#thor critical

[charalysis]

Thor

SPOILERS FOR GOD OF WAR RAGNAROK AHEAD

In God of War, Thor is less of a consistent threat, and more of a minor antagonist. He's huge in stature, imposing and comes off cold. He's got the power to back up his appearance too. But throughout the story, Thor is shown to be depressed, reserved, and honestly broken.

Where, though, does this brokenness originate? The obvious answer is Odin, his father, but let's delve into the how, why, and theories I have on the why.

Thor was born to Odin and his Jotnar mother, Fjörgyn. Odin, despite his hatred of the Jotnar, adored Fjörgyn, marrying her. His love was so great that, according to Mimir, he was not the same after her death. It is implied by a lore marker that their own son was somehow responsible for Fjörgyn's unspecified demise.

It mentions that her body shall be borne to "where nevermore the Thunder may find her". In addition, the same Marker says that "for her gift of life, her life was claimed", further supporting this suggestion.

Its not clear when she died in Thor's life, but I have two ideas. One, Thor had a temper since childhood and in a fit, killed Fjörgyn. Two, Fjörgyn passed away giving birth to Thor and Odin, in his grief, blamed the newborn Thor. Either way, this sets the stage for the dynamic between father and son.

In game, we routinely see Odin insulting Thor, belittling him, and generally emotionally abusing him. Based on how used to it Thor seems, it's likely Odin has done that since he was a child. Odin claims Thor can't be gotten along with because he won't accept kindness, and has always been rude. Odin fails to acknowledge that's he is responsible for Thor's lack of empathy and inability to accept love.

Thor was raised as a tool, not a son. Thor's humanity isn't recognized by the person who was meant to love him. Instead, that person was the first to hurt him deeply.

Thor also references the idea of not thinking, saying Atreus's thinks too much, and saying "no thinking" often. This ties into Odin's abuse of Thor. Thor can't question him if he can't have an individual thought, thus Thor was taught to never think for himself.

This is why Sif is so important in his life.

Sif brings him back a bit, helps him remember he is actually allowed independent thought. He's allowed to make choices for himself and his family without Odin butting in. Unfortunately, there's little she, or their daughter, can do. Thrúd is convinced Odin isn't a monster so she doesn't stand up to him. Even when Sif reaches Thor, he struggles to act on her words and suggestions because Odin has the power, and mindset, to kill him if he stood being Odin's pawn. Which, he inevitably does.

Odin kills Thor at the end game of Ragnarok. Kratos finally reaches Thor, convinces him change is possible and in reach. Thor tells Odin no.

Odin runs in through in anger.

This all isn't to say Thor was a pure victim in life, absolutely not. He murdered hundreds of giants, abused his sons, and was generally regarded poorly by all. However, these actions were initially planted into him by Odin. Thor is an example of an abuse victim growing to perpetuate the cycle unfortunately.

With his sons, particularly Modi I think, Thor beat discipline into them from what Mimir had said. Something that Odin allegedly had done to him. Hence why when Modi returned home without Magni and the mission overall failed, he beat Modi near to death.

Thor is so convinced he's a destroyer, a problem, that he continues to perpetuate abuse until his sons are gone. Then he turns further into self hatred and self harm with his alcoholism, which, once more, only serves to further cause his family harm.

Tl;Dr: Thor is a deeply broken man who suffered abuse from very early in life at the hands of his father. He continues the cycle for many years, and when he finally tries to break it, it costs him his life.

#character analysis #gow ragnarok #gow ragnarök spoilers #thor #thor god of war #thor gow #thor odinson #odin god of war #odin gow #thor critical

[ladylaufeyson1]

Thank fucking god.

#thor #thor critical #anti thor love and thunder #anti taika waititi #lets hope loki season two gets the memo now #ill never forgive this asshole for ruining the franchise #never #i feel like chris h will bow out now which is fine #give the role to someone who actually gives a flying fuck

[deaddee-anime-brownfanlady]

I haven't watched the new Thor movie Love and Thunder yet or might not have enough of a full interest to watch it really.  While I do like some of the visuals within the movie from what I saw from the trailers like dealing with new Asgard, but to be honest everything else about this movie just seems like a whole bunch of loud nonsense to me at least from what I’ve been seeing from it and hearing about the plot.  How the main antagonist of this recent Thor is supposed to be a god-killer...but besides all that the movie itself just looks like its trying be like another Ragnarok  2.0  mix with Guardians of  Galaxy  with very little substance going on if you take away the entire God-killer aspect of it.  Really how many times is Thor going to  " Find himself "  like wasn't the point of the first Thor film was to have Thor grow as a better person and be less of a arrogant prince.   We're now he's seems to have turned into a douchy Dudebro jerk  or  were it's mostly feels like Chris Hemsworth is just playing himself.  It's feels like not only Loki been retconned in terms of the  Larry show but also Thor as well seems like he been retconned too.

#mcu criticism #thor critical #marvel criticism #thor odinson #anti taika waititi #mcu critical #thor love and thunder #thor marvel #thor meta #loki series criticism

[murasakikagekitsune]

I'm angry at Thor, probably unreasonably so, for abandoning Jane in her hour of need. Granted, he didn't know that she has cancer, given the fact that he's with the Guardians of the Galaxy the entire time, but I think that he should've checked in with her - Jane may have accounted for a person in his (frankly ignorant) support system after Loki's death. They may have remained friends after breaking up, too. Hence, I believe it is largely Thor's responsibility to maintain contact with her during this time (since there is a high risk of the chemotherapy making her too sick to do anything, let alone talking to someone who's in space) and find out she's got cancer, choosing to return to Midgard and support her; clearly, he doesn't do that.

Besides, I would never this - not be a rock to someone who is terminally ill. She could've died from a) the tumour, b) being immunosuppressed, or c) the voluntarily inflicted acute radiation sickness of chemotherapy. Jane needs the support, right now, more than Thor does - never mind the fact that my Otherpartner has had both before, because of Hiroshima.

#cancer mention #chemotherapy #immunosuppression #tw: possible character death #past character death #thor love and thunder #jane foster #acute radiation sickness #the atomic bomb will always be unforgivable #past thor x jame #i love asa-sama so much right now #Thor has PTSD #thor critical #thor meta

[spearxwind]

Dad on dad violence

#gow #god of war #god of war ragnarok #thor #kratos #atreus #im not immune to any of them.... yeah. hello it is time for more thorposting. i will take no criticism #shitpost #windyart #scribble comic #not really but yeah kinda #ouhhh yeah baby its all coming together #best of

[wenellyb]

I get why some people didn't like the Marvels since it didn't center around male characters, but that could never be me I absolutely loved it.

#it's funny to see some people criticize the movie for the same stuff they were praising in the Avengers Captain America and Thor movies #the marvels #kamala khan #monica rambeau #carol danvers #the marvels spoilers #brie larson

[dkmbookworm]

Something that really pisses me off is this assumption that because you dislike the current direction with Loki and Thor’s characters, it must mean that you “hate comedy” and “want everything to be serious and gloomy”. As if the only form of comedy that exists is weird, random antics. What is this attitude that thor and loki were never funny in the previous films? The only difference is that the comedy was formed based on their personalities and conflicts with other people or situations, rather than just them being stupid or quirky.

#loki series negativity #loki series critical #anti thor ragnarok #anti thor love and thunder #anti mcu

[worstloki]

AU where Loki doesn’t interfere with Thor’s banishment at all and it takes Thor years to prove himself worthy and when he returns to Asgard everything is just. The same. Nothing seems to have changed at all and everyone greets him like his absence was a minor obstacle that didn’t fundamentally change Thor and the worst part is Loki stepped down from the place as regent without any delay and Thor can’t help but feel there’s something underlaying the way his brother looks at him now and won’t let him touch him and Thor doesn’t know what he could have missed because he doesn’t think he would have found anything wrong with the things around him and how everyone behaves if he hadn’t spent time on Earth reflecting.

#the warriors 4 not being interested in anything Thor ‘learnt’ at all #and making it clear that Thor was punished unfairly and the AllFather’s decision had been harsh #Loki saying he’s happy for Thor and Thor sees the way the smiles are forced and he sees the way Loki avoids any touch #Thor hating the way Frigga talks about Loki’s short regency and Thor’s absence like it wasn’t two whole decades or something #like she’s so grateful to have her other son back without ever addressing why he was gone #Thor just. growing during his time on earth and being much more aware of the behaviour around him #he learns to be critical and assess why people around him may act a certain way #once he realises that it’s possible for him or anyone else to be fallible and make mistakes it’s over for Asgard for him I think #Thor returns and Loki gives him the throne and everyone expects him to obviously have the throne #and Odin is sleeping and Thor isn’t comfortable with the way everyone accepts him as king regent after the banishment #Loki who either never lashed out against Jotunheim or did and it was brushed away and no one thinks about it as anything #but Loki is still deeply affected and acts the way he always would have but Thor can feel it’s not the same #he knows something is wrong and Loki won’t say anything about it and Thor doesn’t know how to bring it up #Thor sees Loki metaphorically receding into the shadows to become a nonpresence so loud Thor hears it even after returning from decades away #Thor goes to Earth and gets his priorities in order gets a new worldview learns not to take what he has for granted #and finds out he actually despised Asgard #he’s been back a week and he can’t stand it

[gloriousburden]

people getting mad and offended at the fact that some of us don’t like loki’s characterization post tdw (aka we dislike ragnarok/iw) like ok you literally approve of loki constantly being made fun of, not being taken seriously, and not having anything he’s been through the past however many years being elaborated on… as well as him making jokes (during a play he supposedly wrote) about his jotun heritage when he was literally deeply ashamed of it, and when asgard is very discriminatory to frost giants… none of us really care to hear of your thoughts on loki in the first place if you approve of that bullshit and think any of it makes any fucking sense

#loki #rant #anti taika waititi #anti thor ragnarok #thor ragnarok criticism

[confusedhummingbird]

#Marvel #MCU #MCU critical #Polls #Bruce Banner #Sharon Carter #America Chavez #Pietro Maximoff #Wanda Maximoff #Thor Odinson #Task Master #MODOK

[futilefangirl]

LONDON THOR AND DEREK LUH AS JORDAN LI IN GEN V

#genvsource #gen v #genvedit #jordan li #theboysedit #usertoph #usermargaret #london thor #chaoticroad #tvgifs #tvedit #* #i am so critical and overthink every single thing #so im just going to post this as it is before i drive myself even more crazy #yay jordan!!!! #wanted to make one more about their use of the word fuck but i didnt have it in me

[silenceinternalmonologue]

has anyone done this yet

#loki #og loki #tdw loki #anti loki series #thor ragnarok critical

[ladylaufeyson1]

Purposely looked up spoilers for Love and Thunder - If anyone else doesn’t give a shit about seeing this movie but wants to know what crap Taika concocted this time, hmu. 

#thor #love and thunder #thor spoilers #love and thunder spoilers #thor critical #anti taika waititi #i didn't think it could get worse than ragnarok lord almighty was i mistaken

[deaddee-anime-brownfanlady]

What name should we call Thor.

hmm maybe Whor or Bhore the douche. Chor or just Chris honestly, since it's feels apparent that the new Thor movie is just chris hamming it up and basically playing as just himself.

#mcu critical #thor critical #anon ask #my ask response #asks and answers #thor odinson #marvel criticism

[oreolesbian]

something fulfilling in watching two projects (stranger things, thor: love & thunder) hype up their “queer content” as if they’re doing something groundbreaking by doing the same bullshit we’ve seen w/ poorly done queer rep for ages

meanwhile projects like our flag means death, a league of their own, heartstopper, first kill, the owl house, etc. (all in the same year as the other two projects, may i add) perfectly demonstrate how behind those projects are when it comes to rep. how dumb they look for even attempting the dumb “up-for-interpretation”, token queer character shit.

showing how simple it is to, if you are marketing for a queer audience, not to treat us like shit. showing queer people in casual lights, showing our stories in multiple genres for multiple ages, showing multiple queer characters across a spectrum of identities, whether that be sexuality, gender, race, etc.

all it shows me is that i won’t settle for the bullshit queerbaiting. not anymore.

#bit of a ramble #but i feel this deeply #seeing these large queer ensemble shows popping up all in the same year makes me so happy for the content we get from here and to the future #yes i’m thinking fondly on the tlou show 🥹 #lgbtq rep #representation in media #stranger things critical #thor love and thunder #mcu critical #ofmd #a league of their own #heartstopper #first kill #the owl house

[thorarms]

Thor ragnarok sucked bc they put thor in actual gladiatorial combat and didnt put him in a little gladiator skirt and leather harness. What a waste

#back on my thor in skirts agenda #is this worth tagging as ragnarok critical? its not like a Serious Post #thor