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eamo2004 · 11 months
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A Beginners Guide To The Different Alters Of Bruce Banner: Part 1
• Bruce Banner: This is the host alter and the original personality of Bruce Banner. He is usually a kind hearted, soft spoken human man with a genius level intellect. He had a habit of repressing his negative emotions until a terrible accident.
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• Savage Hulk: This is the most common Hulk. The strongest one there is. The Savage Hulk is comparable to a child, being the manifestation of Bruce's anger from a childhood of abuse from his father that he never released. As a child, Bruce would be powerless to stop his father from hurting him and his mother, Bruce repressed his rage, thusly the Hulk was formed as a way of expressing his rage as a child
This alter is almost always guaranteed to emerge when Bruce is either under extreme distress or in grave danger, depending on whether he is the dominant Hulk at the time.
When Bruce shifts to this alter, his physical form changes also, growing in size and muscle mass, his skin also turns bright green.
The Savage Hulk's strength depends on how angry he is. The angrier he is, the stronger he becomes, this strength is seemingly unlimited. Savage Hulk is one of the strongest alters. However, while Savage Hulk excels in raw strength and power, he lacks in intelligence. He has intelligence akin to a child, and lacks any form of control over his emotions.
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• Joe Fixit/ The Grey Hulk: This is Bruce's first Hulk transformation in universe. Joe has a cunning and ruthless personality, usually being selfish and rarely looking out for nobody but himself, though he can be shown to care deeply for others. He is of average human intelligence, but is particularly street smart, being an expert in the art of crime. Bruce developed the Joe Fixit alter from watching black and white movies as a child after his father had beaten him to the point of having two black eyes. Joe was Bruce's idea of what a man was as a child, a tough guy who wisecracks and would beat somebody to death for pissing him off.
Joe's appearance in physical form usually depends on whether or not he is the dominant personality. He was initially the dominant Hulk when Bruce Banner was struck by the gamma bomb, but was made dormant when The Savage Hulk appeared.
When he initially began shifting to this alter, Bruce would grow in size and muscle mass, with his skin turning grey. Sometimes Joe Fixit would remain in Banner's human form. Most recently after being exposed to cosmic radiation, Joe would become a Hulk with gray skin and glowing red veins.
Initially, when Joe was The Grey Hulk, he would essentially act as a middle ground for Banner and Savage Hulk, being stronger than Banner and smarter than Savage Hulk, while being less intelligent than Banner and weaker than Savage Hulk. When in his human form, he is seemingly just a normal human in terms of abilities. When in his Cosmic Hulk form, Joe is seemingly stronger than his former Grey Hulk form, but it is unknown how his cosmic form compares to the other Hulks.
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• Devil Hulk/ Immortal Hulk: One of Bruce's earliest and most dangerous alters, Devil Hulk feels responsible for protecting Banner and destroying anyone who poses a threat to him. This alter manifested from Bruce's subconscious urge to kill his abusive father and lash out at those who would hurt him. Devil Hulk is extremely protective of Bruce, going to great lengths to keep him safe and loving him in an almost parental way. He is especially protective of Savage Hulk, who is the manifestation of Bruce's inner child.
Bruce kept Devil Hulk locked away for most of his life, terrified of the consequences of releasing such a terrifying being into the world. When Bruce was a child, Devil Hulk would plead with the young boy to let him take control so he could murder Brian Banner and protect Bruce, with Bruce seeing him as a monster under the bed. Devil Hulk's need to protect Bruce is to a deadly extent, willing to do anything to protect Banner. Although Devil Hulk does seem to carry a moral compass, however small and twisted it may be, as he once went out of his way to track down a robber to punish them for killing a little girl and attempting to kill Bruce, and promptly broke every bone in that robber's body, leaving him permanently comatose and disabled.
The circumstances of Devil Hulk's appearance are rather unique. When in the physical world, Devil Hulk takes the form of the classic green Savage Hulk, but in Bruce Banner's mindscape, Devil Hulk takes the form of a draconic monster, with red and orange scales and sharp teeth.
In terms of strength, Devil Hulk seems to be on the same level as the Savage Hulk in terms of strength, but it isn't known how strong he is exactly. What makes him dangerous is his sinister intellect, seemingly on the same level of intelligence as Bruce Banner himself.
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dappercat123 · 1 year
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Devil hulk to Bruce as a child
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fiststornasunder · 7 months
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Immortal Hulk, transness and the Jungian shadow
Yes, Immortal Hulk again. I have a thesis to write about this behemoth of a run and I'm documenting every single idea that pops into my rotting brain before I actually start that process. I'm 4 months ahead anyway.
I believe Vol. 6: We Believe in Bruce Banner to be the most politically charged volume in the collection, and yet one of the most powerful political messages for me, a trans woman, comes in Vol.7, Issue 32: Hulk Is Hulk. At this point, Ewing has dropped 2 very subtle, almost imperceptible hints that point toward Charlene McGowan being transgender before outright saying it to our faces in issue 31, though that revelation would only have any meaning for people who know what HRT is. In this issue, though, it's Charlene herself who reveals her status as a trans woman to Doc Samson (who she may or may not have a crush on).
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This doesn't come out of nowhere; at this point in the story, she's suspecting that Xenmu has rewritten the colective consciousness to make Hulk seem like a villain, and she connects her ability to remember Bruce for who he was to her own process of self-discovery as a trans woman. She's able to reject this brainwashing, however, thanks to her very acute awareness of her own identity, one that she's had to assess very carefuly during her self-examination process. She's been, through her life, discarding the parts of herself who don't belong to her, and embracing the ones that do.
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This makes sense from a diegetic perspective; of course someon who has a very grounded, realistic and controlled view of themselves would be able to call bullshit on Xenmu's brainwashing. Thematically, however, there's something deeper going on here, something that led me back to the concept of the Jungian shadow, a concept Ewing clearly wants us to analyze the run through considering how prominent it is during the literal first issue.
See, the Hulks in this run (Devil Hulk, the "Big Guy" and Joe Fixit) are shadows of Bruce Banner. They're feelings and ideas Banner has pushed into the back of his mind due to his mind considering them incompatible with a hypothetical ideal version of himself. In short; they're projections of things Bruce fundamentally is, but that he represses due to societal rules and expectations.
The thing about being trans is that the entity you've spent your entire life repressing, your shadow, is likely to be at least in part made out of gendered ideas you consider incompatible with yourself due to having been forced into a particular gender at birth. In this framing, looking into your shadow while unaware of your queerness will inevitably lead to the realization that you are trans, and with a little bit of luck it will kickstart that process of self-examination McGowan speaks of.
This is the reality of why she's able to resist Xenmu's powers: she is already cloaked in her own shadow, she's taken control of her life and turned herself into the repressed version of herself society tries to bottle up.
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lirhyapetitpain · 1 year
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As requested and to celebrate the 5K followers on my Twitter account, the gamma tarot is back for pre-order until the 24th of May 2023 ! GRAB IT HERE !!
Link to each cards in this post
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concord-and-cliches · 2 years
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some guys. lots of guys, actually
(x / x)
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freythegay · 11 months
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Probably my favorite panel in the whole run 😢
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paragonrobits · 2 years
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the devil hulk persona is a faceted guy because he can
give Bruce a reassuring heartfelt talk about how he genuinely, truly loves Bruce. he knows he’s a monster. he does things bruce is scared of, that what he IS scares bruce. but he loves him. he’s there for him, always there to protect him from a world that always hurts him. because he LOVES him, because someone should. he extends the right hand that is mercy, long before the childlike Savage Hulk works out that hurting others, whne you don’t have to, hurts who the Hulk IS
but also he’s a terrifying and vicious monster who does things like bites off the faces of the Face-Eating Leopard party, who cry that they never thought someone would be eating THEIR faces
he is faceted
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broadwayfan92 · 11 months
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Bruce Banner must go into the depths of his mind to face the darkness that has always been there.
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Reminder that it's possible to bring y'all's blorbos up without bringing others down. This includes fellow voters. And a reminder that every entry deserves to be on this bracket.
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karmaspidr · 1 year
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Devil hulk: let me guess, shitty dad, cursed by gods, immortal monster out to destroy the world?
Salem: a fairly accurate summation I suppose.
Devil hulk: well, sorry to tell ya but I got that role covered, so you might as well leave
You tell her, Hulk
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dappercat123 · 2 years
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Bruce: devil, we don’t kill people!
Devil: I think you mean YOU don’t kill people
Bruce: no. WE don’t!
Devil: ooh look at me big shot over here! , telling me who I can and can’t kill!
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makiruz · 2 years
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So apparently at some point two of Bruce Banner’s more toxic alters, Guilt Hulk and Devil Hulk merged into one to make an even more toxic alter! Also he might be an introject of his abusive father, or he might be Brian Banner’s literal ghost haunting his son, comics man
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lirhyapetitpain · 2 years
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"You feel so lonely and ragged You lay here broken and naked My love is just waiting To clothe you in crimson roses I will be the one that's gonna find you I will be the one that's gonna guide you My love is A burning consuming fire"
Gamma Tarot XIII -    featuring The Devil Hulk
I - THE MAGICIAN II - THE HIGH PRIESTESS III - THE EMPRESS IV - THE EMPEROR V - THE HIEROPHANT VI- THE LOVERS VII - THE CHARIOT VIII - JUSTICE IX - THE HERMIT X - WHEEL OF FORTUNE XI - STRENGTH XII - THE HANGED MAN XIII XIV - TEMPERANCE XV - THE DEVIL XVI - THE TOWER XVII - THE STAR XVIII - THE MOON XIX - THE SUN XX - JUDGEMENT XXI - THE WORLD XXII - THE FOOL
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buckypascal · 2 years
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Hey, maybe next time I’m in town, I could take you out to dinner. Yeah, or maybe we could just skip all of that and just...
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mattmurdeaux · 2 years
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Jennifer really puts into perspective how unhinged Matt is 😂
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