like, "She's mother." Do they say that?
C: No. [laughs]
G: Oh, in the Philippines, it's like, lingo where like, if somebody's serving, like, you know, the English serving, we call that like, "They're mother." For example, like, an actress is doing super well in a scene in a movie, you go, "Oh my god, she's so mother in this scene!"
C: Oh, that's fun.
G: And like, when Dean said, like, "This is a bad mother," I was like, "Oh my god, mother!"
C: Yeah. This ghost is serving, etc.
G: Etc.
C: It is serving birthday cake.
G: [laughs] What?
C: He's serving birthday cake. He's serving absolute birthday cake, the ghost.
G: What does that mean? Oh, because he's throwing a party.
C: Because he's literally serving a food. Yeah, there's birthday cake on the table, remember?
G: [laughs] Yeah. He's mother.
C: Yeah. How do we- okay, does this make Dean more wet and pathetic if he says "mother" on purpose- It makes him more of a loser, but I don't think it makes him a loser in a babygirl way. I think it just makes him a loser.
G: [laughs] Exactly. Which is how I see Dean. Just a loser.
C: Yeah.
G: Yeah. Remember when I was the Deanlover of this podcast?
C: I do remember that!
G: That was a year ago. That was a year ago. I'm a changed person now.
C: Good for you. [G laughs]
G: Yeah. And then the EMF starts spiking, and Sam's like, "Come here, you guys. Come here." And an apparition shows up, and it's a guy just standing. And then we see Dean go to the guy and like, go, "Hey! Hey, guy! [C laughing] Hey! Hey! Buddy!" Like, he's just trying to wake the guy up, and Sam goes, "What he's trying-" Sam is so benevolent.
C: Yeah.
G: He literally does exposition for these guys.
C: Yeah.
G: Sometimes occasionally begrudgingly, but he does do exposition. And he's like, "These guys are in a death echo, which means they're in a loop, and if you can like, snap them out of it, they can get out of the loop, but usually, you need some kind of connection to be able to do that." And then the apparition just-
C: Dean's yelling, "Wake up! Be dead!" [laughs]
G: Yeah. [laughing] He's so funny.
C: I think my main note during this time was "this is what Dean thinks therapy is like."
G: Literally. "Wake up, be alive!" That's what therapy is like.
C: Yeah.
G: And it is, though. [both laughing]
The guy gets like, smashed by a train. Like, obviously, we don't see the train, but like, that's obviously what's happening.
C: Yeah, we hear it.
G: And I thought the effect was pretty cool.
C: Yeah, it was decent.
G: Yeah, like, he doesn't go under the train, he goes over the train. You know what I mean?
C: Yeah.
G: It's pretty cool.
C: It hits him, and he starts kind of flying.
-
C: So, you know, Sam and Dean are confused about this, because, obviously, no one got hit by a train inside the house, so why are these death echoes appearing here? And okay, so- right. Maggie also asks, like, "So what are they doing here?" And Dean says, “Hey, give the lady a cigar.” Which-
G: What does that mean?
C: Yeah, right, I wasn't sure what it meant. Like it sort of sounds like, oh, she did a good job, or she made a good observation. But she didn't say anything new. I don't-
G: No, I think it's sarcastic, right? Like-
C: Oh, right. It's like, "Oh, wow, you're soo smart. You figured out the like, very obvious thing"?
G: Yeah.
C: Yeah. I think so.
G: What a rude guy.
C: Yeah. What a rude guy. Also, is this the only interaction he has with Maggie?
G: [laughs] I'm not sure.
C: Thank God, if so. [G laughs] Yeah, whenever Dean is anywhere near an Asian woman, my hackles rise.
G: And the next scene is he goes, "Alright, Maggie, does looking at this horrific nightmare through a camera comfort you? Does it make you feel better?" And then Maggie just goes- she puts the camera down, and then she rises it back up and she goes, "Yeah, I think so." [laughing] Which I think is so funny. Good for her, I like her.
C: It is. Good for her. I'm glad she had one moment of having a personality.
So we look around the house, and there's a lot of taxidermy of stuffed animal heads. And they find out that the last owner of the house worked at the Gamble General Hospital as a janitor. He died of a heart attack in like 1964. And they look around, and it seemed like the only thing he ate were like army rations, and he was kind of like a doomsday prepper in that he had a lot of “survival under atomic attack” books around. And then they check his safe. There's a book on taxidermy, and then there's three toe tags in here for three corpses in a morgue. One who died by gunshot, one who died by a train accident, and one who died by suicide.
G: [laughing] And then when says "suicide," Sam was-
C: [laughing] Goes, "Ewww!"
G: And I thought that-
C: Just like in Ace Attorney.
G: [laughing] Literally just like in Ace Attorney. For context, there's a scene in Ace Attorney where Phoenix Wright is looking through the case files on the cabinet, and he goes to the S, and he goes. "What's in here? Suicide? [both] Ewwwww!" [C laughs] And I literally thought he was like- Sam is- I was like, "Why is Sam saying 'ew' to the suicide! That's so mean!"
C: But yeah. So what he explains is that the death echoes are all here, because this guy, in his capacity as a hospital janitor, stole these 3 bodies and put them somewhere in the house. And Dean says that he brought the remains home from the morgue "to play." And everyone yells, "Ewwww!"
So, okay. So there was like a two-to-one split in the room when this happened. One of my roommates thought that he meant that the bodies were getting taxidermied, like, he brought the bodies back to taxidermy them, and then me and the other roommate thought that Dean meant it in a necrophiliac way.
G: Yeah yeah yeah yeah.
C: What did you read it as? Necrophiliac way?
G: I read it as necrophilia, yeah. Because I didn't register immediately- I don't know why, but I feel like I'm so slow this episode. Maybe it's the format of the shakycam. Like, I absorb details as easily as I do.
C: It's very disorienting.
G: But like, the taxidermy completely flew over me, so I didn't even really think about it.
C: But also, we see the bodies later, and they don't look taxidermied.
G: Look taxidermied, yeah.
C: Yeah, but I also- I think the reveal later is that it wasn't even a necrophilia thing. It was just he just wanted them to be at his birthday party.
G: Yeah, he just wanted to hang out with them. Yeah! This is so- so weird. What a weird
motivation!
C: Yeah, I mean, it's- I feel it's pretty classic like, serial killer in a horror franchise.
G: I mean, he didn't even kill these people
C: Right. He just stole the bodies.
G: Yeah.
C: Yeah. I don't know. I think it's possible that like, as a hospital janitor, he like, met them, and he, like, had some amount of a rapport with them, so he was like, "These are like my friends, and I’m bringing them back for my party! They just happen to be dead at this point." But yeah, I don't know.
We continue around. Maggie has wandered off a little bit, and then she gets a jumpscared a little bit by Dean being behind her. Booo. And then we start getting more camera interference, we start getting higher EMF readings. And then Sam disappears.
G: They don't even put an effort about Sam disappearing. He literally just disappears.
C: I didn't even realize that he disappeared until, like, three minutes later, when we see him tied up.
G: No, like Dean was screaming, "Sam! Sam!"
C: I was just like, "That's Dean. That's just Dean behavior." [G laughs]
G: He's just screaming “Sam!” at any given point.
C: Yeah. [laughs] This is his like, default NPC setting.
-
G: Yeah. Anyway, our next scene is so [laughing] funny and weird, and what is even happening-
C: Oh god, I fucking hate it.
G: But basically, so they're looking for Sam, and they're looking for Corbett, right? And then Maggie and Harry like, meet at a secluded area, and Maggie's like, "I'm so scared. I'm so scared." I mean earlier, we see them hold hands as well, so like, this is foreshadowed.
C: We did? Wait, when was that?
G: When, during that scene where we see the second apparition, the train guy, they were holding hands.
C: Huh. Okay. Did not notice that.
G: Yeah. So Harry is like, “It's gonna be okay. It's gonna be okay, Maggie.” And then they kiss!
C: Boo.
G: And it cuts to Ed watching this, so upset. And I was like, "Why are you mad, bro?"
C: Yeah.
G: Literally, what's maddening about this?
C: I mean, does anyone want to see their sibling kiss anyone ever? [laughs]
G: Yeah, but- I understand that, that you don't. But I mean, like specifically this. Because the way he words is like, "my best friend and my best sister." [both laughing]
C: Yeah. I don't know-
G: He's mad specifically that it's Harry. I think what he's mad about.
C: Yeah. There does seem to be like, some kind of a complex that guys have about their sister- like, I don't- right? Like, there's like a thing where like, bro code is like, you don't date your bros' sisters or something.
G: Who else are you gonna date? [laughs]
C: Other women? Your bro himself, in this situation- but-
G: Yeah.
C: But yeah, I don't really understand the workings of the- I guess it's just like- it's also weird when you date within a friend group, so I think it's just like double weird when you date, and there's a familiar bond.
G: The only time I've been mad at two friends who dated and didn't tell us was because I liked one of the friend, so-
C: Yeah, you- fair.
G: So like, I feel like- my interpretation of this was like, I feel like Harry has some unresolved feelings- no no, Ed has some unresolved feelings towards Harry.
C: That's definitely one way to read it.
G: And so like, he was so upset. He was like, "I'm so upset because he's kissing my sister!" [laughs]
C: Yeah.
G: Yeah. God. You know, that was grade seven, and they're still together up until now, and I'm literally a college student. [C laughs] And like, imagine being with someone since you were 13. God, I'm still- [laughs] Whatever.
C: Sorry.
G: They should have broken up. [both laughing]
C: Do you still like one of the members of that relationship?
G: No! I don't. I don't even talk to them anymore. It's just I hate- it's like, I'm good- I was really good friends with one of the people, and then the other guy, I hated for very valid reasons.
C: Yeah. That makes sense.
G: So I was just upset that like, "You're gonna date someone that's not me, and it's that guy?" [C laughs] Yeah, that was what made me upset.
C: I understand. I think I hate when any-
G: God. This was years and years ago.
C: Mm. I hate when any of my friends are dating, and I think all of them should break up with all their partners. Um- except for you, I'm sorry! [both laughing] [screams] Wait, wait, should we cut that?
G: Yes, I am going through a breakup. RIP. So-
C: Yeah, sorry. [both laughing] I forgor!
G: I love that. Because for everyone's context, Crystal literally was like, in my DMs going, "I think you guys should break up. [C laughing] I think it really is for the best."
C: Maybe so. Maybe so.
G: Maybe so!
C: Yeah. Yeah. I think- Okay, but also like, the Edharry reading is not what we're supposed to read it as, right? So are we supposed to read it as the bro code violation?
G: I think we're supposed to read it as- I honestly don't know. Like, the other reading of this is like some weird stepsibling bullshit, right? [C laughing]
C: Yeah. Right. It is. Yeah, yeah. 'Cause it's not just about it being bad for the team the way that Harry is against Ed and Corbett. Because, yeah, it is specifically about his best friend and his best sister. So yeah. I don't know. Bedlund, give us a call, let us know. [G laughs]
G: Yeah. And then he like, gives his glasses away to Spruce, and then he starts attacking Harry.
C: Yeah.
G: And then, like, Sam is- I think it's Dean who goes, “Shut it down! Like, we're down two people, and you guys are fucking fighting?" And then- I found this funny. Like, when Ed gets his glasses back, he says, "My teeth are still intact. So I won that one, right?" [both laugh]
C: Yeah. He's right.
G: Have you ever been in a physical fight?
C: No, except like, with my sister. But those don't count. That's just sibling behavior.
G: Oh yeah.
C: You?
G: Yeah, I've had my sister on a chokehold at some point in my life. Like, I remember one time, she pulled my hair so hard while I had her in the chokehold, and my scalp literally hurted for days after. [laughs]
C: Ohh, ow.
G: I love that! That's just a sibling experience.
C: Yeah. That is just the sibling experience.
G: Anyway, Sam and Corbett are tied up underground.
C: And the song playing is, [singing] “It's my party, and I’ll cry if I want to, cry if I want to, cry-” You don't know this song?
G: No, I don't.
C: Okay. I'm a fan. This ghost has good taste in music.
G: Who sang this song?
C: Shit! I forgot her name. Lesley Gore. I think.
G: Oh, I love that name.
C: Yeah, it's a good name.
G: I love the name Leslie, because it's gender neutral, but I think of-
C: Yeah, but only for old people.
G: Yeah, only for old people. No, here's the thing. It's gender neutral, but whatever gender you are, I feel like it's queer in some way. [laughs] Like, have you ever met a Leslie who was not queer?
C: I don't think I've met a Leslie.
G: Well, all the Leslies you know in the world.
C: Well, I guess there's Feinberg, so that's a pretty gay Leslie.
G: Yeah.
C: Well, the doctor character in the One Day at a Time reboot is named Leslie, and he's pretty straight, I think. So that's one point against-
G: Leslie Jordan.
C: Who?
G: Leslie Jordan? You don't know?
C: No. I don't know who that is.
G: Oh my god, he died last year!
C: Oh.
G: RIP! [laughs]
C: Yeah. Who is he, though?
G: I mean, didn't he voice someone in Supernatural?
C: Did he?
G: Yeah, he voiced the- [laughs] in "Dog Dean Afternoon," he voiced a dog. [C screams] [both laugh]
C: Oh my god. Well, rest in peace to an absolute icon, I guess.
G: Yeah. “Dog Dean Afternoon” is back, baby. And you know what? She never left. She never left my heart. She never left my heart.
C: Good for her.
G: Yeah. So that's my Leslie hot take.
G: And the guy's name, the ghost's name is Daggett, so that's what I'll start calling him.
C: Yup.
G: And he just kills Corbett. And it's like, brutal, too.
C: It's pretty bad.
G: He like, slits his throat, right?
C: Yeah, I think so. He stabs him through the throat, which is like, worse than slitting a throat.
G: Ooh. Yeah. Anyway, Dean figures out that like, Sam and Corbett are probably in like, a saferoom which is in the basement because of the whole atomic juju.
C: Yeah.
G: Do you say the word juju in like, English?
C: I've not said it, but like, I'm sure there's people with whom it is the popular thing to say.
G: Okay. So yeah. Atomic juju. [laughs]
C: Right. Specifically, he was worried because he lived during the Cold War era, and he killed Corbett because Corbett's a Communist, and I know this in my heart. [G laughs]
G: Noo! The poor gay dead intern was also a Communist.
C: Yeah. That poor dead gay Commie intern. Me one day. [G laughs]
G: RIP.
C: RIP.
G: Yeah. While Daggett is about to kill Sam, Dean enters. Wait, no! We skipped like, a lot.
C: Did we?
G: There's a scene where they get locked out of the room, right?
C: I don't remember. The shakycam made it impossible to know what was going on.
G: Everything, yeah. There's a scene where like, Dean is going down, and then the door gets locked on him, so like, Ed, Harry, and Maggie get left behind.
C: Oh, right.
G: And Spruce basically films Dean, right?
C: Yes. But that happens after Sam gets the party hat forced on him. [G laughs] So funny!
G: Poor Sam. Poor Sam. I know Corbett just died a horrible death, but poor Sam.
C: Yeah, at least he died with dignity and not with a jaunty little party hat.
G: He did! He did! He has a party hat!
C: Wait, did Corbett get a party hat or-?
G: Yeah!
C: Wait, I didn't notice that. Does his death echo have a hat?
G: That's why there's a white string. There's a white string down his face, and that's holding the party hat.
C: Oh, I just thought that was the camera being bad. Okay.
G: Yeah.
C: Poor Corbett.
G: So Dean is like, “Oh, damn it!” And then he tells Ed and Harry like [laughs]- This is an iconic scene, right? Like, he tells Ed and Harry, "In my duffel bag, there's salt. Put it in a circle and then get inside." And then they just pause for so long. [C laughs] And I think Harry goes, "Inside the duffel bag?" [both laughing] And then Dean goes, "In the salt, you idiots!" And they're like, "Oh, okay, okay. Got it, got it."
C: Yeah.
G: And then there's a scene where Harry is like- where Ed tells Harry, "Hey, listen to me. If we don't die, it's totally okay if you do my sister."
C: Jesus.
G: Which is, again, like, so fucking weird, bro.
C: Yeah, what's happening?
G: These guys are so weird.
C: Yeah. I don't know. Someone who knows about bro code, message us and explain this.
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C: The ghost is happening again, or at least there's some kind of a camera interference. But it's not Daggett. It is Corbett's death echo, and he's like just bloody and like choking, and it's bad. It's not good. And Ed immediately is like, "Oh! Oh, Corbett!" So Sam and Dean- well, just Dean right now. Spruce asks Dean about what Sam said about Dean having two months left, and Dean’s like, “Yeah, it's complicated. You know, like, a while ago-” and then he goes like, "No, I'm not gonna whine about my fucking problems to some fucking reality show. I'm gonna do my fucking job." But okay, we're not certain if it's fucking, because my roommates heard like like an "ee" sound at the end of one of them, so obviously the immediate joke is that it was "I'm gonna do my faggoty job." [laughs] But I don't think that's what he said. It's probably "shitty job," it's probably just "shitty job."
Yeah. Do I need to clarify that I know that the f-slur is bad and some people are gonna have really bad associations with it? Nah, whatever. Continuing.
G: Well, I will insert that, and then let's continue.
C: [laughs] Okay! So Spruce asks if it's cancer. But then Dean says, like, "Shut up, because I’m hearing a sound." And the sound is the music that Daggett is playing. And also, we see that within the room, Daggett is saying like, "Oh, I've been waiting for some more friends. I get lonely. But you're coming to my party, aren't you?" So yeah, and he says, like, "You'll stay a good, long time." And then at this point, Dean is able to like, shove a cabinet away from a wall and then break a door open, and he gets into Daggett's bomb shelter. And he shoots Daggett with salt, and then he unties Sam. Wait, how do they resolve the Daggett thing? Did they burn a body at all. Oh, no, no, never mind. I remember now.
G: No, Corbett-
C: I remember now. Yeah. Okay. And then we see that inside the bomb shelter, there's like, a table surrounded by like three really old, decaying dead people. And then Corbett's corpse. And then there's like this nasty, rotting birthday cake on the table. And then the Ghostfacers splash screen happens again.
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G: Corbett shows up again and Ed tries to talk to him. But like, it doesn't work out, and he gets scared, and all that shit.
C: It's really sweet actually. Because, like, Maggie and Harry are like, "Don't step out of the circle, don't talk to him," but Ed's like, "No, he's suffering a lot. We have to help."
G: Sam and Dean and Spruce are being tossed around the room and shit, right?
C: Are they being tossed? I thought they were just talking.
G: No, they're being tossed.
C: Well, they have a brief discussion of like, the motivations of the ghost, right?
G: Yeah. Which is-
C: Just loneliness.
G: Yeah, he's lonely.
C: Just like, normal friendship loneliness.
G: They get tossed around, I'm pretty sure. And then Ed and Harry start talking about how- Harry tells Ed that, "You know, that guy. He wanted you. [C laughs] He had feelings for you."
C: Ed goes, "Wanted me to what?" [G laughs]
G: And Harry's like, "You know."
C: And he like, thrusts his hips a little.
G: Is this homophobic? [laughs]
C: Maybe? I think- Okay, I think that Harry and Maggie's stupidass relationship is treated with an amount of levity as well, but I feel like their feelings for each other aren't really made fun of. It's just like the way that Ed is reacting to it that's the joke. In this situation, I think some of the humor is like, Ed not knowing, and like- I don't know. Some of the humor is Ed's discomfort with the situation, which could be read as homophobic. I feel like, okay, Corbett's feelings themselves were made fun of a little bit, but like, in a way, where it felt like it was mostly just about how Ed is a bad choice. I don't know. It's hard- it's hard to tell, and I feel like I would need to understand the context of the media like on the TV during-
G: The time.
C: - the year of 2008 to really know, 'cause I feel like I'm less sensitive to homophobia nowadays because I'm usually like, "This is also a joke that a gay person would make, and for all I know, a gay person is making it."
G: Yeah.
C: But I know in this situation, a gay person is not.
G: Yeah, perhaps. He says the iconic line [C laughs], "Ed, you gotta be gay for that [both] poor dead intern. You gotta send him into the light!" [both laughing] Literally, yeah.
C: Yeah. The end.
G: For real. Ed approaches Corbett, and he's like, "It's me." [laughs] Literally any time anyone says, "It's me," I think about that scene in "Goodbye, Stranger." Like, no exception.
C: Oh, huh. I did not.
G: If anyone's like, "Hey, it's me," I think of Dean going, "It's me!" Anyway, he says, "Listen to me. You meant a lot to the team. You meant a lot to me. You never back down, never say a bad word-"
C: Wait, this is actually very "Goodbye, Stranger."
G: No, exactly! That's what I was saying!
C: It's the "We need you. I need you." shit. Okay, yeah. Dean was literally just stealing Ed's lines there.
G: [laughing] Literally!
C: Absolutely no originality. "Goodbye, Stranger" is just an attempt to be Ghostfacers.
G: Exactly. He says- [laughs] he says, "You never back down. You never say a bad word. I remember that, Corbett. I remember that. I remember because... [both] I love you, Corbett."
C: "I really, truly love you."
G: "Do you remember that?"
C: So how much- How much of this is just him-
G: How much of this is true?
C: Yeah.
G: Yeah, exactly.
C: I wanna know. Like, he has plausible deniability because he's been commanded to go be gay, but like, we've seen Ed try to act before because a lot of this documentary is him trying to act, but this feels- this genuinely feels touching, for like a little bit.
G: It genny feels touching?
C: What?
G: No, because you said "It's genny," and I was like, "It genny feels touching." [C laughs]
C: I thought I said "genuinely." Maybe I'm just talking weird around my retainers. [laughs]
G: Yeah. It genny feels touching.
C: It genny feels touching, I prommy.
G: And it does genny feel touching! [C laughs]
C: Yeah, like, I don't know. I feel like maybe something was happening there. Who knows?
G: Anyway, he says, like, "Yeah, it's me, Corbett. Like, please help us. You gotta help us." And then basically, I don't fucking know. Corbett kills Daggett. The end.
C: Yeah, it's like a really underwhelming ghost fight where, like, he just sort of tackles Daggett, and then they disappear in some white light. But I guess we saw something like this in “Red Sky at Morning," so, you know, ghosts can just kill other ghosts by hugging them. [G laughs]
G: By wanting it bad enough.
C: Yeah.
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C: Finally, we cut to the epilogue, and it's daytime, and everyone's leaving except for Corbett, because that guy's fucking dead. They don't bother taking his corpse out, do they?
G: I- that's something I was thinking about, and I- it makes me sad. Like, I don't think they do. 'Cause there's no ambulance or police officers or anything.
C: Right. I mean, maybe they're gonna go back for it, but I don't know. Poor guy.
G: Poor guy.
C: Yeah, so we get like, a voiceover of Ed being like, “This was a day of souls bound in torment. Of lives held in cruel balance. But the Ghostfacers did the best that they could." And we see, like, Harry and Maggie hug. Boo! I just wish that you could have a woman in an episode, and like, not be weird about it. And then we see that Sam is giving like, his phone number to Ed, ooh, but it's just like, I guess, "If you ever run into problems, you should call us." Which doesn't really feel right for- I don't really see why the Ghostfacers would have gone up in Sam's estimation at all. Also, if he was planning to fuck them over so bad by deleting all their footage, why would he give Ed a way to contact him?
G: I don't know
C: I don't know. Maybe it's one of those fake numbers where it's like, if you texted it, it donates $5 to the Red Cross or something out of your phone plan. Yeah. So. And Harry goes like, "We lost a beloved friend, but we gained new allies." A guy literally died. Like, a real guy actually died.
And, you know, they're doing the whole like, "Every day is a new beginning. The Ghostfacers were forced to face something far more scary than ghosts. They were forced to face... themselves." What? What did they have to face for themselves? Like, the Harry/Maggie situation-
G: [laughing] Homosexuality.
C: - and homosexuality?
G: Yeah.
C: Those were the things that they faced that were far more scary than ghosts? [both laughing]
G: I mean, the Harry and Maggie thing was far more scary than ghosts.
C: Yeah. Right. And then they have an annoying little thing where Ed's like, "War changes man," and Harry goes, "And Maggie," and then Ed corrects himself to say, "War changes man and one woman." Which okay, I did laugh a little, but it's also mostly annoying. Right, and Ed says, "Corbett, we just like to think that you're out there watching over us." And Harry is like, "We've promoted you from intern to a full Ghostfacer. Partly because it would be cool to have a ghost on the team." They're being so not nice about this.
G: Yeah!
C: But I mean, okay, I think Harry is the one who's mostly saying the insensitive lines. Ed is sort of trying harder. He says, like, you know, "This whole time, we thought we were teaching you, and really, you were teaching us. About heart, about dedication, and about... how gay love can pierce through the veil of death and save the day"!
G: Literally when they were saying this, I was like, "You know who taught me about heart? [C laughs] About dedication? And about [both] how gay love can pierce through the veil of death and save the day?" Literally [both] Castiel. Shoutout, my man.
C: Shoutout to Cas. Yeah, okay-
G: And also Alan J. Corbett.
C: Yeah, and also Alan J. Corbett. Right, I've seen that line screenshotted a lot, but it's like, delivered a lot like slower and seriouser than it came off in all the screenshots. Good for Ed. Good for Alan J. Corbett. Yeah. And Harry has some dumb line about like, "Going into that starry night." I don't know what he's referencing. He calls Corbett "young Turk."
G: Yeah.
C: Is that like, a character, or is he just talking about the ethnicity? [G laughs]
G: I mean, I'm pretty sure Corbett is white if anything.
C: Yeah, I'm pretty sure Corbett is white, so I don't know. Probably a reference to something
We cut to like, one more scene of the documentary, and it's like, back before everything happened, and Corbett and Spruce are packing stuff up in the van, and Spruce asks him, "What do you think is gonna happen tonight on this trip?" And Corbett says, "I think tonight, I really do, I think all of our dreams are going to come true. Does that sound stupid?" And Spruce says, "Yeah." And then there's like, a screen that's like, "In memory of Alan J. Corbett, 1985-2008." He was 23. He was so young!
G: Aw. Poor kid.
C: And yeah, this was another- Yeah, I mean, documentaries do this all the time, but like, this did get me a little bit. I was like, "Aw. Poor kid."
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G: And then we cut away from that to Sam and Dean and every remaining-
C: First high-resolution camera we've seen.
G: Yeah. Every other remaining Ghostfacer looking at the screen and being like, "Isn't that so great?" And Dean is like, "Yeah. It was half awesome." And Maggie was like, "Half only? It was full-on good?" And Sam says what I referenced earlier-
C: No, I thought she meant- I don't think she was offended. She was like, "Oh, you thought it was half awesome? Like, that means that like, half awesome means good, so that means you think that it's good." I think she's just like excited about the compliment, or what she perceives as a compliment.
G: Oh. Yeah. And Sam says like, "Yeah, it's bizarre how you're all able to honor Corbett’s memory while grossly exploiting the manner of his death. Well done!"
C: Go Sam! This is like, more- this is more thinking in this direction than I think Sam usually does. You know what I mean?
G: What do you mean?
C: Like, I know he's not talking about the homophobia. But this like is like- This feels like SJW Sam rights, sort of. [G laughs] You know what I mean?
G: Yeah.
C: Like, that's the vibe, and I like it, but it feels kind of new for this man.
G: And Ed is like, "Yeah. Corbett gave his life searching for the truth, and it's our job to share that truth to everyone." And Sam's like, "Yeah, when you do that, you either go into a straitjacket or get punched in the face. Sometimes both."
C: Which is not true.
G: Yeah.
C: Because in every episode, Sam and Dean reveal to someone new that the supernatural is real, and like literally, no one has been mad at them about it. Like, they're always just like, "Thank you for saving me, you big, strong men." But whatever.
G: Whatevs.
C: Whatevs.
G: Anyway, Dean was like, "Okay. We won't be haters anymore, or whatever. And see you guys around." And then they leave, and then Harry like, "Ugh, those guys are such losers."
C: Yeah. He calls them dicks.
G: Yeah. And then he finds a backpack that was left behind, and he was like, "Oh, these losers left a backpack. Let's open it up." And when he opens it up and brings out something.
C: Like a- it says it's a magnet attached to a battery.
G: I think electric something. Dean calls it something later.
C: Um, electromagnet.
G: Electromagnet. [laughing] Yeah. Well, there's an electromagnet, and it wipes off all the files.
C: Yeah.
G: And we see Sam and Dean walking- well, running to the Impala, and they're like, "Yeah. The world isn't ready for the Ghostfacers." And Dean is like, "Yeah. I mean, I kind of like the show. It's too bad." And Sam was like, "Well, it had its moments." And they drive off with the Ghostfacers theme song.
C: I just- what was the motivation?
G: Of erasing everything?
C: Yeah.
G: To not reveal the supernatural to world.
C: Right. And they're- Well, okay. But their thoughts were just that no one would believe them.
G: No, I think it was more like, "Even if they believe them, what good will that do?" I think a lot, but-
C: Like, really good. It tells them that you can be safe from ghosts by standing inside a salt circle, and it tells people like, how to like, help death echoes move on, which is important for the death echoes and the pain that they experience. It seems like it would be a good thing for people to have seen this footage.
G: Yeah, but it's a major upheaval in the Supernatural lore universe, so they just don't want to deal with it.
C: I- Like what's the upheaval? Like, they don't want to deal with-
G: No, I mean the TV show is what I mean.
C: Oh, fair. Okay, okay. Yeah, I just- I never fucking got that. Wouldn't you want people to know how to defend themselves? Like, I guess it gives Sam and Dean less chances to swoop in and be annoying, but besides that benefit, like, what else?
G: Yeah. Well.
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G: What do we think about this episode overall?
C: I mean, it's- I feel like the shakycam, they could have- it's hard to know what's going on a lot of the time. I felt confused a lot of the time. But, like I was also entertained most of the time, and it's got some very iconic moments, some good physical comedy.
G: It's fun when it's fun.
C: It's fun when it's fun.
G: Best Line/Worst Line.
C: I mean, obviously, "Gay love can pierce through the veil of death and save the day" is the best line.
G: I think that is also the best line.
C: Yeah.
G: Gay love can pierce through the veil of death-
C: - and save the day. And also, obviously, "You gotta go be gay for that poor dead intern" is also the best line, but the veil of death one is more relevant to later Supernatural.
G: I like when Sam was like, [sarcastically "Let's go to the Morton House! It's our Grand Canyon!" I liked that. I don't think it warrants Best Line status, but I like that.
C: I did enjoy that as well. Worst line-
G: What's your worst line? I think the-
C: The Spruce- either of Spruce's main racist lines.
G: I think the the joke of like man being not a gender neutral term.
C: Yeah, that was kind of annoying.
G: I mean, like, it's an outdated joke. There was a time where it was funny, but like nowadays, it's like, "Eh, whatever," you know? So like, maybe it was funny for its time. Now, it's like, "It's okay." It's not that bad, but if I were to choose a worst line, I would choose that one.
C: Yeah. And I already said my worst line.
G: Okay.
C: So spreadsheet time? God, I don't know if we've reached a conclusion yet about how much homophobia is present here.
G: I think I'll give it a 2 in homophobia.
C: Okay. Yeah. I think that makes sense.
G: Just from Dean. [laughs]
C: Just from Dean? Just from the girlfriends line. That's it.
G: Yeah. Dean gets all of this
C: Alright. Misogyny, I think there is a bit. I don't know. It's just hard to tell what is misogynistic because the whole Harry/Maggie situation is so confusing to me that I don't understand what they're going for.
G: I think- if you want, you can give it a one. But like, the whole, I mean- because again, the whole deal of like, "These guys are supposed to be unlikable, so it's not like we're promoting what they're doing."
C: That's true. Yeah, okay. I feel like I'll give it a pass then. Perhaps no misogyny today.
G: Yeah.
C: Racism, there is racism. 1 to 2, I think.
G: I think maybe a 1.
C: Okay. Yup. There we go.
G: How about... oh. What's our-
C: IMDb belief.
G: Yup.
C: I believe this is liked. I'd say it's- I don't know. Like a 9?
G: 9. Okay. Crystal, I hate to break it to you, but this is the lowest-rated episode of season 3, and I've known this for a long time.
C: What?!
G: So you've cemented your answer. It's 9.
C: Oh my god, that's so mean. You're so mean.
G: That's why I was like, shutting up.
C: Okay.
G: I would say this is a 7.8.
C: Okay.
G: Okay, let's check.
It's a 7.6!
C: Damn.
G: Yeah.
C: interesting. Is it just- I guess, did people just really dislike the change in format? Or the fact that like- I guess it happened right after the writers' strike. Like, they'd been off for like, over a month. So I guess it makes sense for people to be disappointed because the whole time they were like, "Oh my god! Supernatural is coming back." And then it's like, something that's very different from the usual format of Supernatural. Is that the problem?
G: All of them are saying it's a Blaire Witch Project ripoff, which, I don't think so. Maybe at that time, that was the only handheld thing, so that's why they were all like, "Oh, it's like Blaire Witch." But nowadays, there's so many handheld camera movie projects or less-
C: I feel like found footage type of stuff, yeah, is pretty normal. I don't know. Okay, I mean, the first two reviews are 10 out of 10 ones. Most of these reviews are positive. [laughing] Wait, sorry.
G: What?
C: Am I on the wrong- I'm not on the wrong one, am I? Am I on the wrong review, because I just read, "Improved, knowing that Castiel loved Dean during this episode"? [G laughing] During this- am I on the wrong page? Oh, I'm on the Ghostfacers TV show!
G: You're what? You're what?
C: I'm on the Ghostfacers TV show. Like, their miniseries, not on the episode. [laughs] Okay. Okay. [both laugh]
G: Literally, everything is improved by knowing that Castiel loved Dean Winchester here.
C: It's still a really funny thing to say regardless, but okay. I'm on the right page now.
G: This one says, "Really? What was that? Supernatural writers, if this is your idea about comedy, please reconsider."
C: Huh. Did they say which parts they found unfunny?
G: They just don't like Ed and Harry. "They were nice on ‘Hell House,’ but they aren't the characters you really would want to bring back. For me, they are one-timers."
C: Interesting. Yeah. One person said that this is disappointing because it follows after “Jus in Bello,” or sorry, I think it's pronounced Yus in Bello or something like that?
G: [sighs] Wait, that's so mean.
C: Whatever.
G: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
C: But okay, so- Which I guess makes sense, because we left off on like that whole Lilith cliffhanger, so it does feel like a big tonal shift to go here, especially since we're like, in the last 4 episodes of the season. But have you considered that I had a fun time?
G: I literally had a fun time! You guys are just mean.
C: Yeah. You guys are just mean. What else?
G: "Not a real episode. You can skip it."
C: Hm.
G: I mean, you can say that about like, a lot of episodes of Supernatural.
C: Yeah. All of the episodes.
"Definitely the worst thing about Supernatural. Couldn't watch the whole thing. Such cringe. Ugh." [laughs] Me about-
G: There are so many review for this one.
C: Yeah, I guess it was quite polarizing, which makes sense.
Someone said about this, "That Jared sure can act"? [G laughs] What did Sam do in this episode?
G: Well, he looked good.
C: Sure, yeah. He looked good.
G: I feel like Sam is finally going turning into Sam of later seasons. Starting like, second half of season 3. Like, he doesn't feel like Sammy anymore.
C: Ah, yeah, I understand what you mean. Yeah.
G: He's becoming disillusioned and scared and like, yeah, all that stuff.
C: Yeah.
G: Like, the way he sighed before telling the Ghostfacers what a ghost- or what a death echo is, I was like, "Oh, that's Sam! That's like, old Sam."
C: Yeah. Huh.
G: Oh, I'm so sad. I just remember that he dies when- well, he dies old as fuck. He was like, 35 when we leave him.
C: Yeah.
G: Something stupid like that. 38. Ugh! Sammmm! Sam!
C: Sam. Yeah.
G: Anyway, we've been recording so long.
C: Oh shit, have we? Oh yeah, we have.
G: So goodbye, everyone. [both laugh]
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A thing for the AU where Hobble is in the BI, for For the Future. Its copy pasted from Discord so that's why the formatting is weird.
so Hobble wasn't able to help fight because she didn't know any useful defensive magic she kept the kids herded inside away from it and that thing happened where Bump and all the other teachers got puppetfied and spirited away so now she's in charge, being the only adult left so yeah, no Boscha leader bullshit BUT Boscha's still gonna be herself 💀 Plus Kikimora/Micky, who's TRYING to get Boscha to try and take Hobble's place in one way or another Hobble's probably only seen Kikimora once or twice the entire time in the BI and forgotten about her existence, plus there'd be more of Kikimora's type, so she's not going to think its her the whole thing with food and supplies, Hobble's doing her best to run things with it and Boscha's part of the squad that goes out for it and obvs Boscha's still suffering mentally from seeing her friends being taken away like that She and Hobble start butting heads over things (thanks to Mickey's needling) and Boscha goes a bit too far with disagreeing with Hobble's methods Says something about her being useless and that's why her ass is inside the school all day instead of out helping with resources Hobble boutta throw hands with a fifteen year old she straight up called her USELESS brings up how Hobble wasn't out helping fight during the initial incident that took the rest of the adults. That REALLY upsets Hobble because she wanted to help as much as she could, and she's doing all she can now.
"Do you think I WANT to send you and everyone out!? Knowing those things are out there, and that you may never come back at all!?"
Hobble's doing the best she can, and she understands why Boscha's upset everyone's going through a hard as hell time, not seeing their families, not knowing if they're okay Plus Boscha losing her friends Hobble's barely keeping it together herself but she's got to its not easy to plan things out when you have those scary skulking stars and that weirdo space kid that caused all this in the first place Hobble's tried to make it as safe as possible too, like, giving a limited range of where the ones who get resources can go Being firm on them not risking their lives by going any further it gets to where she does have to let them wander out farther once all the resources closer to the school get used up the really difficult part is dealing with the ones who get sick/badly hurt and there's limits to what a bunch of kids are able to do in terms of healing Hobble too isn't doing too well, given the whole food situation She's stretching out what little human-safe food there is She's barely sleeping either, she joins the older kids on patrol at night I wanna design her puppetized at one point but if that actually DOES happen or not in this AU's canon 🤷‍♂️
UEUEEUUE I LOVE THIS SM!!
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tuiyla · 1 year
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Do you think Glee would have changed for the better if it had been a cable show instead of a network one? If there were less episodes, I tend to think the characters would stay more consistent, there'd be less plotlines that went nowhere (though that's not a given, eg AHS from RM himself) and most of the songs would service the story. However, I'm not sure there'd be enough time for a minor character like Santana to stand out and eventually grow in prominence, so idk. Thoughts?
I'm not sure Glee's a show that would have benefitted from fewer episodes. The structure of tributes and lessons of the week in-between openers, closers and competition episodes works well. Sure, the theme is sometimes forced and the show devolves into trying to cover any and all social issues, but the 22-episode format works. Glee, at its best, is a true ensemble. You simply cannot be an ensemble with this many cast members under 10 or so episodes. And I'm not saying Glee was actually a true ensemble most of the time, but the traditional 22-episode network TV season at least presented that opportunity.
I'm not sure fewer episodes would have helped with consistency. Sure, maybe less padding and fewer storylines going nowhere but if it's still the same writers, the constraint of the shorter season is only going to help them so much. And maybe it would result in slightly tighter storytelling, but we just wouldn't get the same Glee Club with the same themes and tributes and most definitely not the same attention paid to members other than Finchel, maybe Kurt and to a lesser extent Puck and Quinn (and Will ofc). I'd personally take a network Glee season with horrible inconsistencies and dropped storylines but with my Santana and Brittany and Mercedes over a potentially better written story that's just about Finchel and Will.
I think it's generous to assume that the songs would serve the story better just because they would have less times and fewer songs to work with. What I see happening is them keeping the Finchel features and Rachel ballads and cutting down on the already disproportionate ratio of the rest of the club. Which, again, no thank you.
Cable also has an altogether different vibe, especially in 2009. Glee's blend of comedy and drama, more so drama and camp than satire as it went on, just wouldn't work as a cable show. Or, well, I guess that's a big topic to get into but they'd be under more pressure to "choose" and let's be honest, they wouldn't choose prestige TV. And yeah, like you say, the natural progression of chs like Santana is inherent to how Glee was filmed. To those 22 episode early seasons, to how there was space for her to grow into. Or, rather, in Santana/Naya's case, an opportunity for her to make that space. Organic growth and spontaneity happens in cable but idk if it would have happened here.
I have a now year-old post that I often like to link back to, a) because no one has read it lol and b) because it explores the ways in which I think Glee's problems could have been solved. I.e. restructuring in how it approaches the cast, songs, etc. And maybe there's a cable version, but I just think network and the 22-episode season was the way to go for Glee. But just saying that as someone who doesn't like the more limited (and limiting) focus of season 1 and would not have liked Glee as a movie (because it would just been season 1A but even less inclined to feature the more minor characters).
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abstract-crossverse · 3 years
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*slides in epicly*
what if tricky x reader angst ((dunno wut angst tho but i just feel like shareing angst ideas))
OOOOO okay, I might have an idea! Also the hc part of this is with pre-zombie!Tricky
2022 edit: format change, colored text, while this one is still not very lore accurate, I like it the way it is
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"Leaving wasnt a Good Idea" [Tricky x Reader, fic, angst to fluff]
→ Last time you were in your home town, you had seen on the news that some guy named Hank killed about 32 people at the local park, and that made Tricky's paranoia shoot into the sky
→ Unfortunately, your boss sent you a few towns over to take care of some work stuff right after those news, poor clown boy was scared for your safety...
→ You went either way, and everything was fine for some time, you and Tricky would send messages to each other everyday when you got to your hotel room... Until one day he stopped replying all together...
→ Concerned, you called your boss, saying that there'd an emergency back home and that you had to go before your actual time to go home, thankfully they agreed and you went home
→ Passing many dead bodies and the waste land that was once your home, you arrived at your shared house...
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"Tricky, I'm home!" You yelled as you closed the door behind you, waiting for a response, only to get silence in return
"Tricky? Sweetheart?" You began searching the house, 'is he not home yet? Usually he home by now..' you thought as you opened door by door of your house until you were about to open the door to your shared bedroom
You heard muffled sobs, sobs that you knew all too well
Opening the door slowly you peered in, there you saw Tricky sitting on the corner of the room, crying and... Was his skin green?-
You slowly approached you lover "Tricky, love?" He snapped his head up to you, his face was green, and the blue smile that you loved was starting to decay, leaving merely muscle and teeth behind, the wounds on his chest was what scared you more though
You gasped softly and kneeled down to his trembling form "Honey, what happened?!" You questioned, trying not to raise your voice too much, he lunged forward and trapped you in a hug "Clo- I-I thought y-ou were gOne..." Was all he managed to say, his voice wavery and raspy from crying, changing pitches for whatever reason, not to mention he was shaking like crazy
You hugged him back "I'd never, now tell me, what happened to you?" You said as you slowly rubbed circles on his back, he sniffled and let go, still shaking "w-well.. the S-Sheriff hired me to kill off that guy from the n-nEWs, b-but..." He pointed to the wounds on his body and broke down into more tears
"I-I thought I'd lose y-you... But I-I-I came back..." You hugged him as you finished, he seemed to tense for a moment, but instantly hugged you back "my god... You must be in so much pain..."
Breaking apart the hug, you carefully raised him up "Let's go patch up those wounds, yeah?" He nodded as you both left the room
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You were treating his wounds in the bathroom, he had stopped crying for a few minutes now, but his constant shaking made it hard for you to patch him up, he explained how he couldn't help it and it was an effect of whatever brought him back
You didn't blame him in the first place, but you did feel horrible for leaving him alone like this, when he must've been so scared
You eventually finished "so, what are we going to do now?" He put on his shirt "I-I'm not sure, but Cl- I know that I'm gonna finish off that asshole..." You noticed his slips on his words, was another effect making him want to refer to himself in 3rd person?
"Isn't that dangerous though? I don't want to lose you..." You took his hands, rubbing small circles on the back of his hands "It might be, but even if I'm undead now, I-I at least want to finish the job I was assigned to.." he looked down at your hands with anger in his eyes
But right after he swooped you off your feet, carrying you bridal style, you yelped in surprise
"But as of now, I want to make due of cuddle hours!" His playful demeanor was finally back, you chuckled as he carried you back to your shared bedroom
You can assure yourself that the Tricky you know and love, will always be there for you like you were for him
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Yay this was f u n to write, Tricky our beloved
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