Stop Bad Mouthing Your Baby
“...You just remember Rodney got replaced by Rhonda the Pitbull and she just had puppies. I can sell you to the junkyard and the whole litter will piss on you.”
“Still bad mouthing your baby,” he says and her entire frame goes completely rigid. “She’ll never purr for you if you threaten her.”
She spins around to scowl at him and his smile wavers. The dimple vanishes. He’s taller and broader and even more alluring than she remembers in her dreams at night.
“I half expected you and Gale to be on the NASCAR circuit by now as a kickass husband-wife duo.”
“Life didn’t turn out that way. Yet,” she says and he nods...
A while back, the incredibly talented and lovely @little-lynx gifted this sketch to me, inspired by my story 9000 rpm and I am so glad she gave me permission to share it now. There's so much I love about this sketch. Peeta working on Alimony. Katniss getting lost in watching him work, looking at him like she's trying to figure him out or figure out her feelings for him. Her holding a socket wrench against her cheek, ready to hand it to him if he needs it. The soft coloring like it's twilight and muggy. Just... asdsakfdskagnjreskl. Chef's kiss.
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pls tell me more about her + her relationship with iroh and lu ten.. she's so fascinating
GUH. thank you for asking anonsie pie. (TAKES DEEP BREATH
fuhua is a firebender, but wasnt part of the FN army. she was an entertainment firebender at this speakeasy/club for the elite joint in caldera city. her and iroh were both pushing thirty already when they met. he was just sorta tooling around with his military buds doing bachelor playboy prince shit and they ended up going into the joint. fuhua was the biggest hardass out of all the girls working that day, so she was the one entrusted to entertain His Royal Highness and his posse of noble dickheads.
iroh and fuhua actually hit it off pretty well. he was very enraptured by her while watching her perform and bend and whatever, so he followed her when she took her break and struck up a conversation with her, bought her fancy drinks and stuff. he liked her whole attitude (he is well known for liking women with attitudes) and look and whatever. she found him charming and easy to talk with despite his status. irohs pals ended up leaving after a while but iroh stayed behind because he wanted to talk to fuhua allllllll day and was totally caught up in their growing tension. eventually fuhua had to leave, so he offered to walk fuhua home. she accepted, they (naturally) had a one night fling, iroh went back to the palace, that was supposed to be that. cus having flings isnt an out of the ordinary thing for young iroh he was a #slut I'm sure we can all agree on that.
HOWEVER azulon naturally at this point is very tired of his favorite son going around whoring himself out but never picking a wife because he's pushing thirty and he needs an heir if he wants to do more military stuff. so azulon lined up a bunch of well born daughters and was like "Okay son I've had it with your dumbassery pick a wife right now". and iroh didn't like ANY of the women azulon had picked out. but then he remembered fuhua, who he got along with like a house on fire.
now please note, I made it clear in my awesome comprehensive list of Horrible No Good Fuhua Personality Traits that this woman is NOT built for marriage OR having kids. she's meant for the single hot girl life, bottomless mimosas everyday and coconut hair treatments and living alone with a cat that's as much of a jackass as she is. But its not like she can say NO to the crown prince of the fire nation, obviously. even if he seemed like a decent (????) guy. iroh found her not long after and proposed to her like "hey my dad wants me to get married but i didn't like any of the noble women Please Please PLEASE be my wife I'll make sure you never have to want for anything".
having a fun little evening chit chat session at the bar and then getting freaky for one night with a handsome guy is one thing. Being forced to marry him and have his kids is another!!!!!!! <- and fuhua is tormented by fear of having kids. on top of her just Not liking them and not being willing to give up her single hot girl lifestyle, she is tormented by fear of pregnancy and labor and all that. pregnancy and childbirth can kill you, it can kill your child (AND THEN SHE'LL HAVE TO GET PREGNANT AGAIN because she cant stop until she gives iroh an heir), it can ruin your body, so on so forth. there's a lot of factors to it that get overlooked.
and on top of that, fuhua may have worked in a club for the elite, but she was not well born. she is not a noble. she has no military creds, no training, no nobility rich people etiquette, no nothing. azulon was NOT pleased, and he made that very clear to iroh. iroh didn't give two shits, but what he didn't do was defend fuhua from azulons ire. because azulon would insult fuhua pretty openly, ALL the time. about her commoner status, her lack of "manners", how she doesn't support iroh's military ventures and shit, so on and so forth. azulon wanted iroh to have a wife that was like ilah, basically. and the worst part is that azulon would do it AROUND fuhua, but never to her face- he'd always phrase his antagonism as a question to iroh, as if fuhua was irohs misbehaving lapdog or some shit. and iroh NEVERRRR got on his dads case for it because "that's just how my father is lol don't let it get to your head dearest!!!!". just very blase and ignorant. naturally, fuhua got sick of it VERY quickly.
she took her frustration out on anyone she could. she stopped being nice to the servants, she'd antagonize ozai (who was like. a teenager at the time.), despite ozai going out of his way to avoid fuhua at all costs (ozai shared his fathers sentiments on her status and lack of manners, but he couldn't compare her to his mother. because ozai never got to meet ilah himself<- i hc that ilah died in childbirth having ozai (which is part of the reason why azulon hates ozai so much and iroh was so distant with ozai)), so on so forth. fuhua has a pretty short fuse, so she got super angry and bitter with EVERYTHING very quick. she tries to pick fights with iroh but iroh is like???? somehow oblivious to his wife's turmoil.
and then she gets pregnant and he just starts writing it all off as hormones. she hates it as much as she knew she would, but her growing hatred for iroh and everything in existence makes it even worse. she treats being pregnant like having a bug under your skin or something. its like her worst nightmare. she isn't even allowed to smoke her pipe while shes pregnant. she would, if it meant that shed kill the baby, but then she'd just have to get pregnant again. might as well get it over with. <-its at this point where she already starts planning to run away from the palace as soon as she gives birth to the baby.
on a rare night where shes pretty relaxed, iroh asks her if she wants to come up with names with him over tea. its so randomly pleasant that for a second she thinks that maybe she could become okay with this life, so long as she can get her husband to grow a pair and defend her from his father. they come up with a big list of girl and boy names, and end up going with hana for a girl, and toshiro for a boy.
azulon announces literally the next day that the kids name will be either ilah ii for a girl, or lu ten for a boy.
iroh puts up zero fight about this despite him having literally just decided on names with his wife the previous day. fuhua goes right back to hating his fucking guts.
fuhua does not internally acknowledge the baby as a human. she insistently refers to the baby as an it, sees the baby as irohs spawn, etc, etc. at the point in her pregnancy where her hormones and body pain are at its peak shes genuinely insufferable to be around. like to the point where even iroh cant take it, so she just. holes herself up in their chambers for the most part. but soon she gets weirdly excited- because while even the idea of inevitably giving birth very soon scares her shitless, and even sensations of movement and whatnot from the baby makes her want to cry hysterically- its also the final bridge she'll need to cross before she can leave.
she'll leave the baby with iroh. he can have it, she doesn't want it. shes not sticking around long enough for it to be decided that iroh needs a spare heir. she'll leave empty handed and leave the main island entirely, cut her hair even. she'll go and live quietly in shu jing with one of her cousins or something. if the palace sends out a witch hunt to try and find her, she'll run to the fucking earth kingdom if she has to. shes not raising iroh's child, she's most definitely not having another one with him. she'll kill herself if all else fails.
and essentially, lu ten is born without complications, is confirmed to be a firebender. fuhua notes that iroh holds the baby with tenderness and reverence, but decidedly wouldn't care either way. she leaves in the night as soon as her legs allow her.
azulon almost sends out a witch hunt for her, but iroh tells him no, he'll go look for her himself. its not like she would've gotten far, as she's still recovering from childbirth. iroh just sends out some of the domestic forces all across the island to sneak around and try and find her.
fuhua had decided to stop and stay one night at a little inn by the docks of the homeland before leaving to shu jing at first light, but for a hefty price (and fear of the royal familys wrath), the innkeeper rats her out to the soldiers that come in asking about her.
the soldiers return to business as usual once shes found just as asked, because iroh wanted to confront her alone. by the time he gets there in the early morning, he finds her preparing her raft by the docks. they confront each other and have a final one sided screaming match, fuhua pulls a knife and tells him if he tries to take her back she'll kill herself. iroh is pretty despaired, but thinks better of it and lets her go. he returns to the palace and convinces azulon (with difficulty) that he's okay with her leaving, and that lu ten is probably better off with just him anyway.
its only when azulon realizes that he agrees with that sentiment and expresses relief and satisfaction that it hits iroh how much azulon hated his wife. for some reason. but its not like he can do anything about it now.
iroh finds out through his contacts where exactly fuhua has settled down, but he ends up dropping it because he stopped caring. he has no time for a wife anymore regardless and probably never has, feels distant guilt about that, but also gladness that fuhua took the initiative to put herself first (<-WHICH IS UNFOUNDED ON HIS PART). because he'd rather she do that then stay and have lu ten subjected to her vitriol (<-IROHS FAULT).
and fuhua does end up living alone with a cat that's as much of a jackass as she is and gets coconut oil hair treatments and bottomless mimosas everyday like God intended. she doesn't keep track of whatever the fuck her ex husband does unless she hears about it on the street or whatever.
a few years later she hears that iroh's brat younger brother has taken a wife, and she has to laugh about that. she goes home and pours one out for the poor wretch.
even later than that, she hears that all the suffering she went through for iroh amounted to nothing. because iroh has allowed the dirt eaters in ba sing se to kill his son. it takes all the strength within her to not feel any kind of satisfaction or vindication at the karma of it all.
when the whole nation has a state of mourning in lu tens honor and portraits of him are plastered everywhere, its the first time she gets a glimpse of what he ended up looking like.
he has iroh's square jaw, his eyebrows, his sharp eyes- but he has her high cheekbones, her narrow face, her long nose, her dimples, her deep brown skin. handsome and gentle-faced.
she looks at him for a while longer, digests all that information, and then promptly goes back to browsing the market. because shes making crab and asparagus soup tonight and frankly, that's more important to her.
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to have, to live, to be with(out)
or an amateur's attempt at looking at Pat's "It's me who can't live without you" in Our Skyy 2 ep 15 4/4. Not fluent, just a nerd, standard disclaimers apply, fluent speakers please take me to school, etc. Transcription is into IPA.
ANYWAY. All this came up because @dimplesandfierceeyes asked about the literal translation of Pat's "I can't live without you" (I'd wailed about the way the Thai hit worse for me in a shared groupchat).
I was thinking about looking at the whole sequence because it adds a lot imo, but I'm not sure about two bits (Nanon, you're a great actor, but your diction as Pran is not beginner or intermediate friendly), so I'll just stick with that one phrase and the one that kicks the exchange off.
Pat starts off teasing Pran
ภัทร์: บอกมึงไง ไม่มีกูมึงอยู่ไม่ได้เลย
Pat: "told you, didn't I -- you can't live without me"
(second clause is breaks down to "((not have) me) (you (exist (not possible) (+ emphasis particle)")
Then there's the whole back and forth, and in the end, he concedes
ภัทร์: มึงก็รู้แล้วไง
Pat: you already know this, too (+ fondly exasperated emphasis particle)
ปราณ: ว่าไงครับ
Pran: hm? so what is it?
(Adding ครับ /krap/ for polite emphasis, sorta … lovingly teasing)
ภัทร์: กูเองอะ อยู่ไม่ได้หรอก ถ้าไม่มีมึง
Pat: It's me. [I] can't be. If [I] don't have you.
(I myself -- exist not possible [emphasis particle] -- if not have you)
And the issue here, in translation, is with both the อยู่ไม่ได้หรอก /jù: mâj dâj rɔ̀ːk/ and the ถ้าไม่มีมึง /tʰâː mâj mi: mɯŋ/ because. They do mean exactly what the subs say! But translation, as always, also deals in nuance, in tone, overlap and gaps. And here, we're dealing with two pretty basic words that function juuuust differently enough from English in most cases that there's … wiggle room, I guess? for things to feel a little differently.
a) อยู่ /jù:/ means "to exist, to live (somewhere), to be (present)", so อยู่ไม่ได้ /jù: mâj dâj/ can be both "[someone/something] can't be" and "[someone/something] can't live" (which we could argue are similarly overlapping in English, but in Thai, it's one word for both -- there are separate, higher-register words for "to exist" and "to be alive" and "to dwell at place", but that's not what we're dealing with here). I suppose even the more dramatic translation of "I can't survive" would be an option for that particular clause, depending on context.
b) Thai uses มี /mi:/ as both "to have" and "to exist", sort of similar to how 有 you3 works in Mandarin or how ある and いる work in Japanese. Or even (sort of, if you squint) in English, if you think about "I have a friend" -- a person exists who is your friend, a friend is available to you (generally speaking, even if maybe not right now. They're your friend whether they're here with you this very moment or not).
But that means ถ้าไม่มีมึง is simultaneously both "if you don't exist" and "if I don't have you". Maybe there's less of a gap here in English than my brain is painting for me right now, too? It's not ambiguous in Thai, I don't think, but in English, in translation, obviously the subtitling team had to make a choice (and they made the most devastating choice possible because they know their audience, good job, translation team).
I'm pretty sure it's also – maybe notably, maybe obviously – NOT "I can't live when you're not there/not here" (as in, "not in the same place as I am"). I'd expect a ถ้ามึงไม่อยู่ if they wanted to express that, explicitly.
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