#dont care for discourse

[arowrath]

saw a tweet the other day that was like "outlawing diy hrt would kill trans people" which, yes, i agree. however it is already illegal for trans men. which is something i feel like people just ignore in discussions about diyhrt. i've also seen tweets along the lines of "it's easy to access and dose and it's not explicitly illegal so if you're concerned about us anti trans laws you're being stupid". which, the first part is completely untrue when it comes to testosterone, and the second part shows a mindblowingly uncompassionate view on anti trans legislation and is a genuinely bafflingly horrible thing to say to people who are scared for their lives and their futures

#text #the second tweet the person followed it up with 'stop telling me about trans men i dont care i only care about trans women and cis chasers' #which erm. what the fuck is wrong with you 👍 #discourse #transandrophobia

[cloudysfluffs]

REALLY considered not posting this one.......might delete later

ns//fw and/or ki//nk blogs please dni!!!

#PLEASE READ THESE TAGS: #I AM NOT A VIV///ZIEPOP SUPPORTER!!!!!!!!! I ACTIVELY DISLIKE HER #i have been watching haz/bin with my boyf. and for funsies weve been rewriting and redesigning it in its entirity bc....yikes #imm not adding this to my fandom list bc i dont like. the shows lol. so im not gonna do requests or anything probly #this is a one time thing featuring my redesigns bc i refuse to draw them how they really look you cant make me #anyway please dont unfollow me for posting this 🙏 (/j you can do what you want) #tickle art #hazbin hotel tickle #lee!husk #ler!angel dust #my art #please dont send me discourse about this i dont care if you Like The Show just take this at face value <333333333333

[silly-media-enjoyer]

reminder that being queer is not a medical condition and you don't have to fit in a specific set of symptoms to use certain labels. just call yourself whatever you'd like even if you don't fit in the commonly accepted definition.

#as long as your intentions are good then i dont care what you call yourself #queer #mspec gay #mspec lesbian #bi lesbian #pan lesbian #lesboy #queer discourse #cw queer discourse #yes this includes “cishet” men

[transfaguette]

everyone in the "fiction does/doesn't affect reality" debate is frankly very annoying and treat it like this all or nothing thing and misappropriate the language of media studies to win the stupidest flame war on this website. I don't even want to engage with the question because I find it that pointless and anti intellectual.

#i dont care if this sounds pretentious #discourse

[howtotrainyourrei]

a redraw of a rwrb scene but its james and reggie!!!

#i like this a lot but idk something feels off to me?? #theres literally no distinguishing characteristics for either james or reg but its them trust me bro #ALSO I DONT CARE ABOUT THE DISCOURSE RWRB IS SUCH A GOOD MOVIE #IF YOU HAVENT SEEN IT GO WATCH IT RN #red white and royal blue #rwrb #rwrb fanart #idk if this counts as rwrb fanart since its mostly marauders but wtv #regulus black #james potter #regulus black fanart #james potter fanart #marauders fanart #jegulus #jegulus fanart #marauders #my art #if you saw me post this before no you didnt #i forgot to add my little watermark

[loomingtwilight]

i love neuvifuri’s dynamic and relationship. like. imo they are the epitome of “we are inseparable, we are in love in every way, we are soulmates not by birth or due to fate binding us inexplicably but because we spent those 500 years being the one constant in each others lives and weve come to know each other the best, but we are simultaneously strangers. we never truly knew each other during all that time.“

and neuvillette knew for so long furina was keeping a secret from him and it pained him to force that secret into the light, but he knew he had to in order to save fontaine, and despite that he still wanted to do it as gently as possible. to make the trial the last resort if the travelers conversation didnt work. after the final events of the archon quest, he let furina go wherever she wished, he (if im remembering correctly) gave her a nice house and enough funds to do as she pleased and live comfortably. he used his new authority over hydro to give her a vision made specifically for her, the very first vision he has given out. he has made it as clear as day that she is welcome to talk to him, to ask to have tea, to ask him for whatever or simply just to talk.

neuvillette using those actions to say “i hope you let me know who you truly are, and allow me to stay in your life for as long as you wish, but i love you so i will not force you.”

#anyway new comfort m/f ship dropped. #genshin impact #furina #neuvillette #neuvifuri #i hope this is comprehensible to anyone other than myself. sometimes i completely lose track of my point when ranting about my blorbos #and in addition to that i also just have trouble verbally or textually translating thoughts into words that exactly describe my feelings #ALSO! this doesnt even have to be romantic. i equally adore platonic and queerplatonic interpretations #i just also love the romantic feelings between the two but feeling scared to act on it #especially from furinas perspective bc shes desperate to relearn who she is #and as much as she truly loves neuvillette shes hesitant to start approaching those feelings #again bc she is just starting to catch up on lost youth + a little bit of that fear of vulnerability near inherent in any relationship #yeah im super normal about them why do you ask? #genshin #genshin neuvillette #genshin furina #also i dont fucking care if you dislike neuvifuri and believe in whatever ship supremacy. idc leave me alone i dont want ship discourse. #let me enjoy my blorbos in peace or ill block you

[statementlou]

i feel like i can talk to you about this because you have rational opinions. so louis bought a starbucks coffee at the airport and the fandom on twitter are eating him alive, calling him evil and wishing he goes to hell. i’m disappointed since starbucks is on the list of brands to boycott but i feel like this reaction is too much? someone even said jay would be disappointed in him, but people said that was taking it too far. i don’t know, i love louis and i’ll keep supporting him and his music but the fact he can be a careless millionaire is disappointing

1. thank you sweetie I would boop if I could 2. oh my god it's a fucking cup of coffee and if people think that's the worst thing Louis, a multi millionaire, has ever done financially they need a reality check! His money will be handled by bankers who are putting it into all kinds of evil fucking shit that he won't even know about, it's actually very hard to know or control that and there is no way trying is even on his radar. That's a passive thing and not on purpose; but the fact that people don't bother to know about that or care really speaks to how performative this kind of online approach to activism is, that they only care about image rather than effect (the effect of his investments would be easily thousands of times more than any number of coffees or even of the promotion Starbucks might get from him holding it.) But furthermore buckle in cause you hit a nerve: Starbucks isn't even an actual organized boycott target as concerns Palestine because THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT financially! The official BDS movement calls for boycott of very specific and pointed targets of which Starbucks IS NOT ONE it's literally just an online trend which is not the same as an actual boycott to materially impact a target! Losing them money is always great, they are a crappy union busting small business killing corporation, but it has zero direct effect to help Palestinians unlike supporting the meaningful boycotts called for by BDS. I don't think Louis has decided to buy starbucks because he has this analysis, but to me it's a pretty important point. Him crossing an actual picket line (playing Israel, playing Eurovision [lmaoooo that thought tho], waving an Israeli flag god forbid) would be a very different situation and something that would trouble me so the distinction matters to me. But I get that to people on twitter, that's what they feel like he has done. To which I would say...

There are so many fewer ways to help Palestine than we would wish, and it's SO hard to deal with feeling so powerless right now in the face of such horror, so I love that people feel so strongly about doing whatever they possibly can. But worrying about consumer spending, even on BDS targets, is perhaps the least effective of the things a person can do. Note that BDS boycotts do not mostly focus on asking people not to buy things; they list the products that are especially complicit, but the main work of the movement is to get large investors (corporations, public institutions, whole governments) to divest from the companies targeted because that actually hurts them enough that it becomes less profitable to continue to collude with Israel than to drop them as clients. Consumer spending is not enough to do this. It's easy and doesn't require doing actual work but it's basically virtue signaling, not organizing. Just NOT doing something (yes including voting) is not enough! I personally choose not to give my money to certain corporations because it feels bad to me and I can't stomach doing it, even if they never notice me doing it. But if I was running out of fuel and the only nearby station was a Chevron, I would spend a few bucks there and not beat myself up about it because it will have zero impact on their overall profit reports but a LOT of impact on my life. And if I was in the airport for the second time in mere days after circumnavigating the globe and playing a massive show and doing press and fan service before even having time to adjust time zones and about to get on another flight to another country I might buy a fucking coffee from whatever coffee shop was in there too! But Louis isn't me and I'm gonna be real honest I would be real surprised if he KNEW there was a boycott or gave a shit- he is not a political activist! It's reasonable to be disappointed if someone behaves not how you want them to, but just in general responding to being disappointed in people by lashing out at them is... not it. Not useful, not rational, and not actually an okay way to act to other people. Louis is an awesome sweet caring person who I believe tries hard not to have a negative impact on anyone directly and who cares very much about others; if that's not enough for someone to be a fan of him, okay then they should not be a fan of him! But warning: they're not going to be able to be a fan of anyone else either. No one is pure and perfect... maybe that energy would be better spent trying to make a meaningful difference in the world, and a great first step in that IMO is to recognize and challenge your inner cop. The better world I want to live in doesn't include policing other people, not on twitter and not anywhere.

#anyway just read the BDS link! #I'm pretty sure starbucks dont even have stores in israel. this whole 'boycott' is such a fucking waste of energy istg DO SOMEtHIGN USeFUL #comrade louis.... or not lol #to be clear... that tag is a bit of a joke to me. he's a fucking millionaire! the rich are not our political saviors! #he cares and he tries and he is better than 99% of people. but he is not john brown okay #if people had class analysis wrt to capitalism rather than just image concerns... well. it would be better. #palestine #long post #sorry :( #starbucks discourse

[sprucewoodmpreg]

hi vaguely serious messy post about hermitblr and new members and just. letting everyone know that we’ve had history with cc interaction on here before that i think would be useful for people to learn about

Trafficblr/Hermitblr has seen a lot of growth lately, largely in part from people migrating over here from the DSMP side of MCYTblr. This in of itself is completely fine! New people jumping onto the bus with us are always welcome, and the growth of the community as a whole is really nice to see.

However, I have noticed a lot of these newer blogs sharing the same very specific behaviours, and if possible, I’d like to just make a few things about the community and our history clear. Because this isn’t DSMP, and the CCs here handle content creation and their own fanbases very differently to them.

While I’m not going to go in-depth on 2019 since I don’t have nearly as much information about it as other people do, I would like to say that back then, Hermitblr was kind of an active war zone. It was comparable to how Hermittwt is now, with infighting about shipping and similar topics being the norm (however in Hermitblr’s case many of these argument were far more personal due to the smaller fandom size). What I want to point out specifically however, is when one of the CCs, Cleo, was thrown into the community infighting. I don’t remember the specifics of it, but she was sent an ask asking about shipping, and her opinions on it, and eventually dealt with so much backlash that she was forced to leave the site entirely (this post here has a slightly more comprehensive summary, if need be).

I’m just a little concerned, because there seems to have been a slight increase in that demographic of people recently. Specifically, members of the community who want to rely on CCs to dictate what happens in fan spaces; for them to give us bullet point lists of what their exact boundaries are for every single situation.

This rarely ends well. As in, it almost always just causes infighting and hostility. There will always be people making content that will “break boundaries”, regardless of any creator’s wishes. However, this is usually mitigated by the fact that many of these CCs aren’t on Tumblr (at least not anymore....mostly). The problem arises when members of the community attempt to act as Heroes Of Justice, and go out of their way to send asks to other blogs, informing them exactly of how they’ve broken the boundaries of some 40 year old adult. This is all despite the fact that said adult will....never see whatever post went against their wishes. It just encourages policing and this weird superiority....thing, where despite the lack of content creators, people are still fighting to make sure that the site is clean from any possibly upsetting posts.

I say this all while also acknowledging that many of the creators in this sphere also don’t have a very comprehensive understanding of how fandom interacts with their “characters”. To them, “shipping” has always been RPF, and there are so many other aspects of the community that simply can’t be explained easily, as they haven’t been immersed in this culture like we have. This is to say that asking for “boundaries” is likely to get you a very confused and unhelpful answer, as the Hermits have always had a very different way of interacting and viewing their fanbase than the DSMP creators do. There is no “c!” or “cc!” to them, to put it simply.

Essentially, the Hermits are adults. They’ve been doing content creation for years, and I can guarantee you they’ve seen worse things in their lives than art of their Minecraft character kissing another Minecraft character. They’ve dealt with this shit before, and if they wanted it to stop, they’re free to make a post about it whenever want. And yet, they haven’t. They leave fandom up to us. Boundaries and rules and infighting and just...all of that? Let’s leave it to the Twitter users, please. Post what you want, make sure to tag your posts correctly, and we’ll all be fine. 

Also, while I’m going to try not to rehash any discourse about inviting CCs to Tumblr, I also do just want to implore you guys to consider that the environment on Hermittwt is partially the way it is because of the active presence of the Hermits there, with people flocking for attention or a single notice, and obsessively checking posts to make sure they’re not potentially “boundary-breaking” and such. Please just consider that many people are here to avoid the dynamics of that site. Tumblr is a site for fans, not for the CCs. So we create content here for ourselves, and not for them. Having creators join almost always leads to the culture of their fanbase on here changing, with content posted in the maintags being catered more towards them rather than the fanbase. (This isn’t to say that they can’t join!! But at least keeping in mind why many of us are here in the first place and weighing that against potential CC interactions would mean a lot).

I fear that my point may have been lost a little bit, but I hope my explanation at least brings a little bit of light to why many members of the community here are wary of Creators coming over to the site, and also of how many newer blogs tend to treat the CCs. Hermitblr has had some really bad history in the past when it comes to this stuff, and seeing newer fans bring over similar ideas from DSMPblr just worries me a little bit.

TL:DR - Just...please treat the Hermits like the adults they are, and keep in mind they have a very different dynamic with their fanbases to the DSMP creators. Asking for “boundaries” and granting CCs control of the fanbase will likely lead you nowhere; attempting to police fanspaces here just brings up bad memories of times when Hermitblr was a much more miserable place to be in. Plus, if you want CC interactions, please just go to twitter. Nobody here wants to deal with an attempted “cleanse” of the site to make it more palatable to CCs.

#i hope this is ok. again im not. trying to police or be a ''fandom mom'' or fucking. whatever #just giving my 2 cents on the subject. take it or leave it i don't care im not the boss of you and you dont have to listen to me #also gen if you see this and want me to remove your post just send me an ask and i'll take it out #discourse #if i said anything goofy or fucked up lmk because while i did try 2 proofread this im also not very concise nor clear #just gonna hit post. assuming this isn't gonna get more than like. 20 notes anyway so i likely wont have to worry abt ppl getting mad @ me

[aroaceacacia]

re: the annoying fandoms poll that mcyt won i understand the impulse to say "well MY section of the fandom isnt as bad" i promise you that it is or has been just as annoying. this is mostly directed at hermitcraft fans but is also meant as a general statement: people outside our fandom do not differentiate between servers. we are all watching minecraft youtubers. we are stronger when we are united, even in our differences. your guys are awesome but you're not better for liking these guys more than some other guys. dsmp is dead there is no "enemy" anymore. The Evil Is Literally Defeated You Can Stop Throwing Dsmp Fans Under The Bus Now. we are all cringe and we are free

#u dont even have to LIKE any other servers or guys besides ur own. and u can have dnis if u want i dont care. but we cannot keep doing... #... the 'not like other girls' thing. WE ARE ALL OTHER GIRLS. AND THATS OK!!!! #bearvocalizations #discourse #ig!! #if anything this sort of attitude kind of proves the annoying fandom poll right.

[its-just-fern]

i wanna hear you rate fern ships

#ask #not doodles #i genuinely dont know many fern ships because there arent really any #im not gonna bother discoursing about the last one. ill just block you i dont really care

[sparkystarlight]

anyway forcing ppl to conform to the exact description of the orientations/identities they choose is completely against the spirit of queerness

#discourse #lgbtq discourse #lgbtq #i dont care if straight men call themselves lesbians anymore. it doesnt make them part of the community. #and ousting mspec lesbians is forcing out ppl who need our support #its mostly nb lesbians saying shit abt mspec lesbians too. youre in no place to talk

[smultronviol]

Honestly I think the most unforgivable crime comitted by the new ATLA adaptation is bringing back the fucking kataang/zutara discourse🥰

Like, I can forgive a lot, but I can't forgive the fact that my own eyes, in the year of our lord 2024, have to be subjected to takes I first saw on 2011 DeviantArt

#tbf not to poke the hornets nest but its honestly just zutara people complaining abt 'haters' and being 'bullied for their ship' #like could you guys at least double check that the 'hater' opinion ur disagreeing w has actually been expressed by anyone THIS DECADE lol #atla #natla #avatar the last airbender #zutara #kataang #|<- REALLY poking the hornets nest by maintagging these lol. but you know what. maybe i do wanna fight. just to feel something #in that case to be clear im not talking abt zutara fanart or whatever im specifically talking abt the dumb discourse #y'all might not have been in the trenches but i was there and boy was there so much DUMB SHIT from both sides #i dont even care abt either of them lol. literally babys first fandom experience and i had to learn QUICK to avoid both #of them like the fucking plague #honestly is the concept of a 'shipping war' still a thing even? #i havent really been involved in fandom for a while lol but it just feels like such an early 2010s thing #looking at these posts in the atla tag really feels like a time window back to like 2014. even the tone #like is that still a thing? #are you guys bringing back the concept of 'lemon' and 'no flaming plz' next #you really dont want to revive 2012 fandom culture guys fucking trust me

[blazevillains]

i think twitter needs to learn tumblr history. babygirl we already had that discourse and it ended badly. check page 84 of your textbook luv

#in general but WE ALREADY DID THIS!!!! IT WASNT GOOD FOR ANYONE INVOLVED AND NOW WE DONT CARE!!!!! #discourse

[arowrath]

if u can't hear trans men talk abt how we are affected by transphobia without deciding that means we automatically hate trans women i think you're actually operating under levels of brainrot incomprehensible to anyone who talks to other queer people in real life

#text #discourse #this is about a post i saw that said. quote. -> #''if you see someone posting under the transandrophobia or transmisandry tags in your feed #careful! you've got someone in your feed that really doesn't like trans women!'' #Be soooo fucking serious. LIke i dont even know what to say atp it's incomprehensible

[natjennie]

okay i havent been keeping up with all the izzy discourse and meta recently, but I'm curious, as compared to s1, how is s2 izzy hitting you?

#im not gonna say my thoughts bc i dont want to bias the results. #please dont give me specifics i dont care about the discourse i just want to know #ofmd #ofmd s2

[piosplayhouse]

Something something Jiang Cheng horrible person for capturing demonic cultivators but to be honest you know what would be hilarious. If the Jiang sect disciples every week just went and paid someone to run around pretending to be a demonic cultivator for JC to capture and yell at for a few hours. Like sect leader enrichment. Throwing meat filled pumpkins into his cage to let him burn off some steam

#dont @ me with discourse i swear to god i do not care how this isnt canon im just trying to live laugh love #mdzs #mo dao zu shi #jiang cheng #JC #gdc #the grandmaster of demonic cultivation #cql #chen qing ling #the untamed