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[bubblinelovechild]

The RWBY fandoms treatment of Adam makes me very uncomfortable

This is very long sorry I was rambling <3

There’s something really odd about the dedication RWBY fans have to hating Adam. So much so that they’ll admit the writing of the WF is racist but refuse to admit that Adam a member of the white fang also suffered from that racist writing.

There’s this weird dedication to pretending there are no problems with the choices made around Adams character and vilifying literally everyone who tries to talk about it, for the sake of continuing to blindly hate him. The fandom seems to struggle with understanding that the show is fictional and everything that happens in it is a direct choice of its writers. Y’all talk about Adam like he is a real person who has personally offended you irl. Just a huge lack of media literacy tbh.

A white man wrote a civil rights group, that he admittedly based off the black panthers, as the generic bad guys of his shitty anime knockoff and made a central theme of the show the idea that fighting against your oppression violently makes you just as bad if not worse than your oppressors. Then he mad the leader of that group a generic abusive meanie bad guy. Who essentially is what white supremacists think civil rights activist are all the way down to being the fictional equivalent of a black supremacist.

When there was backlash to this he made a knockoff Malcom X and then killed her in her only scene and made a character whose ideology is basically sit down and lick the feet of your oppressors and had the audacity to say he was based off of MLK. How the fuck do you base a character off of somebody without doing basic research on them because contrary to what people seem to believe MLK was not a doormat and this is a conversation for a different day but I’m sick and tired of his memory being weaponised against black people.

What’s worse is that Adam is the only character portrayed as actually doing something to fight racism. Ghira’s faction is only ever seen fighting against other groups. I don’t know if y’all know this but that’s not how the civil rights movement worked. Most of the leaders didn’t agree on methods but they coexisted because the main goal was the liberation of black people and they knew they had to coexist. MLK did not go around calling the cops on revolutionaries he disagreed with.

The problems with Adam and the WF are not separate and cannot be. Most of what’s wrong with the Faunus plot line is the way the show handles Adam. The choices made with his writing cannot be separated from those they made with the WF overall. Adams choice to kill his attackers to keep himself and other Faunus safe, from people literally trying to kill them, is treated the way it is because of the stance they took with WFs writing. When Adam kills a human supremacist trying to kill Ghira you’re supposed to see it as an extreme and the beginning of his turn to evil. Adam isn’t a real person every descisiom he makes is informed by the white writers of the show. Why would the bias they displayed writing the WF not apply to him?

Some of you have been abused and relate to Blake in that sense, a lot of you seem to be projecting your abusers onto Adam. I’m sorry you went through that but you are not excused from buying into racist rhetoric. It’s incredibly uncomfortable as a black person to watch people talk about how “healing” it was for them to watch a civil rights leader admittedly inspired by black people slapped around and killed by two white women. It is anger inducing to watch fans celebrate “queer representation” dancing on the corpse of a monumental disrespect to black people and our history.

RWBY doesn’t even handle abuse well tbh and most of the queer rep is not that great, there are many shows that do it so much better, there is actually no excuse for hanging on to the black people are bad for fighting against racism show.

#before you start no i don’t give a shit about bumblebee #this really isn’t about them #i wouldn’t have had a problem of killing the civil rights leader wasn’t treated as a bee moment #this is probably the only post I’ll make on that show #im going back to strictly reblogs #let’s hope this doesn’t get me death threats #rwde

[unofficialadamtaurus]

speaking of intersectionality with discrimination: it frustrates me how the larger fandom doesnt seem to acknowledge that not all representation within the show was created equal. sure, we have a canon same-sex couple of our main girls, at the cost of killing off the WF plotline with adam rebranded as an abuser because giving him an actual character made the white writers too uncomfortable. the vague idea of RWBY representation is "good" for queer rep, yet they have the wetfart that is the WF

It’s absolutely frustrating to feel like praise for one kind of representation drowns out critiques of another or, on a similar note, critique for one is somehow critiquing every bit of rep in the show.

You can scream from the header of your blog that you like the bees, but if someone sees you criticizing the WF, suddenly all that praise is cast into doubt. Which is, I have to make clear, absurd.

And just from a meta perspective…throwing the faunus plotline under the bees romance subplot bus was bad. You’d be hard pressed to more effectively pit two groups of marginalized fans against each other in this show.

#anon #unofficial adam answers #rwde

[thatbeluga]

Happy Pride Month from some of my characters!

Foreground left-right:

Miles Alma, Bisexual. Appears in all 6 Water and Fire, with a main role in 3, and a supporting role in 1.

Frank Smith, Bisexual. Appears in WF 3,4,5,6, with supporting role in 3 and 6 and main role in 5. (he and Miles are boyfriends)

Kiefer Alma, Asexual. Appears as a main role in all 6 Water and Fire books. Possible aro, he's still figuring it out.

EzraIsKing "Ezra", Gay. Main role in msged

Chaser21 "Chase", Bisexual. Main role in msged. He and Chase meet online as "online practice boyfriends," later becoming an IRL couple as adults.

Simon, Gay. Appears in WF 1, 3, and 6, with a supporting role in 1 and 6. Has a boyfriend.

Background left-right

Alherba, Gay. Mentioned in WF 1-5, appears in 6. He had a tragic love story with a man.

Luveil, Lesbian. Main role in an upcoming book! A dragon-riding general with a nonbinary fiancé

Bekra, Gay. Main role in an upcoming book! Goes on a quest after his fiancé goes missing on a dangerous expedition.

Samson Alma, Questioning/Unlabled. Main POV character in all 6 WF. He's in love with the same girl for most of the series, but has experimented with/been attracted towards men as well.

Other LGBT characters, not pictured (some not fully written yet, but they do exist and I'm excited to share them some day!)

Paiqua, gay. Simon's boyfriend, appears in WF 6

Andromeda, asexual/heteromantic. She appears in WF 3-6, but her sexuality is not discussed. I have ideas for prequels that would explore this.

Ke'ako, bisexual and genderqueer. He appears in WF 4, 5, and 6, but his sexuality/gender identity are not discussed. I have ideas for prequels that would explore this.

Other (possible) WF prequel queer characters include Storm Kingdom husbands Ka-tam Kuani and Ak-ta Sorel, Thika, MTF trans, first queen of Tarchenglass.

Kathir and Amun are other queer characters in the upcoming book.

#water and fire #msged #my art #pride #pride art #my ocs #oc #original characters #writing #my writing #lgbt characters #lgbt media #books #self-published #pride month #gay #bisexual #asexual #lesbian

[blake-wukong]

Forgive me for this long ask but the glaring problem is that bb could've worked if it was Yang who got all of Sun's interactions with Blake from v4-5. But CRWBY insisted that RWBY split up and so put Sun with Blake cause he was the closest to her out of her team. But by doing this Sun was crucial to Blake's development and they grew even closer together. Sun fighting with and almost dying for Blake in her struggle against WF. Also a cliche meet the parents with the approving mom and disapproving dad and clearly having a crush on her. CRWBY were being stupid and petty by pretending all that development can be dismissed with a few forced lines in V6 that downplayed Sun's own feelings (saving Blake from having to reject him herself). Sun did most of the work actually pursuing Blake romantically but gets nothing but a cheek kiss and is totally removed from Blake's mind for 4 volumes without a single thought or reference for the boy who travelled with her for months on her journey and helped her at every turn even at great risk to himself. Whereas Yang and Blake had only a few scenes that were ambiguous in v1-3, in addition to Blake openly distrusting Yang for "breaking" Mercury's leg, before abandoning Yang after her arm was cut off. Leaving Yang in an awful condition in which Yang stewed in depression and anger against Blake for leaving without notice. Eventually reuniting by accident with her team when they all happened to be at Haven. Yet they were able to recover their damaged friendship and upgrade it to a romance with infatuation and lovey dovey affection within one volume. Despite Blake and Yang never being their for each other's respective arcs, with the sole exception of Adam's death binding this overrated pandering ship together. Facts.

I think the thing that really REALLY pisses me off that is people will say BB was set up since V1 or 2 because “queer women interact differently.”

NO THE FUCK THEY DO NOT.

If Yang was already established to be a flirtatious person, what stopped her from flirting with Coco or Blake if she was really into her? This idea that queer women act differently only applies if the characters are queer coded & queer coding was a form of writing creators would use to explore a gay relationships without receiving a shit ton of backlash.

What real reason did CRWBY had to hide their intentions for a pairing that was “planned from the beginning?”

RT at the time wasn’t owned by a major company & didn’t have any reason to hide or censor their shit. For a show that claims to be progressive, why can’t the queer women in your show explicit state their sexuality & be openly flirtatious like the men or the way Yang was back in earlier volumes? The only thing she ever said that could also easily be passed off as something friends say all the time (because they have) was her “I love it when you’re feisty.” And since those types of remarks never continued, it was clear as day it was a compliment & not a flirty remark.

#rwde #rwby #asks #anonymous #yang xiao long

[the-gremlin-siblings]

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Let's start with mod intro :3 Fragment, ly/lye/lyr/lyrs/lyrself, aroaceapl and that's it I think

This will be mainly a blog for me to show the insanity my OCs, The Gremlin Siblings, are subjected to. I might talk about other stuff but I'll make sure it won't stray too far from the topic of this blog dw :3

Tags are: #mod.talk, #operator.talk, & #drifter.talk: pretty self explanatory, it's to mark who's speaking on a post #gremlin.reblog: the reblog tag #mod.talk.enst: a variation of mod.talk but for, uhm, Enstars. Because I need to talk about Enst characters in WF AU. #lore.fragment: where I actually sit down and make lore about my traumatised children Will add more tags to the list as I use more

Info about stuff related to my OCs and why the fuck they are the way they are below the cut

My OCs are uhm, sort of in an "AU but barely an AU" where I twist the rule about the Void and Eternalism and how warframes work just a little - Operator and Drifter can coexist in the same space as long as they're close enough to the Void so expect a lot of, shenanigans. - Oh yeah, some frames are sentient enough, some. Expect sentient frames shenanigans. Scuffed post elaborating on it on the link below

Also sorry I haven't came up with any name for them so they will be called The Gremlins for now They don't really have any pronoun or gender. They don't really care. I primarily use they/them for them out of habit

Will add more I'm just bored and did this on a whim

@salute-desire is my gen and fandom blog

#mod.talk #operator.talk #drifter.talk #gremlin.reblog #mod.talk.enst #lore.fragment #<- I tried linking them on the text but I can't figure it out so I put them here instead

[tchallasbabymama]

Heyy btw without spoilers... on the scale of 1-10 what was the queer rep in WF like in your opinion

So that’s hard to rate on a scale for me. It was there, and it was mentioned in such a way that it was normalized and not really focused on (but those of us who know the comic characters saw it coming before they explicitly said anything) ahhh idk I can’t give it a number but it definitely made me squeal.

#slide up in my ask box #ask cece

[ayoalex]

Because I'm seeing people talking about Adam again I'm going to give my 2 cents.

First of all I'm queer and latine/x, so I will be using examples from my communities.

Adam is exactly like all these supposedly "we fight for everyone justice!" Latinos are.

White Latinos being "we need representation!!" And then they are racist.

Gay man being "what about us?" And are misogynistic and trans phobic.

Adam represents that.

Adam represents that marginalized man that is abusive to his ex and 100% misogynistic.

Because they exist.

Because Black Woman has been telling us, because Asian Woman constantly talk about it, and a really large and big etc.

Just because someone forms part of a minority group it does not mean they can not be assholes.

And Adam as a character would be bad and awfully racist if it wasn't cuz we have a bunch of Faunus characters in the show that do what Adam doesn't.

The Belladonnas, Sun, Velvet, Illia, Sienna, MARROW.

I think it's quite interesting how people point out Adam as the reason why the White Fang plot is bad when in fact he is the perfect example of a white man in a minority group being an asshole and taking advantage of that group.

And see how they hold on the white man while the poc Faunus that I mentioned are usually ignored.

Yes, Adam is a Faunus that experience systematic racism and he's still an abuser, both can co exist.

White Fang plot is their weakest plot but it's narrative wise not character wise.

The gave us good examples of racialized people that take advantage of good activism to commit terrorism as well of characters that are activists and constantly fighting for their rights.

Sienna is never actually paint in bad light and the entire story revolves about Adam using WF for his own purpose. Blake taking back the WF to its roots was endearing and really good because it wasn't just her but the entire island of Menagerie taking back what's theirs.

#rwby #adam taurus #blake belladonna #sometimes i do not agree with narrative choices #but that doesn't mean its bad writing #if you are going to criticize a piece of media be unbias #there's a lot of the wf plot that lacked but not adam and certainly not blake #this plot was needed for blake character development #as well to tie up certain lore plots of remnant

[amozon28]

I mean mlm wanting mlm rep and talking specifically about how the show treats gay aka mlm characters? Yeah wlw rep doesn't = mlm rep. Same as how white woman rep doesn't equal black male rep. I'm dfab nb black bisexual and I don't jive with any of the queer rep in the show honestly. All the current queer rep is white/light skinned. Illia is close but as many other poc fans have pointed out the WF plot is super racist when we met her she was basically a terrorist and tried to kill Blake's parents

I'm glad she didn't and they went a different route with her but that first impression soured the character for me. Also like Illia is way to young for me of all the queer rep in the show May and FG are the closest for me to connect to and yeah what ever you feel about the writing in the show the way the authors handled the fallout does not give me any real faith in them to handle queer characters. May is wonderful but I suspect that is connected to the voice actress's presence and influence.

i just want to start that it took my 20 mins of racking my brain trying to figure out which rwby post this was about. i post a lot of rwby so next time pls reference the specific post. im going to guess (???) its this one

im going to break down this post into different points for clarity sake

how the show treats gay aka mlm characters?

except it doesnt because there ARE NO canon mlm characters or ships in the show. theres a lot of FANON mlm ships, and theres fanon headcanons about mlm characters but as of v8e7 there are no canon gay male characters in the show. therefore there IS NO mistreatment of mlm ships by the show to date. Clover dying and fair game shippers being upset isnt queer baiting or even a bury your gay trope because Clover isnt canonically gay. that was the point of the original post

there is an argument to be had that rwby needs to include mlm representation. this is a fair and accurate criticism, one i have myself. but criticizing rwby for “how it treats mlm characters” is a fictional arguement. 

im not going to argue about the showing needing more nonwhite rep, how you dont relate to illia, and how te handling of the WF was racist. all these things are true and valid. both miles and kerry have talked about how having two white 20 yearolds writing racism allegories prob wasnt a good idea. 

of all the queer rep in the show May and FG are the closest for me to connect to and yeah what ever you feel about the writing in the show the way the authors handled the fallout does not give me any real faith in them to handle queer characters. 

you only mention illia, who is an ex terrorist (so is blake btw) who has reappeared in v8 and is most likely going to come back again based on gira phoning her in that scene,  and May. but you have forgotten about jaunes sister who is happyily married to a dark skinned woman, both were integral to the plot is v6 and have reappeared in v8. there is also the ongoing slowburn of bumblebee which has been acknowledged within the text of the show and by other characters that they are infact a thing. i think thats pretty good handling of queer characters being happy and good. also May’s va as been a rt staffer since 2013 and has worked on rwby for a long time, she isnt a new hirer to voice May so i dont think her influence should just be dismissed as a side thing and not an intentional thing done by rt. 

thats A LOT of good handling of queer characters by rwby to all by thrown away because FG wasnt canon and one of the characters died. 

personally i ship FG as well. i still to this day cannot watch clovers death and qrows cries because it upsets me so much. i remember watching that episode and having a bitter taste in my mouth that my fanon ship inadvertaintly became a bury your gays trope. fanonly, not canonly. 

so yeah, the op and i are annoyed that a good chunk of FG shippers are criticizing rwby for something they didnt even do, when they actually have a really good track record with writing lgbt characaters. theres is still A LOT of room for improvement and i will hold them accountable to any misteps but bashing them for fg is frankly a bit stupid. 

edit: scarlet from sun is gay but hes so minor i dont think it even counts so i didnt include it in arguement but im including here incase anyone comes after me for not including him or whatever

#theres also a president for fandoms to gush over fanon queer ships and overlook canon queer woman. birds of prey is an excellent example of #rwby commentary #Anonymous

[sachi-the-cat]

So the latest episode of RWBY finally revealed an LGBT+ character, Ilia Amitolia, and honestly, I have mixed feelings. I’m putting them under a read more because this is a long post.

On one side, sure, we finally have a confirmed queer character. And for that I’m happy, but on the other side, I’m a little... apprehensive? Sure, don’t get me wrong, I really like Ilia, and am glad that she’s the first one confirmed, because honestly I like how it ties into her arc, and it adds an interesting layer to her character (a chameleon faunus who’s last name means rainbow, who passes as human? Should have been obvious), but honestly I’m irritated because she’s a villian who has been ordered to kidnap Blake and bring her to her abusive ex, and for our first confirmed queer character, and as a queer person, it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.

Though honestly, the parallels between Ilia and Yang brought up in this episode give me hope that one of the other LGBT+ characters is gonna be Yang, cause well, looking at their similarities between the two, it makes a lot of sense.

First: Both Yang and Ilia have something about their physical appearance change with their emotions. With Yang, it’s her eyes which go red when she’s angry, and with Ilia, it’s her body. These both could be tied to their semblances as well, Yang’s more than Ilia’s, but I digress.

Second: Both have opened up to Blake about something rather personal on screen. With Yang, she told Blake about her Raven, and her search for her, when convincing Blake that she should slow down, and take a break back in volume 2. With Ilia, it was the story about her life in Mantle/Atlas. How she got into a fancy school their because she passes as human, but couldn’t live as herself because it could become dangerous for her there, only to reveal herself as a faunus when her parents died in a mining accident, and she turned blue from the sorrow. Both clearly have ties to Blake, and (at least in the past) trusted her a lot.

Third: Both of them hold complicated feelings/a bit of resentment towards Blake for leaving them. Yang’s upset at Blake because she ran (again), leaving her at her weakest moment, and given her abandonment issues, this leads to a lot of complicated emotions and a bit of resentment towards her, obvious from this episode. Ilia’s in a similar boat, only she’s in love with Blake, and wanted her to look at her the same way she looked at Adam. So she’s jealous that Blake and Adam were a thing, and obviously mad at Blake for leaving the WF, so they’ve got that in common as well.

There are also some design similarities, but I won’t go into that. Hopefully I’m right, and these parallels actually matter more than they could seem at first, cause I think it could be extremely interesting. Plus, Yang’s my favourite and I really relate to her a lot, so having her also be queer would mean a lot.

#RWDE #RWBY spoilers #This'll come back to haunt me someday

[marriedthedark]

Do you give your two cents on comparing shipping parties? If not, disregard my ask. If so, I will continue. I have been in the BB community and it used to be happy until different factions have formed and BB shippers started blocking each other due to different opinions like some have given up on it being canon while others still hope they would still become canon. After the Arryn twitter incident about BMBLB, that's my cue to change sides I guess. (1)

Because that’s when people are harassing the poor VA and now DEMANDING the ship to be canon. As much as I hate BS, I tried hanging out in their community for a change to see their views on the matter. Even if their community is small, they are united and they actually voice positive stuff about the incident. They are violent as heck but they aren’t toxic. They are actually friendly if you get to know them. They’re frank and open. I feel much more peace with them. What are your thoughts about the two parties?

Sorry this is probably way longer than you would’ve wanted.

In my eyes the biggest difference between the BS and the BB fandoms is the treatment of each ship’s “rivals” within the shipping communities aka how Sun is treated in the BB community versus how Yang is treated in the BS community. In every shipping community I’ve seen in r\/\/by I’ve never seen any specific character collectively hated and shit on to the same extent that I’ve seen Sun hated in the BB community. It’s one thing to criticize the way he is written (and there are MANY valid criticisms to be made) and a completely different thing to bitch and scream every time he looks in Blake’s general direction. The way Sun’s character is completely villianized whenever he does anything that may be even slightly problematic while Yang can literally do the exact same thing and nobody gives a shit is by far my biggest frustration with the BB fanbase.

For example, when Sun asked RWY if Blake was being “Blakey” in V2 I saw (and still see) BB shippers claiming this is proof that Sun is “selfish” and “disregards” Blake’s problems and mental health. Meanwhile a few episodes earlier when Weiss called Blake out on her being “quiet antisocial and moody” and Yang just shrugged it off with a “Uh, have you met Blake?” nobody gave a shit about that. Or when Sun followed Blake to make sure she didn’t try taking on the WF alone many BB shippers said that it was “not respecting boundaries which is horrible to do to an abuse victim” which is a completely valid point. But when Yang raises her voice at Blake and shoves her against a desk when she’s too weak to properly defend herself that’s apparently fine to do to an abuse victim. This isn’t about trying to make Yang out to be a malicious chracter (because she isn’t), but it’s pointing out the huge double standards a lot of BB shippers have towards her compared to Sun.

BB shippers at their worst want Sun (and in some cases his entire team) dead every time he interacts with Blake which is super hypocritical considering the fact that they’ll parade the “We want representation!!1!” card around trying to pass off their desires as being more noble than others yet in the same breath they’ll turn around and wish that one of the few relevant sources of PoC representation in the show is killed off. BS shippers at their worse are indifferent towards Yang and she will never be treated with the same disdain as Sun in the BB community.

Besides the constant demonization of Sun, the overwhelming entitlement complex that a lot of BB shippers seem to have is also very irritating. Even before the whole bmblb fiasco many of the shippers acted as if the crwby was obligated to make BB canon because they have the most fans and it pisses me off to no end how that behavior still continues. YOU. DON’T. DECIDE. WHAT. HAPPENS. IN. THE. SHOW. This is by no means specific to BB shippers as fandom entitlement is extremely prevalent throughout this website, but BB shippers are the only shipping fanbase I’ve seen within the r\/\/by fandom who have this complex to such a large extent. Somehow RT saying “Yes there will be at least one gay character” got translated over to “Yes Blake and Yang will be romantically canon” and as such many shippers feel the only valid source of LGBT+ representation the show can have is through BB becoming canon which is a huge middle finger towards any mlm, trans, ace, non-binary. ect. fan hoping they’ll get to see themselves in the show. Hell, a different team r\/\/by ship could happen down the line like FB or LB or one of the girls could be confirmed queer without having her get into a relationship and these bastards would still complain because apparently LGBT+ representation isn’t valid unless it involves their favorite ships/characters becoming canon.

What’s worse are the shippers who try to twist being against BB as being an Attack on Gay Women™ especially when they’ve harassed Arryn, an openly bisexual woman, over BB not being confirmed (something she literally has zero control over) or how they harassed a popular wlw artist out of the fandom for daring not to ship BB (even though her otp is still a f/f ship) just to give a few examples. Or how anyone who criticizes/dislikes BB is assumed to be homophobic even if they’re fucking LGBT+ like myself. Don’t fucking act like you speak for all the wlw in the fandom when you’ve alienated/harassed many of us away from your ship to the point where some of us now consider BB a notp despite the ship itself being completely fine.

BS shippers do have issues that piss me off as well (internalized/outright homophobia from heteros who conveniently ship BS being the biggest), and I will say recently the behavior of the BS community has gotten worse, but the outright terrible behavior towards others in the fandom/the crwby is few and far between compared to what has been going on in the BB community for YEARS now. With the constant bashing of BS from BB shippers it’s no damn surprise the behavior of the BS community has gotten worse. Until I see a collective attitude in the BS tags that involve demonizing Yang as an individual character for doing anything remotely problematic while praising/ignoring when Sun does something similar and wanting Yang dead every time she interacts with Blake I’m not going to say BS shippers have sunk as low as BB shippers.

#rwde #asks #as usual if this doesn't apply to you as a shipper then there's no reason to take personal offense #for anyone about to post something about not ALL shippers

[blogkloveyoubye-blog]

Blake Belladonna is a Mary Sue

You heard me. She is a sue and I know no one wants to hear this and I’ll probably be crucified but, lets be realistic. Let me start off by clearing up that I do not hate Blake Belladonna. I don’t ship in RWBY, shocker I know. Just because she is a Mary-sue does NOT mean she can’t be revised and be a better character. With that out of the way, let’s start with what the definition of a Mary Sue actually is.

“Mary Sue is an idealized and seemingly perfect fictional character. Often, this character is recognized as an author insert or wish fulfillment. They can usually perform better at tasks than should be possible given the amount of training or experience. Sometimes, the name is reserved only for women, but more often the name is used for both genders. A male can also be referred to as a Gary Stu, but Mary Sue is used more commonly.” “Mary Sue.” Wikipedia, Wikimedia Foundation, 20 Dec. 2017, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue.

Blake is far from a self insert or her perfect. She has her flaws, however, they’re often over shadowed or diluted by Sun’s hammering in her head that she’s done nothing wrong. Now, this will seem like bashing, but in all honesty it’s not. I entered Blake into the Official Mary Sue Litmus Test three times and all the results came off as Sue. In order to be classified as a Mary Sue, the character must score 50+ points. I entered Blake three times, stayed unbiased, got revisions from 2 other people, both who know the character inside and out, and used the de-suifers to final her score and she scored 169, 130, and 65. That means she is a sue and she needs revision. Don’t believe me? Take the test for yourself and mark every appropriate check that applies to her.

Now, why do I believe Blake is a Mary Sue?

Her actions don’t have consequences, No one has anything negative to say about her EXCEPT for the villains(Adam Exclusively). WEISS has more to say about her TEAMMATE than Blake. Yang lost her arm and isn’t resentful of Blake, now you can argue that they’re really close bu that doesn’t get Yang’s arm back. Yang isn’t even angry she ran away, she’s just mildy upset. Her team finds nothing wrong with her having abandon them. Sun does nothing but gas her up and tell her she did NOTHING wrong and that she should just move on and forget what she did. This isn’t inherently an issue, however. We were lead to believe Blake was an orphan since Volume one. I was heavily shadowed that she was picked up by Adam and assimilated into the White Fang. She was retconned and now she has parents who aren’t only supportive and loving, they’re practically royalty. That draws me to the conclusion that Blake was never oppressed but rather prejudiced by humans. There is a difference. But that is yet to be seen.

Blake takes up half of the plot-line. While RWY has reunited, the story focus is shifting towards Blake, taking on the White Fang and then reuniting with her team. Meaning the battle with Salem will be put on hold until Blake’s subplot turned main-plot is concluded/resolved in some way. The focus is evolving around her. First it was Jaune, now it’s Blake. The writers don’t know how to focus on more than one character at a time. I would have reunited Blake with Ruby and Yang first, before Weiss, so her focusing on the WF integrated with traveling to find Salem. Defeat Adam, then prepare for the battle with Salem. Everything is too jumbled, but back on topic.

Now, the moment you’ve been waiting for, the romantic sub plots.

I’m sorry, your favorite bike is a sue in this aspect as well. You’ve got the Blake Harem that a lot of people find entertaining, however, I am not one of those people. Again, I don’t ship in this fandom, but this is ridiculous. Adam, Ilia, and Sun. The entire concept of this ship felt like a “love at first sight” scenario which doesn’t exist. In Volume 2, There was a canon song that came out that explicitly went into detail about how in love Sun was, but this development of feelings was…never acknowledged. As for Ilia, I would have put her in Blake’s flashbacks so it didn’t seem like she was written for the sole purpose of being a token LGBT representation. At first, it was supposed to be Adam vs Sun, a soulful battle for Blake’s heart (which, I wasn’t happy about because, Blake has the ability to choose who she loves), then you queer baited the fuck out of bumble^by shippers with subtle hints, nods, and love songs. THEN, You add Ilia into the mix, to make it awkward for Sun. MAKING EVERYONE BELIEVE SUN OR ILIA WILL DIE, BECAUSE ALL BLAKE IS GOOD FOR IS SHIPPING. These people claim to have feelings for Blake, but the reasons are unknown unless you listen to the soundtracks which I do. It makes them seem shallow and superficial as characters in the show. If you’re going to write these character falling in love, then show do not tell. Otherwise, I see it as physical attraction and you can’t prove me otherwise.

Here’s where I get mean about this character.

Blake is a co-dependent character. She cannot function without another character playing off of her or assisting her battle. Since, Volume one to this day, Blake has never once won a fight on her own. Blake either needs Yang, Sun, or Adam to fight her battles for her or help her when she physically is incapable. That is ridiculous and SCREAMS Mary Sue. It’s okay to not be able to do everything on your own, but consistently? She seems more of a damsel than a huntress. Blake’s story would be boring with or without Sun in my most honest opinion with how uninteresting she is and how she interacts with her foil, Sun.

Blake needs her own battle. The fight between Blake and Ilia was the perfect opportunity, and although Sun had his time to shine again, he wasn’t the main focus, Blake was. Ilia made Blake look weak, and if the purpose was that she couldn’t fight her friend, inner monologue would have fixed the confusion.

Blake’s design is nice and her concept for a character is a progressive step if it was written well. Blake isn’t a good character. That doesn’t mean she cannot BECOME a better character. She needs revision and to be looked at from a different angle. You can love this character for what she is, but from a story writing point of view? She’s sub par. But this is my opinion. If you read those test questions you’ll know exactly where I’m coming from. I came to the conclusion she was a Sue after watching the show and decided to test it for myself. If you wanna leave her score at 0 because you wanna feel better, that’s up to you. You’re only lying to yourself. So, if you don’t check her appropriate Sue traits and come to me with hate because you don’t like what I have to say, it only proves she’s a Sue more. If you can’t see her flaws as a badly written character then that’s not my problem so don’t make it my problem. If you have feedback or a retort, feel free to add to the conversation. Keep it respectful and I won’t block you.

#blake belladonna #rwde #kinda rwde #rwby #rwby fndm #mary sue #rwby blake #reciepts #she needs revision guys #im sorry

[unofficialadamtaurus]

i dont agree with the idea that they killed Adam because of the bees. its basically something homophobes cry about again and again. in every fandom there are those people who complain about wokeness and how the writers push gays down their throat and are destroying the show because they want to make it gay. adam most likely didnt get killed off because bees and wokeness and gays. if that was the case they would have made the bees a thing in vol 6 instead of queer baiting us for years. adam Sienna and sun got killed or disappeared from the show because the writers couldnt write a proper racism storyline and are too lazy and ignorant to do so. they dont think its necessary to do so. they told a white comfort story written for racist white people by racist white people who wanted to feel like victims. thats who they cater to and thats why the predominately white fandom defends them. they didnt want to tell a story about minorities or people of color and how they suffer and get victimized by racism and racists. they wanted to tell a story about the oppressor class (or white people) and how the ‘good white people’ get victimized and hurt by the terrorist minorities. a lot of white people feel victimized when people of color say that all white people are complicit/benefit from racism. they get defensive and feel like this is an attack. ‘so you are saying that ALL white people are racist? you are saying that ALL white people are evil?’ thats what they hear and of course no one is saying that but they dont want to listen. they feel victimized and offended. so they create these far fetched impossible scenarios about how minorities hate them actually and want them dead actually and are not fighting for equality actually but are fighting for dominance actually. a lot of racists or misogynists or homophobes have this persecution complex where they push the idea that they are the oppressed class, getting ‘cancelled’ and ‘attacked’ and ‘abused’ by the evil racist heterophobic minorities. they tell stories of how ‘black lives matter is a terrorist organization! SHOCKING discoveries!’ ‘How the #MeToo movement targets and destroys men! How feminazis want us dead!’ ‘The cult of the LGBTQ community and how they want to turn us all gay! They want you erased!!’. thats exactly the WF arc in a nutshell and it’s exactly what CRWBY wanted it to convey. they just backtracked with ‘we were just ignorant’ excuse when they got backlash. i really don’t think there was a deeper motive. they literally focused more on how the faunus hurt the humans and showed us more of that rather than showing us how the humans hurt the faunus and expanding the narrative and worldbuilding regarding the racism in their world. we had an entire episode about how poor weiss became a racist because her poor family was victimized by the terrorist white fang but didnt get a single flashback of adams past or ilias past. the wf ended up the way it did because crwby are racist. adam was written and killed off the way he did because they are racist. Sienna got killed off the way she did because they are racist. other faunus got written off the story because crwby is racist and has no idea what to do with those characters now. not because of the gays or the bees or wokeness.

Pulling out this part in particular because it seems to be the crux of what's going on with the writers and their show:

they feel victimized and offended. so they create these far fetched impossible scenarios about how minorities hate them actually and want them dead actually and are not fighting for equality actually but are fighting for dominance actually

I agree with pretty much everything you've said. As I pointed out, it's genuinely impossible for us to know exactly why they made the decisions they did, but Occam's razor does encourage the idea that we stick to the simplest explanation, and that explanation is the racism we've already seen from them time and again.

We've also seen homophobia, though, and them milking the bees with merch and teasers and so on. It could easily be a "both" situation.

#anon #unofficial adam answers #rwde #long post #consciously or unconsciously they have written a story that validates racists who think minorities want to be oppressors