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sportstudfan · 5 months
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Season 3 EP 65 Dragon at the Door
My Two Dads
Sometimes you just have to make a life, from what life hands you.
This is Laramie 2.0. Originally, the boy character was Slim's younger brother Andy. Then Andy inexplicably disappeared.
Then Mike appearers in the cowboys life. As does an entirely new thematic approach, in season 3. Complete with a charming and dapper housekeeper named Daisy. Of course.
And even though Jess and Slim are a bonafide married couple by now. Jess still continues to cheat on Slim every time a studly, well built cowboy saddles up next to him at the bar.
Slim always takes him back though. Determined to keep the home fires burning. At all cost.
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hollywoodlady · 3 months
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Clint Eastwood on the set of the western TV series 'Rawhide' (1959 - 1965).
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mitochondriaandbunnies · 11 months
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Further thoughts about The Outcasts (1968), once again under the cut for length and discussion of 60's TV racism
I did a little digging and found out that apparently both of the lead actors spoke repeatedly about the like, moral and ethical importance of the show and that that they both felt it was really something they both had to do-- I think everything I read confirmed my suspicions that the show was absolutely made with the best intentions, and it's just a question of whether it managed to meet those intentions with fidelity.
Otis Young talked about how there really was nothing else on TV that wasn't racist and yet addressed racism with honesty (versus just "let's all just hold hands and get along" or ignoring the lived experience of Black characters), and the man named one of his sons after his character from the show. He talked about how he was allowed to be angry without ever being an "angry Black man" stereotype, and that that's part of why he was hired-- other actors who auditioned pulled their punches with regards to the anger and hurt a former slave would carry.
Don Murray talked about how Jemal was a necessary and important role model for American children of all races, and fought the network over the so-called cancellation due to "violence," stating straight out that the show was cancelled for its themes. His character's racism gets called out and his growth is halting and sometimes painful, and Murray thought it was an important enough role that he left film-making to work on TV again, something that was considered a career-killer.
Both of them asked for script changes to make their dialogue both more realistic and to avoid casual racism, and got them. Apocryphally, a network executive admitted that the show was canned because it was "too angry--" and frankly, thinking of in the historical context of both westerns (this was only 2 years after The Good the Bad and the Ugly-- deconstruction of the Good Cowboy myth hadn't totally penetrated TV yet-- and both Jemal and Corey are occasional killers constantly at odds with the law) and in the context of TV in general (the call to reduce violence post RFK assassination), it makes a lot of sense.
The extent to which this context makes the overall premise and Corey as a character palatable (or even tolerable) to you fully and completely influences the extent to which it's a recommendable watch. I think if Corey had a different background, I'd actually be shouting its praises to the rooftop-- with each passing episode I'm more impressed by the writing and direction and the show's willingness to directly address how the history of the United States is built on racism. And I get it, to some extent, why they decided to go for the "most extreme" possible foil for Jemal, but it's a lot to ask of your audience to swallow a man who owned people as one of your heroic leads. Again, knowing that the actors thought this was the right choice for unapologetically addressing racism softens it a little, but doesn't fully absolve that writing choice. (Especially as Jemal and Corey are clearly starting to genuinely care about one another-- I can buy Corey realizing he was wrong and learning how to be a better and less racist person via friendship, but it's a little harder to puzzle out an in-universe reason why Jemal is like 'my good buddy, the guy who four years ago would've have thought of me as property.' If you can suspend your disbelief/accept the 60's optimism about everyone's ability to unilaterally forgive and grow, their growing friendship is actually quite well done-- the actors play their burgeoning trust, false starts, lingering resentment, and reluctant but genuine enjoyment of one another's company well. It's... a lot.)
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glennk56 · 19 days
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Tom Bosley before Happy Days (1 of 2) (1959-1972)
Tom Bosley's big break came when he landed the lead role in the Broadway Musical Fiorello! in 1959 about the Mayor of NYC from 1934-1946 and winning the Tony Award for his portrayal.
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Tom Bosley as Fiorello La Guardia on Broadway in 1959.
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Tom Bosley as Teddy in a TV Movie version of Arsenic and Old Lace in 1962 which starred Tony Randall and even included Boris Karloff.
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Tom Bosley in an episode of Car 54, Where Are You? as a counterfeiter posing as a Preacher boarding with the Toodys not realizing Toody is a policeman.
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Tom Bosley appeared in an episode of Naked City in 1963 as a judge hearing case of spousal physical abuse.
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Tom Bosley as an executive in an episode of Route 66 in 1963.
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Tom Bosley in his first theatrical movie Love with the Proper Stranger in 1963 with superstars Natalie Wood and Steve McQueen as an awkward, nervous date of Natalie Wood. Tom was 35 years old at filming.
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Four months later in 1964, Tom Bosley appeared in The World of Harry Orient as the father of one of the girls tormenting Harry Orient played by Peter Sellers. Bosley's wife was played by Angela Lansbury.
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Tom Bosley was in the first episode of Jericho in 1966, a WWII show about a team of Allied members working behind the lines as sabateurs and intellegence agents. Bosley, a civilian radar expert is called into duty, but his lack of confidence and bravery threaten the mission. This show lasted only 16 episodes. But the picture quality is very good. Other shows Tom Bosley guested on during this time were Ben Casey, Dr. Kildare, Ther Defenders and The Girl from UNCLE.
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Tom Bosley's next movie role was in 1967, Divorce American Style starring Dick Van Dyke and Debbie Reynolds. Tom played newly divorced Debbie Reynolds first date where she learns how vast the extended families of multiple divorcees can be.
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Bosley's next film was a spaghetti western, Bang Bang Kid in 1967. In the late 60's many American actors did at least one.
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Tom Bosley's next movie was The Secret War of Harry Frigg starring Steve McQueen in 1968, playing one of the Generals taken as Prisoners of War. This was his first, maybe only shirtless scene as far as I know.
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In early 1968, Tom Bosley was in an episode of The F.B.I. as a criminal suspect.
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tornrose24 · 8 months
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This is probably going to be the last update to this AU for a month or so since I will need a break from it to work on other stuff (with maybe an exception for a Halloween related drawing).
Also, I think since I never named them yet, Suzie's friend is named 'Jules.'
Lily, Suzie, Nate, Jules, and all the puppeteers are mine.
Oh, and since I wasn't able to, here's more info on the pupeteers:
-George Donovan–a comedian and voice actor. Known for doing a few comedic guest roles on TV shows in the 50’s and 60’s. Was known to have two sons. Was supposed to do a few voice roles for Hanna-Barbera in addition to working for Playfellow Workshop. Was known to be allergic to chocolate.
-Elizabeth Callister– an LA stage actress known for doing voice roles in a few cartoons. Daughter of a well-known producer, which allowed her to enter the ranks of the entertainment industry. Said to be ‘spoiled sweet’ and was hoping to entertain children. Was said to show small signs of what might have been ADHD.
–Stanley Hersh– a stage actor from New York. Son of Jewish-Polish immigrants who came to America in the early 1930s. Was said to continue his family’s store if he wouldn’t be able to make it into show business. It is believed Welcome Home would have been his biggest break prior to his disappearance.
–Zelda duPont– a singer and stage actress. Was involved with a few civil rights movements under a different name along the East coast. It is presumed that she was hired as a puppeteer because ‘no one is supposed to see who is playing them.’
-Louise Sherman–a well-known trans actress from the 60’s, yet was better known in the LGBTQ community as opposed to a wider audience. Supposedly a friend of Welcome Home’s creator. Spent a few years abroad in England and had been involved with a few Shakespeare plays.
-Travis McCoy–an actor from Texas. Had starred in a few Westerns and Romantic-Comedy projects. Was said to be very popular with his female fans due to his charm and good looks, but was never seen dating anyone up until his disappearance.
-Bertrand Parsons–a New England and New York stage actor also known for doing voice roles. Was also well-known in the LGBTQ community, yet this was kept silent from the main public for many decades. It is believed by some that his name is in fact a stage name.
–Walter Jones–Little is known about him, but he was a puppeteer for a few shows. Was said to be good friends with Welcome Home’s creator (and some suspected that the two might have been more than friends). It is believed Welcome Home would have been his big break given that he was to voice the main star of the show. He was given a draft card just before the show aired, and it is believed that he–like many other young men–escaped to Canada to avoid the draft.
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ohsalome · 8 months
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During his Monday appearance on 60 Minutes, State Duma member Andrey Gurulyov declared that “Today, the whole world is a special military operation!” Throughout the segment, the lawmaker and other panelists claimed that Russia is not interested in peace accords—a view that is frequently echoed on many pro-government TV and radio programs.
Referring to recent comments by General Mark Milley—the U.S.’s highest-ranking military officer, who recently suggested that a peace deal might be one of the ways of ending Russia’s invasion of Ukraine—Korotchenko stressed: “General Milley included diplomacy as one of the options, meaning the signing of a peace deal on conditions that are not acceptable to Russia: return to the borders of 1991 and reparations that will have to be paid by generations of Russians to the Kyiv regime. Would this option suit us? I think not.”
Instead, according to the Putin loyalists, the Kremlin intends to expand its horizons far beyond Ukraine, undermining and confronting the West at every turn. Gurulyov laid out what he sees as the Kremlin’s potential course of action—not just in Ukraine, but across the world.
“Of course, North Korea’s goal is the unification with South Korea and the disappearance of the border that separates one people. People ask, ‘What if they lose? What is our part in this situation?’ For us, it’s not acceptable for the North Koreans to lose. Otherwise, NATO forces will be stationed across from our Vladivostok!” he said. “For us, there is no other option but to get prepared for the challenges that are happening in the Asia-Pacific region. These challenges are already happening, we should be preparing today, right now and figuring out how to solve this problem!”
During his appearance, the lawmaker claimed that Russia’s Pacific Fleet is “actively preparing” for such a conflict—and predicted that the “the first strike will be against the oldest enemy of Koreans, Japan, accompanied by supportive hooting from South Korea.”
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On Tuesday, Marina Kim, one of the hosts of Russia’s Channel 1, appeared on Vladimir Solovyov’s show Full Contact, where she talked about her role in the soon to be released TV project, The New World. Kim said it would be aimed at forecasting what the new world order will look like in the coming decades, considering Russia’ efforts to undermine the U.S. dollar as a currency and Western influence as a whole. Arguing that Russian experts are so highly intellectual that they know more about China than the Chinese, Kim noted that even those superb intellectuals are not sure what the map of the world will look like in 2073.
Solovyov, who frequently threatens the West with nuclear strikes, asked an uncharacteristically sobering question: “Will Russia even exist in the future?” Kim cheerfully assured him that Russia’s destiny is to keep leading the world—but acknowledged that it can do so only in concert with China.
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thenugking · 2 years
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Hey so, as a PSA to the Doctor Who fandom (and Everyone, but it’s understandably coming up in the Doctor Who fandom right now with the C*lestial Toymaker potentially coming back):
C*lestial is a slur.
It’s fallen out of use as a slur now, so I don’t blame anyone for not knowing this, but it used to be a slur used in the western world against Chinese people for coming from a “““strange””” and “““mysterious””” far off land. Yes, it’s now used to mean heavenly/from space, but back in the 60′s, when they dressed the Toymaker as a Mandarin and part of his threat came from how strange and unknown he was... they were using this as a slur.
I love the Toymaker, and I’m delighted that we might be getting him back in TV Who, but I feel like we’ve really got to drop C*lestial from the name. I want to get this out here in advance, because if the Toymaker is really back, the name has the potential to blow up a lot. I know it’s not meant with those connotations, because the majority of people have never even heard it used as a slur, but if you look at the history around it, it’s uncomfortable, and it might be nice if people could stop using it in this context.
tl;dr C*lestial is an old slur for the Chinese, and was used as a slur in the Toymaker’s title, and I feel we need to drop that part of the name just as much as the mandarin costume.
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mywifeleftme · 6 months
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211: Erkin Koray // Arap Saçı
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Arap Saçı Erkin Koray 2021, Pharaway Sounds
Pharaway Sounds’ Arap Saçı (Arab Hair) collects 24 Erkin Koray tracks originally issued as singles between 1968 and 1976. Koray is best known in the West for his groundbreaking fusion of Anatolian/Arabic folk and classical with crunching psychedelic rock on his 1974 debut LP Elektronik Türküler. However, as Angela Sawyer’s tart liner notes observe, Turkey was predominantly a singles market at the time, and back home Koray did most of his damage on 7”. The limitations of the format, and the preferences of Koray’s record company, preclude the kind of long-form acid voyages he undertook on Elektronik Türküler, but he's able to generate plenty of smoke on these “pop” singles.
Highlights abound. Arap Saçı kicks off with 1973’s “Mesafaler” (“Distances”), a scorching psych banger complete with cowbell that only stops rocking to periodically gawp and stare fixedly into space for 20 or 30 seconds at a time before shaking itself awake to get back to business. (Is there footage of a Turkish TV performance featuring liquid light art? You bet your hairy ass there is.)
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The waltzing, organ and hand drum-led “Komşu Kızı” (“Girl Nextdoor”) is a classic melancholy Middle Eastern ballad that hides a wild, surprising drop two-thirds of the way through; Koray freaks “Aşka İnanmıyorum” (“I Do Not Believe in Love”) with his insinuating croon and serpentine guitar licks; “Istemem” (“I Do Not Want”) mixes a light-stepping folk beat with some stinging solos that aren’t too far off what Uli Jon Roth would get up to in Germany with Scorpions a few years later. There really isn’t a bum track to be found.
This new compilation covers much of the same ground as the ‘70s Erkin Koray (AKA Mesafaler) and Erkin Koray 2 (AKA Şaşkın) singles compilations, and Pharaway Sounds opts to follow their track sequencing as closely as possible—a good choice, as they had a great flow, though a bit frustrating for those hoping to track Koray’s musical development chronologically. Regardless, we know that Koray was exposed to Western music as a young age, learning Occidental classical music on the piano as a child and discovering rock ‘n’ roll as a teen. According to the liners, Koray was performing songs by Elvis, Fats Domino, and Jerry Lee Lewis in the late ‘50s, and by the late ‘60s, when he began to emerge as a recording artist, he’d clearly imbibed industrial quantities of Hendrix, Cream, and the other usual psychonauts.
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In a previous review, I briefly contrasted Koray with Egypt’s Omar Khorshid, a fellow guitar god and contemporary pioneer in electrified Arabic music. Khorshid had some familiarity with Western pop music, but he was working with the top stars in Arab folk and classical, using electric instruments to push traditional Eastern music forward rather than to fuse it with rock. Koray on the other hand was a long-haired freak who claims to have fought in the streets with a knife and joined Anglo-American-inspired combos with names like Mustard (Hardal) and Sweat (Ter). By the late ‘60s rock had become popular in Turkey, as had Arabesk music, which Sawyer describes as “a purposely uncouth… appropriation of Arabic pop and folk, popular with rural or marginalized folks who were suddenly encountering pockets of urbanized Europe in their backyard.” Koray intuitively crossbred the invasive genre (rock) with the reactionary one (Arabesk) and found himself one of the fathers of a powerful new mongrel breed of psych music.
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By reissuing both Elektronik Türküler and these essential singles, Pharaway Sounds has done a real service to psych and non-Western rock aficionados. Koray makes a great gateway to the other masters of ‘70s Anatolian folk-rock, including Selda, Moğollar, and Barış Manço, a loose affiliation of artists that has been one of my most prized discoveries of recent years.
211/365
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gooeyyeehaw · 6 months
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Well, it's the first post, I guess
I pretty much have no idea how to use Tumblr.
To my understanding, Tumblr has run its course. Nevertheless, I guess I'm a blog writer now. I've got a lot of things on my mind just about all of the time and I'm too stubborn to keep it all in now, so here we go. Buckle up?
Here are things I will probably word-vomit about at some point, just so we're clear from the start.
Cowboys - (Historical, RDR2, Brokeback Mountain, Western movies, cowboys in general)
Pirates (More specifically Our Flag Means Death)
60's, 70's, 80's music, with some exceptions
Will Wood (And the Tapeworms)
Various movies or TV shows not previously described. I like films. (Some other films I like for reference: Donnie Darko, Pulp Fiction, Jaws, Deadpool, etc. I'd say that's a good variety.)
I'm sure other subjects will pop up from time to time, but this is basically it for now.
I might even share some art at some point, cuz I do that. Art.
I should also establish some stuff about me and this page:
My name is Newt and my pronouns are he/him. I'm trans, gay, and some mix of neurodivergent. I also have depression and anxiety. I'm also anemic if that means anything at all to anyone?
I'm a minor so don't be too freaky. Tone tags would be cool, I don't use them much myself anymore, but I appreciate them. I'm pretty cringe and I overshare. It should also be good to say I swear a bunch, make dirty jokes, and talk about mature topics at times. If anyone's not okay with anything like that, I suggest not checking this page out. I also don't tolerate any racism, homophobia, transphobia, xenophobia, ableism, misogyny, or anything else along those lines.
Anyway, thanks for reading, I don't know how active I'll be, but we'll see. My shit's all over the place so have fun.
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scotianostra · 1 year
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Happy Birthday veteran Scottish actress Phyllida Law, born on May 8th 1932 in Glasgow.
There is very little  about her early life except she was born in Glasgow, the daughter of Megsie “Meg” and William Law, a journalist. She said once of he Glasgow upbringing “When you grow up in Glasgow with a Glaswegian granny, you’re taught that pride is a wicked thing. I still feel a bit like that.“ Phyllida grew up in Glasgow’s west end, just off Great Western Road, but war broke out when she was just seven and she found herself evacuated to places such as Lenzie, in Dunbartonshire, and Skelmorlie, Ayrshire.
That gave her a love for the Scots countryside which means she now splits her life between her home in London and a family cottage in Argyll. Phyllida would fit in well with the Scottish & Proud ethos, in an interview she says:
“I’m passionate about my Scots heritage. How could I not be?  I can’t live without it. There’s no way I could live without those hills and it’s got to be the west coast. “I sometimes travel to Edinburgh then go up to Pittenweem or somewhere and I think to myself, ‘This isn’t Scotland.’ It’s a wonderful coastline but it’s not Scotland for me.
“When my parents lived in Glasgow they were always looking for a cottage to which they could retire. They found one in Ardentinney, so I visit that a lot.
She joined the Bristol Old Vic in 1952, from what I can gather she was first in the wardrobe department, the first pic shows her standing, from a 1952 photo. Heron screen acting credits start in 1958 and are very extensive, the pick of them are Dixon of Dock Green and a stint as the storyteller in the great children’s show Jackanory in the 60’s. It must have been during her time in the BBC’s children’s TV department she met her husband to be The Magic Roundabout narrator Eric Thompson, She has previously stated that the character of Ermintrude the cow was modelled on her.
Angels in the 70’s and of course Taggart in the 80’s as well Thomson, the variety series hosted by actress Emma Thompson in 1988, Emma just happens to be her daughter. Heartbeat, Hamish Macbeth and Dangerfield in the 90’s, Waking the dead and Doctors in the noughties has kept her busy, now in her 86th year she has still been appearing on the small screen, in The Other Wife and New Tricks during the past 8 years. Film roles include She is known for her work on Much Ado About Nothing , The Time Machine and The Winter Guest.
Phyllida spends most of her time in Argyll in a house she shares with her daughter Emma. who is spending more time looking after her mother, as she was diagnosed with Parkinson's Disease in 2915.
Phyllida constantly needs the support of a wheelchair and even assistance when washing due to the effect the condition is having on her.
Due to the progressive nature of the condition, symptoms tend to gradually worsen over time. It is common for individuals to struggle both with walking and talking at the height of the condition.
Phyllida herself spoke about the burdens of looking after an infirm parent, she looked after her mother, Meg who suffered with Alzheimer’s disease. Mego died in 1994 aged 93 after almost 20 years of being cared for by Ms Law at her mother's home in the village of Ardentinny on the west coast, near Dunoon.
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I don't want it to come out intrusive, but can you please share any more fragment? I'll take literally anything 💕
Not intrusive at all! I'm always happy to share💞
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“Here we are.” Pa pulled away a battered tarp revealing the tv underneath. The thing was old, probably dating back to the early 2000’s. It was big and bulky with a twenty five inch screen, and a built in VCR and DVD player.
  “How’d you even get this thing up here?” Miles asked. Pa was strong but carrying what he guessed was a 50-60 pound t.v up a mountain just to have a little extra entertainment didn’t seem like something his Pa would go to the trouble of doing. 
   “I had Brown airlift the bulk of our things up here. Saved me a hell of a lot of time that’s for sure.” Together they easily carried the t.v upstairs, positioning it on the coffee table. Pa went back downstairs to retrieve a trunk full of movies, placing the case in front of Miles to pick which one he’d like. 
   “Did you only bring westerns?” Miles gave his Pa a judgmental look.
    “No! That's just what’s on top, keep digging through it.” He wasn’t that impressed by what he found. 80’s war movies, bawdy comedies, and a few classic horror movies.
    “Can you ask my aunt or uncles to bring me some actually good movies next time they come up.”
   Pa waved him off, “What do you know? Which of these movies have you even seen?” When his son didn’t answer he wagged a finger at him, “ha! You see, you don’t know nothin’.” 
   Pa started looking through the collection of dvds and tapes muttering to himself as he searched for the perfect one to show his son. Miles watched him completely uninterested in his father’s pick.“You sure you're not hiding another trunk of movies somewhere?”
   Pa stilled, “I’ve got our old home videos in the safe in my room. Do you want to watch those?”
   Miles' breath caught. Home videos. Did that mean… “is mama in the videos?”
   Pa’s features softened, “well of course she is. Do you want to see her?” He eagerly nodded yes. They had so many tapes to choose from that Miles had a hard time choosing which one he wanted to see first. Tired of his own indecision he closed his eyes and picked one at random, holding it out to his Pa to play, without even reading the tapes title.    They got comfortable on the couch, Miles holding the popcorn bowl, Pa casually putting an arm around his shoulders as he hit play. He got a glimpse of their old house as the camera made its way into the kitchen, his mother coming into focus. Miles almost cried at the sight of her. A picture was one thing, but seeing her so vibrant and beautiful and alive was almost too much for him.
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iliadette · 1 year
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What are some reasons to actually like Spirk + Star Trek?
I'm an ORV fan but I used to watch Voyager as a kid and I've seen a one or two of the newer movies a few years back (dark something something?) I stayed away from the Star Trek fandom as an adult because I mainly associated it with racism and misogynistic nerd guys.
Hi, anon. Sorry if this ask will take a long time to appear, English is not my first language an I am bad with words on a good day.
You're probably thinking of Into Darkness. It's the second reboot movie. There's a lot of different opinions about those lmao. Personally, I love them even though they do have bad bad points, but then again, I love everything about Star Trek, even at its worst.
There's no denying that there was a bit of period-typical misogyny in the original Star Trek, and it got worse in the long run after Rick Berman was selected for production. Latent misogyny, hetero and amatonormativity, as any 60-to-90s show does. To deny that would be stupid. But.
Star Trek was one of, if not the first, tv programs to depict people of different races working together, as equal as they could get in a military-like setting, in a time when segregation and Cold War were still a thing. A Black woman, an Asian man, a Russian one, a Scottish one, all holding a major position in a government vessel, all iconic characters to this day. Censorship never let him, but Gene Roddenberry, the original creator, always intended to include queer people in ST, as I will explain better later. ‌The original series had episodes which very clearly condemned nazism, racism, the Vietnam war, genocide. The Ferengi race of the Next Generation were created to be a satire of western capitalists but were wrongly pegged as an antisemitic stereotype. If a major character is disabled, they have accomodations made for them, they don't have their disability erased, though I hear that Strange New World kind of fucked that up. An episode of TNG was in protest of conversion therapy though people didn't like how it ended. A major theme of Deep Space Nine revolves around colonialism. It had the first black protagonist (commander and later captain); the first female first officer in the franchise to have a major role, who formerly fought in a resistance movement against a the occupation of her planet by a fascist imperialist race; the first trans woman in all but designation, who btw very much kissed another woman in an absolutely iconic scene; a canonically very neurodivergent doctor. Voyager had the first female captain to star in a series. Seven of Nine's character is particularly dear to me because while it's obvious that she was added mainly to boost and entice the male audience with her sex appeal (and well, I am sapphic and far from immune), it's also obvious how much the writers and Jeri Ryan cared for her storyline and growth. She's such a complex character, I really love her. Seven-centric episodes are always a treat for me. I can't remember anything else off the top of my head, sorry abt that (I also haven't watched Enterprise and the newest series yet so I can't talk about that).
Does ST have bad moments? Misogynistic, racist, homophobic, ableist, amatonormative moments? Hell yes. Some episodes are really cringy and have very bad writing. But there are more good ones than not, and those are the ones I live for, the ones that can give you a message that stays with you, where there was somebody in the crew/cast who read the script, saw something terrible, and went "this will not pass on my watch" and worked together to fix whatever they could. I'm sorry if your experience with Star Trek was with dudebros who think "the woke of the latest series ruined the franchise".
Now, about K/S. I believe with all my heart that nobody needs a reason to ship any two or more characters together. That said, I think Spirk is one of those ships where you have to wear anti-ship goggles not to see the potential (but no big deal if you don't). They touch each other all the time, they risk their life and career multiple times to save the other. This is not inherently a sign of non platonic feelings, and they sure aren't canon as we usually mean it, but.
Writers sure had a field day sprinkling suggestive bits (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) all throughout the franchise, especially queer writers (Theodore Sturgeon, writer of Amok Time and Shore Leave, may his soul be blessed for all eternity).
Bonus for how they look at each other. (1) (2) (3) (4)
Roddenberry himself described their relationship as one of love. It's not mentioned in the series, but in the books it's revealed that they share a telepathic bond that connects their souls, which in Vulcan culture is called t'hy'la which can mean "friend, brother, lover". This definition was created specifically for the two of them, so this is a very obvious wink/nudge, if not an outright acknowledgement that "yes they're in love, but homophobia exists so this is all we can do."
In The Motion Picture when Kirk looks at Spock like a lovesick puppy after a long separation, and the simple feeling not much later.
And can anyone dare to say that those death scenes from The Wrath of Khan and Into Darkness are supposed to be platonic, or what Kirk says about Spock at the beginning of The Search for Spock, that his death feels like he lost "the noblest part of his soul"? And what about "Not in front of the Klingons"??
The books, too, have some very interesting nuance.
Sooooo yeah I absolutely think that Spirk is and will always be the one ship that best comes to mind when it comes to ST. In my eyes and in those of a lot of people they're canon in every way that matters, and if either of them had been female there would have 100% been a marriage in one of the movies, à la Riker/Troi. They'll forever be my ST otp, though I'll occasionally indulge a little bit of Spones and McSpirk. I could even like and reblog other ships like McKirk or Spuhura but only in fanart and only in moderation. I personally wouldn't be interested in reading fanfiction about those. But every ship is valid and equal in fandom, and none is superior just because it's canon and/or had a major role in the birth of shipping culture. Which is the very point all this behemoth of a post originated from, I guess.
This.... Has turned into way more than I thought. Sorry about thay. I hope my answer was satisfactory, anon. Also that I didn't bore you. Hope you have a great day, and thank you for reaching out. ❤️🖖
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nebulouscoffee · 1 year
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Kira for the ask game, because I've sewn you mentioned liking her but haven't seen you talk about it much yet and would like to enable you
Yayy thank you!! (and I'm sorry I took so long to respond, it's been a very hectic week😅)
one aspect about them i love
Kira really embodies a lot of what I miss most about Star Trek tbh, which was the real desire to make the audience uncomfortable. Don't get me wrong; there is a lot about TOS, TNG and DS9 that didn't age well- but I still think an important goal they all shared was to take certain ideas and ideologies that might've seemed far-fetched to the audience of the time, and say- "why not?" Also, "Does this character's existence- and presence- make you uncomfortable? Well, maybe that's a YOU problem." And that's a goal which (imo) really faded over the years, because they grew more and more afraid of turning off the conservative audience. But not with Kira! Within minutes of her introduction, she offers a scathing shutdown of the "frontier" that Star Trek was quite literally built upon. She is literally a sympathetic "terrorist" MAIN character (rare enough), and furthermore a woman- and that too a "difficult" woman, who refuses to let herself be ignored or compromise her people's needs for the Starfleet crew's comfort (!!!), who is ANGRY and deeply religious and nationalistic and PROACTIVE and stomps around and shouts and cries and disagrees and wears her passion on her sleeve and is not at all afraid to make a nuisance of herself- and yet, still has numerous flaws and so many moments of self-doubt and raw vulnerability. What a fantastic character! This was 1993; I can think of so few TV women from that era who actively challenged the constructs (and men) around them so much. I love everything she represents
one aspect i wish more people understood about them
That her arc is more about learning to land upon nuance; not toning down her Bajoran-isms. Her patriotism and faith do occasionally steer her the wrong way, yes- but Kira's growth doesn't at all involve her renouncing either of those things! If anything, it's Sisko who ends up having to adjust to her perspectives. In general I'm always craving more nuanced discussions re DS9's postcolonial dynamics, too- Kira has such a range of interactions with Cardassians on the show, and numerous episodes ('Destiny', 'Life Support', 'Ties of Blood and Water', etc) show that she's genuinely invested in peace between their peoples; something I think often goes ignored. Yes, she's justifiably furious about everything they did to her home- but at the end of the day, what she wants is justice and reparations for Bajor and Bajorans; and if a small (understandable) part of her does want to see Cardassia crash and burn, she really doesn't act upon it
Also, she's funny! Remember when she told Dukat the baby was O'Brien's with no further explanation? Lmaoo what a troll
one (or more) headcanon(s) i have about this character
That she only received a very basic education. She does mention finger painting and playing springball as a kid, but also- Kira grew up in a refugee camp and she joined the Shakaar cell at age 12; she probably missed out on the higher education even the average Bajoran of her generation received (which itself was likely Cardassian State-controlled). Idk, this is low key important to me because so many Star Trek characters are almost like- defined by their scientific and educational smarts, if that makes sense? It's refreshing to see a Trek character who doesn't quite make sense of herself or the world around her primarily through (Western) scientific constructs
Also, Kira absolutely has unexamined caste biases; she just never really learnt to recognise them because caste played such a minimal role in the Resistance- but most Bajorans are far more aware of caste dynamics than she typically is (I just do not buy that the D'jarra system completely went away in less than 60 years)
one character i love seeing them interact with
Ben Sisko! They have SUCH a fascinating dynamic, it's so complex and sweet and often quite trying and hurtful but still kept afloat on this deep, deep underlying mutual respect. Ben's position as the Emissary makes everything so wonderfully complicated, and watching Kira's frustrations at the fact that she actually believes in him morph into reassurance as he slowly transforms from being the Starfleet Outsider to truly being Of Bajor... ahhh it's so good. That scene where he invites her to a baseball game lives in my head rent free! (Also they high key make a fascinating ship imo, I am something of a post-canon Sisko/Kira/Kasidy truther)
one character i wish they would interact with/interact with more
I have multiple answers to this (Julian, Worf, Garak, Keiko, Ziyal, Cretak, Jake, Ezri, etc) but I'm gonna go with someone she actually interacts with quite a bit, because I just wanted mOArrr. Jadzia!
Yes, it was the 90s, so I'm glad they were at least allowed to be friends and not like, cattily pitted against each other. But I still craved more layers to their onscreen dynamic! I mean, Jadzia, the Starfleet "Science Officer" who openly dismisses Kira's religious beliefs on more than one occasion? Kira, the child soldier who finds most of Jadzia's pastimes and preoccupations frivolous and silly? It's so interesting that they keep spending time together despite such fundamental differences, and I would've loved a bigger exploration as to why! They deserved their own 'The Wire', basically. Much like the central two characters of that episode, the answer is that they actually have a LOT more in common than is apparent at first glance (fraught senses of identity, complicated relationships with their home worlds, a sense of loss regarding family) where they outwardly seem like polar opposites. And all of this is not even getting into the nonlinearity of Bajoran religion vs the lives of Dax... gosh, there was room for so much! They deserved a whole Big Sequence full of Monologues the actors could really sink their teeth into, they deserved for one of them to fly off on a dangerous quest to save the others' life- and you know what!! They deserved a little homoerotic hand-holding too!! But, I suppose that's what fanfiction is for😂
one (or more) headcanon(s) i have that involve them and one other character
She and Bashir definitely grow much closer after the show's end; whether he stays behind on DS9 or not :)
#just gonna clarify- my second point really wasn't targeted at anybody on here. not an attack I promise!!#I just feel like we erase the nuances with her a bit#like in wider trek fandom I've seen a lot of people talk about her attitude towards cardassians as if she's a bigot#which I feel is extremely reductive of her character (and dismissive of her trauma too)#meanwhile on here people (sometimes) talk about her like she walks around with a CARDASSIANS DNI banner or something#like the very suggestion of her (or any other bajoran) having to interact with a cardassian is unthinkable and offensive?#and imo this really just doesn't reflect canon at all! (or irl postcolonial dynamics. but.. I don't wanna go there lol)#recently was talking to a mutual about her dynamic with cardassians (g@rak in particular) and it made me realise#they're actually far more civil with each other in the show than even I make them out to be! and I'm like- the no1 'k1ra & g@rak' fan lmao#even in TOBAW she's actually invested in ghem0r's politics. she's enthusiastic that he represents ''hope for cardassia''#and she REALLY doesn't have to be! yet she is. what precisely this says about her is so much more interesting to think about#also... idk. in general writing bajor as if completely and magically stripped of all cardassian influence and interaction is so weird to me#(let's just say if things really worked that way I would not be writing this in English lol)#tysm for the ask btw!! always glad to have an opportunity ramble about k!ra nerys :)#ask game
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littleeyesofpallas · 1 year
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man im in a weird headspace recently... first The One headcanons, and now this... that's a lotta thoroughly dead content i'm giving brain space to
So, in the now tragically forgotten and buried jrpg franchise, Wild Arms, there was this whole fun gimmick where the wild west influence extended into other tangential americana as well. there's heavy borrowing from D&D, and horror films as well as westerns, and classic romanticized cowboy mythos and such... So in any case the games also had a few cross media spinoffs, including a TV anime and a shortlived manga.
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There is a character in the manga named Jye-chi-ka[ジェチカ] which the brave, lone scanlator team, TurtleParadise --back in... what, 2010?-- romanized as Jessica. But I don't know if that's correct.
For context, the other two leads in the series are named Ma-ku-shi Re-mi-n'-to-n'[マキシ・レミントン] transliterated back into Maxi Remington, a clear reference to the Remington Arms Company, his sister, ko-ne-tto[コネット] taken to be something like Conette or Connett, and Gy[ギィ] who they called Guy, as in the French name, which I think was the correct choice. But as you can sort of see, apart from the Remington bit, the names don't appear to be overt references to anything else to help triangulate Jechika's name.
Jechika is btw a member of a minority group of native American analogs within the Wild Arms world, semi-consistent across different games, called the Baskar. Some other Baskar have been named things like...
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Tim Rhymeless and Colette Mapleleaf in WA2; both rather innocuous names... And the family of Gallows, Shane, and Halle Carradine in WA3, much more overtly referencing the iconic scene of lawless frontier justice, Shane from the movie Shane, and Halley's comet plus actor David Carradine, probably tied to this thru the now infamous cult classic TV show, Kung Fu, where producer meddling outed Bruce Lee as lead in favor of having David Carradine play Kwai Chang Caine, a wandering shaolin monk in the wild west.
But this all, as you may be catching onto, also does not help establish clear patterns to help with...
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Some random NPCs have names like Harold, Ellen, Cordell, and Laraina? Funny enough these I can sort of tie into references with a bit of guess work.
Cordell in particular stands out as a less common name to have picked here, and I want to assume it's a reference to Cordell Walker, Chuck Norris' star character in Walker Texas Ranger.
In the context of wild west icons, legendary outlaw, Ellen Liddy "Cattle Kate" Watson is the first to come to mind.
I have no idea what to make of Harold... Harold Gould? Semi-famous character actor in TV and film of the 60s-70s? He hardly seems reference worthy, he didn't exactly have a lot of standout roles... Harold McCracken? Sort of famous painter of pseudo-historical wild west scenes? Are those names a random Japanese game dev would have really been able to stumble into in the 2000s? It's the name "Harold" it could be practicallyanyone...
And technically "Laraina"'s name is actually written ri-re-i-na[リレイナ] so that one could just be a localization flub. Actually, it appears to be how they japanized the name of Wynona Rider's character in the 1994 movie, Reality Bites; the character's name is Lelaina Pierce. It's far from being a western but it does take place in Texas, for a Japanese creator maybe that's cowboy adjacent enough?)
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So I dunno... Maybe it is Jessica and it's just a weird choice of names because the manga author doesnt have access to the core creative team's specific sensibilities. Maybe it doesn't matter because the core team's sensibilities are also unstable. And if anything, it feels vaguely slavic to me? Like, the way those phonetics roll off the tongue to me sounds like it ought to be something like Tetscheka? Dzhetgya?? Czeschka(like the painter)??? But why would anyone have named a native american analog in some sort of pseudo-slovenian?
I realize this is a cold case. And one without any real answers. But it's one of those things that drives me nuts when I look up somethings simple like, "What were those characters' names again?" and then find myself having wasted the morning on a wild goose chase and now i'm late for work...
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I have a lot of thoughts and feelings about The Outcasts floating around my head, to the point that I'll probably do some kind of write up about it, but I am so pleasantly surprised by having watched it and so impressed by how they chose to end the series
It's not an ending-ending-- even if they knew they were being cancelled (and I suspect they did), big tv finales weren't really a thing in the same way then-- but there is a genuine attempt at an emotional wrap-up that basically says: racism is learned, and anyone can stop being a bigot and learn antiracism, but they have to be willing to put in the work, and the work is often hard and humbling and thankless
After watching the second-to-last episode, I was convinced that the last episode was going to be a disappointment, because the second-to-last episode ends with what feels like a summation-- Corey and Jemal have split up but find each other again, make peace, and then actually announce that they need to talk about their partnership at the end of the episode
I assumed maybe there was an aired-out-of-order kind of thing going on and that the last episode would be a disappointing return to the status quo
But lo and behold, the last episode of the series has Jemal and Corey behaving a little differently-- they're kinder to one another, they apologize when they start fighting (and they only really start fighting once in the episode), Corey goes out of his way to humble himself to prevent Jemal from having to do the same, they examine the ways Jemal's conception of manhood is wrapped up in violence (because it's the only way he's ever had power) without saying he's wrong, and the question that keeps getting asked-- but never answered-- "why do you two ride together?" -- Jemal answers-- privately, without the audience of Corey, and you can see he's telling the truth. The episode ends with Corey saying he doesn't feel that any town or city is "right" for him anymore, and that he's happy to be on the trail with Jemal.
Which is to say: we didn't see them talk about their partnership, but we know that they did. We see that they're choosing the hard path of understanding, that they're following through, that the status quo has to be discarded. We see that Corey understands what privileges he has chosen to give up for his friend (and what their friendship means), and that he reaffirms that denouncing that privilege is the correct choice.
I watched the first episode of this show out of morbid curisoity-- why in god's name would ANYONE make a show about a former slave and a former plantation owner working together-- came to accept that it was a product of its time but not intending harm-- it's to show us that anyone can renounce racism, but has a naiive 60's 'can't we all just get along' view of what that means-- and came out on the other side thinking-- huh. This was a show that got cancelled because it looked racists in the eye and said 'you can, and you must do better-- and you're going to lose things and status because of it, and you simply have to live with that.' It's not perfect-- it's still a 1960's Western written by two old white guys-- but I'm glad I watched it, both because it was an enjoyable ride and because it's a fascinating bit of lost TV history.
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SARA LANE (1949-Died March 3rd 2023,at 73.Cancer).American actress and horse trainer,best known for her role as Elizabeth Grainger,in the classic 60;s US tv western,The Virginian,starring James Drury and Doug McClure and Lee J Cobb.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sara_Lane_(actress)
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