#shadow mantle

[glitch-the-artist]

okay so, Mr. Friend uses the blue soul in his fight.

the reason is because Kris is figuratively drowning in fear, and uh.. your literally slowly sinking deeper into ice cold water.

also mr. Friends boss form is a reference to Mr. X’s final form in resident evil 2, reason being that when you got the shadow mantle in the attic, Mr. Friend tries to ambush you from up their so you wouldn’t have time to react.

This basically led to mr. Friend literally getting bolted back though the wall because of the shadow mantle, and made a bit of V1R3S’s body start to show on them.

ya I’m cookin ice, it taste like water

#deltarune #deltarune secret boss #deltarune oc #bjbs deltarune shits #Mr. Friend dr #Shadow mantle #V1R3S

[kandayuu]

thinking about who took the shadow mantle who within castle town knew about it and it's significance who would feel the need to take it and if it's not someone in castle town who in hometown has access to the closet and would take it what does the mantle even look like in the "real" world

was it taken knowing what it was or was it an accident can you even access the closet in the school as a regular closet anymore was it the knight who took it should we assume that the knight knows it's significance what would the knight gain from stopping the fun gang from defeating secret bosses

#deltarune #deltarune chapter 2 #deltarune theory #deltarune secret boss #i watched a theory video and had a small breakdown lol #the tldr is: idk #but im also not sure i've asked all the right questions here tbh #shadow mantle

[loathemetc]

Debunking my own Deltarune Theory: The Old Chair

In my time as a Deltarune Theorist (trying to make it sound like this is my job) I’ve made some pretty bunk theories, either based on dumb assumptions, jumping the gun with missing evidence, etc. The worst is probably the one where I didn’t even really give a second thought to the Knight being anyone but Gaster, at this point I believe them to be seperate but y’know. But the one I wanna take time to tear apart is the one on The Old Chair because I’ll be honest it’s just like. A random connection I made in five seconds. With a lot of holes. Let’s look at those holes!

Let’s get the most important thing out of the way:

These are not the same fucking chair.

Like just look at them okay. I don’t know what else to say. They’re obviously different. Black legs instead of blue, square top instead of rounded. And there’s the fact that when Toby wants to show something from Undertale he WILL just reuse the same sprite.

Credit to Spriter’s Resource hi Spriter’s Resource I love you.

So okay. That kind of makes the whole theory bunk but let’s keep talking about it anyways. Another proposed theory I’ve seen is that it’s a chair from the hospital.

It’s... Closer. It’s at a different angle so that’d explain the sprite difference and the lighting difference can just be lighting obviously. And sure, even though most things in the Spamton Sweepstakes very obviously relate to Chapter 3, there’s nothing saying they do exclusively.

Is that conclusive? HELL NO!

And Speaking of things that aren’t conclusive, Seam’s warning about getting caught when the sun goes down isn’t very... Conclusive. What does that mean Seam. Are you just telling us to get home before dinner? Is something bad gonna happen in the dark world at night? What the hell is going on?? [Pretend I put an image of Kris doing the YIIK pose here]

The part where I start theory-ing again:

Heyyy it’s the Spamton banner. We missed you Spamton banner.

So what could Darker than Dark mean, exactly? Well I’d posit something but @snowysobsessions already posited it in this post which you should read right now or else the next paragraph isn’t gonna make sense go on read it do it.

So what it it could get darker than dark? I’d really love to see a secret boss sidequest involve creating a Neo Dark Fountain and then sealing it because you have to go to the Neo Dark World for something. Assuming there’s such thing as a Neo Dark World. I don’t think that’s going to happen at all but I do think it would be: Really Cool.

Here’s another random spitball. What if “What if it could get darker than dark” doesn’t actually refer to something we’re not already aware of? What if it just refers to the Dark Worlds? I mean, they’re already darker than dark, negative photon readings, can’t even see through them, warping reality somehow with how dark they are. What if this question was asked, by or to Gaster, before the infamous Entry No. 17? And the chair is like. I don’t know. A chair in his lab or something. I don’t know! I don’t know.

Let’s talk about the water thing while we’re here too.

I mentioned in an addendum to the chair post that the sound file that plays upon clicking on the chair is water.ogg, essentially the same water noises found in Waterfall’s trash zone in Undertale. But Deltarune has another, similar sound file, that also plays ocean-like noises, a bit more realistic ones, called ocean.ogg. Where does this play?

Upon entering the Dark World for the first time, cutting out just as Kris wakes up.

The fact that the dark fountains are called, well, FOUNTAINS, as well as the apparent relevance of the old song from the sea, it feels like there’s a definite theme of water going on in relation to the dark world. Why? Well... There’s not really enough evidence to say anything definitive.

Oh yeah, that guy.

This guy. Uh. Hm. In the last post I proposed that this could just be Spamton directing us away from things we aren’t meant to see. But honestly I don’t think so. The yellow and pink are on opposite sides from Spamton’s glasses, the same as IMAGE_FRIEND, the weird face from the mansion basement that follows the same filenaming scheme that is otherwise only used for “meta” aspects of the game (The gonermaker sequence, dogcheck, game over, the unused files of someone lost alone and calling for help). The filenames for this pair of eyes don’t give us much to work with, just eyes.png and face.ogg, but face.ogg is very notably not Spamton’s laugh. So I feel like we can rule it being Spamton off the table. 

I know a lot of people have associated it with the TV guy, but I feel like this has to be bigger than just that. King and Queen weren’t built on the “meta” aspects of the game like this thing is. FRIEND and the TV both have big smiles, although FRIEND’s is notably bigger. Wilder. 

With all these meta ties and direct connection to a page mentioning something darker than dark, something darker yet darker, I’m unfortunately only left able to ask “Could it be Gaster?”. Alternatively, someone we haven’t met yet related to Gaster. He did ask two people what they think, after all. But it’s all speculation at this point. Maybe it’s the fucking Knight. I don’t know. I really don’t know!

Last thing hold on.

I’m not gonna bother debunking “the shadow mantle could be the sheet on the chair” cause eh. Shadow mantle. Darker than dark. Sure, why not. It could happen. I’ve seen it proposed that King’s Cape is the shadow mantle and I feel the same about that. Sure. It could happen. I’m not stocking too much in either idea but I also don’t think they’re bad ideas. Could happen.

Actual Conclusion: I definitely think Chairiel Deltarune will appear in Chapter 3 in some capacity, but I definitely don’t think Chairiel Undertale will be the secret boss. And also some other conclusions, I don’t know, you read the post.

#deltarune theory #deltarune #chairiel #spamton #spamton g spamton #toriel #gaster #wd gaster #dark world #dark fountain #neo dark fountain #spamton sweepstakes #idk how to tag this everything i just said is like a blur to me #shadow mantle #debunk #debunking #self debunk

[geistdomdude]

this ones going on tumblr

#deltarune #utdr #deltarune chapter 3 #deltarune art #deltarune fanart #shadow mantle haver...

[columboscreens]

#columbo #season 5 #now you see him #lighting. shadows. comp. profile. mwah #screenshots i need hanging above the mantle

[principiumindividuationis777]

#Mickey Mantle #New York Yankees #baseball #MLB #1950s #photography #art #black and white #lighting #shadow #classic sports

[hearth4days]

Blah blah blah nobody understands my blorbos like me whatever. Nobody understands my blorbo-in-laws better than my mutuals. Everybody else go home your takes suck

#hearth's mantle breakdowns #this not biased post is sponsored by raid shadow legends

[stunfiskz]

thinking about toby specifying that king is wearing a mantle

#also looking through random items apparently the sky mantle is an unused item as well #i wonder if it would be like the inverse of what the shadow mantle like wrt what attacks it prevents and all that #i cannot WAIT for when the element system gets more looked into in game man i think abt it a lot #txt

[theflopwonder]

yknow its def not controversial to say but for some reason almost nobody wants to admit it .... if Nightwing was to ever actually be a mantle, Dick is unquestionably going to give it to Tim first.

Personally, i think Nightwing should die with Dick.

However.

If it was, the ONLY logical choice is Tim.

I'm also not a fan of the headcannon that "the real reason Tim was mad/bitter about Robin being taken away was bc Dick didnt offer Nightwing" bc like... yea Tim is presumptuous (see: origin story) but he would never dare to be THAT entitled. It took him 4 years to see himself as a worthy Robin and even then, the surrounding circumstances of that inital realization means whether he ACTUALLY thought that is debatable. Dick giving him Nightwing even without prior events would've never even crossed his train of thought, let alone ACTUALLY physically being in the role. The number existential crises he'd end up having would give him an aneurysm.

(On the flip however, i am a BIG fan of the hc "dick didn't give tim nightwing bc deep down he believed there was a chance Tim was right and wanted to save it in case he was, cuz yknow. Dick Doesnt Like Being Batman. and even tho he still remained batman after bruce came back, he was still leaving it empty for the day Bruce told him to take the suit off cuz yknow perpetual fear of abandonment/not being good enough blah blah blah next paragraph)

The thing about Reborn era getting cut off the way it did means there's so many places it could have went, but i do think its more plausible than not, if there had been absolutely no plan to bring Bruce back, if Tim ended up being completely wrong, and Dick actually had to grapple with seriously being the permanent Batman. I can't and don't believe in my heart of hearts he would watch Tim struggle with his identity for very long. If Dick is the most emotionally intelligent (when he's not in his own emotional distress that is), he would've been enough to realize the parallels between his and tim's situation and him and bruce's and i 100% think he absolutely would've offered.

Now, if Tim would've ACCEPTED the offer.... that's an entirely different (yet equally interesting) debate for another day.

#tim drake #dick grayson #batfamily #all of this is provided dick doesnt any have kids #and by kids i mean Mar'i #'but damian is basically his s-' no. #and while we're at it #steph shouldn't even be in the running #it doesn't even make sense from a narrative standpoint #why would she spend her entire vigiltante career begging to be taken seriously as a gotham team member #then take on a mantle that LITERALLY SIGNIFIES LEAVING GOTHAM???" #the rest of the robins fought to get OUT of Bruce's shadow ... Stephanie fought to get IN #it does not make sense. #deep diving into some comics? :) deep diving into some bitches? :(

[merevide]

people who wanted (and still want) killmonger to somehow return and be black panther instead of just accepting the possibly and fact that it was going to be shuri were so goofy i’m sorry

#like did y’all not watch. the first movie. #he’s an interesting and well written villain but there’s no way they’d let him lead after that and rightfully so #like what made him a villain wasn’t even just the fact that he killed t’challa #the fact that he was consumed with vengeance overrides all the good points that he made #also he ruled wakanda like a dictator and thought about constant world domination #plus why would he come back from the dead. he chose to die in his final moments instead of spending the rest of his life in jail #and even in the ancestral plane he still hadn’t changed even goading on shuri for vengeance and bloodshed (which is what she was feeling in #the moment. but killmonger was a shadow of way she could become and served as a way in her character development) #but yeah tldr shuri deserves the mantle and she’s gonna keep the mantle until further notice stop bringing up how killmonger would be better #because that is a lie #black panther #wakanda forever #erik killmonger #n’jadaka #shuri #shuri udaku #micheal jordan #letitia wright

[teleportationmagic]

Batfamily Succession

Obviously first and foremost, Bruce to Dick to Damian. Your brother-father raising you, moving past a burning rage, building a legend together

But also Bruce to Dick to Tim. Your idol made flesh, but also the disillusionment coming hand in hand with adulthood. Mending and breaking and mending again

And then Barbara to Cassandra to Stephanie. Mentorship and sisterhood, and the eternal quest to be taken seriously by someone who loves you dearly but never seems to see you

But then, Bruce to Jason and Batman to Cass. Batman starting with a murder, pearls on concrete, and Cassandra starting with a murder, blood on her hands, and Jason ending with a murder, the bright blaze of an explosion. Coming back changed. Cassandra revering the legend of Batman, and Jason breaking himself against the unchangeability of Batman.

#Batfamily #cassandra cain #jason todd #bruce wayne #dick grayson #barbara gordon #stephanie brown #tim drake #damian wayne #Does this make any sense. #Also thinking about Bruce and Stephanie (the rejection of legacy) #and Dick and Jason (what is this mantle?) #and Jason and Tim (growing up under a shadow. A cautionary tale coming back) #and Tim and Steph. And Steph and Damian. And Tim and Damian. and Barbara and Tim and -

[aberration-abbey]

Girl help I’m wreathed in an impenetrable haze

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#flight rising #if you're curious but don't want to go to the dressing room that's #starwood embrace. dark incense. incense mantle. arcane aura. shadow aura. #u could also add the mist chime or any of the floaty candles

[glitch-the-artist]

THE KINGS MANTLE.

or the shadow mantle, or his name after you fight and obtain them, Dave.

he is a mantle that is needed thought out the raily roundup boss fight. He is also the cape that the king wore in order to defeat you, which yes I do think the shadow mantle is in fact the kings cape.

#deltarune #deltarune oc #bjbs deltarune #deltarune au #The shadow mantle #deltarune predictions #raily roundup

[himejoshiangels]

duke isn't gothams daytime protector bcs Bruce asked him to be, he's gotham daytime protector because as he was training with Bruce he realized that he works better during the day, his skills or better suited to work with the people of gotham to keep them safe [INSANE RAMBLINGS BELOW]

#its like #no one shares bruces exact vision for gotham <<sometimes he expects them to which is..a whole other bag of worms #but like #this mission hes like a planet pulling them all in w his gravity or whatever and its inadvertently destroying them all #but duke never pretends to like share Bruce's exact goals from the get go hes like i have my own wants and stuff from this whole situation #and despite that usually being an issue in the past bruce is just like aight #<one thing i rlly like abt their dynamic #the cursed wheel arc is abt him learning what kind of vigilante he wants to be and that his people skills #empathy #and willingness to inspire others make him the perfect daytime symbol #duke doesn't do good because he's under the batman mantle #he uses the shadow of the bat as a tool for him to do good #seeing as he was #going to do it himself anyway no matter what

[jhsharman]

shade

I have little doubt there is one or two other versions of this premise in the sea of one page gags-- a premise, I should point out, that is more than a little creepy and not a good model of behaviour for boys to copy.

I am a little curious about this one, following as it does by one year the previous Betty shadows cover, and drawn by the hardly much given drawing jobs Kathleen Webb. I picture her wanting to fulfill a long time desire to draw some swimsuit scene, and taking any assignment that lets her do so -- so see if Glaidir can rehash some thing that fits the bill.

#Archie Comics #Betty Cooper #Veronica Lodge #Shadows #Dilton Doiley #Moose Mason #Reggie Mantle #Swimsuits #Dan Decarlo #1984 #1997 #Kathleen Webb #1998 #Beach #1986 #Stan Goldberg #2001 #Standing behind Archie in cover 3 is a likeness of long time colorist Barry Grossman

[aq2003]

i want to save more of my thoughts on fabian until after i finish fhsy and see where his character goes but i truly can't stop thinking about the scene where he fistfights his dad in the jail cell bc like. at his core he isn't fighting out of rage, he's fighting bc that's what he thinks will make bill happy. the whole "act of rebellion" isn't even rebelling it's him trying to shape up into the person his dad wants him to be on every possible level. the dynamic between them is so. ugh. it's complicated and messy and So fucking good like. it's so clear they care abt each other but also bill puts so much pressure on fabian to be like him and fabian has tied his self worth entirely to his dad's approval. it makes me want to chew rocks

#fabian seacaster #bill seacaster #i don't want to scroll too far down his tag bc i know there's sophomore year spoilers everywhere but like. yeah #the note freshman year leaves fabian on is so interesting like the exact moment. of fabian smashing the message #of bill telling him exactly what he had to hear and internalize. and instead taking up that pirate mantle in the wake of his death #there is that seed of 'fabian learning to step out of bill's shadow' but the fact it's a seed at all gives this #honestly pretty tragic angle to fabian i really love. and i hope that gets expanded on in fhsy. #i took a break from fh bc i knew for a fact i would get brain damage over the hp ripoff spinoff season but next on my list is fhsy lol #d20 #fantasy high #completely unedited post if this makes 0 sense then wel i guess i'll die