#Web Audience

[deermouth]

Scavengers Reign (Joseph Bennett, Charles Huettner, 2023) // The Southern Reach Trilogy, from Authority and Acceptance (Jeff VanderMeer, 2014)

#scavengers reign #southern reach #southern reach trilogy #scavengers reign spoilers #web weaving #comparatives #<- idk which tag im using now #authority #acceptance #jeff vandermeer #who's the audience for this. just me? well. :^) #desc in alt text #oh i suppose mr vandermeer might be the audience for this as he was tweeting about the show. but uhhhhhhh

[heartscrypt]

the web - fear of manipulation and lost control made manifest

#twst #twisted wonderland #jamil viper #kalim al asim #twst tma au #tma #heartscribbles #dont tag as ship #honestly this piece stands alone w/o the tma au tag but i just want it there for context #but for the very niche audience of tma twst people im sure you all understand me when i say jamil is SOOOOO webcoded #i have a lot of thoughts on a twst tma au that will probably come out later #most of them center around web!jamil tbh #there is something incredibly funny about aligning (guy with horrid fear of all bugs ever) with (spider themed fear god) #i will keep doing it

[argesta]

antlers, angels & wings true detective (2014) / william blake / robert w. chambers / stevenson memorial, abbott handerson thayer / disco elysium / true detective, unreleased pilot script

#making this for a round number of 3 people but by fuck i know my target audience #i have GOT to clear my yellow king drafts its insanity in there #actual grounds to get wellness checked #and i have to make room for new ones so #this is what we get this is the food #true detective #rust cohle #marty hart #webweaving #web weave #carcosa #the yellow king #h #its literally carcosa-only hours in here thats all im gonna put out here in this beautiful spring #intricate rituals <3

[fumifooms]

Dad always said I was like him

Meijack and Chilchuck Tims Dungeon Meshi, Ryoko Kui

^ 1: Moony moonless sky, Fatima Aamer Bilal / 2: Bug like an angel, Mitski / 3: Woodtangle, Mary Ruefle / 4: The Third Hour of the Night, Frank Bidart / 5 & 6: FROM THE MAKERS OF "TWO-MOM ENERGY DRINK," IT'S "LET YOUR FATHER DIE ENERGY DRINK,", Daniel Lavery & Cecilia Corrigan / 7: Batman: Year Three (1989) / 8 & 9 : FROM THE MAKERS OF […], Daniel Lavery & Cecilia Corrigan / 10: Wilt, CJ the X / 11: How Do We Forgive Our Fathers, Dick Lourie / 12: Milk and honey, Rupi Kaur / 13: / 14: Moony moonless sky, Fatima Aamer Bilal / 15: Someday I’ll Love Ocean Vuong, Ocean Vuong / 16: untitled, joan tierney v 17: Drunk, The Living Tombstone / 18: unknown

When your father tried his best to provide for you but he worked all the time and even when he was home he was either tired or stressed and he’s always liked to get drunk to relax and cheer up. When you know he values work ethics and respectability so you grew up to be capable and quiet. And when he says you’re like him you’re sort of puzzled, does he really know you so little, or does he know himself so little? But you like the feeling of your father ruffling your hair so you accept it, and still you stand next to your mother just as silent and just as stoic as her during family gatherings. He leaves again and again and when your mother leaves him nothing changes, really. You wonder if it’s more telling that you know him better than he seems to himself or that you don’t know him as much as you wish you did, or that you don’t think about him all that much these days. Out of sight, out of mind. And he’s never really been there, even when he was there, after all.

#It’s ok they do get in touch again and he prob at least lives to 40 #Alright I’m ready to be normal about chilchuck again #Spoilers #I guess? #dungeon meshi #chilchuck tims #meijack #chilchuck’s family #meijack chils #Web weaving #alcoholism #cw alcohol #webweave #A couple more i liked are a rearview mirror we’re not as close as we appear line and this french one from #Kristina Gauthier-Landry that goes like hands full of trout running up to you / look what i caught look / how much you love me #And this other one about chocolate coins that a dad arriving from work in middle of the night gives the happy little daughter running up #And it’s so anticlimatic and about transactional relationships and oughh ough it’s a good book #I am Chil is a complex absentee father truther sorry. Idc go see my analyses if you want don’t argue w me here #posts for which i am the target audience #Oh oh another one : So were we close? Or was it just the big things that held us together and the small things that let us fall apart? #The word father rotted in my mouth #Bc it’s left there to rot get it get it……….. #Sigh. Like father alike daughter #I’m a truther that she’s more like her mom demeanor wise

[leulah]

on sansa and petyr

daddy issues, the neighborhood // asos - sansa v // agustin gomez arcos, the carnivorous lamb // ask me anything (2014) // asos - sansa vii // alisson wood, being lolita: a memoir // the disappearance of the girl, phildel // affc - sansa i // the jewish bride, rembrandt // @/rotgospels // twow - alayne i // vladimir nabokov, lolita // romeo and juliet (1968) // asos - sansa vi // her, poppy // azar nafisi, reading lolita in tehran: a memoir in books // ? // alisson wood, being lolita: a memoir // affc - sansa i

#*turns to audience* is this anything #sansa stark #alayne stone #petyr baelish #valyrianscrolls #web weaving #lolita #a storm of swords #a feast for crows #asoiaf #sansa x petyr is sooo lolita core (derogatory) #SHE HAD ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE ELSE TO GO #mine

[basicallyyjustdogs]

I wanna be roadkill Find me a mile up ahead Lying there on the roadside Say, don’t worry now, it’s already dead

series 1: roadkill/longing

roadkill, searows // cyanotypes, emilio hernandez martin // hard times, ethel cain // child wearing a red scarf, eduoard vuillard // empty stomach, rachel sabini // thirstiness is not equal division, kaveh akbar // salvage, hedgie choi // ‘deer at night’, george shiras III // kinder than man, athea davis // best barbarian, roger reeves // ‘johannes land, suite no.2’, simon bang // my photograph // postcolonial love poem, natalie diaz // the dislocated room, richard siken // the moon rose over the bay. I had a lot of feelings, donika kelly // abstract (psychopomp), hozier // miniatures, cassandra de alba // from collected poems; between aging and old, jack gilbert // the favourite (2018), dir. yorgos lanthimos // unidad (oneness), pablo neruda // least of all, natalie wee

#series 1: roadkill/longing #web weaving #this completely took over my mind for the past two days #and it's far too long and somewhat non-cohesive to anyone but me #but I am my own audience #searows #ethel cain #kaveh akbar #richard siken #natalie diaz #donika kelly #hozier #pablo neruda

[hoofpeet]

I'd probably have to read the printed version and web version back to back at some point to note all the differences but... ough

#sorry i'm going to be excited about this comic for the next month #nofna #okay having finished this now-- #and sorry if this doesn't make sense to anyone who's completely unfamiliar with this comic in advance- #the 'popcorn ending' (printed version) is nice to see but i think the web version hits harder. if that makes sense #so i'm kinda tied on which ending i 'prefer'- i think both are good though #also considering i've read the web version a good 4-5 times and the printed version only once- i probably can't make that judgement yet #easy answer- i do like Nutsedge :] so it's nice to see the ending where nothing bad happens to her #but also- NT suddenly becoming a greenie-esque villain out of nowhere felt a little jarring #as well as SV suddenly turning a corner and becoming a 'good guy' (arguable)- considering the first three books are about #/him being too stubborn to change or accept any outside worldviews . Him suddenly coming to his senses felt out of place #<- probably biased because i like characters being bitter to the end and ultimately destroyed by their own hubris #the web version is probably‚ objectively‚ a bit better #but - #(spoilers- if you're planning to drop ~70 bucks on getting these books) #the conceit of SV actually perfecting his style‚ using it once‚ and then immediately getting tooth-brained- was pretty cool #assuming it's meant to parallel him spending months tormented by trying to perfect it while something's still missing- #and then dying before he can narrate it to the audience‚ so that we never know what he figured out. #hard to articulate these thoughts but tl;dr- popcorn ending also had a lot to think about

[padmestrilogy]

padme amidala as wendy torrence

first known depiction of anakin and padme for a cancelled cards game (1993) / the shining (1980) / revenge of the sith (2005) / the shining post-production script / revenge of the sith first draft

#the audience for this is so niche it’s just me i think #padme amidala #wendy torrence #web weaving #revenge of the sith #the shining #padme #prequel trilogy #star wars #star wars parallels #star wars edit

[modmad]

TPoH: Update!

Sorry for the LONG delay due to catching covid. I am still recovering from it, so I do not know if I will be updating weekly again yet but I will post the comic whenever I can. Thank you all so much for your support and kindness during this time!

Read TPoH from the start here.

Update here on the TPoH website!

Thank you all  for the kind and loving support! If you want to buy books of this comic YOU CAN! Volumes one and two AND THREE are now in stock and you can get even more books in the form of TPatJ and Unbecoming! Find them and more here in the TPoH Topatoco shop right here, or tell your friends about it! There are also always lots of my doodles to buy on nice stuff in my Society6 merch box too!

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#TPoH #the property of hate #web comic #RGB #Hero #TPoH update #sorry kind of a boring page #I cheated uh I mean ADAPTED the page to a one panel so I could update instead of suffering #and wouldn't you know it it balances out the hideous amount of recap dialogue #(don't you hate pages like this. I do) #(but hey sometimes you gotta remind the audience about things you drew 7 years ago)

[its-your-mind]

absolutely disgusting. unfollowing him now. I thought he was a pirate but it turns out that he’s never been to Boston in the fall.

#veggietales #the pirates who don't do anything #I’ve seen enough posts on this webbed site about veggietales to know that all these jokes I’ve been saving up have an AUDIENCE

[l-just-want-to-see]

United States Junior Gymnastic Team of ‘88-‘89

Catherine Todd née Johnson & Mary Grayson née Lloyd: I hope we meet again (I’m letting you go)

@kindlespark / The Book Thief, Markus Zusak / ? / dc comics / Diary, Chuck Palahniuk / Infinite Jest, David Foster Wallace / Always Gold, Radical Face / Us Against You, Fredrik Backman / @inanotherunivrse / I Wanted to Leave, SYML / ? / ? / Psychogeography, Chelsea Dingman / @leonardospoetry + me / On Earth We’re Briefly Gorgeous, Ocean Vuong / Past Lives (2023) / A Letter to Love, Caitlyn Siehl / @archivegeo / In a Dream You Saw a Way to Survive, Clementine von Radics / Always Gold, Radical Face / Dorothea, Taylor Swift / Stand by Me (1986) / dc comics + On Earth We’re Briefly Gorgeous, Ocean Vuong / Life After Death, Laura Gilpin / Lost Without You, Freya Ridings

#target audience: me #but come on guys. Catherine loves her people and her city and her home and her books. And Mary needs to leave. To fly. To perform. #like not only is it a fascinating relationship between two characters regardless it’s also really interesting through the lens of Jason and #Dick as brothers. #Because yeah Dick can’t stay in Gotham and Jason will always be coming back #But at least they found each other again I suppose #At least they have that #Jason Todd #dick grayson #mary grayson #catherine todd #dc comics #batfamily #web weaving #anyways I hope this isn’t too confusing and feels like a dialogue. Also I tried to incorporate writing/books/stories on Catherine’s end #And flying/weather/space on Mary’s

[fortjester]

“I’d like to play you another song about suicidal depression. It’s about – if you are a certain type of person – me – . . . uh, you hear about somebody who did something horrible and drastic and you feel bad, but there’s a part of you that goes, ‘what, that’s, now I know, now I recognize my kind, because he did that.’ So this is about a guy who did a terrible thing and he couldn’t live with the memory of it, and so he went and did a worse thing, and it’s called ‘Cry for Judas.’”

- John Darnielle, frontman of the Mountain Goats

#fuck off lou #my post #hs #homestuck #parallels #web weaving #music #song lyrics #the mountain goats #Dave Strider #Dirk Strider #Lil Hal #John Egbert #Aradia Megido #Rose Lalonde #Bro Strider #Jane Crocker #k look. this song came on while i was driving to work yesterday and i legitimately got kinda upset bc it made me think of them #strider bros song of all time #and yes i am aware of how overwraught and angsty this is. i do not care #i dont know how to make web weaving posts any other way #so you're getting melodramatic strider content. thanks for reading #anyway #also this is my first time attempting proper image alt text so i am so sorry if it sucks #im just gonna trust that this post will reach its target audience somehow #its in fates hands now

[strrenmeisje]

(little beast, richard siken + tingeltangelhersenpan, spinvis)

#theres no audience for this but i don’t care #poezie #poetry #richard siken #spinvis #dutchblr #web weaving #dutch poetry #posts

[lovethatlaiduslow]

these are my words, this is my mouth.

mary magdalene, jan boeckhorst + vessel, dry the river

#dry the river posting for an audience of 2 #lyric edit #web weaving #dry the river

[fumifooms]

#Marchil #posts for which i am the target audience #Compilation #not really but kinda #Some of my favorite meaningless casual crumbs #Featuring Izu daughter #With the second op smiles there could be soo much fun web weaving composition to do there ohhhh -rubs my hands together evilly- #I am planning an actual comp on marci chil and izu being a lil family btw they’re so cute #I forgot that the context for this post is important lmao. Oh well

[bidokja]

I was joking a while back that the actor they have playing KDJ for the orv movie was too handsome for him and a friend who's read orv was like "KDJ is actually secretly attractive!!" And I just felt my soul leave my body right then

SIGHS...

Okay. Buckle in. I'm gonna finally actually address and explain and theorize about this whole...thing.

I'm not gonna cite any exact chapters cause it's like 11:30 and I've got an 8 hour drive in the morning but I'll at least make an approximate reference to where certain things are mentioned. Also, this post is just my personal interpretation for a good bit of it, but it's an interpretation I feel very solid about, so do with that what you will. Moving on to the meat of things:

There is one (1) instance in the web novel that I know of which describes specific features of Kim Dokja (especially ones other people notice). This takes place when members of KimCom are trying to make Kim Dokja presentable to give his speech at the Industrial Complex (after it's been plopped down on Earth). This is when they start really paying attention and focusing on Kim Dokja's appearance since they're putting makeup on him; I still don't think they can interpret his whole face, but they can accurately pick out and retain more features than usual. If I remember correctly they reference him having long eyelashes, smooth skin, and soft hair. These features can be viewed as (stereotypically) attractive.

Certain parts of the fandom have taken this scene and run with it at a very surface level, without realizing (or without acknowledging at the very least) that this scene is not about how Kim Dokja looks. This is, in part, due to not realizing or acknowledging why Kim Dokja's face is "censored" in the first place, and what that censoring actually means. I think it's also possible that some people are assuming the censorship works like a physical phenomena rather than an altered perception.

I'll address that last point first. The censorship of Kim Dokja's features is not something as simple as a physical phenomena. It's not a bar or scribble or mosaic over his face. If that were true it'd be very obvious to anyone looking at him that his face is hidden. But his face is not hidden to people. They can look at him and see a face. If they concentrate on his eyes, they can see where he's looking. They know when he's frowning or grinning. They see a face loud and clear. But what face are they seeing? Because it's not really his, whatever they're seeing.

No one quite agrees on what he really looks like. And if they try and think about what he looks like, they can't recall. Or if they do, it's vague, or different each time. We notice these little details throughout the series. Basically, Kim Dokja's face is cognitively obscured. Something - likely the Fourth Wall, though I can't recall if this is ever stated outright - is interfering with everyone's ability to perceive him properly. This culminated in him feeling off to others; and since they don't even realize this is happening, they surmise that he is "ugly."

Moving on to the other point about what the censorship means: To be blunt, the censorship of his face is an allegory for his disconnect from the "story" (aka: real life, and the real people at his side). The lifting - however slight - of this censorship represents him becoming more and more a part of the "story" (aka: less disconnected from the life he is living and the people at his side). The censorship's existence and lifting can represent other things - like dissociation or depersonalization or, if you want to get really meta, the fact that he is all of our faces at once - but that's how I'd sum up the main premise of it. (The Fourth Wall is a larger part of the dissociation allegory, but that's for another post).

So you see, them noticing his individual features isn't about the features. It's not about the features! It doesn't matter at all which features got listed. Because they could describe any features whatsoever and it would not change the entire point of the scene. Because the point isn't what he looks like. The point is that they can truly and clearly see these features. For the first time. They are seeing parts of him for the first time. Re-read that sentence multiple times, literally and metaphorically. What does it mean to see someone as they are?

This is an extremely significant turning point dressed up as a dress-up scene.

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P.S. / Additionally, I'm of the opinion that Kim Dokja is not handsome, and he is not ugly. He is not pretty, and he is not ghastly. Not attractive, nor unattractive. Kim Dokja isn't any of these things. More importantly, Kim Dokja can't be any of these things. The entire point of Kim Dokja is that you cannot pick him out of a crowd; he is the crowd. He's a reader. He's the reader. Why does he need to be handsome? Why must he be pretty? Why is him being attractive necessary or relevant? He doesn't, he doesn't, it's not. He is someone deeply deeply loved and irreplaceable to those around him, and someone who cannot even begin to recognize or accept that unless it's through a love letter masquerading as a story he can read. He is the crowd, a reader, the reader. He's you, he's me. He's every single one of us.

#orv #orv analysis #orv meta #orv spoilers #mine #ask #there's also the meta that he is described with these (stereotypically) pretty features as they are about to try and 'sell' him to a crowd #which feels to me like a very pointed way to convey how 'beauty' is commodified. how audiences like 'attractive' characters more #note: made some edits to add in a couple of sentences my brain forgot in the moment so make sure u reblogged those if u do #tag edits for further commentary that isnt strictly relevant to the point i was making: #do i think that this face censorship was executed as well as it could have been? nah. #not that it was like. done Badly. it's followed through to a certain point. its established enough for me to make this post at least. #but i do think it is the one thing in the web novel that SS didn't capitalize on. #like. they still stuck the landing but it was not as picture perfect of an execution as the rest of the metaphorical stuff in orv #also. this (not the face censorship specifically but the 'hes just some guy' point of it all) is one of the big reasons i think that- #-visual adaptions of orv can never quite work. they can do the best that they can with that medium but a lot of nuance is lost- #-simply by virtue of it being a visual medium #i personally think the only way a visual medium could work would be one where they commit to the power move of not showing kdj's face #(until a certain point (of view) that is) #his face is always facing away or out of frame or hidden by someone or something else in the way #commit to the fucking allegory or simply perish