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pratchettquotes · 3 months
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"What's a Zen?" he said.
The Fool's bells tinkled as he sorted through his cards. Without thinking, he said: "Oh, a sub-sect of the Turnwise Klatch philosophical system of Sumtin, noted for its simple austerity and the offer of personal tranquillity and wholeness achieved through meditation and breathing techniques; an interesting aspect is the asking of apparently nonsensical questions in order to widen the doors of perception."
"How's that again?" said the cook suspiciously. [...]
The Fool hesitated with a card in his hand, suppressed his panic and thought quickly.
"I'faith, nuncle," he squeaked, "thou't more full of questions than a martlebury is of mizzensails."
The cook relaxed.
Terry Pratchett, Wyrd Sisters
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aeshnacyanea2000 · 1 year
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‘What are they doing, those two?’ ‘I don’t know.’ ‘You’re king, aren’t you?’ Verence shifted uneasily. ‘But they’re witches. I don’t like to ask them questions.’ ‘Why not?’ ‘They might give me answers. And then what would I do?’
Terry Pratchett - Lords And Ladies
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dimity-lawn · 1 year
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Some books finally came in, and I just started Lords and Ladies last night.
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firstofficerrose · 1 year
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I love King Verence. He's trying so hard.
Nanny Ogg: I remember when you were just a man in a funny hat!
King Verence: *deep sigh*
King Verence: I still am, Nanny. It's just that this one is a lot heavier.
Verence is excellent.
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monstrous-tournament · 11 months
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Otto von Chriek, Industrial revolution/Ankh Morpork
King Verence II of Lancre
Reg Shoe, Ankh Morpork zombie
Mr Slant, Ankh Morpork zombie
Lu-Tze, History Monk (well, Sweeper, but affiliated with the History Monks)
Mrs Marietta Cosmopolite, dressmaker (not seamstress) of Ankh Morpork
Rufus Drumknott, Ankh Morpok
Ronald Rust, Ahnk Morpork
Mrs Evadne Cake, Ankh Morpork medium
Mr Hong, Three Jolly Luck Takeaway Fish Bar, Dagon St, Ankh Morpork
Ponder Stibbons, Wizard
Ruby, Troll singer (married to Detritus, so possibly Guards bracket?)
Sybill Ramkin Vimes, Ahnk Morpork (shows up primarily in Guards novels so possibly qualifies for their bracket)
Sargeant Jack Jackrum, miscellaneous as I'm not sure what bracket a human from outside Ankh Morpork would fit)
Excellent, thank you!
I think there might be enough characters for a "Streets of Ankh-Morpork" Bracket or something, with side characters like Mr Hong and Ruby, who populate those streets but otherwise don't figure that large in the plot! Thanks for giving me that idea! :)
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clownoff · 1 year
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May i submit Verence II of Lancre? From discworld. He was raised and educated in the fools guild and was occupationally a silly man until it was accidentally implied he was in line for the throne and ended up becoming king. (not actually true, but he was the better choice anyways so it works out.)
This dude looks sopping wet, i like him. Clown king of discworld has been accepted
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I don’t have the poll function on my end yet, but I am wondering...
Who do we think is the greater Poor Little Meow Meow / Wet Hen? Rincewind or Magrat Garlik or King Verence II?
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lileiv · 2 years
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here’s some things i’ve made over the last few months for the Discworld dnd game i’ve been running for friends. featuring odd mythical creatures, npcs, quest items for the party and so on.
feel free to use any of this stuff for your own adventures!
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spaceteenagers · 3 years
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Dont worry Magrat a true clown is coming
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Jingling Miserably Across The Floor // Verence II Playlist
Jester’s Playground - Robert Austin // Jokes Jokes Jokes - Austin Wintory // The King Must Die - Elton John // Store Room - Leonard Cohen // Hey, Ho, The Wind and The Rain - Robert W. Parker // Down Side of Me - CHVRCHES // Come Away Death - Hem // Never Ending Circles - CHVRCHES // Should Have Been Loved - Sunshine on Leith (Musical) // Sarabande - Royal Shakespeare Company // Smalltown - Runrig // Atoms - Runrig // ‘O mistress mine’ (2017) Instrumental - Royal Shakespeare Company
Painting: Stańczyk, Jan Matejko 1862
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la-niolue · 3 years
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He had formed the unusual opinion that the job of a king is to make the kingdom a better place for everyone to live in.
— About Verence II, Lords and Ladies
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pratchettquotes · 1 year
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"I thought that sort of thing was, you know," the king grinned sickly, "folklore?"
"Of course it's folklore, you stupid man!"
"I do happen to be king, you know," said Verence reproachfully.
"You stupid king, your majesty."
"Thank you."
Terry Pratchett, Lords and Ladies
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aeshnacyanea2000 · 3 years
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Both of them were so shy they immediately forgot whatever it was they were going to say to one another whenever they met, and whenever either of them did manage to say anything the other one misunderstood it and took offence, and both of them spent a lot of time wondering what the other one was thinking. This might be love, or the next best thing.
Terry Pratchett - Lords And Ladies
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firstofficerrose · 1 year
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I think there's a pretty good chance Verence is gonna get eaten by the vampires. That... would be unfortunate.
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noirandchocolate · 4 years
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It is believed in Lancre that the Fool's father was also King Verence I, who had a somewhat old-fashioned approach to the young women of the kingdom, and that he had been christened Verence by his late mother in memory of that royal, er, connection. However, the witches of Lancre have a slightly different, if unspoken, view of events.  King Verence I was indeed a ladies' man, but so was the Fool's official father, who achieved with kind words and a fetching manner what the King achieved by hammering on the door with his sword.  They also recall that the man left town hurriedly shortly after the birth of [Prince] Tomjon, and that the Queen was a rather lonely lady who may well have appreciated a little gentle attention on those long nights when her husband was exercising his droit de seigneur around the kingdom.  The witches are also midwives, and can count rather better than she could.  They're quite certain the Tomjon and the Fool are half-brothers.
Terry Pratchett and Stephen Briggs, “Turtle Recall: The Discworld Companion So Far” (Spelling out the ending of “Wyrd Sisters” and why Verence II was basically put on the throne despite having no royal blood, simply because he was Tomjon’s half brother and everyone assumed that therefore they must’ve had Verence I in common as a father.  I guess Fool Verence really was just named by his mum after the king just because ‘people like to name their kids after royalty.’  Either that or who knows, maybe she really had reason to think the king WAS her son’s father even though he wasn’t, whoops.  It’s all kind of a mess, isn’t it.)
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maiathebee · 5 years
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  Thus, we are given two choices for Lancre’s king.  Tomjon is the idealized man, given a plethora of perfections by the witches when he was an infant.  Verence II (the Fool) has been shown to be inconstant in loyalties and incompetent at the occupation he was born into.  In Shakespeare, according to Barber, the fool Touchstone “is a response, a counter-movement, to artistic idealization” (Barber 260).  Pratchett uses that device here; he undermines the idea of an ideal or magically qualified ruler by presenting us with an almost unbelievably human king.
I’ve only gotten stupider since college...
This strange situation draws parallels to the Elizabethan festival tradition of the Lord of Misrule.  In A Midsummer Night’s Dream, Shakespeare’s king for a day is Bottom – but in Lancre it is the king himself.  And like Bottom, Verence has allowed himself to believe in a sort of fantasy: that as a king he can make a difference.  Both men are rather pitiful, but Verence is the more morally admirable.
I used to just know stuff about stuff.
In this instance Pratchett is satirizing both propaganda and Shakespeare’s use of it. For instance, the ghost of the old king watches the play incensed because it  depicts him as humpbacked and doing things he never did. This is a direct reference to Richard III, and by equating the play within Wyrd Sisters to Shakespeare’s Richard III, Pratchett questions Shakespeare’s characterizations and alludes to Shakespeare’s tendency to write history plays that were suspiciously biased toward his monarch’s point of view.   For instance, in Richard III Shakespeare “for Elizabeth’s sake glorifies Richmond, the founder of the Tudor line,” and in Macbeth Shakespeare “for James’s sake glorifies Banquo.” (Smith 1016)
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When Death observes the play in Wyrd Sisters he is struck by how the play contains all the evils he thought humans would want to escape from; “every art humans dreamt up took them further in,” he thinks.
Obviously no one is reading this I’m just saving all my smart bits from this paper
In Shakespeare’s play, Hamlet recognizes this and is sure, before the play is staged, to manage the content of the words and they way in which they are spoken.  The witches – struck by the play’s ability to erode “the levees of veracity” and “carry away the past” only after the play has begun – must find a way to change the play’s course mid-production.   However, once they do, the play becomes an effective tool for their cause, revealing both Felmet’s regicide and his insanity, driving him to his death by the sheer force of the play’s revelations.
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