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americassoldierboy · 2 months
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https://x.com/Gingerhazing/status/1302464666887581696?s=20
God I wish this happened in the musical
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mistress-of-gillikin · 8 months
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The Wicked die alone.
(Original Photo of Glinda by Joan Marcus)
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gelphiegalpals · 3 months
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friendly reminder that GLINDA TOPS you may go back to your regularly scheduled scrolling
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joulienne-art · 11 months
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Glinda, my favourite fictional character of all time. ♡
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festivating · 28 days
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Hey, weird question. I always see in stories people referring to Glinda's parents as Larena Upland and Highmunster Arduenna, but I went to double-check in the first book and she mentions twice that the Arduenna clan name comes from her mother's side. She says in the second chapter: 'Then I must overcome my natural shyness. My name is Galinda. I am of the Arduenna Clan on my mother’s side.' And then when they are meeting the Wizard: 'Oh, you useless thing, all talk and no—I’m Glinda from Frottica, if you please, Your Highness, descended matrilineally from the Arduennas of the Upland, and this, if you please, is Elphaba, the Thropp Third Descending from Nest Hardings. If you please.'
So I was wondering if you know how family names work in the Oz lore. Such as, if Highmunster is actually Upland, would Larena be called Lady Upland? I've been trying to write for practice, and the last name situation always gets me stuck.
Ah yes. The confusion regarding Glinda's parents comes from Maguire retconning her mother's last name in the third book. Kind of. Now I may be wrong about this but we never learn anything of Glinda's dad in the first book, it was always her mother brought up as being "of the Arduennas of the Upland." That made me think "Arduennas of the Upland" was the whole nobility thing and Glinda's dad was just some random guy, hence why her "good blood" was only from "one side."
BUT THEN. In the third book there's a very stupid and pointless family tree that shows her mother as an Upland and her father as an Arduenna. And in the fourth book, Glinda even refers to her mother as an Upland, and that as the reason why they're filthy rich. In my opinion that's just a continuity error? Because then does that mean the Uplands are the ones with the noble blood? And her father was an Arduenna this whole time when he was never mentioned before?
Maguire. What. Tbh, to this day I still don't know if I'm missing something there.
As to whether or not she'd be called Lady Upland, that's very much up to you I would say, since you get to assign Glinda's parents whatever last names you prefer thanks to canon being so messy there. Glinda herself is called Lady Chuffrey after she gets married, so there is precedent to women taking their husband's last names!
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ot3showdown · 1 year
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wickedlyqueer · 2 years
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i've been thinking of starting the wicked novels. have you read all 4 novels? are they worth the read?
I have read all 4 novels, yes. And whether they are worth it or not... heavily depends on what you want to get out of them tbh.
WHAT TO PREPARE FOR:
dense prose that clearly has its roots in post-modernism. If you're not willing to read long sentences that begin with a deep analogy for racism and end with some sort of sexual innuendo or disturbing event, this is going to be a hard read for you.
Just. So much sexual stuff. which ironically enough you can also easily read over. (The second time I picked up on it sooo much more than the first time reading it. but in my asexual defense, how tf should i have known what "dragonsnaked" meant).
Similarly to the bullet point above: you can easily read over incredibly important plot points. This is because Maguire sometimes doesn't bother to elaborate; skips years within a single sentence; and is unforgiving to the mind who wanders while reads. There's a reason my notes look like this:
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No consistency in character arcs whatsoever. This isn't your average fanfic or even YA novel. Just to put it into perspective: the book is called "The Life And Times of the Wicked Witch of the West". Which is just "Elphaba's Life". But Elphaba barely focalizes (her point of view), and when she does, it's at a point in the book where she's starting to lose her goddamn mind, so there's always a sense of an "unreliable narrator". So just know going in that the politics of Oz have the center, and especially in the later books all characters start to blend together, with a similar tone of voice and sense of humor.
Maguire—bless him and may god help him—cannot write women. He tries, he really does, but anything about the women anatomy is so unappealingly written and I was not the least bit surprised to learn he's gay lmao. He also has a tendency to turn women (especially when they get older) into "waifs". When in the fourth book he describes Glinda as being sad she never got kids I wanted to scream and rip my fucking hair out. Glinda Upland of the Arduenna Clan would never want to be a mother. She'd fucking hate it. And I'll forever hold it against Maguire for ever having suggested otherwise. (He also did something similar to one of my favorite side characters in the second book; Sister Apothecaire. She gets an absolute character assassination by the fourth book).
The biggest "reveal" in book four was literally spoiled by the family tree in the beginning of the book. 🤦 so there's a built up for like 300 pages and all the while you're like "WE KNOW!! WE ALREADY KNOW!!" which made book 4 a particularly frustrating experience imo.
WHAT TO LOOK FORWARD TO:
Understanding fanfics and other fan work much better. A lot of fanfic is based on a mix of musical and book ("booksical"). Even minor characters like Pfannee, Shenshen, Milla, Crope & Tibbet, will make an appearance, even when a fic is more musical based. This was the reason I decided to read the books too back in the day.
Also understanding (popular) interpretations in fanfics better. Like. I tend to write Elphaba as intersex, non-binary and bisexual. That looks very out of the blue when you only have the musical's context, where Elphaba is played by mostly feminine women. But once you read the book you look at those same headcanons and go "word".
Delicious gelphie (sub)text is there, if you want to look for it. But you do have to look for it (twas written in the 90s, lads).
Very queer, actually! And not just in the sense of like "there's a lesbian couple" like we see nowadays in media, but it's just... present. This is written by a gay man, and it shows. You can see queerness popping up everywhere. There's a lot of sexuality and gender stuff going on. And even though nobody goes "I am a trans man" or whatever, you sometimes read stuff and go "that's gender dysphoria babe, idk what to tell ya"
Once you get used to Maguire's writing style... he actually can write some pretty gorgeous prose and he writes with a lot of wit. I like his sense of sharp (dark) humor.
WORLD BUILDING! I honestly just read the other three books for world building for my own fics, more than anything.
FINAL VERDICT:
I do generally recommend reading at least the first book. Especially the first half of the book is just so solid. There's a reason why "Shiz Era" is so beloved in this fandom. Easily the best chapters out of the entire series. It gives so much more backstory to the musical (and bigger Oz lore). The latter half drags on imo, but that's also kinda the point?
The other three books..... depends. I read them for my world building in my fanfics. And I honestly found the second book to be rather cathartic, because it really goes through the motions of mourning Elphaba and that's what I kinda needed after the devastating ending of the first book, but I've heard other people say book 2 was their least favorite.
Basically. If Maguire hasn't utterly broken your spirit by the first book, the other three books still have plenty of joys in them. (For instance, I fucking love Nor. and whenever Glinda shows up in the sequels, it's always the biggest joy ever!)
Usually I describe the novels as such: "I didn't enjoy reading them, but I sure am glad I've read them."
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tootiredforaname · 11 months
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STOP writing peter lukas as a grizzled stoic sea captain (literally how did we get here) and START writing him as he truly is (AJ soprano if he got social coaching from Glinda Arduenna Upland (of the upper uplands))
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everyonewantstobeus · 2 years
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what if glinda kept a diary and she wrote about elphie all of the time, even years after post-melting and a servant finds it days after she dies and said servant makes copies of the diary and distributes it anonymously. everyone finds out what really happened and how much glinda loved elphie and they all feel really guilty
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utakanalight · 5 years
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because i knew you i have been changed for good
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laneon · 5 years
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Why, Miss Elphaba, look at you. You're beautiful!
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mistress-of-gillikin · 2 months
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Truly, deeply loathing you loathing you. My whole life long.
(Original Photo Australasian Tour Company)
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Elphaba and Glinda from Wicked were in a queerplatonic relationship that got complicated with the whole Fiyaro thing.
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joulienne-art · 8 months
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work in progress ❣️
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sillysatyr-personal · 6 years
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So...
I never really understood why people liked Book Boq better than Musical Boq and then i started reading the book and I’m halfway through Boqs first chapter and then suddenly I thought “oh, okay. I understand now. I mean, I still love them both equally but I understand now.”
Also, sidenote: Boq was the first person to call Elphaba ‘Elphie’ and they were actually really good friends and I am so mad that the musical left that out
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ot3showdown · 1 year
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Final Bracket for the Ultimate OT3!!!
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Polls will be linked below STARTING ON: FRIDAY, APRIL 7TH
Round 4 - Semifinals: (April 29 - May 6)
Parker/Alec Hardison/Eliot Spencer (Leverage) VS Zuko/Sokka/Suki (Avatar: the Last Airbender)
Legolas/Gimli/Aragorn (Lord of the Rings) VS James T. Kirk/Spock/Leonard “Bones” McCoy (Star Trek TOS)
The final 32 Contestants are as follows:
Ninth Doctor/Rose Tyler/Jack Harkness (Doctor Who)
Parker/Alec Hadison/Eliot Spencer (Leverage)
Chel/Miguel/Tulio (The Road to El Dorado)
Geralt of Rivia/Yennefer Vengerberg/Jaskier (The Witcher)
Zuko/Sokka/Suki (Avatar: the Last Airbender)
Thanatos/Megaera/Zagreus (Hades)
Megamind/Roxanne/Metroman (Megamind)
Finn/Poe Dameron/Rey Skywalker (Star Wars)
Legolas/Gimli/Aragorn (Lord of the Rings)
Alucard/Trevor Belmont/Sypha Belnades (Castlevania)
Elphaba Thropp/Fiyero Tigelaar/Glinda Arduenna Upland (Wicked)
steve harrington/Nancy Wheeler/Jonathan Byers (Stranger Things)
James T. Kirk/Spock/Leonard “Bones” McCoy (Star Trek TOS)
Don Lockwood/Kathy Selden/Cosmo Brown (Singin' in the Rain)
Merlin/Arthur Pendragon/Guinevere (BBC Merlin)
Will Stronghold/Layla Williams/Warren Peace (Skyhigh)
Joaquin Mondragon Jr./Maria Posada/Manolo Sánchez (Book of Life)
Link/Zelda/Ganon (Legend Of Zelda)
Wolfgang Bogdanow/Kala Dandekar/Rajan Rasal (Sense8)
Donald Duck/José/Panchito (Disney/Three Caballeros)
Lito Rodriguez/Hernando Fuentes/Daniela Velazquez (Sense8)
L/Light Yagami/Misa Amane (Death Note)
Lonnie/Kyle/Rogelio (She-Ra & the Princesses of Power)
Will Herondale/Jem Carstairs/Tessa Gray (The Infernal Devices/Shadowhunters)
Troy Barnes/Abed Nadir/Annie Edison (Community)
Danny Fenton/Sam Manson/Tucker Foley (Danny Phantom)
Neal Caffrey/Peter Burke/Elizabeth Burke (White Collar)
Dave Strider/Jade Harley/Karkat Vantas (Homestuck)
Chiaki Nanami/Hajime Hinata/ Nagito Komaeda (Dangan Ronpa)
Blue Sargent/Richard Gansey III/Henry Cheng (The Raven Cycle)
Adrien Agreste/Marinette Dupain-Cheng/Kagami Tsurugi (Miraculous Ladybug)
Ferris Bueller, Cameron Frye, Sloane Peterson (Ferris Bueller's Day Off)
The bracket is seeded so that the ship with the most votes goes against the ship with the least (1 v 32, 2 v 31, 3 v 30, etc.)
Polls will be linked below STARTING ON: FRIDAY, APRIL 7TH
Round 4 - Semifinals: (April 29 - May 6)
Parker/Alec Hardison/Eliot Spencer (Leverage) VS Zuko/Sokka/Suki (Avatar: the Last Airbender)
Legolas/Gimli/Aragorn (Lord of the Rings) VS James T. Kirk/Spock/Leonard “Bones” McCoy (Star Trek TOS)
Round 3: (April 21 - April 28)
Parker/Alec Hardison/Eliot Spencer (Leverage) VS Chel/Miguel/Tulio (The Road to El Dorado)
Zuko/Sokka/Suki (Avatar: the Last Airbender) VS Danny Fenton/Sam Manson/Tucker Foley (Danny Phantom)
Legolas/Gimli/Aragorn (Lord of the Rings) VS Elphaba Thropp/Fiyero Tigelaar/Glinda Arduenna Upland (Wicked)
James T. Kirk/Spock/Leonard “Bones” McCoy (Star Trek TOS) VS Merlin/Arthur Pendragon/Guinevere (BBC Merlin)
Round Two: (April 14 - April 21)
Ninth Doctor/Rose Tyler/Jack Harkness (Doctor Who) VS Parker/Alec Hardison/Eliot Spencer (Leverage)
Chel/Miguel/Tulio (The Road to El Dorado) VS Geralt of Rivia/Yennefer of Vengerberg/Jaskier (The Witcher)
Zuko/Sokka/Suki (Avatar: the Last Airbender) VS Thanatos/Megaera/Zagreus (Hades)
Danny Fenton/Sam Manson/Tucker Foley (Danny Phantom) VS Troy Barnes/Abed Nadir/Annie Edison (Community)
Legolas/Gimli/Aragorn (Lord of the Rings) VS Alucard/Trevor Belmont/Sypha Belnades (Castlevania)
Elphaba Thropp/Fiyero Tigelaar/Glinda Arduenna Upland (Wicked) VS Lito Rodriguez/Hernando Fuentes/Daniela Velazquez (Sense8)
James T. Kirk/Spock/Leonard “Bones” McCoy (Star Trek TOS) VS Wolfgang Bogdanow/Kala Dandekar/Rajan Rasal (Sense8)
Merlin/Arthur Pendragon/Guinevere (BBC Merlin) VS Joaquin Mondragon Jr./Maria Posada/Manolo Sánchez (Book of Life)
Round One: (April 7 - April 14)
Ninth Doctor/Rose Tyler/Jack Harkness (Doctor Who) VERSUS Ferris Bueller, Cameron Frye, Sloane Peterson (Ferris Bueller's Day Off)
Parker/Alec Hardison/Eliot Spencer (Leverage) VERSUS Adrien Agreste/Marinette Dupain-Cheng/Kagami Tsurugi (Miraculous Ladybug)
Chel/Miguel/Tulio (The Road to El Dorado) VERSUS Blue Sargent/Richard Gansey III/Henry Cheng (The Raven Cycle)
Geralt of Rivia/Yennefer Vengerberg/Jaskier (The Witcher) VERSUS Chiaki Nanami/Hajime Hinata/ Nagito Komaeda (Dangan Ronpa)
Zuko/Sokka/Suki (Avatar: the Last Airbender) VERSUS Dave Strider/Jade Harley/Karkat Vantas (Homestuck)
Thanatos/Megaera/Zagreus (Hades) VERSUS Neal Caffrey/Peter Burke/Elizabeth Burke (White Collar)
Megamind/Roxanne Ritchi/Metroman (Megamind) VERSUS Danny Fenton/Sam Manson/Tucker Foley (Danny Phantom)
Finn/Poe Dameron/Rey Skywalker (Star Wars) VERSUS Troy Barnes/Abed Nadir/Annie Edison (Community)
Legolas/Gimli/Aragorn (Lord of the Rings) VERSUS Will Herondale/Jem Carstairs/Tessa Gray (The Infernal Devices/Shadowhunters)
Alucard/Trevor Belmont/Sypha Belnades (Castlevania) VERSUS Lonnie/Kyle/Rogelio (She-Ra & the Princesses of Power)
Elphaba Thropp/Fiyero Tigelaar/Glinda Arduenna Upland (Wicked) VERSUS L/Light Yagami/Misa Amane (Death Note)
steve harrington/Nancy Wheeler/Jonathan Byers (Stranger Things) VERSUS Lito Rodriguez/Hernando Fuentes/Daniela Velazquez (Sense8)
James T. Kirk/Spock/Leonard “Bones” McCoy (Star Trek TOS) VERSUS Donald Duck/José/Panchito (Disney/Three Caballeros)
Don Lockwood/Kathy Selden/Cosmo Brown (Singin' in the Rain) VERSUS Wolfgang Bogdanow/Kala Dandekar/Rajan Rasal (Sense8)
Merlin/Arthur Pendragon/Guinevere (BBC Merlin) VERSUS Link/Zelda/Ganon (Legend Of Zelda)
Will Stronghold/Layla Williams/Warren Peace (Skyhigh) VERSUS Joaquin Mondragon Jr./Maria Posada/Manolo Sánchez (Book of Life)
The final 32 Contestants are as follows:
Ninth Doctor/Rose Tyler/Jack Harkness (Doctor Who)
Parker/Alec Hadison/Eliot Spencer (Leverage)
Chel/Miguel/Tulio (The Road to El Dorado)
Geralt of Rivia/Yennefer Vengerberg/Jaskier (The Witcher)
Zuko/Sokka/Suki (Avatar: the Last Airbender)
Thanatos/Megaera/Zagreus (Hades)
Megamind/Roxanne/Metroman (Megamind)
Finn/Poe Dameron/Rey Skywalker (Star Wars)
Legolas/Gimli/Aragorn (Lord of the Rings)
Alucard/Trevor Belmont/Sypha Belnades (Castlevania)
Elphaba Thropp/Fiyero Tigelaar/Glinda Arduenna Upland (Wicked)
steve harrington/Nancy Wheeler/Jonathan Byers (Stranger Things)
James T. Kirk/Spock/Leonard “Bones” McCoy (Star Trek TOS)
Don Lockwood/Kathy Selden/Cosmo Brown (Singin' in the Rain)
Merlin/Arthur Pendragon/Guinevere (BBC Merlin)
Will Stronghold/Layla Williams/Warren Peace (Skyhigh)
Joaquin Mondragon Jr./Maria Posada/Manolo Sánchez (Book of Life)
Link/Zelda/Ganon (Legend Of Zelda)
Wolfgang Bogdanow/Kala Dandekar/Rajan Rasal (Sense8)
Donald Duck/José/Panchito (Disney/Three Caballeros)
Lito Rodriguez/Hernando Fuentes/Daniela Velazquez (Sense8)
L/Light Yagami/Misa Amane (Death Note)
Lonnie/Kyle/Rogelio (She-Ra & the Princesses of Power)
Will Herondale/Jem Carstairs/Tessa Gray (The Infernal Devices/Shadowhunters)
Troy Barnes/Abed Nadir/Annie Edison (Community)
Danny Fenton/Sam Manson/Tucker Foley (Danny Phantom)
Neal Caffrey/Peter Burke/Elizabeth Burke (White Collar)
Dave Strider/Jade Harley/Karkat Vantas (Homestuck)
Chiaki Nanami/Hajime Hinata/ Nagito Komaeda (Dangan Ronpa)
Blue Sargent/Richard Gansey III/Henry Cheng (The Raven Cycle)
Adrien Agreste/Marinette Dupain-Cheng/Kagami Tsurugi (Miraculous Ladybug)
Ferris Bueller, Cameron Frye, Sloane Peterson (Ferris Bueller's Day Off)
The bracket is seeded so that the ship with the most votes goes against the ship with the least (1 v 32, 2 v 31, 3 v 30, etc.)
Thanks to all of you who voted in nominees, to all of you who sent in asks talking about your favorites, and to all of you who are here now! I hope you enjoy!
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