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beatriceportinari · 3 months

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Another year, another outfit to die in! Happy birthday again Izuna!!!!!!

Like last year, I played with someone else's lines for these charming patterns, thank you so much Lena @elhnrt ! I had a ton of fun :D

Check the readmore for pattern references and explanations, there are some easter eggs in there :)

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My goal for this piece, in addition to playing with patterns and textures and adding some Naruto references, was to add as many death flags as possible.

The idea of having Izuna in a fireman's coat is obviously not from me. I've always like the idea of Uchihas in fire resistant clothes, and the opportunity for a thick texture alongside a reversible double pattern is very appealing. I used the image of the second reference as a base, with skulls on one side and stylized lightning patterns on the other (visible inside the sleeves and collar). Both were common immagery of firemen coats.

The actual skull pattern is taken from the third reference. I'd seen this one before and before even learning anything abt it it was too beautiful to pass up. Those white and navy gradients are absolutely delightful and I enjoyed using my gel pens for them very much.... This particular type of imagery with skulls and bones in a field is called Nozarashi, inspired by Buddhist representation of death and transience.

The lightning pattern itself is a reference to water and lightning dragons :) Like Tobirama's iconic jutsu, it's one of the hints of what's abt to happen to our little guy. The scabbard is also decorated with dragon motifs for the same reason.

The background pattern is taken from the first reference, another fireman's coat with an illustration of Raijin, the thunder god. He is often representated with drums decorated with tomoes. It works nicely as a standard looking sharingan illustration, with a reference to Tobirama's hiraishingiris with the thunder imagery, like the thunder patterns inside the coat.

If you're interested in this I recommend the book linked in the second reference! It is entirely about skeleton motifs in japanese clothing of the early 20th century.

#mine #mixed #wip #naruto #uchiha izuna #been looking at some many fun patters I really went all in for this one #I love borrowing people's lines bc I do not care much abt anatomy or even drawing clothes tbh but patterns and textures....#it's like I'm dressing up a little doll :)#you can tell I was feeling myself seriousposting bc I capizalized the names...#anyway this was a lot of fun and of course actually quite unserious #for exemple you'll notice all these are either from late 19th/early20th c. despite the warring states era being obviously sengoku coded #later designs were easier for me to find references from and information on since I do not know much abt the subject #I allowed myself these liberties bc the timeline (wether aesthetic or narrative) in naruto is hardly strict #also it's usually the senjus who are associated with Buddhism and the uchiha are more shinto leaning but well.#you can tell yourself this is a sign of early konoha corruption on our guy Izuna #if you have any more questions abt this feel free to ask! this was a surprise again so i haven't posted any wips #but i do have some pictures of the process and I always love to chat

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internal-ethics · 1 month

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no one :

my brain :

the Shinobi WW4 was in year 1989.

konoha was founded in 1921.

tobirama was born in 1892, died in 1939 at 47 in SWW1.

hashirama born 1889, became Hokage in 1922, died as a old man in 1958.

madara born 1890 and Izuna 1896.

hiruzen's gen was born between 1915-1919.

the sannin born 1935

minato's gen born 1948

kakashi was born 1958.

and naruto's gen born 1972, making boruto a 90s kid. chapter 700 takes place in 2005.

#naruto #naruto shippuuden #meta #naruto timeline #sort of #senju hashirama #senju tobirama #uchiha madara #senju tsunade #namikaze minato #sarutobi hiruzen #yeah tobirama died first #i only take questions not criticism

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edai-crplpnk · 11 months

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Temari was pregnant on her wedding day: A Naruto Timeline analysis

[usual disclaimer: I love studying canon timeline but no one's headcanons have to be bound to it just do what you like bye]

Note: for simplicity, I gave years numbers, the Kyuubi attack/Naruto's birth are in 2000 and the other dates are based on that

Fact 1: Gaara is at least 20

In Gaara Hidden, one of the councilmen tells Gaara "You've steadily grown, and reached the age of twenty" and Temari and Shikamaru are in the process of choosing their wedding date in this novel as well, so the Wedding has to happen later than that.

We know from the data book that Gaara is from the same school year as Naruto, and born in January, so he is born in January 2001. (In Japan, the school year is from April to March of the next year and the children in the same class are the ones born during the same school year, not civil year. If you want to know why I say that data books are based on school years, not civil years, flick me a request and I will happily do so! Just not here because it'd be too long.)

We can conclude that the wedding is in February 2021 or later.

Fact 2: Shikadai graduates 15 years after the 4th war

There is no indication that I've found in canon material about when the Boruto events happen, but we can read in this interview that Naruto Gaiden happens 15 years after the last chapter of Naruto. (We will have to assume that "last chapter" here means chapter 699, not 700, or else all the new gen has spent 15 years being teenagers at the academy.) Naruto Gaiden opens with Shino telling the class (Shikadai is there) that the graduation exam will be in a week.

The issue here is that chapter 699 happens in October (Minato says happy birthday to Naruto in chapter 691 the same day, and we know from the data books he was born in October) and the graduation is presumably in March (again, that's one the school year ends, and Itachi is also said to graduate "in the springtime" in Itachi Shinden). So it could mean either 15,5 years later, or 14,5 years later.

The 4th War happens in October 2017 (Naruto turns 17 during it, that's the age the data book gives us).

We can conclude that Shikadai graduates either in March 2032 or 2033.

Fact 3: Shikadai graduates at 11

It is the minimum age as per the law (it is said in Itachi Shinden, this law is made shortly before the Rookie 9 graduate: “now that it was a time of peace [...] it was no longer possible to graduate in a short time [...] no matter how talented Sasuke was, he couldn't become a ninja until he was eleven years old”).

It is the age at which all the Rookie 9 graduate (they are said to turn 12 during the first year of naruto and 13 during the second, again, I can give more details about data book ages in another post if needed).

The naruto wiki tells me that the Naruto data book says he is 12 for the Chuunin Exam, but the scan I have of the data book do not seem to indicate any age that I can find?

So this is not 100% a fact that I have found a canon material number about, but it's the most logical possibility (he's not allowed to graduate younger, there's no reason he would graduate older, this is what happened to the previous gen, and this is what the whole fandom seems to believe, so, yeah).

Similarly, everyone seems to agree that his birthday is September 23, I have not found where that comes from yet, but I have to assume it does come from somewhere. If you know please tell me!

[Edit: apparently it comes from a bonus calendar in the Shounen Jump issue 6-7 of 2019 but I haven't found a scan yet.]

We can conclude that Shikadai was born in either September 2020 or 2021, depending on the graduation date.

Conclusion

If Gaara Hiden and the wedding were in 2021, Shikadai cannot have been born in 2020, so he has to be born in September 2021. If we imagine that Gaara Hiden takes place right after Gaara's birthday (the earliest date) and then Temari and Shikamaru got married on the month that followed, Temari would have been 2 months pregnant, and this is the minimum she could have been.

Your honour, they have sinned.

#shikatema #shikamaru nara #temari #shikadai nara #naruto timeline #naruto worldbuilding

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narudoodles · 2 years

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Please, let him be happy.

#naruto #sasuke #artists on tumblr #fanart #naruto uzumaki #sasuke uchiha #sasunaru #narusasu #my art #guys....I'm...SO SORRY PLEASE FORGIVE ME #I just had to get this out of my system 😭😭😭#this is set sometime in the boruto timeline #naruto probably dies? probably lives? either way I'm betting sasuke will bring him back from hell if t push comes to shove lol #but...the angst was just...too tempting 😭#mine

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yaoiconnoisseur · 7 days

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I don't really have a consistent style, but it was fun to join the trend anyway :3

#art style timeline #twitter art trend #twitter art challenge #my art #bg3 #overwatch #dva overwatch #astarion bg3 #bg3 astarion #kakairu #kkir #naruto

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equill · 6 months

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Different choices.

The ending is still an calamity.

They would fight over different ideals (I love making utter nonsense)

I also survive off videos clips of boruto. I have no clue what’s going on but mitsuki is trying his best

An Uchiha’s Love & Grief

(they wouldn’t get along either)

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opens-up-4-nobody · 1 year

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:-P

#watching boruto makes me want to draw bby naruto bc old naruto is cursed and tired 😫#5 episodes in and i dont hate it tho. like its a cursed timeline but idk lets see where it takes us #Naruto #uzumaki naruto #hatake kakashi

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obsidianstrawberrymilk · 2 years

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I never see ‘Sakura as Orochimaru’s apprentice’ in the way I think would be scariest yk. Not in the ‘Sakura is just Sasuke with pink hair now’ or ‘Sakura hates everyone and everyone hated her secretly so she’s taking revenge’ or whatever, but like... canon Sakura. Do you understand how terrifying that would be?

Sakura has been stated within canon to be more observant than Sasuke who has a Sharingan - by Sasuke. She, a civilian without any clan training, has near perfect chakra control. She’s noted to have scores at the top of her class academically, she drugs her own team and friends in order to make sure they don’t get in the may of her mission (to kill Sasuke; yes she doesn’t, but that’s because Kishimoto is too scared to have those two actually fight each other), and is perfectly willing to emotionally manipulate Naruto if she thinks its for his own good (yes, Sai was a dick for blaming Naruto’s pursuit of Sasuke on her and making her feel bad about it, but she was still willing to manipulate a guy who she knows has liked her for years if she thinks he’ll be safer for it. Good intentions, still gaslighting). She’s ruthless, intelligent, and academic. She’s also a canon genius (4-5 in intelligence, matched only by Shikamaru who’s outright stated to be a genius), and notably isolated from her peers both as children (bulled as a kid) and even after (she doesn't seem to have any friends in part 1 other than Ino). Given her parents don’t seem to show up even when she’s literally close to dying in war, they seem either neglectful or that she has a bad enough relationship with them she doesn’t keep in contact with them frequenty.

You literally don’t have to change anything about her. She’s got a perfect personality and social circle (aka none) so that Part 1 Sakura would not only go with Orochimaru, but would probably thrive. Like, Sasuke was with him for a reason, and he got the aesthetic, with the snake summons and all that. But he’s not a scientist, he didn’t get what truly makes Orochimaru terrifying. He got edgier and more depressed. You know who would become utterly terrifying under Orochimaru? Who seems to have that academic curiosity and the ruthlessness that could be nurtured into something much darker if she was caught as an impressionable twelve year old? Who has quite a bit of ability given how, unlike everyone else in this show sans Tenten and Lee, she has no natural power ups at all? Who has an utter lack of guidance given her parents don’t seem too close to her, Tsunade isn’t her mentor till end of Part 1, and Kakashi never bothers actually giving a shit about her? You know who’s been shown to have talent with poisons, who’s made her own jutsu in canon, who could probably still have some of those same skills with the human body, with poisons, only under a teacher who was more focused on the mind, which probably would have suited her part 1 abilities even better than Tsunade?

Sakura Fucking Haruno. And you wouldn’t even have to change much to do it.

And unlike Sasuke, who just became edgier and more murder-y, Sakura would go from a cheerful and preppy twelve year old girl to something much darker. And I for one would be very interested to see how it would have played out.

#naruto #naruto meta #alternate timelines #i guess #orochimaru #sakura haruno #tsunade #tsunade senju #sasuke uchiha #the three sanin parallel even works better in canon when you know sasuke is tsunade #and orochimaru is sakura

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generouskittensong · 4 months

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Team 7 spend barley 4 months together

Found it on reddit and yes!!

"Naruto was 12 when Team 7 was formed. All of Part 1 takes place over a few months.

He is 15 when he returns. He’s been gone for 2.5 years. The series ends on his 17th birthday.

He "falls" in love with Hinata when he is 19. No more than 20.

He becomes hokage at 31-32. We know because he became hokage shortly before Boruto graduated from the academy at age 12.

Mind you, Sauske and Naruto never got along. So they spend a few months together as a team and Naruto dedicates the next 5 years trying to get him back.

Another interesting note is that the academy changed by Boruto’s era. Before, you enter at the age 5 and stated until you reached age 12. In Boruto, you only study at the academy for a few months"

"That means that Naruto went through his entire journey of saving his brother figure all because he knew a guy for a few months. Really undermines the rest of the series when you look at the timeline lmao"

"If we assume that the Konoha Academy system is like the Japanese system, the kids graduated in late-March. From there, we can gleam certain details from the story.

The Chunin Exams is stated to explicitly begin on the first of the seventh month (July). The finals and Orochimaru's invasion take place in August. In September, Tsunade becomes Hokage and Sasuke deserts the vilage.

This gives us about 6 months of time with him on the team."

And then minus 1 month because of the preparation of the chuunin exam, minus 1 month because sasuke was in hospital. That makes it for Team 7 only 4 months and from that 4 months they didn't had every day a mission.

Also after the Chuunin exam they didn't spend time together or had any missions

So what the fck???

#naruto time #naruto timeline #makes no sense #what a bullshit #anti naruto #anti team #anti team 7

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woodblxssomcrowned · 3 months

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Hear me out as I ramble. Please leave room for a year or two off here and there. Numbers hard and I'm working with what i got.

Like I know people frequently point to Hashirama's godly genes and regenerative abilities to justify him being older but still looking you but like...we did see him as a kid? With Madara, who didn't look much older or younger than him. And he had brothers who did not look more than a handful of years younger than him either.

Considering that the life expectancy was around 30 during the WS era, to me it doesn't seem outlandish at all that he could have married and become a father when he was still in his late teens, like 18 or 19, years before the founding of the village. Uchiha Kagami. According to the databooks he was 25 at the time of his death. If we assume he was the same age as Danzou, this would mean he's 18 years older than Tsunade. It would also mean he died seven years after Tsunade's birth.

In that time he would have had at least one kid (future parent of Shisui), Hashirama would have died, the 1st SWW would start and Tobirama would die along with some other shit.

With this in mind, I can only assume assume the parent of Tsunade, we'll call them Child A (on this blog that child is Danma), was at least 18 when she was born, making them likely the same age or older than Hiruzen and his crew.

Now we can go back further!

To Uchiha Izuna!

He died at the age of 25 too. Now, we don't know how much older than Izuna Madara is but I personally pin both Izuna and Tobirama as being no more than two or three years younger than Madara and Hashirama.

For this rant we'll say that they are two years younger, and all four of them are parallels i.e. Madara and Hashirama are the same age, and Izuna and Tobirama is the same age.

This would make Hashirama and Madara 27 when Izuna died.

So if Hashirama had Child A when he was 19, said child would be 8 years old when Izuna died. And ten years later Tsunade would be born, and Hashirama would have been 37 at the time.

We also know that he did live to interact and leave memories and impressios on Tsunade, and in his memory of her she looks maybe 4 or 5 at most.

Let's say he dies when Tsunade is 5. Meaning he was 42 when he died.

Now, remember Kagami?

He was most likely 18 years older than Tsunade, and died at 25. If Hashirama died when Tsunade was five, Kagami would have been 23. We also know that Kagami died after Tobirama.

So in the two years between Kagami being 23 and 25, so much shit would have gone down. It would also mean he probably died not very long after Tobirama.

Speaking of Tobirama. He was two years younger than Hashirama, so was 40 when his older brother died at 42.

Since he died before Kagami, he would have died at about the age of 42 as well.

Another mention!

We don't know how long the period of time is between Izuna's death and Madara's 'death' and the creation of TVATE.

But concidering the time for the village to be established, Madara falling out of favor with his clan, his interactions with young Ounoki, a few years is at least safe to assume.

However.

Although this only applies to the anime, if we look at SP reference sheets that features the young Hiruzen crew, their heights would suggest they are somewhere around 11 years old around the time of Madara deflecting. It does fit fine. If they were about 8 when the village was founded, and the TVATE battle happened when they were 11, that would leave 3 years.

It's not ot much, if you consider how rome wasn't built in a day (I overall like to think it was at least five years, if not more. Like, come on.), but its something, and for the sake of this post we'll say it was three.

We can also make note that Kakuzu died at 91 in the earlier half of shippuden, making him 19 years older than Hiruzen and his crew.

So he was most likely just about the same age as Hashirama and Madara.

Thanks to these numbers we can try to decipher how long Madara sat in his cave!

If Madara was the same age as Hashirama and Kakuzu, and we guesstemate that he spent three years in the village before battling and being 'killed' by Hashirama, he would have been 30 at the time of his 'death'.

That gives us roughly 61 years between the TVATE battle and Kakuzu's death. (which also solidifies Hiruzen and Co being about 11 at the time as Danzou, Homura and Utatane are 72-73 years old in Shippuden)

We also know that Obito was 31 at the time of his death by the end of shippuden, so was likely about 29-30 by the beginning.

I am not entirely sure how much time spent between the boulder incident and Madara pulling the plug on himself.

However.

Kakashi was 29 at the beginning of shippuden, 62 years younger than Kakuzu.

Kakashi is 13 years older than Naruto, meaning he was 13 when Obito released the Kyubi and Kushina and Minato died at the day of Naruto's birth.

According to the databooks, Obito became chunin at 11 years old.

So likely somewhere between 12 and 13 everything from boulder to Madara's death would have happened.

Let's say Obito was 13 when Madara died.

That makes Madara 75 years old at the time of his death if we still assume he was just about the same age as Kakuzu, after having spent 45 years in his cave.

There's an infuriating detail tho. And his name is Ounoki, the third tsuchikage.

He was 79 when he appeared in shippuden making him about 13 years younger than Madara.

This would mean that when the WS era ended following Izuna's death, Ounoki would have been 14 years old, and 17 years old when TVATE battle happened.

Onoki offers us two flashbacks of his younger years:

- Him looking after an artefact, and having a philosophical conversation with his grandfather Ishikawa about the strength of will within the shinobi of Iwagakure. Ishikawa is very clearly Tsuchikage at this time as he is wearing the iconic kage getup. Ounoki looks roughly 12 or so years old.

The first tuchikage also looks older here than he does when he appears in the 1st kage summit..

- Him with Mu, the future second Tsuchikage, facing Madara. They wear their respective village's headbands, and Madara speaks in a way that heavily implies he's still working in favor of Konoha, even if it seems his relationship with Hashirama is turning quite sour at that time.

Ounoki looks young, but I would not say younger than 17 or 18.

This would mean this occured before Hashirama became hokage and possibly even before the kage system was created alltogether?

The 1st kage summit isn't implied to have taken place until after Madara leaving.

These events does not match up at all.

I think the event with Madara fits best into the most plausible timeline, but barely. The first I can't find any plausible way to fit. I can only assume that his old-man brain isn't what it used to be and he's remembering things weirdly. It's the only explanation.

Other notes:

Ginkaku and Kinkaku attempted to capture Kurama after Kumogakure was founded, but before Madara set it lose on Konoha and Mito ended up sealing it away. They do look like adults in that flashback, and we know they died at the age of 44. With that info I'd guess they may also have also been roughly the same age as Hashirama and Madara. This would mean they'd be near 30 when they became psuedo-jinchurki by munching Kurama-guts for two weeks, and would have died around the same time as Tobirama, meaning sometime shortly before, during or after the 1st SWW. Prior to the 1st SWW they would have also attempted a coup and very nearly killed both the Nidaime Raikage and Nidaime Hokage.

There's no clues as to how old Mito was when she died, but even though Kishimoto probably wants us to admire her for living so hecken long and for it to be a testament to the Uzumaki longevity, I really don't think she was that old when she died. Kushina died at the age of 24, and judging by her appearance I'd guss she was about 12 or so when she took over as jinchuriki. Kakashi and Obito would have been 1 year olds at this time. Remember earlier when we mentioned how Obito was 13 when Kushina and Minato died, and Madara had likely kicked it some time within the earlier year, at the age of 75. So, if we assume Mito was roughly the same age as Hashirama, then she would have been 63 years old when she died. Sure, for someone born in the WS era it's thirty years beyond the general life-expectancy, but overall it's not very impressive considering that Ounoki, Hiruzuen and his crew lived to their 70's and beyond and remained very capable shinobi (Kakuzu doesn't count because without his kinjutsu he'd probably be long since dead, even Madara only made it so long thanks to his Hashirama-life support). I am going to HC that maybe being jinchuriki took its toll on her, making age catch up to her faster than one would have expected. Either that she was notably older than Hashirama.

We don't know that Hikaku died at the age of 25, although that is the only age we have to associate to him, but hell, we don't even know if he did live during the founders era. We only know for sure that he did live during the warring states era, even if the fandom (me included) generally put him in with the other founders. His databook entry says: "M 25 An Uchiha clan shinobi. Despite his youth he is the most talented in his clan and is very adept at being a leader. " And he's never presented in any proximity to any known founders characters , so it's never really mentioned in any sure capacity that he did live during the founders era, so finding a place for him in the timeline is hard.

Touka we don't know if she died at the age of 27, or if she was just 27 when she's very briefly shown. But she is shown looking fairly young next to Hashirama, and even her databook entry states that she did work closely with and was trusted by Hashirama, so she without a doubt did live at least during the end of the WS era, and though we only have a figure that appears to be her from behind to go off, she likely did live to see the end of it.

#;;ooc #;;inspiration #;;reference #;;Senju #senju clan #naruto meta #senju hashirama #mito uzumaki #madara uchiha #uchiha clan #naruto timeline #founders era #naruto founders era #naruto warring states

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