emphasizing different things
both noel and liam have spoken about the more... 'unconventional' side of their relationship. but they differ in what they choose to emphasize.
noel almost always emphasizes the ‘illegal’ aspect of it. he’s basically letting everyone know he can break the rules and get away with it. liam is a mere accessory in this situation. he’s the coke in the ‘coke in my cereal’ joke, a mere tool noel uses to convey edginess. noel is like a teenager who’s bragging about getting hammered or doing drugs for the first time.
"Liam's gotten all religious. It''s quite disturbing. He thinks he''s Abel for some weird reason. He wrote a new song called ''Guess God Thinks I'm Abel.'' And I thought, "Right, so you think you're Abel. That must make me Cain. Doesn't Cain kill Abel?" "But then the first line of the song is “You could be my lover.” I’m not too sure about that. That’s illegal, innit? It’s kind of illegal for two brothers to make love. It’s certainly frowned upon.”
"Oh me and Liam are head over heels in love at the moment. In some countries it's illegal but when you're on the road it's fine."
paul gallagher said in his book that noel ‘thrived on doing the wrong thing’:
liam’s appearance/physical desirability is another thing noel often mentions.
liam chooses to focus on other things. 1995, earls court:
he says twice that they *love* each other, the 'had sex last night' line follows as proof/reinforcement of that love.
years later:
early days - undying love, 'how much he loves me':
"Without a doubt. I don’t need to show my undying love for my brother. Listen, I adore that geezer. And I know he adores me. What do people want, me to fucking impregnate him or summat? [fondles huge imaginary bump] He’s only gone an’ got me up the fucking duff! To prove how much he loves me! Twins!"
'need his LOVE':
"I love him, I adore him, more than anyone else in the fuckin' whole wide world."
"I always thought that when he messed with me he was joking, that he really loved me. But I have the feeling that it is true that he does not like me. It is a pity. I love him"
noel looking at the masses vs liam looking at The One:
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Loch Lomond.
Another of my requests fulfilled
@motsimages asked for Loch Ness, or any Loch.
Loch Ness is a bit too far to do on a day trip using public transport, but here I am at Loch Lomond, arguably one of the most accessible of our fresh water lochs.
If you want to visit either catch a direct train at Queen Street Station Glasgow to Balloch, or from Central Station and change at Patrick. More pics to come, as always......🏴
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The Loch Lomond kiss - what was the reaction at the time?
I've been diving into #gcest and reading all sorts of super interesting observations, analysis, questions and answers, and this question was one that cropped up a couple of times, so thought I'd attempt to answer it as best I can.
For context: I'm a lifelong Oasis fan, but new to shipping the Gallaghers.
I do remember when that kiss appeared in the paper. And I do remember my reaction, and that of my friends. Obviously, I can't speak for a whole nation, or fan base; I'm just relaying my personal experience.
So how did people react? They were shocked. Nobody I knew thought it was funny, or cute, or sweet, or romantic.
'That's gross!' was the word I remember using (seems that word has fallen out of favour nowadays). All my friends - male and female - thought it was disgusting.
I was at uni at the time, and I'd shown my mother the picture on a visit home. She thought it was proof that modern society lacked a moral compass and thus was doomed. lol. Bear in mind, this parental opinion generally went with the entire grunge and post-grunge movement, maybe not so much with Brit pop.
Anyway, the shock didn't last because the image appeared once and, unless you held on to that paper, you didn't see it again as it wasn't published like that again (to my knowledge). Without the internet as we know it today to spread the image and amplify any subsequent chat/reaction, the kiss simply faded from people's collective consciousness. It quickly lost its Big-Dealness. Unlike today, we weren't given the means to dwell on it or analyse it. We just...moved on. Besides, there were so many other Gallagher antics making the news in those days.
Fast forward to today and we now have access to a plethora of historical video, photos, articles, gifs with slow-mo that we watch and rewatch endlessly, all the online musings that we read. And the more you watch, the more obvious and outlandish some of their antics appear (the numerous kisses, the numerous gropings, the questionable things said on live TV), until you're thinking HOW can this not have been talked about more over the years? Why isn't the entire fandom talking about this still?
I suspect it's just because your average older Oasis fan has put it to the back of their minds, like they did at the time. It's only the Gallagher shippers who really care, and we're in the minority.
I do wonder though...if there's a reunion and that image, along with all the different angles, starts to gain some traction with the new, young Oasis fans, how would Noel and Liam feel about it? Particularly as they have older kids now.
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