#and imo. it's getting worse.

[asharaks]

romance as part of the video game zeitgeist is. really interesting to me. because it is important! it's a great way to introduce depth and dimension to both character and story: it allows you as a writer to explore other sides of the characters, how they react when their feelings for a character change and develop, how they treat the player character in relation to their own goals and the ways they approach their own feelings. most games (at least, games that aren't specifically of the romance genre, ie otomes/dating sims) allow platonic routes, and while I'd love to see more bestie mechanics implemented (you have a favourite guy who is your closest friend and the game acknowledges this even if it's not romantic) i get that there's issues with scope, and deadlines, and the feasability of inputting everything that I personally would enjoy. i get it.

but. but! it is that. romance is a way to deepen the characterisation, to increase the investment in the story. from a cynical perspective, it is a way to draw in an audience, and i've discussed my feelings about how and how well larian do this before, but - it is a means to an end. it is a part of the story: it is not the story. this is not a romance game. this is a game with a story that is, and should be, unaffected by romance - the individual character arcs, sure, but the overarching plot continues regardless of your marital status, and the characters still deserve complete arcs whether they're of romantic interest to the player or not.

prioritising romance and romantic scenes over other content is one thing; prioritising romance over bugfixing, plot holes, adequate content is, put simply, poor management. the game, and each character arc, should be able to stand alone without romance; alternatively, if you're going to market it as a romance-heavy game, with a focus on romance, it is plain and simple Failure not to provide romance content in equal measure for every character. it can't be a dating sim for astarion and not for wyll; it shouldn't be a romance-centric game for shadowheart and a story-focused game for lae'zel. you can't have it both ways: if it's a romance game, it fails to provide adequate romance content for all characters, and if it's a story game, it fails to prioritise the role each character plays appropriately. I think it's a shame, and I think it's understandable - they've tried to cover all their bases, and neglected both in the process, and the game had deadlines and was released unfinished, but it's been more than six months, and the game remains woefully incomplete in many aspects.

#and imo. it's getting worse. #some of their decisions. woof #like idk ik it's not that deep and the My Favourite Dating Sim thing is a joke but #the way writers choose to integrate and support romance is very Telling I think #bg3 #larian critical #I guess. #bg3 meta

[aeide-thea]

Stained glass by Constantine Woolnough, 1858 Church of St Mary, Dennington, Suffolk Photography by Simon Knott

#christianity cw #constantine woolnough #stained glass #photography #simon knott #saw another post with what was imo a worse picture of one of these windows and wanted to add the second one #absolutely stunning work imo #(the eternal tension of μέν hating & fearing most forms of christianity qua violent smothering institution #while also δέ really loving a lot of the art & architecture that sprang from it & is inextricably linked with it…) #(like. love me a good church. do not want to get anywhere near one unless it's empty.) #anyway. pls enjoy these windows.

[eggwishing]

short & stout rose And awkward and gangly dave >>>> i think rose would move with a ferocity like she could accidwntally bump her elbow onto the corner of a table and the table would crumble . dave posture’d be so rigid that he’d fall like a tree and shatter like glass from a light breeze

#dave strider #rose lalonde #homestuck #im gonna yap more abt my drawings ive been restrained for too long thinking people wouldnt care😤😤 #my friends at school building up my confidence for better or for worse lol #i have thoughts!! things 2 say!!! not a lot but hopefully getting out the things i do have will make room for more…^_^ #anyways #daveis just egon schiele art to me now #discomfort of tha body ……. Davesprite would be even worse imo #this also means dirk is a short king. and roxy would tower over him LMAO #dirk the shortest in the entire group #i need to draw egbert n jade more😢😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨im sorryyyyyyyyyyy #hits post shyly

[bonefall]

Maybe I'll make a post on this at some point but like, something deeply fucked up about TNP and Po3 that people have totally forgotten about is how badly they try to whine that "Tigerstar Had Good Traits :("

Firestar does it, Brambleclaw does it, and they keep doing this after it becomes this GRAND irony that Firestar almost gets Tiger'd to death in a fox trap because he was too trusting. Bramble gets his pity award of keeping deputyship and then cries to his son about how No One Saw The Good In Tigerstar :(

And it's wiiiiild that no one else in this fandom has done anything with the fact that Leopardstar broke the Warrior Code to appoint Hawkfrost, who had no apprentice, an extremely aggressive and warmongering Tigerclone who says things like "Tigerstar wasn't the worst cat to look up to." ONLY qualifying trait was being kinda like Tigerstar.

And she practically did that the SECOND Mistyfoot went missing. And then Leopardstar continued to be one of the most violent and xenophobic leaders through Po3, joining with WindClan to attack ThunderClan.

What I'm getting at is that like, a few years ago, with books like "Blackfoot's Reckoning" and "Shadow in RiverClan" it's like they suddenly decided to retcon in a bunch of "redemption arcs" in hindsight. They just pretended like there was this grand high reckoning with TigerClan, when there literally wasn't, and if anything that caused SERIOUS problems for the cast that the authors didn't fully acknowledge as such.

And now ppl haven't actually read the main series and are just working with their recent memory of all these retcon books.

But TNP and PO3 are still there, and you can go and see the ACTUAL timeline where Leopardstar is really not apologetic at all, and Blackstar is a useful stooge for the very next wannabe dictator that strolls in, in spite of the new side content that COMPLETELY mischaracterized them for their plots to work.

#I just wish people could be more critical of this #And im not entirely anti-retcon. Mind you #But I am here because i think these retcons make them WORSE characters. It's BAD for a character to GET a book with a redemption arc and-- #Then they don't change at all and act like totally different people later in the timeline #And Leopardstar is the worse one between her and Blackstar BECAUSE she has sooo many active choices here #Im confident in my choice for BB the more I think about it. Leopardstar's dismantling of the bonehill was good #But it works better as a tragedy imo with the rest of the series in mind #That for a brief moment. A fleeting whim. She could have changed. #But she never did. #And Blackstar who was FAR less repentant at the time DID eventually turn around. #At the end of the day one of them appointed Hawkfrost as codebreaking deputy. #And the other did not. #And I think it's fucking bullshit the way that Leopardstar's retcondemption implies that Hawkfrost was just so tricky he mislead her #The old and experienced leader who had been fooled by a tiger before and was soso sorry for it. Just got tricked. #Like fuck off. She never had a redemption. Stop trying to tell me she did 15 years later #She's a girlboss who empires too close to the sun in pursuit of power and drags everyone down with her #Not a sad weepy smolbean #Bone babble #Warrior cats analysis

[shkika]

NSH seems to care about Moon a lot. When he found out that Pebbles is the reason that she collapsed, how do you think he reacted?

We actually do have a guess on how NSH felt towards Pebbles even before the whole incident. He and Moon were close and he does very much care for her!

Which is why he used to be kind of annoyed with Pebbles. Because FP never seemed to appreciate her efforts.

He understands how newer iterators tend to have flawed worldviews, yet to him Pebbles was stuck being like that.

I don't think NSH ever hard particularly warm feelings towards Moon's little brother if I were to be honest.

So then.. they only worsen.

I think this says... quite a lot! His words aren't outright hateful, but they do make it clear he genuinely hopes once Pebbles' head finally clears, he suffers the consequences of his actions.

Iirc I hope I'm not wrong his dialogue with Suns show that his worries regarding Moon's conditions, not really mentioning all that much about Pebbles' rot. He even goes out to say Suns should have sent the messenger to her. Not him.

As a little addition.. I'd like to think NSH looked very.. bitterly through old messages between him and Moon about her troubles with Five Pebbles.

Like he wishes he could be surprised.

#rainworld #rain world #my art #no significant harassment #seven red suns #iterators #kiki rambles #sad sad robots #imo he and pebbles were never all that close #so really things could only get worse #ask #anonymous

[comradeboyhalo]

unstoppable force vs immovable object: forever growing up with brothers and knowing exactly how to annoy someone vs bbh the strongest soldier after his youtube streams were auditory hell for two years

#qsmp #none of forevers parodies have (so far) been as bad imo #but we can always get worse :D

[merethicera]

Which intellectual property do we think Bethesda's done the most damage to over the years?

#tes #fallout #the elder scrolls #fnv #skyrim #crossposting so fallout fans get a say. i dont rly have a fair audience bias as a tes blog obviously but i am interested in whether tes #fans think fallout got it worse or not #which like. imo it did fallout 3 and 4 are narrative war crimes that shit all over the series' core message

[deevotee]

a pet peeve of mine is when ppl/creators say asexual when they mean aroace, i know its expecting a lot of the average person but man i wish people would use the word aromantic more i cant help it

like i totally adore aro, ace, and aroace characters yes more please but i just wish people would use the correct terms cuz then people will ship these asexual characters romantically and people will get mad at them or (ive seen it more rarely but) people will write aromantic characters having sex and people will get mad at them like babes they are two different things! a person can be both absolutely but i, as an arospec person who is not asexual in any way and feel stupid amounts of sexual attraction, am here to tell you that you need to differentiate sometimes like ill give you a handy guide

arospec/aromantic = not feeling/rarely feeling romantic attraction

acespec/asexual = not feeling/rarely feeling sexual attraction

aroace = both

there are combinations and complexities and each real person is going to describe themselves differently, but stop acting as if people with romantic headcanons for ace characters or sexual headcanons for aro characters are bad people because theyre not

#honestly imo i think any headcanons for any characters are fine #cuz fandom is not canon and will not ever be #and you can easily block ppl/tags you dont like #but some stuff people get mad about is just nonsensical to me #and the ways terms are used even by creators who just clearly #havent done any research into aro and ace identities is even worse #anyways this was kickstarted by a couple things ive seen around #but i finally figured id just make this post #aromantic #asexual #queer stuff #devo speaks

[lesbianwithchainsaws]

Gasleak year aside, I want to thank season 4 for giving us as much trobed content as it did. I mean, we got Jeff and Britta referring to them as boyfriends. We got Conventions of Space and Time. We got Basic Human Anatomy. We got the puppet episode and every post ever about it is just "yeah, Abed had a secret and he said he's in love with Troy". It showed that Britta and Troy didnt work as a couple and broke them up. We got "you were out there and you weren't looking for me?". It was trobeds season

#also I'll fully admit that i think s6 is worse than s4 so i dont even hate it as much #but i get that the episodes are still not that great #tbh i think a lot of the s4 episodes could've been good if they were just developed more and didnt have weird character moments #imo several episodes feel more like early drafts than finished episodes #anyway i doubt anyone needs my full review of s4 lmao #nbc community #troy barnes #abed nadir #trobed #community nbc

[kagoutiss]

what if undercover sheik au had a cute sheik/malon subplot….more likely than u think………

#tloz oot #ocarina of time #sheik #malon #ganondorf #undercover sheik au #sheik/malon is underrated…………….imo……….. #also while working for ganondorf sheik has to go to the ranch sometimes to make sure things are running smoothly #ingo hasn’t reached his maximum Asshole potential yet but he keeps getting worse #but malon and sheik get along rly well and sheik kinda senses that malon is doing most of the work #one day sheik is like. ‘ok this is getting out of hand’ and tells ganondorf that ingo is making malon do everything #and ganondorf loves to go to places completely unannounced bc it scares everyone #and he loves horses anyway. so they go to the ranch #ingo gets his character development so fast that it literally almost kills him #sheik and malon get to spend some quality time together and its cute and awkward #sheik & ganondorf ride back and ganondorf is like ‘so you & the lon lon girl huh???’ and sheik is like ‘i have to leave right now BYE’

[fallenangelontheceiling]

I’m breaking my No Tumblr For Lent rule because I really have to share -

I’m 65 pages into Mansfield Park and I can’t stand Edmund. He’s objectively a Good Person (which I can already tell is going to be a rarity in this narrative), but god is he insufferable.

The Crawfords are flakes, but at least they’re entertaining flakes so far.

Austen is always scathingly snarky but this is the first time I think she comes off a bit self-righteous??

#jane austen #mansfield park #btw I already know how the book ends #which is NOT HELPING #the moral of Austen’s books is imo #young women need to leave the damn house #even Lizzie who is already sparkly comes into her own when she leaves #Anne definitely benefits from getting tf away from her Dad’s #afaik Fanny never gets that? #besides visiting her bio family in Southampton #which is literally a manipulation tactic to say #haha see you could be poor and stuffed like sardines #see it could be worse! stay with us it’s your only option! #Fanny clings to William and Edmund because she never finds her people #she starts the novel not valued at all #and ends it valued only as so far as her Aunt finds her Helpful #however #I might be looking at this with too much of a 2024 morality #but that hasn’t really been an issue with other Austen novels #so… is it me? is the problem me? #not to be all women need to be xyz to be interesting… #wouldn’t Fanny make a great sympathetic villain #let my girl be jealous and bitter and totally in denial about it #that would only work if she felt emotionally entitled to Edmund #god this book is such a chore

[sparring-spirals]

I got to say I really liked the episode (despite only having watched exu calamity of the exu series) and I think maybe Matt needed a breather after so many fast paced, lore filled episodes.

however, I am kinda bummed that the fcg processing has been put on hold for (at least) two weeks now and that means that, despite them being great actors that truly merge with their characters at the table, their reactions will be much less raw and there’s a chance some of them will forget tidbits of information, emotions they felt when it happened because they (as role players) will have had time to process it out of the game and it might create a dissonance in the game. tbf I kind of felt the difference even between the end of ep 91 and the beginning of 92 but it made sense because technically they were still running and couldn’t afford to process. idk. I have hope that we’ll still see that raw emotion, but I fear it won’t be as impactful as it could’ve been, especially if they’ll have to put the “reporting for duty” hat on immediately when they get to the camp

I think being a little bummed about the sort of unexpected hiatus on the Bell's Hells/Post F.C.G processing is super understandable! As someone who also really did enjoy the Crownskeepers return (hello im still yelling about Opal internally), I'm kind of in the same camp of being kind of thrown/disappointed about not getting to really dig into/sit with the Bell's Hells post-F.C.G loss. Like, LOVED the Crownkeepers, fascinating second half, kind of meh on the specific timing.

I'm holding my reservations about whether they're going to have to keep running/moving once we return to their portion of the story, since hey, until it happens (or doesn't!), we don't know, so I don't feel like getting too in my head about it until then.

That said! I do think that in general the cast puts characterization and staying true to the emotions of the character/story as a very high priority within the campaign. I think you're right that it won't be the exact same as if they had done a big emotional blowup/goodbye/processing scene in the same ep where they lost F.C.G, or immediately after. I don't think that means it has to be less impactful, just that- yeah, they'll have had more time to actually think/process it.

But they're also all professional voice actors who have, IMO, thus far shown how much they think about the inner lives of their characters and enjoy really digging deep into the emotional/interpersonal aspects of roleplay.

My assumption (my hope?) is that with additional time to think about + process a devastating/deeply emotional loss for their character(s), they'd choose to lean into that more, and not less. It wont be the same as the immediate raw reactions, thats true! But i dont think that means it has to be less impactful, even if they (as people) have had more time to process, and will be choosing how their characters, fresh off the loss, react. I dont think thats a guarantee it will be less impactful/emotional (maybe the additional thinking would actually enhance the reactions being true/insightful to the characters vs gut reactions from cast), but it will be different.

But if the cast chooses to lean into the heartbreak/emotions, and the circumstances of the BH in the upcoming ep enable it, I'm sure they can still kick my ass (emotionally), timeskip or not.

In general, I'm cautiously optimistic about what could happen next! Even if I don't love the timing thus far. I think there's still plenty of ways for me to get what I'm hoping for wrt F.C.G/BH. :] There are plenty of ways for me to get let down too, probably, but until it happens, or doesn't, I'm opting to not get too doomery about it. We'll see.

I uh. Hope that helps? A bit? Being bummed about specific things you were hoping for being off the table is totally reasonable. just hoping to lend an alternate way of viewing it, if desired.

(i wrote the sentence: "don't be lamenting your chickens before they hatch" and then went "what the fuck" out loud. i spent 4 hours at work today just doing systems diagramming and my brain is fried. clearly. keeping this here for my own entertainment.)

#im kind of tired im sorry if this makes no sense lmao. i appreciate the ask! sorry if my answer comes off as flippant. i do get where you're #coming from and wanted to share how im personally choosing to approsch it haha #critical role #cr spoilers #c3e92 #bell's hells #spar speaks #ask away! #speculation #fcg #imo its like how we probably wont be getting situations like marisha shellshocked live tweeting after jester saved beau with a cupcake #but we get the cast doing sneaky little tweets before the episode airs but after theyve already experienced it #different for sure. doesnt have to be worse. thats more up to personal opinion i think #i fully wrote that chicken thing and went. thats the idiom right. and then stared at it and went. ... no. its not. #should i have waited to answer this ask? maybe. but oh well. #i should probably get some sleep though

[artisticow]

this whole watcher disaster (needing an entire camera crew & more for minecraft vids or ghost investigations) sadly makes me think of the sword af season 2 disappointment. viewers reiterate over and over that we would enjoy this sort of content if it was filmed on a camcorder with piss poor lighting and little editing. we watch for the talent, the cast, the banter between ryan & shane. how the cast roleplays interactions between their dnd characters. that's what the viewers care about. a minecraft video or a dnd session shouldn't have a budget in the tens of thousands. it's just not necessary. save those resources for shows that need them. this content shouldn't burden the creators. i'm not saying fire people; just divide resources accordingly. and listen to viewers. there's more to say but others have already said it. i just wanted to point out the tiny bit of overlap here between these two situations.

#watcher #sword af #i just want companies and creators to listen to what the people want #i'm tired of the entertainment industry getting worse n worse #(unsolved > watcher imo)

[bonefall]

So, your Clear Sky post is absolutely horrifying, but it was very needed, so thank you. What are your general thoughts on tackling his abuse for the AU? Like you've said, pretending he's a good guy is not the way to go, but are you planning on toning down *some* of the situations, just to give some of the cats a break? Clear Sky is a very realistic depiction of abusers, but that seems to come across even without victim number 25, yknow? I'm very curious about how you'd like to go about this.

My most recent big change was bringing Slash back into the fold, because I realized that it was actually a disservice to not address where DOTC's themes dip into Colonialism. It's a hard topic, and I'm still trying to work out the details, but I realized it was important.

With how BB!DOTC is such a MASSIVE overhaul, to properly address abuse and the ways it impacts you, ableism and its violence, and xenophobia broadly, a huge reworking of Slash belonged here too. He's one of the greatest examples of how badly WC demonizes non-Clanborn cats. I shouldn't dance around it.

That's what I need to do with Skystar.

MANY of his victims have happier endings than canon, though. Bumble is one of the most famous, bumped up into a major character and directly responsible for the formation of ThunderClan. Bright Storm is taking most of Gray Wing's roles. Birch and Alder are getting examined, with either a father who wants his kids back or Milkweed as the mate of Misty.

A lot of people will die because of him, even more will be hurt, but I see BB!DOTC as a story about victims and survivors.

Others might grab POVs here and there, but as a response to canon which I feel is Clear Sky's story told in many parts, I center this rewrite around Thunder Storm. The path of kindness he marches down, with love and with anger, and the people he helps.

So BB!Star Flower...

Previously I was playing her as ENTIRELY just manipulating Clear Sky. She was loyal to One Eye and trying to get at Skystar to bleed him dry for 8 lives to sacrifice; but connected to Thunderstar over recognizing him as a victim who deserves her idea of justice. So, she offers Thunderstar the final kill, so her father will be grateful to him and he'll get power AND the death of his abuser.

(When Thunderstar looks upon Skystar, pathetic and neutralized down to one life, he thinks about the collateral damage that will descend upon the forest if he accepts the deal. He decides that he has found the line between Justice and Justification. Of course he wants the power to make his enemies cower, protect his people, and eliminate Clear Sky so he never threatens them again; that's not the problem.

He can still do these things. He wouldn't NEED the power of a war god to do so.

But if One Eye returns, he will be endlessly hungry, ruthlessly dedicated to revenge, and set out to devour the whole forest. Everything would get worse, and even more people he loves would die. It's where his desire to destroy a monster would lead to him BECOMING one.)

Even on its face, it was previously missing an element. There's a step between "Starf decides to bring One Eye back" and "Starf offers Thunderstar the final kill" that was bare. This is the piece that was missing-- That she, herself, is trying to reach out to the only person who's ever really understood her.

But more importantly... I do feel this topic belongs here, in BB!DOTC. Abuse is a MAJOR theme. SKYSTAR is a monster already. He's harmed two wives in BB (Bright Storm and Falling Cry) and played toxic games with all three kits (Thunder Storm, Pale Sky, Tiger Sky).

And I'd avoid Star Flower being abused... why? Because it's uncomfortable to confront the pattern that Clear Sky displays? That in-canon, he tries to cut all his victims into the same ideal shape, from Storm to Thunder to Star Flower? ...it should be uncomfortable. Everything that I described in Clear Sky Is A Monster is rooted in the same desire for control, power, and punishment most abusive people share, he just happens to be a severe example.

Yes. That includes how he treats his child and romantic partners. The parallels that are drawn between Starf and Thunder are there because he wants power in the form of obedience. Starf replaces the son as a narrative award for his "growth" of not killing random people anymore for a while.

A cookie cutter is an effective tool because IT ONLY MAKES ONE SHAPE.

You know what's more uncomfortable? Reading canon!DOTC and seeing someone who hurt you reflected almost perfectly in the character the writers think did nothing wrong. Because of "good intentions" that were not there.

I will say though, just to be clear; I don't see a purpose in being more than PG-13 about serious topics for this project. I promise none of my intentions have changed. Nothing will be more graphic or gorey than canon WC-- just more intentional.

I'm keeping the sacrifice because it's dope. No one is taking this from me. Girl Moment: Killed her awful husband 8 times to count as 8 sacrifices and offered the last life to her buddy as a show of good will. How else do you make friends outside of high school

But I know now that Star Flower NEEDS to keep the canon fact she has very little agency, UNTIL that moment she snaps.

She's sacrificing one abuser to try and bring back a bigger, badder one, because in spite of everything, her father One Eye always made her feel safe. Even though he promised her off to Skystar, and expected her to be willing to die for him. She's followed every command, every order, past the death of his mortal vessel.

The first, and only, selfish choice she's ever made was in reaching out to Thunderstar to offer him the power of her father.

Thunderstar's Justice is a story about a Thunder Storm at the pinnacle of his arc, how the survivors of his Clan are settling into the new normal after the carnage of The First Battle, how Skystar's arrogance brings a violent god to the Forest... and the connection Thunderstar makes with the daughter of a monster.

#Kronk meme: ''Oh Yeah. It's all coming together'' #I'll be making the fragments in another post #Just because this one's getting really long #It works well as an explanation of my intentions #I think I had been making a mistake previously to conceive of BB!Starf as a femme fatale who seduced Sky #Again: I'm not perfect! As I analyze and re-read with a more critical eye. My art changes. #Tho I will admit I do like the idea of a Starf who is totally cognizant of how she can manipulate a villain #Into doing what she wants. I do love myself a powerful and scheming woman #It's that it didn't fit my story or my themes OR even the purpose of BB as a fixit that addresses canon #Better bones au #BB!DOTC #BB!Star Flower #BB!Skystar #BB!Thunder Storm #Also imo this philosophy will let me make BB!One Eye what I think he deserves and works best as #THE WORSE OF TWO EVILS #The Tyrant of Tyrants #And man.... the idea that Skystar becomes the Clan patron of war... #The God of Summer laughs at him. #''Outdone and reeling your wounded pride speaks the words your tender mouth can never say'' #''That you were outclassed and now you obsess over the bigger monster you aren't good enough to become'' #''You fell into the step of a lion and think you can replicate what my paw does without effort.'' #Cw abuse #Tw abuse #Abuse #Child abuse

[skitskatdacat63]

2012 Malaysian Grand Prix - Sebastian Vettel & Fernando Alonso

#it is like always palable shock whenever i notice how significant their height dif is #by significant i mean theyre both small to me so seeing that seb is actually noticeably taller is so ????????? #logically i know hes taller but still. it doesnt feel right #it just is not noticeable usually bcs theyre both often around taller men so to see proof of it breaks me #okay about these. they seemed pretty friendly with each other in early 2012 ngl 🥺 #its one thing being friendly when youre on a podium or something bcs its courtesy even if theres tension imo #but them walking together randomly hehehehe 🤭🤭🤭 #i wonder what they were talking about. i think they were prob going to the drivers meeting tbh #aaahh also there were other pics(but imago watermark ugh) and theyre just walking so close...pressed shoulder to shoulder #EEEEEEEEE seb always looks so pleased and happy and giggly to be talking to him #every day a catie in your area gets taken over by looking through vettonso pics. it is truly an epidemic. #you can only save her by talking to her about vettonso. ...might make it worse though. #sebastian vettel #fernando alonso #vettonso #f1 #formula 1 #formula one #we do a little bit of f1 #2012 malaysian gp #I LOVE MALAYSIAN GP SO MUCH BRING IT BACK ALL MY FAV PICS ARE FROM SEPANG AAAGAHHHH

[drbatsponge]

A lot of people don't seem to understand that Starfire would likely face the same damage that Babs has faced if they got her back with Dick.

As if Starfire isn't already facing damage from people who think her personality is the same as that cartoon from 2003.

#I don't see how her getting back with Dick would fix anything #it would just makes things worse for her imo #but that's just me #I suppose I'm just tired of Dick Grayson being the only important thing about Babs or Kory #they're their own characters #leave them be 😭 #koriand'r #starfire #dick grayson #nightwing #teen titans #dc comics