#oedipus cycle

[glomlit]

I know I’m shouting into the void here but please ask me about fratricide

#literature #art #folklore #romulus and remus #cain and abel #set and osiris #notice how the victim is always at the end? yeah #mary and jesus #jesus #grendell #beowulf #hamlet #ITS EVERYWHERE TTωTT #eteocles and polynices #oedipus #oedipus cycle #jocasta #WAASH

[britneyshakespeare]

... No baser custom ever arose among men

than money. It sacks cities and uproots men from their houses.

It is a masterful teacher in perverting the minds of just men,

inciting them to turn to disgraceful deeds.

Money has shown man how to give himself over to iniquity

and encouraged him to every impious deed.

Creon in Antigone by Sophocles, translated by Peter Constantine

#it's funny bc polynices' body was buried for completely opposite reasons #we love familial reverence and honor hell yeah #antigone #sophocles #oedipus cycle #theban plays #poetry #classical literature #greek theater #quotes #it's my brother's bday today. i would do the same for him

[the-ephemeral-ethereal]

Despite so many ordeals, my advanced age and the nobility of my soul make me conclude that all is well.

from Oedipus at Colonus by Sophocles, as quoted and translated in The Myth of Sisyphus by Albert Camus 

#oedipus #oedipus colonus #oedipus at colonus #the oedipus cycle #oedipus cycle #sophocles #the three theban plays #the three theban tragedies #three theban tragedies #three theban plays #tragic #tragedy #absurd #the absurd #absurdism #absurdity #absurd victory #the myth of sisyphus #myth of sisyphus #sisyphus #sisyphos #sisyphean #sisyphean task #albert camus #camus #all is well #ordeals #old age #nobility #wisdom

[daylightaftertherain]

having a fabulous second day of the semester

#I have the entire afternoon off and THIS is what I choose to do w my time #instead of the paper I have on the oedipus cycle #<- having the time of his life

[abba-enthusiast]

i have to go to a modern production of oedipus rex tonight and istg if there's even the slightest hint of audience interaction i'm killing myself on the spot

#last semester we had to go to Another modern oedipus production and mf booked seats in the first two rows and fucking guess what happened. #so i'm expecting the very worst #but hey maybe this will be the production that breaks the cycle of shitty/very disturbing plays i have to go see for school/uni... #fingers crossed

[thecryptkeeper]

bookstore finds 🖤

#and the oedipus cycle has annotation! i also found a copy of gone girl finally and a 1987 print of misery so made out like a bandit methinks

[philtts]

Creon, preaching to Thebes: so help me god please do not touch this damn dead body i will literally stone you to death just leave him be okay

the fucking sentry, running into the room: dude lmao guess what

#antigone #creon #the oedipus cycle #the sentry was the star of the show

[mkzmerryfriend]

Hey quick question, why did Taako choose to name his alter ego the same as Oedipus’s mother/wife?

#I know it means nothing and he probably just came up with it on the spot #but also like #I would bet real good money on this world not having any Greek myths or Oedipus Rex or anything like that #and Taako cycled through all his encyclopedic knowledge of useless shit #and went Jocasta would be a great name for a ranger #taz balance #taz imbalance

[lesbianbanana]

Greek Mythology Characters If They Wrote Books

- If You See A Girl Covered In Blood, She's Having The Time Of Her Life by Artemis

- Gardener's Guide To Common Flowers by Apollo

- A List Of All The Times I Fucked Shit Up by Athena

- Reasons Why You Cannot Be Better Than Me by Aphrodite.

- How To Be Illegal At 2 Hours Old by Hermes

- How To Be The Baddest Bitch Ever by Dionysus

- A Day In The Life Of An Ancient Greek Homicidal Housewife by Hera

- A Day In The Life Of An Ancient Greek Whore Husband by Zeus

- Why You Should Punch Your Brothers In The Face by Demeter

- Vague Dolphin Noises by Poseidon

- When Everyone Hates You But You're Literally Trying You're Best by Ares

- No Comment by Hephaestus

- God Forbid A Girl Have Hobbies by Persephone

- When You're Literally The Only Chill Dude Here by Hades

- Why Family Therapists Should Be A Thing by Hestia

- I Have The Stupidest Boyfriend Ever Prove Me Wrong by Patroclus

- How To Anger Your Great Great Grandfather (Step By Step) by Achilles

- A Series Of Incredibly Stupid Events That Are All My Fault by Odysseus

- Awkward Moment When You're Family Line Is Cursed by The House of Atreus

- I Introduce My Wife To My Mum (End Will Shock You) by Oedipus

- Why You Shouldn't Show Any Interest In Your Dad's Hobbies by Phaethon

- When You Accidentally Started A War But You're Literally Just A Girl by Helen of Sparta Troy

- When You're A Girlboss But Everyone Here Is Misogynistic by Atalanta

- How To Get A Wife Who Actually Likes You by Perseus

- Everyone Hates Me And Honestly Same by Heracles

- How To Raise Homosexuals by Chiron

- When You Try To Help A Pal Out But It Backfires by Asclepius

- Some Girl In The Woods Made Me Transgender by Sipriotes

- Ouch Fuck That Hurts by Actaeon

- I Was Supposed To Break The Cycle But My Husband Kept Eating Our Kids by Rhea

- Why You Should Teach Your Son To Stab People (i.e. Your Husband) by Gaea

- How To Cheat Death (*May Backfire*) by Sisyphus

#greek myths #greek gods #incorrect greek mythology #greek mythology #apollo #artemis #zeus #Hera #athena #hermes #dionysus #heracles #Phaethon #Patroclus #achilles #Odysseus #rhea #gaea #sisyphus #actaeon #perseus #Asclepius #chiron #Hephaestus #hades #Persephone #demeter #ares #Aphrodite

[death-before-ilion]

Fundamental sources

Greek mythology is recorded in numerous texts, covering multiple centuries, locations, traditions and variations. Many of these ancient sources are lost to us, or fragmentary. This leaves us with an incomplete (albeit vast) and oftentimes incoherent collection of written sources on which to base my own work.

The sources which are considered by the ancient Greeks themselves as foundational and central to Greek mythology are essentially : the early Greek epic poets (amongst which is, of course, Homer), Hesiod (author of the famed Theogony, not counted as an epic poet) and the Homeric Hymns (called Homeric because they are written in the same language, style and meter as the Iliad and Odyssey). These texts were written down between the 8th and the 5th centuries BC, and are based on oral material that goes much further back.

Of the early epic poems, only the Iliad and the Odyssey attributed to Homer still survive, considered by the ancient Greeks as the pinnacle of their literature. Of all the other epics, only fragments and (if we're lucky) summaries remain. The Trojan Cycle was made of the following works :

The Cypria, which describes the origin and early years of the Second Trojan War

The Iliad, which tells of the wrath of Achilles and the death of Hector

The Aethiopis, which describes the intervention of Amazons and Ethiopians in the war, and the death of Achilles

The Little Iliad, a dense work that covers events from the funeral of Achilles to the episode of the Trojan horse

The Sack of Troy, which, as its title suggests, tells the events from the Trojan horse to the desctruction of the city and the anger of Athena

The Return from Troy, in which the Greek heroes return home, with tragic developments, such as the murder of Agamemnon and the revenge of Orestes

The Odyssey, tells the return of Ulysses, the longest and most adventurous return of all Greek heroes

The Telegony, that covers further adventures of Ulysses until he is killed by Telegonus, his son by Circe

To this we can add a Theban Cycle (covering the life of Oedipus, both Theban Wars and the revenge of Alcmaeon) and a few additional epics (including a Titanomachy I would have loved to read). Chances are high that there were many more, lost to us even by name.

Hesiod left us three complete works and a number of fragments, the most important of which is the Theogony, which describes how the universe began and the early history of the gods.

Lastly, the Homeric Hymns, of which three may be later additions, are poems or songs that praise the gods, each hymn being dedicated to a specific god.

In the context of my work, these sources will be taken as having the highest authority. Later sources will be accepted if they provide additional material that completes or extends the earlier texts, or if they help resolve an obvious inconsistency or impossibility.

#troy #ancient greece #classical mythology #greek gods #greek heroes #greek mythology #mythology #trojan war #thebes #epic cycle #homer #hesiod #homeric hymns

[loving-family-poll]

Ultimate Incest Tournament - Round 2

Propaganda under the cut:

Antigone/Polynices:

Sometimes a sister just loves her brother a little too much <3

Antigone wanted to be buried thigh to thigh with her brother and her story is so deeply intertwined with his, you quite literally cant talk about her without talking about him. he devoted so much to their family and they're forever together in death

She risked her life defying her uncle the king to give him a proper burial, which did lead to her being sentenced to death!!

The children of Oedipus and Jocasta, incest being a family curse :) the cycle is cycling

"A husband or a child can be replaced but who can grow me a new brother?"

Ginger/Brigitte:

Codependent sisters and werewolves and angst <3

ginger giving into her desire for eating flesh making her horny…. lycanthropy used as a metaphor for gender nonconformity but also… another type of nonconformity…. “we were always considered freaks. there was us, and there was them.” “but you can’t break up with blood. you can’t divorce your sister.” “ginger shoves brigitte backward onto her bed. ginger piles on top of her, playfully pinning her down. GINGER: ‘i want more.’ brigitte squirms fitfully. BRIGITTE: ‘no, it’s too gross! you’ll get caught.’ GINGER: ‘not if you help, bee. i’m starving. tell me you don’t so dig it. tell me you don’t wanna see what happens.’” “SAM: ‘it’s called monkshood [wolfsbane] because people used to think it kept them pure from dirty thoughts. seriously.’ BRIGITTE: ‘make my life easier.’” “brigitte stirs in her sleep. ginger stands at the end of brigitte’s bed, staring at her.” i could just copy/paste the entire original script (such as brigitte masturbating to the sound of ginger having sex). and then it ends in one murdering the other and hugging her dead body. what more can you ask for.

"Out by sixteen or dead on the scene, but together forever."

"I'd rather die than be here without you"

"If I wasn't here would you eat her?" "God, that would be like, fucking her" *later wants to eat Brigitte*

"You know, we're almost not even related anymore."

#tournament polls #tumblr polls #incest poll #antigone/polynices #antigone #ginger/brigitte #ginger snaps #round 2 #tw incest

[thoodleoo]

what old Greek/Latin stories do you recommend for people who are just casually into the idea of reading some? So like, which ones are fun/well-written by today's standards. I've read Rick Riordan's retellings of some stories from Greek and Roman mythology, and I mostly enjoyed those, so I've considered reading some more original text.

it kind of depends on how willing you are to get a translation with extensive cultural notes! unfortunately a lot of the original texts need their context explained in order to fully appreciate what's going on. that's just how it is when you're dealing with several thousand year old poetry.

that being said, if youre looking specifically for stories and not just little collections of poetry, i'd recommend starting off with some of the plays- the oedipus cycle, medea, the oresteia, and even comedies like the frogs. those are popular reads in modern literature classes, so the translations are often more accessible to someone who doesnt know the original language

if youre into mythology, ovids metamorphoses is also a good choice!

[foursaints]

hello! i saw that your barty's knuckle tattoos spell anti n gone. i have to ask, are you referring to the daughter of oedipus, antigone or does it have some other meaning? also! if you are, may i ask why?

yeah i meant antigone! i see barty in her very much, at the very least as the patron saint of doomed characters. especially ones doomed by familial cycles… “we begin in the dark / and birth is the death of us” and all that.

considering crouch sr as the head of magical law enforcement & barty’s trial, i love the passage where antigone rails about the inadequacy of manmade justice and the chorus responds with “raw as her father isn’t she?”

#a #he’s a little more elektra to me (filth teaches filth etc) but that doesn’t fit on knuckles LMFAO

[the-ephemeral-ethereal]

Our life is not as pitiful as you'd think, so long as we find joy in every hour.

from Oedipus at Colonus by Sophocles

#oedipus #oedipus colonus #oedipus at colonus #the oedipus cycle #oedipus cycle #sophocles #the three theban plays #three theban plays #the three theban tragedies #three theban tragedies #tragic #tragedy #absurd #absurdism #the absurd #absurdity #joy in spite of everything #find joy in every day #find joy #joy

[most-tragic-character-tournament]

Lloyd Garmadon Ninjago propaganda/ anti Antigone propaganda:

- Ninjago universe is a representation of more than just Eurocentric concepts of philosophy, culture, myth, and folklore in the tragedy genre because Asian people deserve to have great tragic stories too

- Ninjago and specially Lloyd’s arc contends with the implications and effects of child soldiers, conquest and colonization, war and who benefits/profits from it, among others

- The play Antigone by Sophocles, which everyone is referencing, was as part of a larger play cycle that used the myth of Oedipus as Athenian supremacist propaganda after Athens lost the Peloponnesian War to Sparta. Specifically, these plays (including Antigone) criticize Sparta while lionizing Athens as a beacon of democracy, morals, and the favor of the gods. Friendly reminder that Athens actually conquered/colonized the rest of Greece later and was NOT a true democracy and also had some of the strictest rules limiting the rights of Athenian women. The modern day glorification of Ancient Athens is to the detriment of the rest of Greek history and is linked to the formation of Western supremacy/white supremacy

- on a less serious note Lloyd is superior to Antigone in every aspect so vote for him

[Propaganda]

#propaganda #Lloyd Garmadon #antigone neg

[favouritefi]

okay but pls say more about codependent situationship jopzer in purror & erebark, i crave lore.

you know that part in seaside improvisations by richard siken where its like "tell me you love this, tell me you're not miserable" well thats like the tagline of jopzier in my catboy au. "tell me the life we've built together is something that makes you happy, tell me i'm not a huge disappointment to you, tell me that being together is enough even if you can't tell me you love me" and this mutual desire for a happy ending but the inability to articulate those desires. lore under cut:

in this au crozier has decades worth of feelings that he's always turned a blind eye to in favour of work, and then all of that is over after the failed expedition. no more work, no more exploration, no more social climbing. even the possibility of marrying sophia has disappeared (though crozier refuses to voice this outloud) and all he has is a half renovated cottage in fuckall nowhere and 5 catboys that he never asked for, one of which might be the greatest thing that's ever happened to him (and thus something doesn't deserve). and jopson knows crozier is unhappy but he doesnt know how to fix it, and crozier is unhappy because he feels like he's holding jopson back. he saved jopson from the arctic, mutinied for jopson, quit drinking for jopson and left the navy for jopson, and now jopson's doing what? stuck taking care of an aging old man who can't even afford to get him a tea set that isn't secondhand. theres a part of him that wishes jopson would leave, that thinks he could convince fitzjames to adopt jopson and make him undergo lieutenant training, but there's another part of him where, if jopson himself asked to leave, would be so incredibly angry that he would probably start drinking again.

meanwhile jopson has what could be charitably described as a deep gratitude for the man that changed his life and uncharitably described as an oedipus complex (which is what hickey calls it at every opportunity) with full awareness that he can never act on his feelings because it would legitimately ruin crozier's life. and hes hidden it well from crozier (because crozier doesn't know what normal catboy behaviour is like) but his possessiveness is obvious to nearly everyone else, whether they interpret that as love or duty or both depends on the person. at one point in tasmania crozier is called away by sir john so sophia and jopson are alone together and sophia stares at the door crozier just left through and says smth like "i think his greatest fantasy is for me to be his wife and for you to be the creature who rests beside me, half guard-dog, half lap-cat, as we wait for him to come home" and then she looks at jopson and smiles and says "maybe that's your fantasy too" and jopson is too stunned to respond.

in summary its just a constant cycle of "tell me what you want" "i want what you want" "i dont know what i want" for jopzier here, neither of them can answer the "what are we" question, thats their codependent situationship realness

#ppl who are i/zzy enjoyers might claim e/dizzy plagarism here #but imo its different bc jopzier would never harm the other person #like there is no way crozier would ever shoot jopson #or vice versa #and they arent sick of each other #they arent afraid of change #they just dont know what their options are #in this world that makes loving each other #nearly impossible #purror and erebark