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bloodmoon24 · 6 months
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Seeing this and knowing there’s a future episode called “Sinsmas”, makes me think there’s gonna be something like this gonna happen in the episode, as well as seeing the other Sins like Satan, Leviathan, and Belphagor for the first time? If so, that’ll be exciting. All the Sins together for the holidays, featuring more FizzarOzzie moments
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petitprincess1 · 3 months
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I've probably talked about this before, but this thought is even more solidified with Lucifer's behavior. But I adore how opposite the Deadly Sins are to their Sins:
Lucifer is meant to represent Pride, yet he has everything but that. He completely regrets giving people free will and is disgusted by his own subjects. Not to mention, he has depression and most definitely dislikes himself.
Asmodeus represents Lust, yet is in a romantic relationship with Fizzarolli. He also values consent and caring for your partner, considering Iglehart revealed that every partner shouldn't solely care for their partner on Valentine's. Also, he has Val's antennae in a vase, so he certainly does not care for abuse of any kind.
Beelzebub is supposed to be Gluttony, but her "lava lamp" stomach is constantly burning calories making her hungry. However, despite that, she makes sure her people are well-fed while making sure that they don't overindulge. This is backed by her bringing attention and concern to Blitzo getting too drunk at the party.
Belphagor works in Healthcare, which anyone would know is anything but Slothful. Essentially, she creates medications and hospitals so others can relax before her.
Judging by Wrath Imps, they're in charge of farming and providing food to Hell. That is a job that requires a lot of patience and care. Not only that, but Wrath Imps seem to reserve their anger only for when the time comes...or the festival lol. Satan, no doubt, is the same.
Mammon is greedy, don't get me wrong. However, he also still has to swindle and cheat to launch his projects. Hell, the man easily can make his own theme park, yet chooses to create a bootleg Loo Loo World. And it's an incredibly cheap-looking place, as well.
We haven't seen Envy yet, but judging by Glitz and Glam, it seems like the two are always performing. Even as their simply walking the carpet, they still are mirroring each other and posing. It's like their image and talent is more important than anything else. Plus, the stage ends up collapsing around them, and yet they are still more concerned whether they won Mammon's praise or not.
This is all so incredibly well thought out and makes what the Seven Virtues would be like
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thefanworksinspector · 3 months
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The 7 Deadly Sins in Helluva Boss & Hazbin Hotel (Warning! Spoilers!)
So... They're fallen angels too, right? At least in the catholic lore, right? At least that's what Google said-
If so, how did they fall in HB and HH? Lucifer for revolting against Heaven, but what about the others? And what did they look like as angels? *grins mischievously* Well, I have this headcannon. What if Lucifer snuck up to heaven to get all his closest angel buddies to fall with him, and help build his kingdom? It takes some convincing, maybe a song or two, but his six friends agree one by one.
First Satan, convinced that he can unleash his anger issues whenever he pleases. Song would be "Riot" by Three Days Grace.
Second is Beezlebub, promised to over-indulge in all the food and drinks she wants, get as high or as drunk as she can, and party all the time! She finally gives in and sings Kesha's version of "This is me".
Then Mammon, who is surprisingly reluctant about the idea. After all, Heaven is comfortable and luxurious. Lucifer convinces him he can be free with "The Other Side" performed by Hugh Jackman and Zac Efron.
Asmodeus is convinced rather quickly, no song is even needed. He sees as no pleasure before marriage is, quite frankly, very dumb. Lovers should be free to do as they please, and if they both feel good, why should that limit their entry into heaven?
Lucifer convinces Belphagor by promising her rest and relaxation, not needing to work. She sings "Weak" by AJR when she reflects on her decision to go with him, noticing how easily she was convinced by him.
Leviathan had been seen as ugly throughout heaven, though Lucifer had never thought that was true. He tells Leviathan how beautiful they truly are, and that other angels are just jealous that they're unique. Lucifer sings about them with "Scars to You're Beautiful" by Alessia Cara, reassuring them that they don't have to change to be beautiful. Leviathan becomes pompous and flamboyant because of this, showing off through the fact that they still see beauty in everything besides themselves, the woe they felt as an angel turning into jealousy. Into envy.
So yeah, that's my take on it. Tell me what ya think ig :3
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tertain-the-original · 3 months
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My interpretation of Belphagor. She’s a Mad Scientist who grows her own daughters in a lab. Of course, that’s not all she does, but her experiments can get a little… iffy. The Morality can be rather questionable, even if some of her work has lead to medical benefits. But I guess that’s something she’s willing to push aside to continue her scientific experiments. Both sides of the medical coin or something like that. She does love her daughters, though she can be rather over protective because of something that happened in the past…
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trayzen-the-infinite · 10 months
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I’ve been thinking now that Belphagor got brought up in Helluva Boss. In religious Texts Belphagor (naturally) is the poster child for laziness. They were an Angel whose job it was to keep order on Earth but they found it boring and uninteresting so started collecting things from earth to invent stuff. When they joined Lucifer’s rebellion they did jack shit. When made Lord of Sloth their was a story about how they decided to visit earth and discovered sex, this was extremely distasteful and so went back to hell and was thankful they didn’t do that. Belphagor makes deals with humans to use their inventions with the promise easy money. These are always Monkey Paw deals and something will go wrong (Belphagor probably made the Internet) Belphagor is also friends with Mammon. I guess if you’re going to be a chronically lazy inventor you might as well have a rich friend
I’m just imagining a similar situation in Helluva Boss where Bel is super smart and can invent crazy stuff in maybe a few hours but would find the act of getting out of the house a titanic challenge. Mammon got all his robots thanks to Bel and has decided this lazy woman of industry is worth hanging out with. Her ring is the pinnacle of modern technology and medicine in Hell and is that way specifically so she doesn’t have to do anything.
In much the same way Mammon sticks with Belphagor Beelzebub also makes it a point to hang out with Bel but for the drugs Bel has. Bee is less welcome than Mammon and tries her best to keep Bee out of her house but Bee will always find a way in.
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Roxy and devil, do you guys have some family friends? Who are they?
Roxy: Well, I have Rocky, Crystal, Joe, Brian, Misty, Levi, Richard, Mia, Kyle, and Shyanne. What about you, babe?
The Devil: I've got Beelzebub, Belphagor, Leviathan, Asmodeus, Mammon, Satan, Alastor, Paimon, Abbadon, Drago, and Eveane.
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I got lazy with this one
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gimme-a-thrust · 1 year
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Belphagor: Ugh… I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy… Mammon: You're just laying down. Belphagor: Yeah, but I really gotta pee.
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Moodboard for a Noncanon Belphagor Fictive with themes of Vaporwave and Dreaming (Design + Bel Art by @/gravity-again, Do Check them out!) -Mod Mirthful
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meandtheyeehaws · 3 months
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This is a big stretch but. Because the V's have a bigger role in S2, maybe Ozzie will make an appearance :00 I assume Charlie may try to help Angel with Val so she could go to Ozzie for some help. I don't know, I just feel that Ozzie is best for handling Angel's and Val's contract. Again, a big stretch and I probably just want more Ozzie (& Fizzy)
honestly id just be happy to get a background namedrop like how we saw the beelzejuice sign at husks bar and belphagors name in charlies phone contacts😭
but same it hurts my heart to think that fizz and ozzie might not appear in helluva boss either for a while.. honestly i was contemplating just starting to draw fizzarozzie into the backgrounds of any new helluva eps or making up whatever stuff they where up to during the eps lmaooo. new segment called "meanwhile in the lust ring"
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anthurak · 6 months
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Continuing my analysis and theorizing on Asmodeus, Mammon and the rest of the Deadly Sins of Helluva Boss and their backgrounds, characterization and where the show might be taking them, I’ve been thinking about what their expressions of their respective ‘Sins’ might truly represent for their characters. Both in the way they express it and even the whole reason they express a ‘Sin’ in the first place.
Now assuming that all of the Sins are Fallen Angels just like Lucifer, and their presence in Hell is a result of their expulsion from Heaven, and Hell being the new home they’ve built for themselves;
What if their expression of each of their ‘sins’ is a metaphorical or even outright literal trauma coping mechanism?
Like given what we’ve seen so far of how Vivzie and her team approach and interpret the ideas of Hell and Heaven, I think it’s all too easy to imagine them framing the ‘fall’ of the seven sins to be a truly horrific event that left all of them with massive emotional and mental scars and trauma. Like getting kicked out by the universe’s most controlling, rigid, conservative and violently judgmental family.
So what if the whole reason that Asmodeus, Mammon, Beelzebub and the rest started expressing and embodying their respective ‘sin’ was as a way of processing and coping with their trauma?
And of course, there are healthy ways of dealing with trauma, and unhealthy ways as well. Which I think is the true difference between the Sins.
Basically, Ozzie and Bee found healthy ways of processing and coping with their trauma, while Mammon DIDN’T.
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More specifically, we see with both Ozzie and Bee that they are able to manage their ‘sin’ (ie; coping mechanism) so that it doesn’t become harmful to themselves or others: Bee is acutely aware of and concerned when someone is overindulging to the point of self-harm, while Ozzie strongly stresses the importance of consent when it comes to sex.
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Mammon meanwhile, clearly has zero management or restraint over his ‘sin’. I think it’s all too plausible that Mammon’s obsession with wealth and attention for his ‘brand’ is deep-down a way for him to distract himself from some deeply repressed pain and trauma. Thereby showing how a coping mechanism can become harmful not just for oneself, but others as well.
And the best part is that even with the little we know of them at this point, I think we can already guess that Belphagor, Satan and Leviathan could display/represent other means of coping with trauma, either healthy or harmful.
We know that Belphagor runs Hell’s pharmaceutical business, so I think we can all agree that could easily be a way to show how medication can either help or harm in dealing with trauma. Satan being the Sin of Wrath could represent how anger can be used as a coping mechanism, while he apparently running a workout app could hint to him using fitness as a coping mechanism. And Leviathan being associated with social media of course has all kinds of potential to the show the good and bad ways THAT can be used to deal with trauma.
Over the course of its run thus far, Helluva Boss has shown itself to be in large part a story about dealing with trauma, with practically all of the primary and secondary characters having arcs heavily influenced or even outright defined by their struggles with past trauma. Blitzo, Moxxie, Loona, Stolas, Fizzerolli, Barbie Wire, even more minor or antagonistic characters like Octavia, Verosika and Striker. ALL of these characters have been shown grappling with past pain and trauma, with almost all showing that they are coping with their trauma in either a healthy or unhealthy manner.
Whether Moxxie recognizing that it is his father who is at fault for all the pain he went through and not himself, Fizzerolli finding a loved one who has helped him cope or Barbie Wire simply spending a long time in therapy to show the positive ways people can deal with their trauma. Or conversely, Loona’s closed-off, angry and generally anti-social defense mechanism, Stolas trying to throw himself into a relationship he doesn’t fully understand, or just… EVERYTHING that Blitzo has going on to show the harmful ways people can deal with trauma.
So I’d say it really only makes sense that with how the show has also taken steps to ‘humanize’ the Sins, that this theme of exploring how people deal with deep-seeded pain and trauma would likewise extend to them as well.
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thecrazygamingzombie · 2 months
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Helluva Boss/Hazbin Hotel corporate AU:
Wrote this AU with some friends last night and it was too good not to share publically:
Hell is replaced with a massive afterlife based corporation called 'Hell Inc' that handles the production, distribution, and management of all the various types of evil in the world; while also acting as the largest employeer of damned souls in existence and a direct competitor to Heaven LLC.
The company is headed by it's Chief Pride Officer and founder, Lucifer Morningstar, beneath him is the company's Vice President Charlie Morningstar after the former VP retired and disappeared under odd circumstances. Charlie has been trying (and failing) to get the company in some semblance of order and addressing the horrible working conditions that arose as a result of her father's near endless apathy and depression stemming from a millennia of accumulated burnout.
Below them are the six members of Hell inc's board of directors who run the various company departments:
Mammon, Chief Greed Officer (CGRO) and head of the greed department. Which manages the company finances as well as several financial institutions on earth like Banks and Casinos
Beelzebub, Chief Gluttony Officer (CGLO) and head of the gluttony department. They run Hell Inc's marketing campaigns and manages several fast food chains in the human world such as Bee Burger
Asmodeus, Chief Lust Officer (CLO) and head of the lust department. They run Hell inc's production lines in the underworld and various media conglomerates on earth.
Satan, Chief Wrath Officer (CWO) and head of the wrath department. Which handles all security related matters along with war and conflict in the human world, primarily arms manufacturers
Leviathan, Chief Envy Officer (CEO) and head of the Envy department. Which runs Hell Inc's research and development and various construction ventures on earth
And Belphagor, Chief Sloth Officer (CSO) and head of the Sloth department. Which is in charge of all health related company matters along with various hospitals and insurance companies on earth.
Each has their own unique management problems and while they once worked in tandem, which has resulted in a slough of issues from a lack of individual oversight. Such as Greed's severe budget cuts, Envy's ridiculously long working hours coupled with high standards, and employees in Wrath that spend more time arguing than getting things done.
Beneath them are the middle managers, the Ars Goetia, but they're among some of the most useless members of the company. Holding nothing more than figurehead positions to create the illusion of a centralized hierarchy when in reality they just pass their work onto the various supervisors within each department. Recent hire Stella is particularly bad in this way as the only reason she has the position at all was due to the nepotism provided by her brother Andrephelus who works alongside her in the Envy department.
(the only exception is Lust's middle manager Stolas)
Then we have the supervisors, the actual managers of the department divisions who occupy the role of authority figure that the Ars Goetia fail to fill themselves. Notable supervisors include:
Crimson Knolastname: Greed department supervisor overseeing most organized crime with a focus on blackmail activities
Wally Wackford: Greed department supervisor in charge of scams and white collar crimes.
Verosika Mayday: Lust department supervisor and PR manager for the department
Fizzarolli: originally an intern in greed, he was later transferred over to Lust and supervises the roleplay and costume divisions of the lust department
Vortex: the primary event coordinator for the Gluttony department along with new employee orientation
Striker: Wrath department supervisor, handling any and all matters relating to mercenary work and assassinations
Joe and Lin: Wrath department supervisors, the former managing the hand to hand combat division while the latter runs the in house medical center and trains all Wrath Department employees in battlefield aid.
And last but not least are all the rank and file employees that makeup Hell inc's primary workforce. They're usually sorted by species: Baphomets work for the Sloth Department, Imps work for the Wrath department, Succubi and Incubi work for the Lust department, etc. However this is only for their initial probational period, if their skills prove to be more suitable elsewhere in the company then can be transferred into another department.
With one exception: Pride. The department in charge of processing all damned souls at the time of death and general evil relations in the human world
The Pride department is the largest and most chaotic of all of Hell Inc's departments, it's facing an ever increasing workload that it struggles to manage and even with the steady flow of Sinners rolling in to fill vacancies the department is constantly short staffed. So not only are sinners forbidden from being transferred to other departments, but any hellborn that get transferred in Never. Ever. Leave. Getting assigned to the Pride Department is basically a life sentence and it doesn't help that the department itself has basically gained a reputation as a dumping ground for misfit employees that can't properly function in any other department.
To make matters worse, while the other departments have some level of rules and standards when it comes to employee conduct. The Pride Department is left in almost total disarray thanks to every supervisor in the department being blood thirsty corporate climbers who are constantly screwing one another over to gain more recognition in the overall company. The supervisors affectionately nicknamed the Vees: Velvette (social media manager), Vox (IT supervisor), and Valentino (employee recruitment manager) are the absolute worst when it comes to this backstabbing.
However, the biggest problem facing the Pride department is none other than the man eaters in the Demon Resources division. Ran by two supervisors known as Rosie and Alastor, the former handling employee disputes while the later is in charge of terminating employee contracts...and employees. If you get called into Alastor's office, that's usually the last anyone hears of you. The rest of HR isn't much better either as they all tend to be of a similar temperament to their supervisors.
But for all it's mess, VP Charlie genuinely believes she can clean up the company one department at a time; starting with the Pride Department. With the backing of both her father and the HR rep Alastor, she's assembled a solid team of employees willing to help her with the task.
And by that I mean employees that were voluntold to help her:
Husk, former supervisor in charge of managing Hell inc's gambling holdings that had been partially outsourced from Greed's own workers. Alastor had personally handled his demotion after it was found the cat demon had been skimming off the top.
Vaggie, the head of the security division of the Pride Department and Charlie's girlfriend. The rumors of her rise to power via nepotism are matched only by the rumors that she transferred in from Hell inc's rival company, Heaven LLC
Angel, a rank and file employee of pride with no particular specialization who's working directly under Val. He claims he's only on board with Charlie's plan in hopes of getting a promotion, but it's rather obvious he really just wants to get away from his current boss by any means necessary
Sir Pentious, part of the R&D team and widely considered to be one of the worst researchers in the entire company due to the numerous cases of collateral damage he's caused. Charlie's project is not only his last chance to avoid getting a pink slip for both his job and his life, but also to get the professional recognition he so desperately craves
Niffty, once a member of the janitorial team. Nobody knows where she came from or how long she's been working her, only that she's some what of an oddity even by Hell inc standards. The only thing that's certain about her is that she's an employee you should give a wide berth to if you value your personal safety
Meanwhile in the Pride department, a small little clique has formed of low level demons that have transferred in from other departments and work in the revenge division:
Blitzo, the supervisor of the division who's quite skilled at falling upwards. He is completely and utterly incompetent at his job, choosing instead to slack off with the toy ponies he spends his salary on or flirt/sexually harass his coworkers rather than actually performing any administrative duties. The only reason he still has his job is likely due to a 'friend' he has in middle management that keeps covering for him.
Moxxie, an accounting intern that transferred in from greed after a disastrous project with now ex-employee Chaz that resulted in massive losses for the greed department, causing Mammon to dump the 'useless' imp into the Pride department. Usually the one doing Blitzo's job for him, very begrudgingly I might add, and frequently grumbles about his station but secretly enjoys the group he's found. Especially his wife...
Millie, a security guard transferred from Wrath after several complaints in regards to 'excessive force' were leveled against her. Luckily she's adjusted quite well to her new position in the Pride Department even if she tends to drift under the radar more often than not, but she remains optimistic that she'll get a worthwhile promotion someday. In the meantime, she makes use of her spare time tending to her weapon collection or having sexual encounters with her husband around the office; away from most prying eyes
Loona, one of Hell inc's newest hires. Originally slated to be an intern in the Gluttony department, her attitude problems forced Beelzebub to personally see to it that the hound was relocated to a position in the Pride Department for both her own safety and that of her coworkers. Takes after her supervisors slacker tendencies in an apathetic way, spending practically every waking moment glued to her phone, much to Moxxie's frustration.
And that's the lot of the company! We hope you enjoy your stay at Hell Inc! Remember: Today is the first day of your eternal life....
(P.S. you didn't hear this from me, but rumor has it that Heaven LLC has been experiencing plenty of problems of it's own. Such as poor leadership, communication issues, and nepotism even worse than anything seen at Hell Inc. And there's even a few sources that claim that former VP Lilith was seen on their board of directors, but you know how people like to talk.)
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bloodmoon24 · 5 months
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Made the Sin of Sloth, herself! And doing her hair is really fun!
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hazbin hotel/helluva boss theory
yall know how the leaders in hell we've seen so far have a lot to do with carnivals?
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Hes the leader of hell and he looks like the ring leader/masters in carnivals.
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Asmodeus looks like a magician and I think he's a chicken? And birds and magicians are always tied together for some reason.
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Beelzebub reminds me of those people at carnivals that goes. "POPCORN GET YOUR POPCORN" or "COTTON CANDY GET YOUR COTTON CANDY" or "HOT DOGS GET YOUR HOTDOGS" or "DRINKS GET YOUR COLD TASTY DRINKS". Sadly I forgot what they are called. But Beelzebub I think? Gave those things to people in her song.
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Mammon reminds me of a jester or those men that picked up weights. In older carnivals.
So my theory is every leader in hell of the seven deadly sins have something to do with a carnival.
We haven't seen belphagor,leviathan,and satan.
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rouge-fox-expanded · 29 days
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I love Hazbin Hotel, the story, lore and the songs! And like many of us I was drawn to Lucifer like a moth to a flame, which incidentally is what many of us are projecting onto Valentino. Now Hazbin much like Good Omens is taking much of the theology surrounding the old testament to be the point of origin of heaven and hell along with all the old lore from hell. We see this in Helluva Boss a lot with three out of seven of the sins revealed, Beelzebub being the sin of Gluttony, Azmodeus being the sin of Lust and Mammon being the sin of greed with I believe mentions of Satan (wrath), Belphagor (sloth) and Leviathan (Envy) and Lucifer being the apex (Pride).
Now behind every great man there tends to be a great woman, and this seems to be especially true with Lucifer as we have the enigmatic Lilith, the woman that came before Eve. She was made from the same dust as Adam, made to be his equal and yet things didn't go so well, she would leave the garden and be punished (I don't have all the theology but I think she was cursed to give birth to demons or couldn't have children herself) and so eve was made from Adam's rib to be more subservient. Now in terms of Hazbin lore Adam and Lilith were created equal but Adam tried to assert dominance and Lilith wasn't accepting, yeeted out of there and that was the start of her meet cute with Lucifer whom from what we have been told was a bit of a trouble maker, but in the sense of being a creative and imaginative soul who's ideas didn't fit the mould of divinity. This is the first instance of what I love about the show: NUANCE. The angels believe everything is black and white despite the plot and characters proving time and time again that this is not the case, Lucifer from what we have seen of him is blantantly not evil. Lilith on the other hand, well that's where the theories start pouring in.
(warning long theory post)
I will admit I have been using the canon scraps from both the show and the interviews to project an image of Lilith as the Morticia to Lucifer's Gomez and I share Vivzie's head canon that she would be voiced by Lady Gaga. Seeing Lilith and Lucifer as a power couple, disgustingly in love whilst sticking it to heaven and rallying up hell using Charlie's hotel as a form of malicious compliance/lawful defiance would give me so much serotonin. However this is just a theory and imagining based on limited information and holds as much water as the other theories which paint Lilith in a much darker shade. Lilith's screen time in Hazbin hotel is less than two minutes and most of that is flashbacks (one of which is dubious) and she has no spoken lines and no insight into her motives or feelings and given that season 2 is coming at us at 2025 at the earliest the more ravenous of us are already making ideas of what kind of character she is going to be.
Now quite a compelling theory is she could be very similar in attitude and personality to Adam, yes you heard me right. Adam is essentially the poster child for toxic masculinity coated in so much narcissism, the fact that for 90% of the show has him wearing a mask is pretty symbolic of this as it means he never has to worry about anyone seeing him as weak because his mask can literally keep him covered (even if it slips, looking at the court scene in episode six). Now Lilith being similar in personality to Adam would certainly explain why they didn't get along, both thought they were the apex and wanted to be in charge. Whilst Adam is the epitome of toxic masculinity Lilith could very well be the avatar of toxic femininity and yet she is limited by her own humanity and the whims of divinity...until she meets Lucifer, someone whom also has big ideas, a lot of imagination and most crucially doesn't feel like he belongs amongst the other angels. Lilith probably thought God had answered her prayers.
Now I personally don't think Lilith is the defacto villain, that would rather fly in the face of the nuanced take Hazbin shows us. Hell isn't forever and Heaven isn't perfect, it's not black and white and we need to look into the gray but let's assume Lilith and Adam were similar in their extreme personalities, does this mean that Lilith is going to be just as bad as Adam? I would argue not necessarily and the reason for that is consequences. Out of the two, Adam doesn't suffer any consequences until the finale of Hazbin hotel season 1 (or at least none that he seems to be particularly showing asides from some hints at the mention of eve and we haven't even asked about Cain and Abel) but for Lilith...she's been suffering consequences for millennia. Now we go back to the lore of hazbin hotel, according to the info dump Charlie gives us in the beginning Evil is it's own seperate and conscious entity, it's even got a name according to interviews and creator bts talk: Roo. And so heaven keeps evil in it's place by maintaining strict control over creation and life on earth (apparently). In the old stories Adam and Eve get kicked out of Eden because a snake offers Eve an apple telling her that it will grant her knowledge of morality. Incidently in the original bible story the snake is just a snake, no mention of it being lucifer but in the hazbin lore Lilith and Lucifer plan to give the apple to Eve so as to gift humanity free will. NOW, here comes the nuance take: was this the wrong move? Because free will is so intrinsic into human nature that without it are we really human? How could someone be good or bad if they didn't choose those actions and by that logic how could a human be judged through a moral lense if they don't have the capacity to act on morality? Yet by giving Eve the apple and allowing humanity a choice between good and evil, well...this gives evil an opening to root into earth. Black mixes with the white and things become gray, heaven is pissed!
And as a consequence for this reckless act, Lilith and Lucifer are sent to hell, where it's all black. This kills Lucifer's creativity and he becomes depressed, Lilith however makes a comeback and establishes herself as the queen of hell and is able to rally up the demons and because of this amass of a power base, heaven is like 'welp, gotta do something about this' and apparently it was Adam who was like 'how about a cull?'. Adam is rewarded for his aggressive, violent and frankly appalling behavior and yet Lucifer and Lilith face the consequences of their own recklessness. If we are to assume Lilith and Adam started out with equally selfish personalities one got worse from being a winner (as we can see what he's like in season one) whilst we don't know what millennia of being a loser did to Lilith. There is of course one character that's very existence shows the light in Lucifer and potentially Lilith and that is Charlie, because if two fallen souls consigned to the worst place in creation can raise a daughter like Charlie Mornigstar then they can't be all bad right? I mean I would hope that Lilith did indeed love her husband and her daugher, because that's what a lot of those portraits/photos in Lucifer's man cave seem to tell us. Perhaps hell and raising a family taught Lilith some humility and she was able to grow in the way Adam clearly did not, having to face the consequences of a clearly broken system would have certainly shaped her ideas and attitudes but how do we explain her seven year absence? Well that's what Season Two will do (I hope) but as a lot of us aren't prepared to wait until 2025 we've all developed some pretty hot takes based on the limited but compelling information we've been given.
-Lilith has been missing from hell for seven years, the same time Alistor has been missing leading many to believe she is the one that owns his soul (a deal he is desperate to get out of now that he's aware of his own mortality and growing empathy)
-Lilith is in heaven due to a deal with Adam, and now that he's dead (for now) she is expected to go back to hell and bring Lucifer and Charlie into line so as not to threaten the foundations of heaven.
And that's all the canon info we have
That's literally all the solid information we have in regards to Lilith and many have used this to assume she is a shitty mom for just hanging on a beach doing god knows what for seven years whilst Charlie has been trying to carry on her legacy through the hotel and Lucifer's depression reduced him to a forced apathetic shut in.
But of course this is Hazbin and Helluva, and the lore is rich with that sweet grey nuance so calling Lilith a villain seems a little presumptious. I am not saying that is incorrect, but given that the main antagonists of season two are apparently going to be the Vees we can hope that Lilith isn't going to be Adam 2.0 for season two. Now I am going to briefly entertain some other theories before making my pitch for how I see Lilith; in episode 5 we see a flashback of lilith taking Charlie away from Lucifer during the song more than anything, and many eagle eyed viewers pointed out that the silhouette didn't have the same hairline as Lilith in the photos (and later in heaven) which lead them to spectulate Eve might have had a hand to play in this. This is a theory I actually think holds some water primarily because Adam is a fucking idiot, and any deal he would have made with Lilith would have had Sera or one of the other higher seraphim pulling it's strings. Adam isn't a schemer, but the other archangels well they know how powerful Lucifer is so keeping him contained and harmless would certainly be on their agenda and having Eve playing Lilith to keep him and Charlie from building each other up would certainly be a tactial move. And let's face it if they were able to kick him out of heaven and cast him into hell then wrecking his marriage wouldn't be that big of a deal for them. But then where does Lilith fit into this picture? We know that Lucifer negotiated that only the sinners could be killed during the exterminations, now would heaven grant him this simply to keep him placid or would he need to offer something in exchange? Maybe Heaven accepted this deal at first but Lilith continued to resist so they were like 'okay, how about this? You get to come back to heaven and stop all this resist and rebel shit?' and the stick to that carrot was 'it's either this or we go after hellborns too', and not prepared to face those consequences Lilith obeyed
Heaven has already crushed Lucifer's spirit, it took them longer to deal with Lilith but getting her in heaven and away from her family certainly solved the problem of resistance and with the exterminations keeping sinners in check everything became routine...until Charlie was like 'erm, redemption?' well that and the fact one of the overlords accidentally killed an exorcist (something Adam and Lute took personally). Now Lilith being in heaven actually affords her a few advantages that being in hell does not, because if it becomes public knowledge she is there then Heaven is gonna have several huge problems so her silence is not just golden but MANDATORY. If Lucifer knows she is in heaven this could explain how he was able to get Charlie that meeting, that kind of knowledge can certainly open doors and Lilith being close behind enemy lines would be privy to a fair bit of knowledge assuming she had any long term plans or schemes. And any of those schemes would certainly be helped by the current state of events at the end of season 1, Adam is dead (and potentially a sinner man in hell), the exorcisms have been made public to heaven, redemption works as proven by Sir Pentious getting a divine promotion and Lucifer is proactively supporting the Hazbin Hotel. The corrupt system that punished her and her family again and again has just suffered some massive pushback, the divine order is unsteady and there is confusion and more importantly: opportunity. And Lilith isn't like Adam, she's had to deal with consequences since the apple was given to Eve, she has had to grow, adapt and take all the shit that was thrown at her and deal with heaven's shit for a long time. It could certainly have made her a better person, or a worse one but I bet you it has made her pissed. And now Lute is sending her home to clean up the mess they made? That doesn't just sound like a spectacular mistake, but a damn good story.
So like the rest of us, I cannot wait to see Lilith in season 2. Maybe she will be a villain, maybe she won't be but I am betting she is going to be spectacular, I have faith in Vivziepop and I believe in Hazbin Hotel. And if she is voiced by Lady Gaga and does a duet with Jeremy Jordon I am going to sqee so hard the neighbours dogs will think it's an attack.
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[𝕀𝕟𝕤𝕡𝕠: ℍ.𝔹./ℍ.ℍ.]
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❥ 𝐏𝐫𝐢𝐝𝐞:
♤ Pride Ring Headcanons ♚
♤ Hierarchy Explanation [Short]
♤ Earthly Travel Concept
♤ More coming soon...
❥ 𝐖𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐡:
♧ Hierarchy Explanation [Short]
♧ More coming soon...
❥ 𝐆𝐫𝐞𝐞𝐝:
◇ Greed's Jail Theory
◇ Hierarchy Explanation [Short]
◇ More coming soon...
❥ 𝐋𝐮𝐬𝐭:
♡ Lust Ring Headcanons ♚
♡ Hierarchy Explanation [Short]
♡ More coming soon...
❥ 𝐄𝐧𝐯𝐲:
♤ Envy Ring Headcanons ♚
♤ Hierarchy Explanation [Short]
♤ More coming soon...
❥ 𝐆𝐥𝐮𝐭𝐭𝐨𝐧𝐲:
♡ Gluttony Ring Headcanons ♚
♡ Hierarchy Explanation [Short]
♡ "Beelzebub" Redesign Ranking
♡ More coming soon...
❥ 𝐒𝐥𝐨𝐭𝐡:
♧ Sloth Ring Headcanons ♚
♧ Hierarchy Explanation [Short]
♧ TWDAK/Helluva Boss Ft. Belphagor (@gravcore)
♧ More coming soon...
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bingusbongu · 5 months
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Masterlist/characters ill write for!
The amazing digital circus
- Caine
- Jax
Prankster reader
- Ragatha
-Pomni
- Zooble
-Gangle (PLATONIC)
-Kinger (PLATONIC)
Rottmnt
- Raphael
Dragon Reader
- Leonardo
Dragon Reader || Dating Hcs
- Donatello
Dragon reader || Robo babies
- Michelangelo
Dragon reader
- April
Villainous
- Dr. Flug
Relationship hcs (old) || Fem Witch reader || Blackhats Assistant || Dating hcs
- Demencia
Fiesty/sweet Hero Reader
- Blackhat
Kitty
FNAF
- Glamrock Freddy
-Glamrock Montgomery Gator
- Glamrock Chica
- Glamrock Roxanne wolf
- Sundrop
Dating Hcs || Imagines
- Moondrop
Dating Hcs || Imagines
- Eclipse
- Mike Schmidt
- Gregory (PLATONIC)
- Cassie (PLATONIC)
Undertale
- Sans (Au's included)
- Papyrus (Au's included)
Obey me! Shall we date?
- Mammon
- Lucifer
Timid reader
- Leviathan
- Satan
- Asmodeus
- Beezlebub
- Belphagor
- Diavolo
- Barbados
- Simeon
- Luke (PLATONIC)
The Arcana
-Asra
-Julian
- Nadia
-Lucio
- Portia
- Muriel
Cookie run
- Dark enchantress Cookie
- pure vanilla cookie
- Golden Cheese Cookie
- Dark Cacao Cookie
- Hollyberry Cookie
- Pitaya Dragon Cookie
- Black Pearl Cookie
- Shining Glitter Cookie
- Crimson Coral Cookie
- Royal Margarine Cookie
Shy reader
- Red Velvet Cookie
- Latte Cookie
- Licorice Cookie
- Schwarzwälder
- Esspresso cookie
- Black Raisin Cookie
- Wildberry Cookie
- Almond Cookie
MLP
- Twilight Sparkle
- pinkie pie
- Apple jack
- Fluttershy
- Rarity
- Rainbow Dash
- Discord
-Princess Celestia
-Princess Luna
Hazbin Hotel/Helluva boss
- Alastor
New sinner reader
- Husk
- Angel dust
- Sir Pentious
- vox
- baxter
- Blitzø
- Loona
- Stolas
The Owl House
- Eda the Owl Lady
- Raine Whispers
- Lilith Clawthorn
- Luz
Discord reader
- Willow
Discord reader
- Gus
Discord reader
- Hunter
Discord reader
- Amity
Discord Reader
- Vee
Beastars
- Legoshi
Male Lion reader
- Haru
- Louis
- Juno
- Jack
Wings of Fire
- Clay
- Tsunami
- Glory
- Sunny
- Starflight
- Moonwatcher
- kinkajou (PLATONIC)
- Peril
- turtle
- Winter
- Qibli
- Blue
- Cricket
All characters are created by a different person, not me, please give him credit
I do plan on adding more in the future!!!!!
Hope this helps and give you some ideas!!!!!
Fyi: my writings alittle rusty, so pleade bare with me! I wont get to you automatically!
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