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musclesandhammering · 10 months
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Spn Opinions That’ll Have Me Burned at the Stake Pt. 2: Electric Boogaloo
I’m back and bitchier than ever. For reference, here’s part 1.
• Season 5 wasn’t that great.
• D*stiel isn’t real, it’s a sucky ship, and that confession scene was just the writers pandering to the rabid deancas fans cause they knew they were the only ones still watching the show lol. And they left it ambiguous enough that they could still say it was meant platonically if they needed to.
• I hate how they watered down both angels and demons post-season 5ish.
• I liked Ruby 1.0 better than Ruby 2.0.
• I hate Honey!Cas. They just did that cause they didn’t know where to take his story from there, needed him out of the way, and thought it would be funny. It was insulting.
• Jack should’ve been played by an actual child so everyone’s abuse of him would resonate with the audience for what it was (casual fans are brain dead and need to be spoon fed).
• Victor Henrikson deserved more time on the show.
• I said it in the last post, but Alex is way more interesting than Claire and should’ve been given the lead role in the wayward sisters storyline instead.
• Dean is canonically straight and for Christ sake if you guys wanted bi rep, there’s about a thousand other characters that are strongly coded or implied to be bisexual (including Sam!) but y’all didn’t focus on them because it wasn’t actually about representation, it was about making it more plausible for your dumb fetishised gay ship to actually happen (spoiler: it didn’t).
• Season 3 and Season 6 were some of the best ones, you guys just don’t have any taste.
• Claire is not Castiel’s daughter and saying she is erases Jimmy and insults her, and even Cas himself acknowledged that on the show.
• Castiel is canonically NOT gay and Misha constantly saying he is is annoying and airheaded. He’s been attracted to women IN THE SHOW and he’s not even really male, so calling him a Gay Man is reductive and just plain wrong. Also, it’s veeery sus that- given how bi/pan folks are even more underrepresented than gay people- that one of the rare times where the bi/pan label actually fits a character BETTER in CANON……. the allies and monosexuals adamantly reject it. Hm.
• “Curing” vampires or werewolves or demons shouldn’t have been a thing.
• The Winchesters cause most of the bad shit that happens and then they just force supernatural beings to fix it for them- tell me again how they’re Super Special Heroes.
• It shouldn’t be possible to make angels human by removing their grace, because (unlike demons, werewolves, etc) they were never human to start with. If you drained me of all my blood, I wouldn’t magically transform into another species, I’d fucking die.
• Making Billie go crazy was dumb.
• Rowena was one of the most interesting and charismatic characters on the whole show- they just didn’t know what to do with her character.
• The archangels, Lilith, and Azazel should’ve been the biggest threats on the show. No other knights of hell, no god and his sister, no Cain, nothing like that. Having every villain just get progressively more overpowered made the show unbelievable and repetitive and annoying.
• The kernel sanders king of hell guy was hot.
• Dean is misogynistic as HELL, homophobic, likes racist porn, is a narcissist, pervs on teen girls, & thinks all non-human people should be exterminated… and that is all CANON.
• Most of John Winchester’s abuse is fanon.
• Fans portraying Cas as a smol bby who colours in colouring books and has a bee plushie is so fucking annoying.
• Instead of having so many gigantic cosmic storylines with god and his sister and alternate dimensions and even the angel and demon tablets, they should’ve just scrapped those and made the stein family and the bmol and the alpha vampire storylines way bigger than they were. Less cosmic stuff, more earth-based stuff.
• They ruined Lucifer’s character post-season 5. Before that, he was more sympathetic and reasonable than Michael. After, he was a spoiled child hurting people for fun.
• Everything from season 7 on is garbage. All of it. There’s bits of goodness here and there but overall seasons 7-15 are trash.
• How the fuck are there actual people who are deangirls and hate Sam?? The space where your brain should be is empty, I swear to god.
• If there was gonna be any lgbt rep in the Wayward Sisters group, it should’ve been Jody and Donna instead of Claire and Kaia. Those two were boring as hell and had zero chemistry or build-up, but Jody/Donna had plenty of chemistry and was very believable.
• Meg has the best and most realistic redemption arc of anyone on the show.
• Chuck was not likeable or charismatic enough to carry off as big of a villain arc as they gave him. Also that whole thing was stupid and WAY too Out There.
• All the angels should’ve been aroace. All the demons should’ve been pan.
• I stanned Cole so hard up until he changed his mind about hating Dean. That was disappointing.
• Sam went through the same shitty childhood Dean did (plus Bonus Abuse on top of it) and he didn’t turn out Like That.
• I cannot think of a single person that was asking for a spin-off about the Winchester family, like that has to be the most boring thing.
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shinelikethunder · 3 months
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i know that the most convenient shared reference point for splitting SPN into eras is by showrunner, but subjectively, the instinctive way my brain wants to divide it up is into just two shows: six seasons and change of a show powered by whatever the fuck is wrong with kripke and gamble, and then eight or nine seasons of a show powered by whatever the fuck is wrong with dabb and buckleming.
yeah carver was showrunner for some of those and gamble was hanging on by her fingernails in one, but there's... idk, a derailment that happens in s7. where the show's coherence, its plausibility as a continuation that's at least trying to build seamlessly on what came before, kinda falls down and never gets back up again. and this seems driven, not primarily by showrunner agenda (in fact the hallucifer arc is IMO the last shambling remnant of SPN v1), but by dabb/loflin and buckner/ross-leming stepping up as the meat-and-potatoes midseason episode writers + both duos getting bolder (or less tightly edited) about their worst tendencies.
(tbh i'm curious what carver's tenure would've looked like with a different set of writers taking point on the anchor episodes that weren't openers/finales, because haphazard execution of intriguing concepts was like theeee hallmark of s8-11. but all the same. carver and dabb eras and late gamble era feel grouped, to me, by similar implementation issues dragging down distinct overall approaches. aka "whatever the fuck is wrong with dabb and buckleming," which also includes more and more of their personal narrative kinks as the seasons go on.)
anyway none of this has any objective backstop to it that i can point to, beyond "gosh look at where the Writing Crimes Georg duos started getting handed entire mini-arcs." mostly it's just this vibe that s6 and some of s7 were still cooking in s1-5's kitchen? an attachment to the continuity there, which beats out the conceptual tidiness of "kripke era" as a line to draw between "classic" SPN and everything else. or, to be petty and specific, a sense that 7x03 and the dumbshit subplot it instigated were the shark-jump that SPN never even tried to recover from, after which it functionally became a different show that was far more loosely held together than its predecessor.
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the-gray-ghosty · 9 months
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Don't think about Sam teaching Jack to tie his shoes, don't think about Sam making Jack lunch and showing him different types of food, don't think about Sam tucking Jack into bed at night and comforting him after nightmares, Don't think about Sam becoming the parent he wished he had as a child
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malewifesam · 3 months
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don't get me wrong, I do love dean, I love him dearly, but I don't like that he came back first thing in s4, like literally in the first scene. they made hell out to be such inescapable doom, no one could do anything to stop it or to bring dean back, and then it's like he wasn't even gone. like, let me suffer a bit. let me languish. let me actually see sam spiraling, trying everything under the sun to get his brother back, getting obsessed with revenge. even if it's just one episode.
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seasononesam · 2 years
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Supernatural Make Me Choose: anonymous asked season 12 or season 14?
God writes paperback books in his underwear, 'kay? And angels are dicks.
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witchychanel · 1 year
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unpopular opinion but I honestly don't enjoy dark fics.
I feel like I'm to stubborn to let them talk and treat me like that. Like yeah the house is a mf mess, like no duh I got a kid.
like I've seen family members struggle with working and having kids, that shit is not cute. it's mad annoying I'm so sorry.
A Wife should always serve her husband?! nah he needs to serve me.
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So uh... Just searched an interview with Ale ia Fast about her role as Dean's Daughter in Supernatural and... Here are her thoughts about Emma:
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So yeah... For everyone saying Sam was justified in killing her in Slice Girls; he kind of wasn't, meaning that we could've had a great female protagonist along side the male ones if it wasn't for the shows inconsistent wiriting...
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samsrowena · 2 years
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↳ make me choose @bloodydeanwinchester asked: season one or season ten?
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I think people need to understand that Dean's response or lack thereof to Castiel's confession was completely in character.
You cannot expect a man who is affection starved and has been suffering in the conundrum of a violent self loathing having a ship full of insecurities to suddenly accept and reciprocate his feelings to a confession. Dean had no idea what Castiel was gonna do, the empty swallowing him moments after. It isn't fair to expect him to immediately respond to such an unbelievable fact. Because unfortunately for our hunter, it is utterly unbelievable to him.
I feel that scene was done masterfully. The writers knew Dean's psyche, knew how he would react. Ackles's acting only complemented that. It's in the eyes. All in the eyes. Verbal confirmations are good no doubt but sometimes the depth can only be found in the unspoken. If one looks at his posture after Cass's death, the suffocation he exudes, you can hear the desperation to speak, to scream clearly. I loved how Dean's face was transforming with Cass's words.
His 'Don't do this man' was a drowning man clutching at a straw. He couldn't force the words out. It is the stereotypical incoherent illogical and despondent 'No no no no please no' people tend to spew in a childlike hope that negating the ongoing scene would revoke it.
It was no grand confession, no eloquent speech and no way to put into words what he had always felt for his best friend. But then that is the tragedy of their love story isn't it?
Words and a simple exchange of I love you's would've cheapened the moment and oversimplified their feelings.
In my opinion, that scene was perfect.
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samsno1 · 1 month
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idk is its just me but the kiss dean and amara shared disgusted me so much
their """"love"""" was only based on the moc and i feel that amara took advantage of dean's vulnerability in that moment
i hate it, that scene made me sick to my stomach, this whole storyline made me physically ill, everytime amara "seduced" him, be it unintentionally or not, i would have to stop watching for a few moments because their whole dinamic was forced and it looked wrong
idk man, it was so weird to me and i dont think i would willingly watch that again, it was horrible, i felt horrible. just remembering it sends shivers up my spine
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spneveryseason · 8 months
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I said this back in 2019 when s15 started airing but something I wanted the show to address so bad as it was ending was the weird status quo established by its leads. In that Sam and Dean knew pretty much exactly how the universe worked (how it ran, what happens after death, etc) that things like death were like…not really a stake anymore? Because for the most part, we know and they know what happens when they die so it’s not even really a factor. The impact of death is gone entirely. It doesn’t even matter anymore really, because they either go to Heaven (happiness, even if it’s a lie) or Hell (which they can easily get in and out of now).
So the only way to really blow up that status quo would’ve been to full on just hit reset and make Sam&Dean just like everyone else. (OR to have gone the other way and just had them take over and rule the universe but like that would’ve been a very different outcome). And to do that they should’ve either a. Blow up all the rules/the way the universe works, leaving Sam&Dean fully in the dark again or b. Have everyone else (like the whole world) be brought into the know like them to even the odds (if everyone is super then no one can be type logic).
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uh-ohspaghettio · 1 year
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Jack and Claire are siblings but not cause they’re both Cas’s children but because Jack is Cas’s son and Claire is Dean’s daughter
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*taps mic* Castiel is a queer icon because he’s nonbinary and his sexuality is ambiguous, not because he was supposedly in love with Dean.
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the-gray-ghosty · 8 months
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Also on this track, now i'm thinking about how castiel LET himself be possessed by lucifer, BRINGING LUCIFER INTO THE WORLD, after Sam sacrificed himseld and was tortured for hundreds(?) of years in the cage. Not to mention the r*pe jokes that lucifer/hallucifer kept making at sam, it's horrible that castiel let him into the world and I think that dean and sam should NOT have forgiven him for it.
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transmascsam · 7 months
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Which SPN character's crimes are you the #1 defender of to the end of time?
I'll say jack and mary for sure. nothing either of them did was that bad or at the very least worse than anything salmondean have done ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ jack killing mary was an accident, and mary working with the bmol means nothing in the context of the show when sam is pretty regularly forced to work with people who tortured him or otherwise personally harmed him and there's no fuss over that. working with someone who's hurt sam for the greater good is on par with normal accepted behavior in the spn universe actually.
now should there be a fuss about this happening over and over? sure, but that's a different conversation. why is it specifically when mary does it that the show cares lol. like the writers want to give narrative weight to mary working with the bmol on the tail end of them seriously considering a lucifer redemption arc??? make it make sense.
also if you're angry at mary for not mothering her sons who are in their mid-to-late 30s when she has 29 years of existence under her belt. idk what to say.
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Y'all bore me to tears I am passing out
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