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twin-books · 1 year

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Hello I would like to know if there is any concept art with Marietta from Ladybug:Mini Menace

Hello there! There sure is! You certainly came to the right place! The annoying bit is how Tumblr only lets me go to 10 photos so I'm going have to be picky here. I have some Mini Menace covers. Now, as far as I'm aware, Thomas Astruc drew all of these and I must say he's a very talented artist! (Yes, I can compliment him too). I like seeing his art. And this is technically "not his best" stuff, if you want to go there. Since he's grown a lot since this and he already seemed to be pretty good at reference drawing. All the Mini Menace covers are spoofs on popular comic covers. Of course, I wouldn't expect anything less from someone who started out as a storyboard artist. So anyway, here are some of my favorites:

This next one is a fun one because it hints at Marietta's origins. Originally her father was meant to die and she was supposed to be a vigilante. She seemed to have got her powers, or her inspiration at least, from the necklace that her father died with:

And this next one seems to follow directly after it where she decides to become Ladybug and get revenge on the people who murdered her father. Eventually she was going to become a vigilante:

This one is just cute and I thought it would be fun to share because Miraculous season 4 actually makes a reference to this cover, specifically:

I love this next one the most. It's one of my absolute favorites:

Now this one is extra fun as this hints at the relationship between her and her Chat Noir. See, Marietta's original Chat Noir was supposed to be a mentor figure for her, much like Master Fu. A vigilante before the Ladybug. It looks like in this cover he has discovered her identity and she's trying to deny it but she knows she's been caught. It almost appears as if she's getting scolded:

Here's her using what I imagine is either one of her powers or her gadgets:

And, here, of course is a full-body action pose of Marietta's Ladybug from right when the show was probably picked up. This, I don't believe, was drawn by Astruc, but I could be wrong. But this is where it all truly began, I imagine:

Now, there isn't a whole lot more, but I do have a few more covers saved. Unfortunately there isn't a whole lot on Marietta. She shifts into Marinette very quickly after this, then goes through that "Bridgette" (I put this in quotes not to disrespect it, I actually very much love this name, it just isn't an official name used for her) phase, before coming right back to Marinette.

Thank you for asking about her! I had fun digging through my files! And lucky enough for you I had already organized my files a bit a week before this just to make sure I could find this stuff easier. Come to me any time about the concepts! I'm very happy to talk about them! Hope you're having a wonderful day, afternoon, evening, night, or whatever time it is where you are!

#anon ask #ask me anything #ask me about miraculous concepts #miraculous ladybug #marietta #miraculous concepts #ml concepts #marinette concepts #mini menace #thomas astruc #ml concept art

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raspberrydaisieschlb · 2 years

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Saw some people complaining about people calling Socqueline Bridgette or even the existence of Bridgette (I’m honestly just confused lol), so I made this reference with a couple extras to help people out.

I’ll be frank, I don’t really care for what you call them because I’m a PV fan, but if people complain, fight, or start discourse over really simple things, I can’t really sit down. I don’t know how bad it got, but it’s appearing on my feed, so I’m putting this here to hopefully clear the air.

(Never did an ID before, but I’m not sure about the image quality, so ID under cut!)

[ID: Five images lay on a gradient. From left to right:

Image of The Mini Menace Ladybug #17, with character sweating and backing away nervously from a red eye mask being handed to her. Labelled Marietta.

Image of an early concept of Marinette, with an ahoge and one arm behind her back, smiling. Labelled Concept Marinette

Image of a still from Ladybug PV, with character swaying her hips, arms behind her back, smiling. Labelled “Bridgette”

Image of a still from The Bubbler of Marinette Dupain-Cheng, hands on her hips and smiling. Labelled Marinette

Image of a still from the Jubilation trailer of new character Socqueline, smiling sheepishly. Labelled Socqueline

Under each image, there is bulleted text.

Under Marietta it reads:

-Earliest Concept (2005)

-”Mini Menace”

-Probably has a canon personality

-Wore stuff closer to Alternative Fashion

-Probably 18 (has a car)

Under Concept Marinette it reads:

-Company made (2012)

-Was part of a political commentary or something

-Has a canon personality

-Luck was a staple of her character

-Kung Fu

-Either had multiple love interests or one that wasn’t Cat Noir

-Same character in the PV

Under “Bridgette” it reads:

-Fanon character associated with the PV design

-Somebody somewhere called her Bridgette and the PV fandom agreed

-Seriously, if people say Bridgette, you can practically guarantee it isn’t canon

-Was given the name to help differentiate PV from 3D*

Under Marinette it reads:

-Canon (2015)

-Is the protagonist of the actual publicized show

-Lost some qualities from earlier concepts

-Gained new qualities not present in previous concepts

-In a kids show

Under Socqueline it reads:

-New canon character associated with the MOTW, but not the MOTW

-Cosplayer or soemthing

-Works at or owns a JOANN Fabrics

-What is this Moondancer crap

-Has a canon personalitiy

-I legit do not know why she resembles Marinette

-Not “Bridgette”

In the bottom left corner, there is text that reads: *Note: You are allowed to call this design Bridgette if you want. Nobody will stop you. But the amount of people that have mistaken fanon for canon is causing this to get very concerning. Bridgette’s name and personality was not created by anyone associated with the show. Please don’t ask the creators about this, the legitimately won’t know what you are talking about.

End of ID]

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halfahelix · 1 year

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Can you draw Marietta from "Ladybug: Mini menace?"

First of all, thank you for the request, anon!! It made my day when I saw it 🥺🥺💗

This was fun to dive into! The original concept art by Thomas really fits my style/vibe, and I LOVE the grayscale + monocolor red combo, probably too much haha. Although I could go for a more PG version like the cover that ended up at the end of The Evillustrator 😂

Honestly, I think the fandom is sleeping on this Marietta/early Marinette design, so I'm glad you and I can help it spread 😎

Wiki link

#ask #anon #miraculous ladybug #ladybug: the mini menace #ml fanart #fake comic book cover #marietta #marinette dupain cheng #tagging since it ~is~ the earliest version of her character #tbh Marietta being able to take off the mask at will is pretty neat #this was mostly inspired by the first cover but all of them are great in their own ways #I also love covers 5 and 15 #and I love the skirt and knee-high socks so I would definitely wear this outfit

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flightlessribbons · 10 months

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BEFORE CANON:

ML INHERITANCE AU: PT.1

In this AU, I really wanted to go for the world and vibes that were built in season 1-2, the concept art, and the ladybug PV, as well as the setting being changed to the early 2000s. Having Marinette’s life seem like a happy fashion game of the 2000s with a superhero secret was just such a fun concept to explore!

And all references for the concept art is from the artbook wiki*, so big thank you to all that have contributed to that archive!

Miraculous are handed down from the holder to a trusted next instead of a guardian. Kwamis are called faeries, and were created as the embodiments of emotions and ideals that have worked alongside humans for ages. Fae in the past have never been bound to a certain accessory to transform. If the humans had bonded with a faerie, they would just utilize any jewelry on their holder as a miraculous.

There’s different kinds of fae that have existed in the world, but the ones in the story are listed below.

The Ladybug fae represent luck and creation

The Black Cat fae represent destruction and rebirth

The Bee fae represent justice

The Fox fae represent truth

The Turtle fae represent wisdom

The Butterfly fae represent communication

There are multiple fae of a kind (so multiple ladybugs and black cats have existed in the past in different regions, and it is entirely possible for past ladybugs to have existed in the same time in different places for this reason) and used to be plentiful, but the number of fae have decreased dramatically because of the faerie Null.

There is only one faerie of Null, and he was an anomaly amongst the fae. He had no powers himself, but he had the ability to absorb other faeries and steal their energy and powers, becoming stronger himself this way. He seeks to destroy the rest of the fae; wishing to see humans lose sight of the ideals and emotions they stand for- ultimately losing themselves and becoming their own undoing and leading to their demise. Their destruction would lead to Null’s ideal empty world.

Over the centuries, Null had instigated problems to prompt out fae and their holders. After drawing them out and defeating them, he would steal their powers. Null also has the ability to share these powers he’s accumulated but has lacked control with this skill; causing him to scarcely use it in the past.

In a battle centuries ago, Tikki, Plagg, Trixx, Wayzz, Pollen, and Nooroo had faced Null. Null’s final attack had bound the six to the jewelry they were in, forcing them to stay close to the miraculous and limiting the amount of power their holders had access to.

Null was nowhere to be found after his final attack, and the now confined faeries entrusted their new miraculous to the holders while they slept inside of them to regain their strength.

Next: SABINE: MINI MENACE ERA

#mlinheritenceau #miraculous les aventures de ladybug et chat noir #miraculous #miraculous ladybug #ladybug #ladybug pv #tikki #plagg #wayzz #pollen #trixx #nooroo #null

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taldigi · 7 months

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In your relationship "board", who is the blond guy related to Félix (that seems that he's from his family)?

Gorgeous Nathan from the gym club.

Nathan was the previous name for one of the oldest versions of chat Noir. We're not sure if it was just a misreporting or if it really was his name but the version of Chat Noir that exists in the mini menace era /quantic kids era is often referred to as Nathan.

I like to depict him as an amalgamate of all of chat's worst traits. Largely because a huge amount of art does depict him as pushy and aggressive and kind of mean. He was the one that was annoyed by/is mean to Marinette.

But... He makes a real fun villian. If ML is supposed to be a romcom, he's the "bad boyfriend" character. He's selfish, he's blunt, he doesn't take no for an answer, he's inattentive to other's needs unless they serve his own, and oh my god he's so beautiful, and his smile makes your heart melt!

It's no wonder Marinette falls for him. How terrifying for our heroine. But what a great opportunity to tell a story, and to have her learn a lesson.

#gorgeous nathan from the gym club

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briiettapv · 3 years

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How about Marietta from "Mini Menace" and Felix from "Mini Menace"

ML Mini Menace is kinda,, 😳❤️

(wow a background-)

#miraculous #miraculous fanart #miraculous pv #ml fanart #ladybug pv #felix agreste #marietta cheng #felietta #mini menace #ml mini menace #ladynoir #ladybug #chat noir #I know it’s not Marietta-#but it’s technically is her #just as ✨ladybug✨#I wanted to draw the superheroes so there’s that :)#[insert destruction powers on Felix’s hand]#I forgot lmao

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team-leo-v · 2 years

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a few felixes i drew a while ago + "catwalker" cuz he cute

#miraculous ladybug #my art #ml fanart #mlfanart #fanart #ml spoilers #chat noir #felix agreste #felix graham de vanily #pv felix #mini menace chat noir #<<< he's so cute ok #ml kuro neko

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crizztelcb · 2 years

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Some random doodles that I made of that early chat noir design, I like the boy.

#miraculous ladybug #mlb #miraculous #ladybug and cat noir #chat noir #art #ml art #chat noir fanart #ml older version #chat noir mini menace #i love his design idk why #he looks like he's ten #ml fandom #ml fanart #doodles #crizztel art

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tizzymcwizzy · 4 years

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Adrinette April Day 16 - Rejected Heros

Reporter: Any and all information regarding these two should be reported to the authorities.

Adriano: At least they got our costumes right this time.

Okay, so the mini menace version of Adrien finally gets a name and it's Adriano! I don't know if I like it or if I hate it but it's here. Oh, and just for context this takes place in the mini menace universe where they are considered to be vigilantes instead of heros.

@adrinetteapril

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mothdotz · 1 year

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Drew this guy again! Its design is very much inspired by The Weeping Angel design made by @arcadeology

Think the fun little thing about it is that its “cloak” can consume whatever were to go inside of it, reducing that person/thing to nothing. Basically a void in there! I also imagine that Null is “trapped” in the school (the basement maybe?) which causes the place to become a feeding ground for akumas.

(I have no idea if this was expanded on, but I think it’s be neat if—as a parallel to Null imprisoning Tikki and Plagg in jewelry/an object— Null got trapped in some jewel at the end of the storyline for this AU).

#my art #mm au #the mini menaces au #I might redraw/redesign this later since it didn’t come out exactly how I wanted…but oh well!#in a literal sense it is trapped in the school. it’s hunting down Tikki and Plagg for them to reverse its imprisonment #if successful the three of them will have a super nice chat (with tea and crumpets as well!)#ml null #null!!#I have no idea how I’d go about the final imprisonment tho #maybe Felix or the group trick it #or something. but I don’t see Null as being a fool #though I do think that its disdain for humanity has caused it to limit how much it observed the world (due to bias and hatred)#<- don’t quote on that tho. I have no idea if I’ll stick with any of this #metal and magic #metal and magic au

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my-miraculous-headcanons · 5 years

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Heres some heacanons for the pv (what the show should have been personally): the thing that seperates brigettes timeline from marinettes is in the pv timeline its brigettes mom who is ill and not felix's leading to felix being more loved and secluded and brigette missinf mom and distant making her develop seperation anxiety and a fear of lonliness(hence the clinginess)

Personally, I don’t care as much for the PV as I care for the original starting concept of everything, when Marinette was named Marietta, had more of a straight cut to her pigtails, and was known as the Mini Menace Ladybug.

I’m also… not the biggest fan of Felix or Marinette’s personalities in the PV. The darker themes were great, I loved everything from a design point of view, as well as the other characters, Alan, Claude, and Allegra, but I don’t think I would have been able to stand the show with a love square like that. It would have been infuriating. Regardless of the reasonings behind their personalities, Felix and Marinette’s behaviour in the PV really rubbed me wrong.

If I were to personally change the show to fit something more to my liking, using the first concepts and the PV as inspiration, I would have changed a LOT more than simply whose parents were more unfortunate.

Let’s start with Marinette:

Okay, to start off… I LOVE this version of Marinette. I love her hairstyle and ribbons a whole lot more than canon Marinette. I love her civilian clothing, and I love the much more menacing look that she has when she’s Ladybug, using a mask with white covering over her eyes. I also love the fact that’s she’s older.

And I can’t say enough how much I love that her suit’s not just magicked on. (Don’t get me wrong, I love the magic of the whole show, but I also really love when magic doesn’t do everything for you. Yeah, here’s a magical indestructible super suit, but you’re gonna have to put it on and take it off yourself!)

THIS Marinette, who was previously named Marietta, is cunning, daring, stealthy, and efficient. She still has all of my favourite qualities that Current Marinette has, being smart, creative, and strategic. But there’s a lot of differences; Concept Marinette clearly isn’t a goody-two-shoes, for one.

LOOK at this intense look in her eyes. Those are the eyes of someone on a fucking mission. Those are the eyes of someone who isn’t going to let anyone stop her, no matter what. If that means being a wanted criminal and having to avoid the police at every turn, then so be it.

This is a Marinette who’s combined with not only the cute and quirky Marinette we have currently, not only the stern focus we have in Ladybug currently, but ALSO with the TOTAL BADASSERY that was unfortunately cut out altogether in the final production. This Marinette is cute, focused, and sly. And clearly not afraid to hurt anyone, if the state of that officer is anything to go by.

This Marinette never had troubles making friends. She’s ALREADY confident and outgoing. This wasn’t the kind of girl who would sit quietly in class and never make meaningful relationships with her classmates. This is the kind of girl who didn’t NEED magical jewelry to shine. Instead, the magical jewelry found her BECAUSE she shined so brightly.

I mean, seriously, look at this. I don’t know about you, but this isn’t the kind of ballsy attitude you get just because some new kid gave you a pep talk. Clearly she was already born with it, and is assured of her capabilities. This is the confidence of someone who’s BEEN confident for a very long time.

This is the Marinette I’m dying for. This is the kind of main character I would be utterly entranced by. It doesn’t need to sacrifice all the other quirks that we have with Current Marinette, all it does it adds on to her and makes her the type of hero I would have followed to the DEATH as a kid.

This is the Marinette who still designs, who still bakes, who still gardens, who still probably does that adorable butt wiggle thing when she’s excited, who still squeals in delight and still makes handmade gifts for her friends.

And this is ALSO a Marinette who’s broken the law on multiple occasions, will expertly kick your ass in the name of good, super suit or not, is probably BOTH a bad influence and a good influence on the people around her, has powered on and made more connections in the fashion world than other teenagers her age would have had the guts to do, and doesn’t solely use her powers in the face of other magical happenstances. This girl will use her powers on regular old drunkards if the situation calls for it. She has NO mercy, and is perfectly fine on her own.

Of course, she isn’t alone, is she?

The Mini Menace: Ladybug is partnered with another Mini Menace, and his name would be Chat Noir:

Now, don’t get me wrong, as much as I love the Mini Menace concepts of Ladybug and Chat Noir, Beanie Boy here isn’t my favourite concept of catboy.

Believe it or not, my favourite concept art of Chat Noir is the one that’s a good mixture between both Felix and Adrien. A combination of Adrien’s general friendliness, awkwardness, and genuine playfulness, while still having Felix’s emotional distance, willingness to be a little mean-spirited at times, and the capacity to be deceitful.

THIS is my Chat Noir. He’s full of genuine expression that is in no way a façade to win Ladybug over, bright and silly and mischievous. This is a boy who would probably laugh at someone who slipped on a banana peel, but would still get up to help that person back onto their feet, still laughing the entire time. This is also a boy who would make light jokes and tell dramatic stories to make you FEEL as though you’re close friends, even though he hasn’t told you a single thing about himself.

This is a person who knows how to be completely distant while masquerading as an open book.

And I need to add, I LOVE this concept of Adrien, which seems to place somewhere in the beginning when they were transitioning from Felix to Adrien as a character. This Adrien is amicable, smiling in in the company of another friendly face, and has an open expression. This seriously does NOT look like someone who dances around in a skintight leather catsuit at night, breaking the law and provoking policemen. And that’s what makes it brilliant to me.

The ONLY thing that seems similar between Chat Noir and Adrien is that they both manage to stay emotionally distant while putting up the mask of someone who isn’t. The brilliance of this is that they do it in completely different ways.

Current Chat Noir’s openness isn’t a joke, as far as we’re concerned. Current Chat Noir is TRYING to be as open as possible, his attitude is how he really want to be. Concept Chat Noir is different, instead USING that goofy attitude as a shield. He’s still Adrien, but part Felix as well, very attached to their protective bubble and not willing to slip out their cover.

Speaking of Felix, we should dive more into how we connect Felix and Adrien’s vastly different personalities.

To put it simply, Felix is kind of a jerk. And Adrien… isn’t. Felix doesn’t let anybody force him to do anything and will outright tell you to get lost. Adrien’s kind of a doormat and would sooner sacrifice his personal comfort for the sake of other people around him.

Felix is willing to use his bad luck abilities to purposely hurt a girl who has a crush on him simply because she’s walking towards him. Adrien’s the kind of guy who would stand still and let any girl who likes him cling to him like a leech, whether he’s uncomfortable or not. How could you possibly mix those two personalities together?

Well… pretty easily, honestly.

Felix acts out and does pretty mean-spirited things when he’s annoyed or just doesn’t want to deal with things. He’s selfish and cares little for what other people think of him. Adrien does, though. He cares about what other people think, his father especially, and wants people to like him.

This Concept Adrien is still going to be selfish and do mean-spirited things from time to time. He’d probably make use of his misfortune abilities by ruining the days of people who are just plain rude, taking great joy in their misery. That kid from earlier who made some gross comment about girls? Use a little misfortune to tangle his shoelaces together and make him late for class. That teacher who for some reason takes pride in failing his class? Gets his tie stuck in a paper shredder, wonder how that happened. Someone laughs at his use of a cane? I hope you like spraining your ankle and having to use crutches for a little while.

Concept Adrien still really cares about making good impressions to people who deserve it, however, and would refrain from pulling pranks or using his misfortune on those people. Marinette is on that list. She’s probably at the top of the list, honestly. Class president, super popular, probably the most sweetest girl in school, and strong enough to protect all her friends with raw strength alone? Yeah, definitely someone he wants to make a good first impression with.

Concept Adrien is a good person with some gray areas. He might enjoy other peoples’ pain too much, at times, and some of his ‘pranks’ can go a little overboard. His reasoning for helping Ladybug here and there will probably be for personal gain, rather than out of the goodness of his heart, and they won’t be very close to each other. Concept Adrien can be a little manipulative when he wants to be and can trick people into telling him the information he wants to know.

And yet, Concept Adrien is still firmly on the Good Human Being side of the scale. If he hears someone on the city streets in need of true help, he’ll be there. While he remains distant, afraid to tell too much about himself, he still very deeply cares about his friends and will be there for them when he’s needed. And while he has the power of pure destruction and misfortune at his fingertips, he never uses it for anything extreme.

Speaking of powers…

Chat Noir having added powers like this excite me. And I’m really excited by the fact that he’s seemingly capable of calling upon these powers outside of the magic suit— it gives credence to my theory that the original concepts were that Marinette and Adrien are CONSTANTLY infused with magical power. It doesn’t only ever exist when they change into the super suits. All that strength, agility, and their magical powers are well within their capabilities at all times.

I love that Chat Noir’s powers are more diverse. He has more up his sleeve than a simple Cataclysm, like how Ladybug has more than just the Lucky Charm. Ladybug’s also capable of literally restoring any damage caused by another Miraculous.

And, speaking of abilities and Ladybug, let’s dive onto her side now.

This Ladybug doesn’t have new magical powers necessarily like Chat Noir does, but what she DOES have is an entire arsenal of different weapons, all in one yoyo.

This absolutely feels like something more inline with the Ladybug Miraculous, considering it’s literally all about good luck and creation. It makes absolute sense that she should be able to imagine whatever weapon she wants and have it mimicked through her yoyo. Bombs, swords, staffs, and even a shield that’s probably capable of cutting through things like butter. It also falls in line with Concept Marinette’s personality. She’s willing to go to extreme lengths to accomplish her goal, so in comparison to Current Marinette, Concept Marinette would likely think of a whole host of different weapons to help her out.

I mean… remember that scene in Malediktator where Ladybug’s Lucky Charm was a fucking. machine gun. You remember how she just picked the laser pointer off it and threw the gun away? Yeah. Concept Marinette would not have done that.

You guys can probably tell what the common theme of the concept universe at this point is. Darker, more violent, more morally grey, and full of much more weapons, powers, and villains unrelated to magical influence.

There’s SO MUCH more I want to get into, I’m justing dying to delve more into Concept Hawkmoth/Gabriel, the kwamis, Concept Origins, Concept Love Square, Concept Fu, Concept Plot, etc, etc. But at this point the post has run on for much too long. This took me long enough that I had to stop for the night and fall asleep. I’ll expand more if anybody asks, I suppose.

#Maximilian Speaks #answered #anonymous #Original Concepts AU #Miraculous Ladybug #ML #Pre Production Concepts AU #Marinette Dupain-Cheng #Marietta Dupain-Cheng #Marinette Dupain Cheng #Adrien Agreste #Ladybug #Chat Noir #Mini Menace #long post #Love Square

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