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nightswatchdisbandmentera · 1 year

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There was this thread on r/asoiaf the other day that was complaining about how ASOIAF stans seem to lose all creativity when it comes to theorizing about Dany’s endgame. The OP argued that people are so sure that Dany’s story can only end in death even though nothing is set in stone and the story would still be very good if she lived to the end.

Predictably, the comments in the thread proceeded to double down on why Dany is 100% “doomed” and marked for death, which is very funny because not only did they completely miss OP’s point, but they started citing statistics that I have personally never heard of. How can anyone except George R.R Martin know what is 100% Dany’s endgame? Are there some mathematic equations I need to be aware of? Can someone share with the class please…

See, I agree with that OP big time. It’s a bit annoying to go through fandom spaces and have to see the same old posts about how Dany is an instrument of death and so she needs to be put out at the end of the story. Others will try to argue that she will die a hero as a means of being a bit more charitable. It seems that everywhere I go, Dany’s endgame always ends in death. There really is an obvious lack of creativity when it comes to speculating about her endgame.

I have an issue with using death to define Dany’s story because she is so much more than that. People get so caught up in the “bride of fire” and “daughter of death” aspects that they forget about what Dany actually does. She goes around liberating people! Yes she brings death…to those who harm others and deserve it. She is not bringing death wholesale to innocent people but she is bringing death and destruction to corrupt institutions. That’s the whole point of her character. She is a liberator. She is a savior! She is a dragon and the dragon cleanses. To the slaves she is the Breaker of Chains. To those who have glimpsed of the coming Long Night, she is the Prince(ss) That Was Promised. To all, she represents hope for the future. Hope for life and liberation from death.

Dany gained so much power throughout her arc so far and she could have taken a ship straight to Westeros, but she used her new found abilities to free people from slavery; she chose to liberate them from death. Really, that’s how I view Dany’s campaign against slavery. Slaves aren’t treated as people; their humanity is discarded, they have no will, no future, no hope. It’s almost like a death of the person though they may not physically be dead. Then in comes Daenerys Targaryen, a young girl with nothing but her dragons and her compassion, who says to them “you may not matter to them but you matter to me and I will save you”. Where the slaves didn’t have free will before, Dany gives it to them. I’m remembering the unsullied who didn’t even have names but Dany gave them the ability to pick and choose their own; which seems like such a small act but means so much more because names are important in humanizing people. She represents new beginnings.

Dany’s crusade across Slaver’s Bay is a big deal. She didn’t have to do it but she did it anyway. There was no personal gain for her but she did it because she cares so deeply about people. And then she gets to Meereen and decides to stay there because her “children” need her. She cannot and will not abandon strangers to a fate of death. And the people know that.

I’m just thinking of this quote:

“I am no lady,” the widow replied, “just Vogarro’s whore. You want to be gone from here before the tigers come. Should you reach your queen, give her a message from the slaves of Old Volantis.” She touched the faded scar upon her wrinkled cheek, where her tears had been cut away. “Tell her we are waiting. Tell her to come soon.”

- Tyrion VII, ADWD

And this one too:

“I told you, I know our little queen […] this Mother of Dragons, this Breaker of Chains, is above all a rescuer. The girl who drowned the slaver cities in blood rather than leave strangers to their chains can scarcely abandon her own brother’s son in his hour of peril.”

- Tyrion VI, ADWD

These people have never even met Dany but to them, she is hope and freedom and life! She is salvation, and that’s the point. She has spent much of her arc fighting slavery which is in preparation for her ultimate destiny as a savior to defeat the Others. Because they not only bring death to the land but they also threaten to enslave humanity through death. However, they cannot triumph over the Breaker of Chains; the great savior that is Daenerys Targaryen! That’s what her story has been building up to. And it’s not that Dany is saving people and peacing out (e.g., dying in a sacrifice). The point is that she herself persevered. And because she persevered, her people will too. It’s that her constant survival ensures that of others.

Dany grew up penniless, homeless, hungry, and even started out as a 13 year old slave to Khal Drogo. She could have given up but she didn’t because through everything, she is resilient. She is determination and perseverance in the face of death. When she walked into that funeral pyre she could have died, but she lived and emerged as the Mother of Dragons - these dragons that have been instrumental in freeing slaves and will ultimately be important in the Other’s defeat. She “died” in that pyre and was “reborn”, and this rebirth is moving her closer to ensuring that the rest of her people overcome death as well.

That’s why it’s more thematically meaningful for Dany to survive the Long Night, in my opinion. She, more than anyone, represents what it means to constantly fight against the odds. She represents what it means to go through all the worst life can throw at you and then not only come out on top, but turn around and use her own survival to ensure that of others’. She has lived through so many trials and persevered; she is the very embodiment of what it means to survive. Because her survival means that where death could destroy, it didn’t. Instead, life prevailed.

If she survives the Long Night, she remains a constant symbol - a beacon if you will - of what’s to come which is better days. Those who are suffering can look to her and see how she went through hell and lived. This would go a long way in boosting morale especially in the aftermath of the Long Night. Because think about it, the people fought against the Others and overcame death, but now they have to survive what comes next. I think Dany is needed because she has already gone through this cycle and will not only be an important figurehead during the War for the Dawn, but she will also be important as the people try to find a will to live beyond death (winter and the Others).

The last book is called A Dream of Spring so I assume this means that it will still be winter - though the Long Night may be over. People will still be hungry, they will be homeless, and they will be tired. They will not know what comes next only that they have to move forward and survive through this new hardship. And you know who has personally experienced these things and knows what it’s like? Daenerys Targaryen! She has survived through it all. So imagine just how powerful it will be for those who survive the Long Night to look at young Daenerys and go, “you know what, I think we’ll get through this one too”. And it will be even more poignant for Dany to lead them to that rest and restoration. Because it’s not just the people who need rest after fighting for so long, Dany does too:

“It is such a long way,” she complained. “I was tired, Jorah. I was weary of war. I wanted to rest, to laugh, to plant trees and see them grow. I am only a young girl.”

- Dany X, ADWD

People take the “dragons plant no trees” part that comes after to assume that Dany will remain stagnant for the next two books and it really is a pity. Someone pointed out a while ago (and I cannot for the life of me remember who this was) that Dany tends to pivot at the end of each book. As she continues to grow and develop as a character, her plans and priorities change. So it’s a bit sad how people assume that she will constantly be in a state of warfare. Because at the moment, Dany’s didn’t isn’t over yet.

Her campaign in Essos must continue and she still has the Others to fight in Westeros. So for now, she cannot truly settle down to plant trees. But she has been learning! She tried to do that throughout ADWD and I don’t see why that learning arc will be discarded at the end of the story. Especially when we consider that few others have actually been learning to lead. The only other character who has is Jon Snow but funny enough, many in this fandom think that he too is doomed to die. I’m not sure why George R.R Martin would kill the two up-and-coming leaders in the story who best answer “what was Aragorn’s tax policy?”

Ultimately, when all is said and done and there are no more wars to fight, I think Dany will finally find her peace and will learn that dragons can plant trees and watch them grow. As all the other heroes in the story, she will probably come out of the Long Night battered and bruised, but everything will be okay because she will still be alive; just like that Bran scene at the end of ACOK, which to me is the very definition of bittersweet. A better ending for her in my opinion isn’t dying in the cold of winter, but rather living and healing and finding a way to build a house with a red door, even though she cannot return to the one she knew as a child. Not only that, she can also provide this house with a red door” for the homeless, beaten, and bruised who survive the Long Night. It’s certainly possible that Martin could write Dany’s death in a way that is poignant and beautiful, but my personal preference is that she lives because of what her survival means for the larger themes in the story.

This whole post has been so jumbled and I’ve rambled a bit but I hope it made sense in the end lol. But anyway….the point is, I’m 1000% Team Dany Must Live!

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thatskindarough · 8 months

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My favorite part of the apology dance scene is that it’s straight up not an apology.

“I was wrong you were right,” that’s not an apology. It’s just not! An apology requires an understanding of what you did wrong in the first place, which is a problem because, well,

Crowley isn’t wrong. He’s not wrong and he knows he’s not wrong, but he’s not right either, and neither is Aziraphale. This argument isn’t a you were right I was wrong argument, it’s a conflict of interests with valid reasons from both sides.

Crowley didn’t come back because he suddenly decided he wanted to help Gabriel, he hates Gabriel. For Crowley to have properly apologized, he would have had to tell Aziraphale why he came back.

And that’s a problem, because then he has to tell Aziraphale about what Gabriel said. (Aziraphale knows Gabriel tried to kill him. He does not know Gabriel told him to shut his stupid mouth and die.)

It’s a problem, because then he has to tell Aziraphale about the danger he’s in by keeping Gabriel in the bookshop. About how he could be erased from existence. And Crowley can’t have his angel worrying about that.

#good omens #good omens season 2 #gos2 #good omens spoilers #Aziraphale #crowley #ineffable husbands #and their ineffable communication issues #the apology dance #in the grand scheme of things #it probably would not have changed much #but it would’ve given Aziraphale an understanding he clearly lacks #considering how lightly he takes the entire thing

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skulandcrossbones · 5 months

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i'm gonna need y'all to stop making a literal genocide all about which actors and actresses are Morally Upstanding enough to continue supporting please for the love of FUCKING god can you FOCUS

#i really don't want to support zionists either but i also recognise that the PEOPLE BEING ETHNICALLY CLEANSED are a TINY BIT MORE IMPORTANT #IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS #palestine

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navybrat817 · 6 months

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Me to any teammate who has a discrepancy on an order: Please don't beat yourself up. You're amazing at your job. Don't forget that. ❤️

Me when I have a discrepancy:

#navybrat rambles #work work work #in the grand scheme of things #my errors are less than 2% of the team total #and my QA has been 100%#need to give myself some grace #but i hate it #i can't be the only one #perfection doesn't exist #friendly reminder #are you reading my tags?#go drink some water #stay hydrated my friends

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liberty-barnes · 8 months

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on today's episode of I Need Therapy, Duck Tales 2017 really got me simping for donald when he gets his voice box

and like look

hear me out okay just hear my out

the speech? the voice? the authority?

it just works okay in a weird way it works

#libby rants #duck tales #duck tales 2017 #donald duck #dont judge me #look #in the grand scheme of things #i could be simping over someone much worse #so like #perspective

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muckyschmuck · 6 months

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i have this weird evil productivity demon in my head that’s like WOW YOU HAVE ONLY DRAWN NON COMIC ART TODAY YOU ARE USELESS and it’s also like WOW YOU HAVE ONLY DRAWN COMIC ART TODAY YOU ARE USELESS but it’s also like YOU LEFT THE COMIC OFF MID SENTENCE WOW YOU ARE USELESS +STUPID but also like WOW YOU LEFT THE COMIC OFF AT THE END OF A CHAPTER/PART, YOU NEED TO WORK ON A NEW ONE TO KEEP U BUSY OR YOU ARE USELESS

#hmmmdmmmmmnggghh #i’m mad that i left it off mid sentence but like #for selfish reasons #like the fact that i can’t read more #HONESTLY THE WHOLE BASIS OF THE COMIC IS SELFISH #I MAKE IT FOR ME TO HAVE MEDIA FOR ME TO READ OF MY OCS #maybe the productivity demon is just my thirst for content of my babies #maybe #in the grand scheme of things #in the eyes of society #i’m useless no matter what #so if u think ab itttttt #healthy nihilism

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sidheboggle · 3 months

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Damn. I wish my art were cuntier. I need to change my style fr fr no one wants to see this granny shit and even I'm sick of it tbh

#ramblings #I like it until I don't #99% I'm fine and then I consume art I like and realize how fucking ass and balls my art is #in the grand scheme of things

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bookwyrminspiration · 2 years

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incredibly displeased by those tik tok/instagram promotions for books that are a person making a yearning face, sometimes with a hand over their mouth, to dramatic or romantic music as line by line an incredibly out of context scene is shared and it's climax is something like "who did this to you" or they go "and there on the doorstep was him." You have given me practically nothing! I don't know what the plot is, I don't know what the age range is, I don't even know the genre half the time! All I've been given to entice me is a single line. And why should I read the book when I already know what the line is? There's nothing else to pull me in; I can just take this and leave.

And sure, I can look up further information and find out more, but it feels like all these stories are being taken apart algorithmically to find the pieces that best check the most boxes and that's what's being shared. Like the story itself doesn't matter, it's what tropes and "moments" it can contain and puzzle together into a story. I don't know, I just think a story should be more than plugging well-liked things together. It should be more than a snapshot. And while you can't fit the whole story into a tik tok or a reel or a youtube short or anything, the format of those right now feels so bland and generic

There is a place for simple literature and simple enjoyment but I think it's become too prevalent and overstepped it's place

#literature #booktok #bookstagram #bookblr #discourse #every time I see one and the caption is something akin to 'would you read this? *eyes emoji*'#I'm like how am I supposed to know if I would? books are dozens of thousands of words long. these hundred (if that) tell me very little #in the grand scheme of things #anyway don't mind me it's just been bugging me #there is a place for literature like that #and there is nothing wrong with enjoying that #but when it becomes /everything/?#that's where the problem lies #yes I can block things and that solves things for me personally. but that doesn't get rid of the wider issue

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messydiabolical · 9 months

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wow tumblrs new destop browser layout is just straight up a twitter copy huh? Thanks, I hate it

#in the grand scheme of things #a small problem #still annoying though

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ernestinapickman · 2 months

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Personally, of all the dramas out there, nothing hits like academic dishonesty. Unparalleled. Unhinged. Has me gasping and covering my mouth like an Edwardian housewife every time.

#walks the line of being scandalous enough to be juicy while also not mattering that much #in the grand scheme of things #and i’m talking like. plagiarism/data forgery scandals here basically #stella out

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ferrous-ironclaw · 3 months

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I never used to understand what people meant when they said "Poverty can be traumatic". After all, I grew up in a poor family and lived by myself on a shoestring budget from ages 18-26, and I wasn't traumatised, right?

I am now a grown adult man with a well paid job. I have enough saved for emergencies, and have enough spending money to afford trips abroad. I just had a moment where I had to shake myself and think "No, the grapes you bought as a healthy snack do not need to be saved in case you need to eat them as a meal".

It doesn't affect me often, but there are some moments where my instinct tells me to skip meals to save money, or to gorge myself at events with free food so I won't have to eat later, and it's then that I realise that actually, yes. It did traumatise me somewhat.

I don't think this gets talked about enough. Make sure your friends have enough to eat.

#poverty #food #trauma #it may not be a big thing #in the grand scheme of things #but it makes me shudder to think about how messed up that probably made me

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thermesiini · 5 months

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like idk i think that ultimately a lot of artists who are trying to get traction online so they can make a living through art are just mad at how impossible it is due to circumstances that are out of their control and a lot bigger and harder to pin down than the big bad ai art thing that they're using as a scapegoat

#and a part of it is apprehension towards new technologies and also no one wants to confront that fact that they only have one very #strict definition of art and that the use of ai as a tool for creating art #would challenge their beliefs too much #and this is something thats only happening on a small portion of the internet and really isn't that important right now #in the grand scheme of things #and instances of morally questionable of ai art kind of have nothing to do with what these people are getting mad about

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