#odalia mentioned

[yardsards]

if i could change one thing about the owl house, i'd change the main point of conflict in clouds on the horizon from "odalia's okay with genocide, alador isn't" to "alador is willing to listen to his children, odalia isn't"

first off, i'd make it so that odalia *didn't* know what the draining spell actually did. her knowingly participating in genocide just serves to overshadow her pre-established abusiveness, and feels like the writers didn't trust the audience to understand that she was Bad and deserved to be cut out of her family's lives on the basis of abuse alone.

(also it. kinda doesn't make sense why she'd be okay with it? like she is greedy and short-sighted. but the draining spell would negatively impact her personally, and while the idea of her being so distracted by greed that she acts against her own interests is extremely neat and an apt commentary on real billionaires, it's just,,, a big stretch.)

instead, i'd have her dismiss the truth with "i'm not going to put such a good business deal in jeopardy because of some unfounded suspicions" and "i trust the emperor far more than i trust a bunch of children"

next, i'd replace the scene where king talks to alador. while it was a really nice scene that revealed more about alador's situation and kinda laid the groundwork for king being helpful in the next episode, it's not the best way for alador to learn about the draining spell in my version of the episode. because in that scene, alador believes king is a coven scout -an authority figure- so trusting what he says about the day of unity is not any kind of challenge for alador.

instead, i'd make it so that *emira and edric* are the ones who tell him about the draining spell (maybe king helped the twins escape? that gives him a purpose within the episode and there's a fun parallel with him freeing the collector later).

i don't think the twins were deliberately looking for alador, but they saw him sitting out there as they broke out and they had two choices: sneak past him and continue trying to stop things themselves, or talk to him. and they don't quite trust alador to listen and do the right thing, but amity seemed so convinced when she told them he'd listen, and they trust *her*, so they decide to talk to him.

and he listens and promises to put a stop to it. and he tells them to go find safety, and emira is like "but shouldn't we stay and help/make sure amity is safe" and alador tells her that it should have never been her responsibility to handle everything (i am starving for her whole parentified older sister thing to get addressed can you tell) and promises that he's going to do better for all of them, and apologizes for being so negligent -and Maybe explains a bit of why he was like that and what odalia did to him (if i could fit it in without it being clunky and keeping it clear that it's an explanation not a full excuse)

so the twins go to take shelter at hexside (no more "wtf did he just leave them in gay baby jail???" that we had in canon) and alador and king go confront odalia/save amity like in canon

and then in that confrontation, perhaps alador brings up the abuse and overwork (since it maybe wouldn't come up in my rewritten scene w him and the twins like it did in canon's scene w him and king). and the general vibe w him confronting her is less "this is the final straw" and more "i should have done this years ago"

and overall i'd want the episode to keep the "he is also a domestic abuse victim and, at times, messed up because he was acting out of fear and trying to protect them" that it introduced in the canon version of the episode (i know some people have criticized the show's choice to make him a victim too and while i can understand some of their reasons i overall liked the concept so it stays) while keeping in mind the "sometimes he messed up because he was trying to do what was 'best' for his kids whilst ignoring what the kids actually wanted/needed" that they established in reaching out

#eliot posts #toh #the owl house #alador blight #odalia blight #emira blight #don't get me wrong i did overall love clouds on the horizon #but at the same time... i could Fix It #long post #abuse mention #genocide mention #i talked about this possible alternate episode with @pandoratheprocrastinator #tho they're also doing their own episode rewrite ideas which are for more extensive than mine lol

[the-owl-house-takes]

Hi, I'm the anon who sent that take a few weeks or a month back about Odalia isn't the greatest depiction of abuse. About how Odalia was abusive no doubt but unfortunately real life abusive parents sprinkle in enough love to make the child still care about them, while Odalia is just comically evil.

I'm here again to second the many anons who have spoken up about how Alador is forgiven too easily. He's actually a great portrayal of abuse cause he's subtle with it and that's why it's not obvious on first glance. But he seems to have been so subtle with it that the show forgot he is still a part of the abuse.

Anyways. Justice for the Blight kids. Especially the twins.

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#the owl house #toh #odalia blight #tw abuse mention #toh critical

[awakefor48hours]

The first on screen death will be Camila strangling Odalia with her bare hands

#toh #the owl house #odalia blight #camila noceda #death mention #the not spoiler house

[dazeddoodles]

I was thinking more about the Barbies thing (or "Scarbies" as I think they'd be called in the Boiling Isles). Darius and Raine definitely had dolls as kids and took good care of them. ESPECIALLY Darius.

As a kid Odalia was always secretly jealous of Darius's Barbie collection. She also collected dolls but wouldn't let anyone play with or hold them. If she let's you play with her you have to bring your own dolls, which Darius always does.

Darius WOULD let other kids hold his dolls, BUT they'd have to wash their hands first. And he'd probably not let Alador hold them at all (dirty).

Alador never collected dolls but he's the only person that Odalia would let hold hers because she would force him to play the boyfriend roles.

Eda and Lilith's parents would always make sure to get them matching dolls so there wouldn't be any arguments. But as a kid Eda would DEFINITELY be like that brother that ends up destroying his sister's Barbies. Eda never wants to play a "normal" scenario, she would always come up with some crazy story that involves getting both Lilith and her own dolls absolutely trashed, disfigured, burned, or all of the above.

In a hypothetical Au where Eda and Raine knew each other as young children, Eda would be gentle when it comes to RAINE’S dolls. While Raine would actually think the scenarios Eda comes up with to play sounds fun.

Eda would NEVER want to play romance scenarios (though Lilith was fine with that) unless it was with Raine. I imagine that one day Raine would make their doll kiss Eda's, and baby Eda gets so flustered she runs away.

Just straight up throws the doll and goes to hide in the closet (both metaphorically and physically in this case) leaving baby Raine to wonder what they did wrong.

Perry played with Legos.

#the owl house #toh #raeda #eda clawthorne #raine whispers #lilith clawthorne #darius deamonne #alador blight #odalia blight #i could make a chart about this like i did with the smells #i just don't know what pictures to put on it #what dolls would each of them play with? #i only mentioned Barbies but what else?

[toastling]

Wait

Does the Boiling Isles even have marriage?

#Did Belos import/impose it? #Did the Isles develop it independently? #Are any of the adult couples ever explicitly stated to be married? #Odalia and Alador were the closest when Odalia mentioned his 'severance package' but that's business talk and he was her business partner #Do they have weddings? #Do couples just exchange jewelry and move in together??? #I don't think this was ever addressed... hmm... #TOH #The Owl House #Raeda #Lumity

[emeraldart]

Fanfic of Odalia finding out Willow was technically recruited to the EC (about 1k words, takes place after Any Sport in a Storm but before Hollow Mind)

Having Willow Park over in the Blight household was always a risky decision. Fortunately, Odalia Blight won’t be home for a little while longer. Amity Blight savors the final bit of time she gets with her friend before she’ll have to shoo her home and pretend it all never happened. The two paint each others’ nails. Willow decorates Amity’s with a bright pink, a pleasant change from her usual black polish. Willow insists on choosing a soft red. Interesting, Amity notes, I didn’t know she liked red. It was really no surprise that the plant witch would gravitate toward the color green. The green continue their peaceful moment when there was a knock on the door.

Amity opens the door to find an intricate uniform and golden mask. Willow, standing behind her, runs and tackles Hunter in a hug. He removes the mask while Amity smirks, happy that her friend is finally branching out. 

“Hunter!” Willow cries, happily.

“Oh, hi, Willow. I wasn’t aware you’d be here,” he replies. Amity coughs. “Right. Hi, Amity.”

“Hi. How’re you doing?” Amity asks, genuinely curious. 

“Me? Fine,” he seems surprised she asked. “I kinda expected you to be more, uh, mad. At me.” Willow winces. 

“I was never mad at you,” Amity says, flatly. “I was-” She trails off. I was worried about you. 

“Oh, um, thanks good, I guess.”

“So,” Amity inquires, “what are you doing here, then?”

“The abomatons,” Hunter explains, “I’m supposed to check with your parents on the progress.”

“They’re not here right now,” Amity says.

“And thank Titan for that,” Willow scoffs, causing Hunter to tilt his head in confusion.

“Why’s that?” he asks.

“They don’t really like Willow,” Amity frowns, “They think she’s too weak to be my friend. A bad influence or whatever.”

“Willow?” Hunter looks confused. “As in, Willow Park. The strongest plant witch I’ve ever seen?” 

Amity laughs, noticing the small flowers sprouting in Willow’s hair. She hadn’t seen that happen since they were kids. She fiddles with her scroll, wanting to take a picture of their faces for Luz, when she notices the flyer derby photos Willow had sent her. She smirks. Amity may have an opportunity here. She starts planning her idea, while still spanning a photo of her flustered friends to show her awesome girlfriend. 

“Mom’s always saying that I only should associate with ‘witches of higher status,’” Willow and Hunter turn to look at her. “That people of ‘lower class’ would never get opportunities in the Emperor’s Coven. What if we showed her how wrong she was?”

Both her friends grin. She leans in to tell them the plan, laughing at their silly additions. Titan, she missed this. Being a silly, weird kid. Amity texts Luz to let her know what they’re doing, promising to send her a picture of Odalia’s reaction. What are girlfriends for if not to show each other your pranks, right? After today, she’s positive Willow can agree. 

Before they know it Odalia is on her way home. The girls sneak Hunter around to the corner until his cue. Amity and Willow resume chatting, laughing about when Boscha humiliated herself at school the previous day or that silly game Luz taught them a few weeks ago. The door creaks open. Odalia Blight, stern, uptight, rude, and downright awful, storms in. She looks exhausted, probably from watching Alador do all the work while she just stands there. Amity scoffs. 

“Amity Blight!” she cries, making Amity look up so fast she fears she hurt her neck. “What is the Park girl doing here?” She says it with so much disgust Willow looks equal parts angry and ashamed. Amity holds back the urge to apologize. She’s done nothing wrong. 

“We’re friends, Mom,” she says bluntly, “We’re hanging out.”

“Nonsense, Mittens,” Odalia responds, “Blights only associate with a select few. Half witches are not in that group.”

Amity sees red. “She is not half a witch! She’s my friend and you will respect her!” Amity shouts. 

“Oh, please, Mittens, this rebellious streak of yours has gotten out of hand,” Odalia says.

“Rebellious?” Willow challenges. “What’s rebellious about hanging out with a friend?”

Odalia is about to retort, stooping so low as to argue with a couple of children when there’s a pounding on the door. Odalia rolls her eyes at the girls and opens the door, completely missing their twin smirks behind her. Amity watches as she immediately drops to a knee at the sight of the Golden Guard. Seeing her mother grovel was surprisingly satisfying.

“Sir!” Odalia exclaims. Willow holds back a giggle. “To what do I owe this pleasure?”

“Mrs. Blight,” the Guard addresses her. That’s all Amity can call him because that

doesn’t feel like her friend. He sounds like the boy she’s mad at, not the one she’s worried about. “I’m here looking for Ms. Willow Park.”

“What, to arrest her? I always knew that one was trouble,” Odalia grumbles, “Please, take her away. And don’t blame my family for any of her transgressions. My daughter was merely-”

The Guard cuts her off. “I’m not here to arrest her. I was going to see if I could get her to rethink my proposal.”

“Proposal?” Odalia inquires. Willow blushes.

“I had invited her to join the coven personally, but she declined. Even if I can’t get her to join I’m trying to get Ms. Park to show the coven her remarkable powers.”

“B-but…” Odalia stutters. “She’s simply half a witch! She can hardly do magic at all!”

“Nonsense. Ms. Park’s magic took some time to appear, but it’s amazing, it’s beautiful, it’s-” he coughs. “Anyway, just call her over and I’ll be on my way.” Amity doesn’t miss how red Willow was getting.

Willow strolls up to the door. “Hello, sir,” she says with a little curtsy.

He bows to her, making stifling laughter at Odalia’s shock. “Ms. Park! Have you considered my offer?”

“I have,” Willow says, struggling not to giggle, “And I’d love to accompany you to learn more about the coven. If the Golden Guard, himself, wants to personally invite me to the castle to convince me to join the prestigious Emperor’s Coven, who am I to refuse?” Willow sighs dramatically. 

Amity winks at them as Odalia turns to face her, mouth wide open. “Have fun!” 

Amity doesn’t miss the way their hands join as the door closes. Odalia looks pale, her already light skin gone paper white. She shakes, muttering nonsensical phrases.

“But, I, she, I, what-?” Odalia gasps before passing out in shock. 

Amity finally lets herself laugh, wild and reckless and childish and stupid. She feels better than she has in a long time. She takes a picture of Odalia, sends it to Luz, and smiles, walking back up to her room. 

#the owl house #toh #toh fanfic #amity blight #willow park #hunter noceda #odalia blight #huntlow #lumity is mentioned a couple times #this is just me studying amity under a microscope

[pandoratheprocrasticreator]

I think we should disembowel the mouse and leave its remains for seagulls to peck at but even though we can blame disney for most of the major plot points that end up unresolved/resolved badly by the end of the owl house i dont want fans to view the show as. Immune to genuine good faith criticism? Like the show has an amazing story and characters and it made great strides in representation. But its not a perfect show and has had problems in all three aspects even before it got canceled.

Idk if they would have fixed some of the problems had they had a full season 3 but despite speculation on what could have been the shortened season 3 is what we got. So i think while people should give the show and creators more leeway that doesnt make the final product immune to genuine problems that detract from the story. And i hope people can focus on actual critiques without being swarmed by 800 others solely blaming it on the shortening. Someone telling me about a hypothetical full season 3 where the part i was complaining about was Good, Actually, doesnt mean the part i was complaining about stops being bad. And it certainly doesnt mean im not allowed to critique it in good faith

#shut up pandora #the owl house #toh #fuck disney #what im saying is #theres a difference between blaming the writers for not following up on the bat queen #and blaming the writers for not building up the blight divorce and having them divorce anyway after painting odalia as an evil caricature #not to mention the problems in s1 and s2a #like liliths relationship with amity and hunter that they never brought up again #especially with amity like she was her mentor! #also introducing a villain as intimidating and immediately making them pathetic as hell the next episode theyre in #theres no tension in the conflict that way #and are they sure they couldnt have found ANY painful narrative parallels between luz and willow and gus? #those two needed more screentime and if they took out the bodyswap episode they could have done it #may elaborate later

[psychopyro813]

Do you ever think about the Blight Twins' initial focus being Illusions, and Odalia's emphasis on upholding the image of a perfect family?

Do you ever think about how underneath their cloaking stones, Edric and Emira are just normal teenagers with normal teenage flaws?

Do you ever think about the ugly truth of how broken the Blight home is underneath the facade, all thanks to Odalia's abuse?

Did you also make the connection that the Twins' arc reflects the Blight family on the whole?

#bridie bluhs #the owl house #blight twins #edric blight #emira blight #odalia blight #the owl house spoilers #toh spoilers #toh speculation #meta #toh analysis #fandom #cw abuse mention #toh #blight family

[huesofvioletandpurple]

edit jan 2023 (oh god it’s 2023) I’m dropping this small theory now that teaser footage from the second s3 episode is coming out ^^ I was thinking more in like, say, labyrinths from pmmm but tbh I don’t think it’s gonna happen like I imagined. you can still read it below if ur curious tho !

Odalia mainly specialising in Oracle magic is most definitely why she knows about the Draining spell; like, maybe she had a vision one day of all the witches in the Boiling Isles having their magic painfully taken away from them, saw a solar eclipse in the background, then found out that the Day Of Unity also takes place on a solar eclipse and put two-and-two together. but that's not the most interesting part to me. what I’m thinking about the most is how despite (most likely) seeing first hand how Belos lied to everyone, she still supports and works for him.

You could argue that she saw everyone survive the draining spell and decided to not look further, but that doesn’t make sense to me ? I feel like if she saw blatant proof that Belos wanted to kill everyone, she’d either come to the conclusion that he ALSO lied about the paradise free of wild magic and refuse to work for him, OR look further into the future just to double check that he wasn’t lying about rewarding witches with sigils. considering that in canon she’s still a piece of shit and purposefully didn’t tell her family about the draining spell just so they’d remain in Belos’ good graces, she most likely went for the latter option.

Here's the thing: Odalia, despite having proof that Belos lied, still believes in his promise about the post-unity Utopia. she taunts Amity after she’s been exposed for hiding the truth that she’ll “thank her when she’s an actual princess” and I don’t see her lying about that at that point ? Maybe she thought that if she sucked up to Belos she and her family would survive the Day of Unity—but then again, she has Oracle magic. she could just look into the future to make sure he fulfilled his end of the deal.

This is more than just Odalia: there's an entire coven of Oracle witches; possibly hundreds have come to the same conclusion. why hasn’t the Coven-head lost all trust in Belos ? why isn't an Oracle witch part of the the C.A.Ts ? why are there even Oracle witches who want to be on Belos' side at all ?

Here's my theory: they did see a form of paradise. They saw an after to the Day of Unity: possibly a utopia where they could thrive.

They just deeply, deeply misunderstood how it came to be, and why it is that way.

At the end of season 2, the Collector remade the Boiling Isles: the last thing we see before the portal closes is of the terrain being torn apart to create the setting for the "Owl House" game. In order to play "The Owl House", one of the rules may be that the "House" needs to be an idyllic place to live in. Maybe this is the Collector's interpretation of the game, or they're just building what King has described to be the setting of "The Owl House".

I think we have a pretty good idea on the world Luz and co are gonna see in episode 2.

#toh #the owl house #the owl house spoilers #toh spoilers #the collector #odalia blight #because I. mention her a whole lot #meta #god its been a while since I've made an analytical post longer than a paragraph #anyways. I don't see much speculation on what the new Boiling Isles looks like #which is understandable #but two days ago I came to this realisation and went Holy Shit #I'll just have to wait until (checks notes) 2023 to see if I was on track with. any of this #if someone else has made a similar post to this please let me know DKFJDHGDK

[trevorendeavors]

Amity's lids folded together in a slow blink, remaining closed for a second before peeling back to once again reveal that gorgeous gaze.

Luz returned the gesture, slow blinking as she stroked her girlfriend's hand with her thumb.

It was then Luz recalled something else her mom had taught her: slow blinking was how cats said hello. It signaled trust and friendliness.

Warm and fuzzies overtook Luz. Oh my god, she's literally a cat GF!

Amity's blink was quicker this time, her brows dented in confusion. "A what?"

Fuzzies replaced by embarrassment, Luz groaned, "I said that out loud, didn't I?"

OR

My very self-indulgent nightmare hurt/comfort from Discord.

#trevorendeavorswriting #Lumity #lumity fanfiction #the owl house fanfic #luz noceda #amity blight #odalia blight #(the other blights are mentioned too) #camila noceda #FLUFF FLUFF FLUFF

[yardsards]

listen. the thing most people tend to forget/ignore about alador blight is. not all of his actions/mistakes are due to being afraid of his wife.

in some cases, he seemed to actually *agree* with her.

like, at the beginning of reaching out when he ignores the fact that amity doesn't want to go to coven tryouts. his explanation is not "your mother will be upset with us both"; it's "this is good for your future".

now, you could maybe argue that his agreeing with/trusting odalia is due, at least in part, to manipulation or even gaslighting on her part. there are things you could read as hints that he doesn't trust his own judgement. (though i personally wouldn't say it's ALL because of her; a grown adult -yes, even a victim- can very well have bad opinions of his own accord)

but. either way. he's more complex than just "poor scared sad man with absolutely no autonomy or thoughts of his own, doing literally everything just because he's afraid his wife will hurt him or his children".

and his character really ties into the show as a whole and its themes about the harms of blind obedience.

one of the biggest common threads in this show involves people doing harm by following other people's influence. sometimes it's due to fear from (real or empty) threats against them or to their loved ones. sometimes it's due to (either real or falsely promised) rewards being offered. oftentimes it's due to lies and manipulation convincing them that what they're doing is actually good and right.

and i've been wanting to write a big meta post about that for a while bc it's so complex and there are so many examples and so many questions (especially about morality) explored in relation to that theme. but that's for another day

#eliot posts #toh #the owl house #toh meta #odalia blight #amity blight #alador blight #abuse mention

[the-owl-house-takes]

I hate Odalia - we all do. But I hate it even more when people treat her like she was always evil and Alador never actually loved her. It takes away from the weight of their abusive marriage imo. Alador loved Odalia, he really did and Odalia also loved Alador. It was a toxic, toxic love and Odalia began abusing him, yet Alador was so blinded by his love that he let that abuse slide for not only himself - but his kids as well. I'd love to see something like that in depth instead of just "odalia's a bitch" OBVIOUSLY she is a bitch - but give her depth in the bitchery so we can feel just how impactful she was on her husband and children! One of the most disturbing things about Odalia's abuse in particular is that it comes from love. That's the most disturbing thing about most cases of child abuse or abuse in marriage - the abusers despite how horrible they are, still love their victims. (especially in child abuse). Which is terrifying. That's not an excuse or a justification of Odalia's abuse btw she's still shit - but it makes everything more impactful for Alador + his kids when we take that into account. At some point in Alador's life his relationship with Odalia was a good one that turned abusive by Odalia. For their kids all they knew was an abusive mother when they were too young to even realize. While Odalia isn't as fleshed out as Belos is when it comes to abuse & character, I love to add this kind of depth to her. I cannot stress enough if y'all truly put the time in to truly show off the horror of Odalia Blight - you won't regret it and it'll make your stories sound even more heartbreaking. Long rant but - yeah tl;dr make Odalia a well-written bitch (abuser)

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#the owl house #toh #odalia mantis #tw abuse mention #long post

[awakefor48hours]

#toh #the owl house #odalia blight #belos #philip wittebane #tw mention of religion #the not spoiler house

[scrabbleknight]

Got bored and am writing an Odalador fanfic. Don't worry; the whole thing is cracked as hell. All you need to know is that being Amity is suffering but, like, in a funny way.

#dont know when ill publish it though #its not a long post with planning like my previous works #ahem #odalador #odalia blight #alador blight #toh #the owl house #not really self insert but it kinda feels like it #toh fanfic #fanfic update #amity blight #mentioned

[non-bee-knees]

Hi hi

This weeks ep *chefs kiss* 😙👌

Just some thoughts:

LOOK AT THIS DUDE! (I’m glad he’s not dead, also, loving the outfit hunny)

Huntlow how we feeling?? (Amazing, thank you ☺️)

WHO ARE THEY?! LOVE THEM ALL OMG 😳

Hey, uh, where’s Lily’s sigil gone??

This poor man, my god 😭

And finally, this precious moment:

Alador Blight needs a strong coffee, therapy, a hug and some affirming words (and to reconnect with Darius)

I adored this ep so much

I’m so scared for next week

#love #abhhh #this ep was amazing #I’m so glad Alador isn’t an asshole #he’s just been manipulated and used his entire life 🤪 #I personally don’t think Odalia ever actually loved him #but unfortunately I do think at one point he loved her #it’s gonna be a classic betrayal sitch’ #anyways #I DIDNT MENTION IT BUT LUMITY #LUMITY #lumity #AHH #the entire budget went into that scene #the owl house #toh #toh spoilers #huntlow #trans Gus??? #it’s more likely than you think

[crystalkiseki]

so i may have created a roleswap au out of nowhere , and really all i did was put luz in hunter's place , amity in luz's , and hunter . well i wanted good things for hunter and it's extremely obvious

#skylar rambles #i don't know if i wanna talk about it because it's silly . i just enjoy the idea of gg luz human amity and hunter having a stable life lmao #either way i've got the backstories down already . emira and edric got dragged into the whole demon realm thing hah #camila 🤝 odalia and alador : having missing children #did i mention luz is still human ? she is #hunter got kidnadopted at age 8 that's his whole arc #the owl house #toh #characters untagged #role swap au #you know just in case