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twisted-art-wounders · 7 months

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Marinette Dupain-Cheng The village baker and seamstress; Marinette does any different jobs around her village to make ends meet while dealing with the abuse spouted out by the noble Lady Chloe. Kind and creative Marinette does her best to help when she can, after helping a strange traveller she is gifted with a magical seed that grew into a small fairy who presented her a pair of magical earrings that could perform a miracle. Once she climbed to the top of a giant beanstalk she discovered a giant castle occupied by a giant named Adrien. At first she doesn't trust the giant (since he is friends with Chloe after all) but after making a deal with him to teach him how to bake bread in exchange for treasures she can use to help pay off Chloe, she starts to see how kind and gentle he really is.

After some time she convinces him to come with her back to the village and at first everyone is terrorized of him, but soon he starts to show off his kindness and helps the village to thrive.

(Prince) Adrien Agreste The giant that lives in the clouds; Adrien was once a happy prince set to inherit his mother's kingdom come his 18th birthday but tragically on his 16th birthday Adrien would lose his both his mother and his freedom. He was cursed and grow to a monstrous size that caused the total collapse of their castle which killed his mother. With his new found size Adrien was dazed and confused as he almost destroyed the kingdom but his father King Gabriel used a powerful spell and sent Adrien into the clouds where he'd soon live. 5 years would pass and Adrien was forced to live a new life among the clouds, while he had shelter, food and clothing thanks to his father he was also isolated and kept away form all humans as he father told him his presence among them would cause unrest.

With only Chloe as a visitor and rarely seeing his father anymore Adrien become more lonely then ever until he met Marinette. At first it was hard to get her to trust him but eventually the two started to bond over their baking and started to become close. Marinette convinces him to come back with her to her village.

King Gabriel Agreste The current King of the land of Graham de Vanily; after the great tragedy that befell the kingdom 5 years ago Gabriel become a recluse and stayed within his newly rebuilt palace after the death of his wife and disappearance of his son. While not of royal blood himself Gabriel is a gifted spell caster and using his powers he decided to punish his rotten brother in law by cursing his nephew Felix to become wild and uncontrollable. The spell seemed to backfire and made both Felix and Adrien grow to monstrous sizes and destroy both castles; causing Queen Emilie's death. Trying to hide the truth Gabriel used a powerful spell to send Adrien into the clouds creating a land form him to live on and to keep him away form the people of the land who he knew would blame him for the great tragedy. He then came up with the story of the monster that attacked both kingdoms and stole away prince Adrien.

Gabriel never told Adrien about the cause of his mother's death but did tell him in order to keep himself and world safe he'd have to live in the sky where no one would see him. Meanwhile Gabriel looked far and wide to find a away to bring his fallen queen back to life, he eventually discovered that a pair of powerful magical objects could grant the wish of anyone who held both items. Gabriel became consumed with finding those objects, neglecting Adrien and his kingdom causing the nobles to become more power hungry and driven. Lady Chloe Bourgeois Part of one of noble families that rule over Marinette's village; Chloe is spoiled and full of herself she'll do anything to get what she wants. She threatens both Marinette and her village with the fear of a giant she has full command over. She's Adrien's only friend at first and tricks him into believing she is a kind and caring person and tells him to help her hold onto all the treasures the villages pay her. She works closely with King Gabriel to keep Adrien locked away and keep the villages in order. Lady Kagami Tsurugi One of the nobles that rule over the smaller villages; Kagami was hired by the former queen Amelie to help her son the former prince of the fallen kingdom. Kagami and Felix set out together to find the truth about what King Gabriel is after and why he cursed Felix. Kagmai is very capable and strong she's able to command armies and fight on even footing with the strongest swordsmen. She starts become close to Felix and he treasures her as both a close friend and a lover. Prince Felix Fathom The son of the former queen Amelie; at the age of 16 he was cursed by an evil spell that caused him to grow to a monstrous size, in a fit of rage and confusion he destroyed the castle killing his father and destroyed the rest of the kingdom. After his rampage he and his mother had to abandon their kingdom and go into hiding, Felix continued to grow as he aged but managed to stay hidden thanks to his mother's powers. Felix soon discovered that the curse that made him grow and have a rampage was caused by his uncle King Gabriel. He decided to set out and find out what really happened to his cousin the long lost prince Adrien. He knew Adrien was also cursed and wanted to free him form his uncle's control, his mother enlisted the help of the noble woman Kagami Tsurugi to accompany Felix on his quest and find the true intentions of the corrupt King.

#marinette dupain cheng #adrien agreste #gabriel agreste #chloe bourgeois #kagami tsurugi #felix fathom #marinette and the beanstalk #au #miraculous #fan art

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nobodyfamousposts · 5 months

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Do you think people cling on too much to Adrien's high road advice as a reason to salt on him?

Yes, especially when there are plenty of other reasons to salt him that have previously been ignored. But to that end, it DOES serve as the final straw for people after a SERIES of problems that had previously gone unaddressed.

Much like many aspects of the show, Adrien has displayed problematic behaviors that have been overlooked and waved off in the earlier seasons. This is likely or especially due to the way how in each and every incident, Adrien was narratively shown to be correct. In his stance. In his choices. In his behaviors. He was always right. It doesn't matter if he shouldn't be, because he is.

Now unless you're a hater or anti or salter or whatever negative name people tend to get for not liking a story as it's presented, readers and watchers tend to follow along with the narrative as it presents things and how it presents things. It's a common setup in any story. Protagonist Centered Morality, I feel framed best by Susan in the Discord series:

Susan: ...and then Jack chopped down the beanstalk, adding murder and ecological vandalism to the theft, enticement and trespass charges already mentioned, but he got away with it and lived happily ever after without so much as a guilty twinge about what he had done. Which proves that you can be excused anything if you're a hero, because no one asks inconvenient questions.

Pretty much this. Most people will follow what the narrative says because it's the narrative. If the narrative wants you to focus on Marinette being embarrassed, you're going to focus on how much she's cringe. And if the narrative wants you to view Adrien as a perfect sunshine boy who never does anything wrong, anything he does is going to be framed through that lens and it's difficult to break from that view and call out the times when he is wrong. Not unless he does something particularly severe.

It should be noted that outside of Chameleon, Adrien had, among other things: lied to his partner, caused someone to get akumatized and had his partner take the blame, was messing around during life-threatening and city-threatening situations, did nothing as Chloe tormented people right in front of him, DEFENDED Chloe after she tormented people right in front of him, bailed on an event with friends to set up a date with someone who said she had other plans and then got mad at HER for it, tried to flirt or confess in the middle of an active crisis which took necessary attention away from said crisis, caused himself AND his partner to get hit by akuma powers and needlessly be taken out of commission.

And yet people could mostly overlook these instances. They weren't his fault. Chloe is his friend. Marinette is worse. He's just a kid. He has a tragic backstory. So on and so forth. Easy to overlook. Easy to ignore in favor of the Sunshine Boy setup people were given and want to believe in.

But there were three major instances that really grabbed people's attention and stayed:

His attitude in Frozer. It probably wouldn't have been so bad except this rejection already happened in Glaciator, where he was supposed to have learned a lesson and accepted just being Ladybug's friend and now apparently didn't, despite it happening earlier that very season. Then in response, he decides to date Kagami as a rebound, drags Marinette with him on his date (without realizing how he's asking his friend to be a third wheel on a DATE) and focuses on her when he's supposed to be with Kagami, throws another tantrum in the middle of an akuma fight and refuses to work with his partner when the city is literally frozen, and requires Ladybug to apologize to him for hurting his feelings before he finally working with her. Again. But okay, he's a teenage boy in love. Not used to rejection and got his feelings hurt. Lovesquare is endgame so of course it'll work out anyway, so it's not like this bump in the road is really going to matter long term so we shouldn't hold it against him. Fine. Dumb, but fine. We've forgiven it in other shows and other poorly done teen romances, we can forgive it here.

His behavior in Syren in which he demanded to know secrets from people when the secrets were not theirs to tell him, and went so far as to attempt to blackmail his kwami (which was funny) and threaten to quit and abandon the Ring that the big bad is after while the city is flooded and people were trying to not drown (which was decidedly less humorous). But it was played for wholesome when Plagg reassured him and he got what he wanted by Fu revealed himself even if Adrien did nothing to actually show he earned it, so all's well that ends well, I guess? And people could justify it because "they're partners" and "part of a team" and "she should trust him" and "it's not fair he's the only one left out of the loop" and "he has a right to know" and just general "Fu is an idiot" (which is admittedly hard to argue). So people were disgruntled, but most were willing to overlook it.

His holier than thou lecture to Marinette in Maledictator over everyone being happy Chloe was leaving. When all Marinette was doing at the time was watching everyone else have fun. When Adrien specifically guilted Marinette and not any of the other actual partiers involved who were literally throwing a party over his friend leaving and probably should have warranted a lecture more than the girl just standing there. When the girl in question was also Chloe's main target and out of everyone had valid reasons to be happy that her bully won't be around to bully her anymore. When Adrien himself has historically been present to witness Marinette being targeted including twice he witnessed Chloe attempt to steal from Marinette, once he witnessed her try to blackmail Marinette, and numerous other times when she actively caused harm to Marinette and others. When Adrien then proceeded to sit in a corner and pout rather than do anything else or just leave if the party really bothered him. When Adrien, if he really cared so damn much, could have gone after Chloe himself! Or y'know...have stood up for Chloe earlier when she got upset in the first place. But fine, okay, Chloe is his childhood friend. So maybe he's just being biased and oblivious to the fact that his "friend" is a horrible person. But people can excuse and justify it in that they are friends and friends support each other, and the longer someone is friends with someone else, the harder it is to break from them. And that Marinette was probably just the target of his lecture because she was the one there in the moment (and the only one who would listen without arguing). And her calling Chloe useless was "mean" despite it being quite frankly the least of what she could have said about her in the moment (coughcough theft cough blackmail cough punished the entire school cough TRIED TO CRASH A TRAIN AND NEARLY KILLED HER AND HER PARENTS COUGH-FREAKINGCOUGH). Fine. Childhood friend means Adrien supports her in all her horrible and even deadly actions. Frustrating, but again, able to be explained and you can see where he's coming from.

These are all things that definitely got Adrien some side eye at best and some detractors at worst.

BUT if you really think about it, all of these examples are objectively worse than his lecture to Marinette in Chameleon. Not accepting being told "no" and continuing to chase a girl who isn't that in to him (while leading on another). Putting lives at risk over personal wants that could quite honestly wait until AFTER the crisis is over. Defending someone who is harmful and guilt tripping the victims. Compared to those, telling someone to leave a liar to their lying seems relatively minor.

So why this? Why here? Why is it Chameleon that has people saying enough is enough? Why is it this episode that is causing the sunshine boy to be so tarnished and the subject of salt in fan fiction?

Because this is the time when it couldn't be rationalized. There wasn't even a valid sensible canon-based reason for his stance. The arguments that Adrien "knew confronting her wouldn't work" or that he "handled her like paparazzi" or that he "knew Marinette previously failed when she tried" (even though he wasn't there and didn't know) or that he "didn't think anyone would believe him" don't come from canon. Those were fan arguments made after the fact to justify him after the base was broken and the outcry became too much to ignore.

This case didn't have any of the ties or rationales of the previous incidents. Adrien wasn't defending himself or his place in a partnership. He wasn't fighting for his love or his dream or an outcome he wanted and that we all knew was coming—if anything, he was fighting against her. He wasn't defending a friend like he did with Chloe—I mean, it's pretty evident he doesn't even really know or like Lila at this point, and for all intents and purposes, this is apparently only the second day he actually had any interaction with her. There was no notable reason Adrien really had for why he essentially chose to protect Lila over literally anyone else as she wasn't a friend and it wasn't in his interests to protect her from a consequence that wouldn't hurt her short term as much as it would likely harm everyone else long term.

And yet, he still defended her and her freedom to lie. Over Marinette. Over Ladybug. Over his friends. Over any sense of right and wrong he seems to have no problem throwing around when it comes to Marinette/Ladybug. Which seems like he targets her 9 times out of 10 compared to pretty much anyone else by this point. So it's little wonder then that people who didn't already hate the lovesquare because of the cringe factor from Marinette started to hate it for being incredibly unhealthy given that their relatively limited interactions tend to involve him lecturing her for failing to live up to his double standards that only seem to apply to her in any given situation.

This incident by itself doesn't seem like much, but when looked at as part of the series as a whole, it's when people couldn't keep overlooking this trend. Where he seems to admonish the wrong person. Where he acts like a mouthpiece rather than a person. Talks like he’s wise in a situation he seems to have a childish and one-sided view of. Acts like a brat but is treated as though he has no accountability in the situation he causes. Where he is wrong but no one and certainly not the narrative acknowledges it (not until season five and two seasons too late when it doesn't matter and he's still not the one facing consequences for it).

And it's not like he actually follows the stances he himself promotes. In Chameleon, canon presents him with this idealistic stance that Lila could change if given a chance, except he doesn't give her a chance. He doesn't push her to be a better person. He doesn't support or in any way help her to be the better person he insisted to Marinette she could be. He also doesn't do anything or warn anyone when she keeps lying and actively harms the people he says he cares about. He doesn't do anything one way or the other other than some lackluster encouragement to stop lying and a warning that goes nowhere. It just further gives credit to the argument that Adrien either simply doesn't care about other people, or that he doesn't care for Marinette specifically. Neither is conducive to the lovesquare or the increasingly tarnished view of the "sunshine boy".

And it could have worked. Canonically and intrinsically to his character. His idealism and trust in the wrong person comes back to bite him. He learns and grows from it. Except that, much like with nearly everything he does in canon, Chameleon set it up that Adrien was the writers' mouthpiece and thus was not "wrong". I'll grant that they did have him admit it and apologize to Marinette for it two seasons later, but it is pretty evident that during Chameleon, they intended his lecture to be right, with no foreshadowing and no implication otherwise. And I'm fairly certain they only backtracked and had him do that much because of the amount of fan outrage over the episode.

So yes, I think his lecture in Chameleon was really a final straw since unlike Chloe, Adrien has NO relationship with Lila to justify his defense of her. Especially when the argument is in favor of letting her lie to the people he's supposed to care about. That combined with how jarring it was how most of the class just sided with Lila over the seat issue in the first place, and I think people were less inclined to just ignore the problems in the episode specifically and with the series as a whole as they were compared to the first and second seasons. Not just with Adrien, as we see that Alya also started getting more callout and salt since then as well as more retrospective scrutiny over her behavior in earlier seasons.

But yeah...Chameleon was where things seemed to take a 180, so it's bound to be the deciding episode and deciding incident that sticks out in people's minds with these characters. That's probably why it ends up the go-to for salt and complaints on the characters involved instead of any of the other incidents that would arguably warrant it more.

#ml salt #adrien salt #chameleon salt #season 5 salt #ml analysis #ml essay #yes it's a lot of salt #yes i am doing this again

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tumble-witch · 4 months

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TW light suggestion of body horror. No descriptions though!

Creatomachia

Bunnix shows up in Marinette's bedroom when it's already dark outside.

Marinette knows what the older heroine is about to ask the second she hears the burrow open. When Bunnix greets her, Marinette is hyperventilating. Instead of exchanging pleasantries, she asks:

- Is it... him again?

Bunnix has a grim expression on her face, yet shakes her head. Marinette exhales. She has another question.

- Is it something I did?

- No. I'm sorry I'm asking this from you again. I'm sorry there will be no answers yet.

- It's okay. I am ready.

At first Ladybug thinks she is on another planet. Another dimension, even. There are cloud fractals in the sky. There is a street light growing out of another one, growing out of another one, growing out of another one... Trees are huge and have so many leaves they are almost a solid green mass. Some buildings are so tall they go way past the clouds in a curvy line. It reminds her of the Jack and the Beanstalk fairytale her mom used to read her before bed.

The roads branch out like blood vessels, getting smaller with each separation, ending in dead ends near the buildings or growing vertically on top of the walls.

The whole city almost looks like it could move at any second. It almost looks alive.

As Ladybug progresses through the streets (if she can even call them that), she finally realizes where the people are.

At least, what's left of them.

Infinite growth apparently works on humans, too. She never thought she'd be so thankful to see somebody not move.

The silence makes her ears ring. Everything is quiet, except for some mechanical sounds the structures make, not really meant to support their own weight in this new form.

Then, she hears laughter.

A girl with hair so long she's not sure where it ends is frantically pacing around the roof, her body movements jittery and odd. As the camera of the heroine's yo-yo focuses on the akuma, helping seek out where the cursed butterfly is hiding, Ladybug realizes the dress this girl is wearing is not grey.

It's is covered in trillions of colourful tiny dots of different shapes and sizes. They seem jittery too, as if trying to move, but some force is making them stay together. This feels like standing up after lying down for too long. Looking at the pattern for too long makes her head hurt

Ladybug continues hiding. She takes her time looking for clues. At this point she's not really sure if the girl is actually laughing or this is a weird hysterical cry. Sometimes the akuma starts muttering under her nose, too quiet to make out most of the words. Ladybug is pretty sure she heard the girl say "I can fix this" a few times though. She shifts to hear the words better.

The akuma turns around

This is the hardest she's ever fought. Chat Blanc feels like child's play now.

While the villain almost looks out of breath, long hair going everywhere, Ladybug is still barely able to keep up.

The air is too dense with oxygen.

The girl has a yo-yo as a weapon, in a cruel twist of irony. And she's damn good with it. Yet, she clearly hesitates in using the thing, saving it as a last resort to escape.

Ladybug tries to reason with the akumatized victim.

- Wait! Please, let me help you!

- You don't understand, - the girl looks around frantically, - I have to fix this! I need to fix this!

Villain's grey yo-yo starts to glow white and she throws it at a fire hydrant, making it grow another one on top.

The akuma was inside the earring. Ladybug was hit by the yo-yo. She doesn't have the time to think as she casts Miraculous cure, just before her brain registered the pain fully.

She'll remember the way it looked when she closes her eyes though.

The streets go back to normal. Her body is normal. Ladybug turns around and meets the eyes of

herself

Marinette sits on the ground, horrified. But before Ladybug can talk to her Bunnix appears and she has to go.

Bunnix doesn't say anything as they walk through the burrow, but she's pretty sure the older heroine is holding her shoulder softer than ever before.

They didn't change anything. They didn't fix anything after they came back, no scoldings, no erasing her name from anywhere, nothing. Marinette is growing more paranoid at every turn, expecting to get akumatized. Her conflict avoidance is at all times high. She's withdrawing from her friends.

Nobody is near when Hawkmoth himself shows up in the middle of the night and she has to transform. He senses her distress immediately.

This is just too easy.

The butterfly lands in her earring just as she started to call for a last effort Lucky Charm.

"Creatomachia, this is Hawkmoth. You are overwhelmed with every problem creating a million smaller ones. Things seem to stack on top of each other and just never end. I'll give you the power to fix everything. In return, you will give me your and Chat Noir's miraculous."

For a split second, everything is white.

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literaphobe · 6 months

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i think that an interesting fundamental misunderstanding that adrienette have about each other is that ultimately they BOTH view the other as a ‘damsel in distress’ of sorts. maribug viewing adrien in this way is obvious -> she’s a knight, he’s a princess in a tower, a prisoner strapped to a thorny beanstalk, someone she must save, someone who needs saving. with adrichat, it might not be as evident, but he’s also always very focused on getting her somewhere faraway and safe, which well, is obvious because to him she’s a civilian, BUT you have situations like the paris special where he gets very worried about whether marinette’s been placed somewhere far and away from danger, but barely even questions how and why alya’s been running through the streets of paris all night to help them fight superpowered villains

this also means they Don’t think the other is feeling weighed down by the burdens of superheroism, that when they look into each other’s eyes, they see a beacon of light, something to escape in. they think they’re with someone who has nothing to do with any of these superhero struggles. but none of it is true at all. they’re BOTH burdened by their heroic responsibilities, and they both need saving, and they’re both hurting so much in ways they can’t speak a word of. meaning they can’t comfort each other the way they need to and could and I think that is an impending tragedy in and of itself

#text #adrienette #miraculous ladybug #mlbposting

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snitchesnsneeds · 1 month

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Bethany's Bizarre Miraculous Reviews Episode 3-6: Weredad

This is the episode where Marinette cries about her hamster being loneliness, right?

Chat, quit yapping and cataclysm the baby's bracelet.

Marinette, that was the worst lie I think you've ever told. In both believability and possible consequences.

Whatever, dumb teenagers during a less sinister monster-of-the-week.

I like how Plagg's response for Adrien loving Ladybug but not Marinette was "have you considered polyamory?"

If only Adrien could tell Marinette he doesn't love her out of the costume. Things would move a lot quicker, I tell you hwat.

Ah, yes, this is the loneliness hamster episode!

In general this episode is really funny. The man locking his car only to get it crushed, Tom defending his bakery from a cake-hungry baby, the awkward brunch scene, Weredad threatening to crush Chat Noir's balls(?), the list goes on.

I'm also a big fan of this episode's scenery. The cloudy sky, the thorny beanstalk and its interior, it's great!

Oh gravy I've really become a Lukanette shipper. When Weredad was monologuing about a prince coming to brave the dangers I kept on imagining Luka as a noble bard. Oh man have I strayed from being into the main ship of the show.

#miraculous ladybug #miraculoustalesofladybugandcatnoir #miraculous #marinette dupain cheng #miraculous marinette #ml ladybug #adrien agreste #miraculous adrien #chat noir #ml chat noir #lukanette #tom dupain

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miraculouslycool · 10 months

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interesting. so the nightmares of people under the same roof can blend together - hence the presence of weredad's beanstalk in marinette's dream, but they also subconsciously manifest in real life - tom gives marinette a mountain of croissants, marinette shrinking in tom's dream is a reference to her being multimouse or gabriel using the mouse's power while sprinking the dust. meaning that...marinette's dream of gabriel dying in front of adrien has a high chance of coming true...?

#ml spoilers #conformation

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uptoolateart · 2 years

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Gabriel Agreste as Bluebeard (and other Miraculous fairy tale archetypes)

I think by now, we are all aware that Miraculous is filled with fairy tale archetypes, i.e. story elements that show up time and again, because they resonate with all of us in some powerful way. Some of these archetypes are more obvious because we were raised with the stories, either in books or via the Disney franchise. But there is one key archetype – Bluebeard – that I never see brought up. It’s much darker than the others, and it lies at the heart of the whole show.

So, let’s start with a look at the obvious.

Snow White / Sleeping Beauty

I expect we all know this is Emilie Agreste, sleeping in her glass coffin. What’s interesting to speculate on is what it suggests about her. Both Snow and Aurora ended up in their comas because of temptation – Snow (like the biblical Eve) was tempted by the apple and Aurora by the spindle. Perhaps Emilie was also led by temptation – but then, who was the ‘temptress’? We could infer that Gabriel was the wicked witch who led her astray, something we saw touched upon in ‘Gabriel Agreste’.

In other words: was Emilie doomed by her own actions…or was she manipulated by her husband? We’ll come back to this, when we look at Bluebeard.

Rapunzel

Again, I think we all know this is Adrien, locked away in the tower. There is constant cage imagery, from the bars on his bedroom windows to the bars he’s always having to cataclysm, and even the cage he was suspended in during ‘Queen Banana’.

On a more obvious level, he is trapped by an overbearing father who doesn’t want him to learn anything about the real world. It’s easier to control your child if he never meets anyone or has any personal experiences. Then you can fill his head with whatever stories you want about people and the outside world, and he will believe you. This isn’t just fairy tale or Miraculous – this happens all the time, in real life. Grooming your child into sharing your own beliefs about how the world works is something all parents do, to some extent…for better or worse.

But Adrien is also trapped by public expectations, and the roles he has created for himself. In ‘Risk’, we saw how he felt unable to tell his classmates the truth about not wanting to go away with Lila. Throughout the season, he has felt stuck in the character of Cat Noir and unable to rewrite his personal script. Happily, by the end of ‘Strike Back’ it felt like he was finally breaking those bars.

I have a bit of an obsession with tower symbolism in stories and artwork. Rapunzel’s tower can be seen as symbolic of all the structures put in place to keep us from expressing our innermost truth – and some of those structures, we create ourselves. In a way, I think we all have Rapunzel moments, and the whole tower has to shatter to set us free. This is exemplified in the Tower card of any tarot deck – something people usually find frightening, because it is. It’s scary to have everything you are familiar with come tumbling down – but sometimes we need this, to feel free to be ourselves.

This is what Adrien is facing right now – he is on the brink of seeing the tower shatter. When he finds out the truth about his parents, the destruction will be complete. It will then be down to Adrien either to go down with the pieces or to pick them up and build something new, something better.

Beauty and the Beast / Little Red Riding Hood

I’m grouping these together because they both feature in ‘Weredad’. Marinette’s father transforms into the big bad wolf, demonstrating that this archetype can be channelled even by those with supposedly good intentions. Marinette is trapped temporarily in a tower of her own – up a magic beanstalk, no less, symbolic of the way things can quickly spiral out of control and become bigger than we can handle. (Remember, at the top of Jack’s beanstalk, there were giants – but also, the promise of gold, a reminder that if we can overcome these obstacles that come our way, we will be richly rewarded, if only with the wisdom we take away from the experience.)

Vines prevent Marinette, Indiana Jones-style, from reaching the pink rose enclosed in glass. The rose means many things. For starters, we could see the flower as a symbol of budding sexuality (as are the poisoned apple and the deadly spindle, by the way). Tom is trying to prevent his ‘little girl’ from growing up. This is a large part of what Little Red Riding Hood is about – the dangers of awakening sexuality and those who will take advantage of inexperience. However, in ‘Weredad’, Marinette shows us that she doesn’t need rescuing and she can handle herself. This is reinforced in ‘Dearest Family’.

We could also see the flower as the symbol it is in ‘Beauty and the Beast’, as the hidden, human side to the Beast. It's about the masks we wear, and learning to see beneath them to the heart of a person. This links back to Rapunzel and the tower: the rose is Marinette’s spirit being shut up and locked away (put under glass, like Snow and Aurora), just as Adrien’s spirit is suppressed by his father. He recognises this, which is why he makes his speech to Weredad, about how painful this is. By the end of the episode, we see that only Marinette can lift the lid and free her spirit – just as Adrien has to free his own.

Bluebeard

So now we reach Bluebeard – one of my personal favourites. For those who don’t know this very grim fairy tale, it’s about a young woman (probably about 16) who is married off to a wealthy, charming older man who tells her she has free reign of his mansion – except for one door. If she ever opens that door, she will be punished.

It's very like the old Greek myth of Pandora’s box, where Pandora is given a box she must never open. Temptation (again) is too much to bear, and she opens it, and it unleashes all the evils and ailments of the universe upon the living.

In Bluebeard, one day when he’s out hunting, the young wife opens the forbidden door and discovers a closet full of the bodies of Bluebeard’s past wives. It turns out that he never went away – this was a trap, to test her, and he surprises her now and says that, because she failed the test, he will kill her like he killed the others. Fortuitously, her brothers burst in at exactly that moment and save her.

Like the rose, Bluebeard is symbolic of a lot of things. This story is where we get the expression ‘skeletons in the closet’. It refers to any secrets we keep about our past, some more serious than others. Bluebeard used his charm, wealth and power to win over a number of wives. He fooled their parents, too. I suppose he didn’t fool the brothers, but he got away with it for so many years that it makes you question the society in which he lived…and reflect on how frequently this sort of thing happens in real life.

I wonder about some things Gabriel has said about Emilie. We don’t know much about her. Adrien seems to have no specific memories of her and vaguely says she used to make him laugh. The most information we have comes from Gabriel, in ‘Simon Says’, when he says she had a temper and was ‘way too overly dramatic’. For a long time. I thought these were hints that she wasn’t all sweetness and light; and the fact that she used that peacock miraculous literally to death suggests that perhaps she had crafty intentions. We want to say that surely only a certain type of woman would be attracted to a man like Gabriel. He had to have hints of Hawk Moth in him, all along, right? Because these ‘secret identities’ already lurk inside everyone. Surely the Grand Masters didn’t make an evil miraculous. The butterfly only gets used for ill deeds because of Gabriel’s mindset and intentions (a subject for another post!).

Then I got to thinking: Gabriel is not a reliable narrator. We can’t trust him! Maybe Gabriel is so abusive that what he calls ‘way too overly dramatic’ was just Emilie telling him something he did made her unhappy, and Gabriel brushed off her feelings as unimportant or even irritating. The fact that he is so devoted to bringing her back, now, doesn’t change a thing. It’s part of the abuser profile to swing radically back and forth between abuse and over-the-top sentimentality. Trust me – my father was a Bluebeard (metaphorically – no literal bodies!).

Nathalie, then, is one of the subsequent wives – crucially, the one who thinks she will be the one to change him. Bluebeard can be seen as the opposite of the Beast – he plays the part of the handsome prince, but the beast is what lurks within. Nathalie chooses to see the prince and ignore the beast, even when she is the most aware that it’s there. She goes along with all his dark plans, when she must know better. She uses the peacock, knowing it will damage her. We can see this as an allegory for women who remain in an abusive relationship when they can see it’s killing them.

Nathalie is like those women we used to see on chat shows like Ricki Lake. There would be two women sitting on either side of a man who had been two-timing them. Rather than kicking the man to the curb, the women would hurl abuse at each other and insist that each of them was the woman he truly loved.

Similarly, Nathalie is fatally devoted to helping Gabriel realise his ambitions – but if he does, where will that leave her? Maybe she doesn’t really think it will work, and she can worm her way into his heart in the meantime. If only she sacrifices herself that much more, he will love her…! But he won’t.

Noticeably, he lets both her and Emilie use that peacock to the point of death. Remember: it doesn’t kill you right away – he saw it happening and let it keep happening again and again. He says things like, ‘I’m so sorry I had to make you use it again,’ while knowing full well what it does. Let’s be honest: he isn’t sorry at all. As soon as the peacock is fixed, he uses it himself, when there’s no danger. He doesn’t care about either woman. Emilie is important to him because she’s gone. Maybe he would care about Nathalie if she were gone. Maybe that’s the only way to win his heart – to die for him. What a great guy, right?

I’ve even wondered: if he won and remade the world to his liking (think of the ego involved, there!), would Nathalie be the one to take Emilie’s place in the coma, when the universe balances itself? Would he long for Nathalie, then, and take Emilie for granted? Or would he even remember Nathalie existed? Would he remember the previous world at all? In ‘Ephemeral’, the kwamis said, ‘It’s happening again.’ Long ago, or recently? Did this already happen? Has Gabriel already won but no one remembers? Is that why Emilie is in the coma? Questions, questions….

Adrien, then, fulfils the young wife archetype, despite being Gabriel’s son. It’s insidious and unsettling the way Adrien lives in a house with such a man and doesn’t realise it. I know some people say episodes like ‘Cat Blanc’ and ‘Ephemeral’ are a tease, but they give away a lot of information for the audience…whilst keeping Adrien in the dark. A friend of mine likened it to reincarnation, but taking the same form again and again and having to relearn the same lessons.

Adrien keeps learning the truth about his father, and then it’s taken from him. He’s left ignorant again…but we, as the audience, know just what Gabriel is capable of. We all remember the way he kicked his own son through a roof and came for him, menacingly, while his son lay on the ground, crawling away and begging his father to stop. We all remember that Gabriel didn’t hesitate to wake his son up in the night to drag him down to the basement and reveal his intentions – and steal his power.

Gabriel has Emilie in the basement, just as Bluebeard had dead wives in the closet. But Gabriel’s hidden darkness is also a skeleton in the closet. The way he will treat his son if given the chance is a door Adrien keeps firmly shut, because it’s too painful to open.

I see a lot of criticism of Adrien for not seeing what his father is / standing up to him. But again, I grew up with a Bluebeard, and these types groom you from birth into unquestioning obedience. When the cracks show, you’re too scared to examine them.

I remember the first time my son and I watched season 1, we didn’t work out who Hawk Moth was until the writers let us, at the very end of the season. We hadn’t even considered that he could be someone we had already met. Similarly, we never want to believe the baddies in real life are people we actually know. Bluebeard is a symbol for those moments when we are forced to realise that people aren’t who we thought we were – even those we share a home with, who are supposed to love and support us.

No one wants to believe that their own father is such a monster. It forces you to make some painful decisions. This is the journey Adrien is on. Looking back on my own past, I didn’t embark on that journey until I was about 14-16 years old – the same kind of age Adrien is at. It’s a time of psychological awakening, and I think it plays out believably on the show.

What’s key in all this is that one might argue that Snow and Aurora should not have eaten the apple or touched the spindle (although, it depends on how you interpret their stories). Pandora shouldn’t have opened that box. But Bluebeard’s wife absolutely needed to open that door. Otherwise, she would have lived in wilful ignorance with an evil man. Perhaps it would have gone more peacefully for her…or perhaps (more likely) he would have killed her later, for some other reason. The darkness is still there, even if you avoid looking at it.

Similarly, Adrien needs to learn the truth about his father. We know the extent of the darkness and violence he’s living with, even if he doesn’t. Just because his father hasn’t done his worst to him yet doesn’t excuse Gabriel for the intention in his heart.

Adrien sees it all. He knows there’s a forbidden door, psychologically and emotionally. He does everything he can to win his father over, but it’s never enough. He can see there are secrets. His father is closed off, like Bluebeard’s closet. We can feel that Adrien is on the brink of opening the door. It won’t just be to the basement and Emilie’s body. It will be to the depths of Gabriel’s depravity. Adrien will be forced to see the monster he has been living with all this time. The truth will out, as they say. We can understand why this would drive him to akumatisation.

I guess it then leads us to question what skeletons lie in the closet that is Adrien – namely, Cat Blanc. Sadly for Adrien, again this is something we know and he doesn’t. He has been kept blind to the darkness in and around him, which has kept him from growing. In a way, the writers have locked him in just like Gabriel has, but he’s beginning to break free. Maybe now, he’s stronger and better able to face the revelations that are on their way, and Cat Blanc won’t resurface. (I’ll talk about integration of the selves in another post!)

It brings to mind the expression ‘curiosity killed the cat’. Adrien / Cat Noir is on his way to being undone by his own curiosity, once he uses that x-ray eyepiece Felix left behind. But there won’t be a cavalry of brothers to rush in at the last moment and save him. I keep saying: Adrien needs to save himself. Just as Marinette escaped ‘Weredad’ on her own, Adrien can be his own cavalry. He will need emotional support through it, just as he extended to Ladybug in ‘Strike Back’, but that’s not the same. She will have to stand by his side and give him emotional strength to fight the battle on his own.

Adrien will have that Luke Skywalker moment – I can feel it.

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immaturityofthomasastruc · 3 years

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that poc ask reminded me, i was doing research on all of the characters backgrounds and was so shocked at how the writers were able to make characters who were chinese, creole, cafre/moroccan, arab/north african, malian, vietnamese, japanese, jewish, native american, black, and so many more im probably missing so BORING. im black, and dont get me wrong i hate in your face representation, but you can tell thomas just throws all these nationalities and ethnicities in as if theyre extra points he can earn. you cant know that any of the characters are so diverse unless you go onto the wiki or you rummage through his tweets. i take great pride in my culture so its just annoying he takes pride in having such a diverse cast but that means nothing if you dont do anything with it.

I don’t want to act like I’m the authority on this, but my personal theory is that Astruc wants the show to be easily digestible for viewers despite also claiming his cast is so diverse to gain attention. Remember when he actually said something along the lines of “I’m not racist, some of my main characters are people of color!” when someone (albeit very rudely) accused him of being racist?

This theory of mine is kind of backed up with the idea that despite basing some of the heroes and Akumas on folklore, Astruc’s team really seem doesn’t do a lot of research on culture from other countries.

Oni-Chan is a good example. Aside from an admittedly decent character design, her powers don’t really match up with the Oni seen in Japanese mythology other than Oni-Gokko (tag, only the person who is “it” is called an Oni), but that’s really stretching it. She doesn’t use a club for a weapon, she doesn’t use any sorcery or elemental powers. She basically has the same powers as Lady Wifi. Thematically, Oni-Chan is closer to the Namahage, people who dress up in Oni costumes and threaten to kidnap children if they don't behave, similarly to what she was doing by hunting down Lila.

You really could have done a lot more with this concept, like if the Lucky Charm of the episode was something related to beans (a common practice in Japan during the Setsubun festival to bring in good fortune at the start of Spring), or peaches (a reference to the Momotaro fairy tale, where the titular Oni-fighting hero was born from a giant peach).

There’s also Weredad, an Akuma who just has a fairy tale motif despite it not really lining up with Tom’s character. I get that they were already going to have a baker-themed Akuma later on (even though that Akuma is also a waste of potential with his powers), but I just don’t get why they throw in so many fairy tale cliches in with this Akuma like the single rose or the damsel in distress role Marinette plays. What if instead, he was based off the giant from Jack and the Beanstalk? It’s just a mess of an Akuma concept

If you want to see an example of a show having fun with the concept of fairy tales, I’d check out Episodes 34 and 35 of Kamen Rider Ghost. You’ll get a little lost as it’s right as the series’ final arc is starting (and that’s not getting into a really creepy scene in Episode 34), but once you get to Episode 35, it becomes an absolute blast.

And then there’s Anansi, one of the worst Akumas of the series from a conceptual standpoint. Anansi in African folklore is a trickster by definition. The reason we have stories today according to African folklore is because Anansi managed to capture four extremely dangerous creatures for the Sky God Nyame (he tied Onini the Python to a palm tree branch, trapped the Mmoboro Hornets in a gourd, lured Osebo the Leopard into a pit, and got Mmoatia the Fairy stuck to a doll covered in gum tree sap), who traded his stories to Anansi in response. Even then, his wife Aso gave him a lot of advice on how to trap these creatures, and is sadly forgotten in modern interpretations of Anansi. As a result, since Nyame gave all of his stories to Anansi, every story told today is by definition, a “Spider Story”.

Anansi in the show... is the complete opposite. She’s a dumb brute who has to be told where the Miraculous are, and the closest thing she does to any trickery is trapping Alya and Cat Noir in one of her webs. It makes you wonder why Nora even adopted the title of Anansi in her boxing career in the first place.

Why base an Akuma off someone known for deception and trickery and make them a complete idiot? For the love of God, you had a template to base this Akuma on because Static Shock had an episode all about a superhero themed after Anansi! Sure, a later episode with the character took a few liberties when discussing the folktale, but it’s still more accurate than what Miraculous Ladybug did.

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To me, it just reinforces my belief that the only reason Astruc has characters of several ethnicities in his show is for social brownie points. If he actually cared about diversity or introducing folklore to children, he and his team would actually do their research on properly representing various cultures.

I’m just saying, when a PBS Kids cartoon with a talking moon as the main character does a better job at teaching children about various cultures in every episode than your show that only talks about other cultures in a handful of episodes, your writers might need to rethink the way they do their research.

#immaturity of thomas astruc #iota #thomas astruc #thomas astruc salt #kagami tsurugi #oni chan #oni-chan #lila rossi #volpina #tom dupain #weredad #nora cesaire #anansi #static shock

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johnny2071 · 7 years

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#miraculous ladybug #miraculous #marinette dupain-cheng #adrien agreste #alya césaire #alya cesaire #evillustrator #jack and the beanstalk #jack and the beanstalk (1974)#are you happy?#funny #troll

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justanotherpersonsuniverse · 3 years

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uh, ml bnha au

Yep. Here we go folks. Uh I don’t know much I’ll expand on this but it’s here. The quirks that is. Uhm- here we go I guess? Thank you @ghostatjoes and @symphonic-scream and all y’all for the ideas and inspiration.

Adrien’s will be the only on the nose most obvious one. I wanna try and keep these powers from being just the miraculous powers. So this will be a mix of just original ideas and akuma stuff.

Adrien: “Cataclysm” pretty much it’s Shigaraki’s Decay but a little different. It’s this au’s version of One For All. The Destruction Hero, Plagg, passed this quirk down to him when Adrien proved that he had a good heart to be a hero cause Plagg needs a replacement due to an injury causing Cataclysm to slowly start to kill him. Adrien is aiming to save as many people as possible as a rescue hero. (His outfit has a cat motif in honor of Plagg who has a cat head due to an unrelated mutation like how Tokoyami has a bird head)

Marinette: “Growth” Marinette can amplify the life in a living object. Whether this means taking a small flower and turning it a building tall beanstalk or amplifying the healing of someone’s body. However she can only use this in short bursts or else she risks over growing her body causing chronic pains and possible plants growing from her arms.

Nino: “Bubbles” Okay yeah so obviously Bubbler, but it’s a little cooler? Nino can entrap anything into these bubbles. Sounds, healing packs, explosions, balls of fire, light itself, all condensed into these bubbles ready to be yeeted across the battle field like bombs, med packs, or flash bombs. However they can be a little fragile so he’s working to make them more tough. The bubble solution he uses to make these bubbles are made of his unique sweat. Bakugo style. Don’t ask what it’s made of he isn’t sure either. At least it makes him smell nice.

Alya: “Signal” Not the most offensive quirk, but she can send a signal to every single person in a certain radius that she’s training to grow. Whether this is a message, an image she’s seeing(this can extend to just what she’s seeing in general), etc. She’s also training for this to extent to different signals in the air like WiFi signals so she can send them electrically as well. However she risks heavy migraines with overuse. To make up for her very situational quirk she’s working on upping her physical strength.

Chloe: “Venom/Honeycomb” With Venom she can temporarily paralyze a specific part of an opponent. It’s not as strong as her mother’s Venom or her Aunt/Mentor Pollen’s Venom as it’s a quirk she’s gotten from her family, but she’s working on making sure she’s the most exceptional in the entire class, and making sure no one hears of her other quirk. Honeycomb, which is actually her main quirk and not secondary, gives her the ability to produce a honey like substance that can harden into resin following her will. Chloe refuses to use it for it is unexceptional. She must be like her mother or else..

Sabrina: “Emotional Pulse” Sabrina draws energy from the emotions around her to give her a physical boost. It can go from a strengthened punch to something looking like Detroit Smash. However a draw back can be that the emotions around her can start literally affecting her and somewhat tilting how she may feel. So in an angry environment she herself might start to become angry as well. Hyper empathy basically. And it makes her a little anxious about her identity as an individual.

Nathaniel: “Ink” Nathaniel basically water bends ink into creations he can control, quite literally drawing his creations to life. His limit is how much ink he has. Like that one fuckin Mickey Mouse game.

Alix: “Clockwise” For, at most, thirty seconds, Alix’s speed is super enhanced to an incredible degree, practically breaking time itself. This also enhances her strength and mind, pretty much giving her the spiritual equivalent of that one scene with QuickSilver or that one scene from Over the Hedge. However she can’t go over thirty seconds right now or else her body, mind, and definitely internal organs will begin to face serious damage. To make sure she can track herself, she has a pocket watch that she always has handy to remind her how much time has actually passed.

Kim: “Icarus” Kim can create wings out of a waxy substance from his back that allows him the power of flight. One of the most straightforward power here honestly. Like Icarus however, these wings can melt and can be destroyed. Kim, however, has a small control over the wax which means he could potentially be able to use it for something else, however this requires patience and control, something he lacks.

Max: “Locker” Pretty much, Max is able to set a “marker” on any enclosed space (of a arm reachable size, spanning from a literal locker or a luggage bag) and from anywhere in a 4 mile radius (that he can train to grow) Max is able to “reach into inside” and grab anything that’s inside there. However this space must exist, it’s not a pocket dimension, and so are the objects inside as well. This quirk is useful for holding emergency equipment or grabbing a quick weapon. However it has to be something he can actually hold and something he has already put in there, so he must calculate what would be useful so he can prioritize space and what he should bring with him.

Ivan: “Minotaur” Gives him attributes akin to The Minotaur. Though his appearance is mostly human, it does become more and more beastly as his anger or need to use his power rises.

Mylene: “Fear” Mylene gets a boost of power from the fear around her, which she has the ability to enhance to terrifying levels, leaving her victims in states of trauma and distress if she doesn’t control its degree. This quirk mutates her slightly to be akin in some way to the form of the person she’s using her quirk on’s fear. However she herself is easy to be scared so this backfires most of the time.

Juleka: “Vampire Bat” She can do anything a bat can do! Plus a bloody bonus. She has the power of echolocation which, if trained, can possibly knock down a small target. She doesn’t have wings but is working to incorporate some kind of glider into her hero design. As for that vampiric bonus, she has minor control over blood, able to bend it at will, however at this moment, the best she can do is make someone dizzy through a few edits with their blood stream.

Rose: “Perfume” Rose is able to admit a powerful perfume like gas which, upon inhaling, can reduce the victims into a drowsy state of mind. However she’s the only one immune to it so she must be extremely careful with how she uses it and who's around to possibly inhale it. A strange side effect from this quirk is that there’s a slight green tint to her blush.

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Luka: “Synesthesia” like the actual condition of synesthesia, he is able to visualize and conceptualize sound on different levels of understanding. With this, his hearing is incredibly sensitive and simply pressing an ear against the wall could help him develop an map of the entire building. He claims to hear the souls of others as well, which is supported by his ability to tell from illusion or reality just by his sense of hearing.

Kagami: “Storm” She has the entire essence of a storm wrapped up inside her. Though it may be confused with Class 1b’s Aurore Beaureal’s quirk “Weather” if you were to mistake those two, you would certainly get a lightning bolt to the stomach. Kagami’s quirk has been part of her family for generations, and as the up coming member of her hero family’s legacy, she is planning for no one to be in her way.

Marc: “Origami” Has complete control over paper and can manipulate them to become any creation they can think of, getting said creation’s attributes. So if Marc made a origami dog it might start barking and it’s teeth might become sharp enough to actually pierce skin, same if Marc made a paper sword. However the limitation is how much paper Marc actually has.

Lila: “Whistle” Lila can manipulate a person’s perception through the power of her whistle, causing possible hallucinations or problems in their sight. However it’s controlled by her whistle and it’s power so breathing exercises are important for her to do. To make things easier, she has taken up using the flute to better enhance her quirk.

Maybe in a different post I’ll talk about the different pro heroes, vigilantes, and villains.

#ml bnha au #adrien agreste #marinette dupain cheng #nino lahiffe #alya cesaire #chloe bourgeois #sabrina raincomprix #nathaniel kurtzberg #alix kubdel #kim le chien #max kante #ivan bruel #mylene haprele #juleka couffaine #rose lavillant #luka couffaine #kagami tsurugi #marc anciel #lila rossi

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twisted-art-wounders · 7 months

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Marinette and the Beanstalk

Once there are two kingdoms both ruled by a set of royal twins of Graham de Vanily; Emilie, Amelie and their husbands. Both set of royals were unable to have a child of their own but both were desperate to have children. One day Emilie found a powerful magic spell that would grant her wish for a child and allowed her sister use it as well. Soon they where each blessed with a child Prince Adiren and Prince Felix, but they were unaware this method would carry grave consequences for each of them.

Years later when both boys turned 16 a grave tragedy befell both kingdoms; Amelie's husband was killed when their castle fell apart due to an earthquake that levelled their entire kingdom. Both she and her son Prince Felix where forced to abandon their kingdom when a giant monster destroyed the rest of it. While Emilie was lost due to the same earthquake that levelled her own castle, her son Prince Adiren was said to have been taken by a giant monster which caused the tragic earthquakes in the first place. To prevent the monster form returning her husband King Gabriel used his own magic to send the monster into the clouds and trap it.

King Gabriel now rules over this land with and iron fist allowing his nobles to rule over smaller villages and collects offerings to keep the giant from returning. In a small village ruled by the noble family of Bourgeois hard times have come to their village because of a great famine that has forced everyone into near starvation. Lady Chole of the Bourgeois has come for the villages offerings but after finding no one is able to pay their due she declares at the end of the month is they fail to bring a sizable offering the village will be destroyed by the monster.

One day an old traveler came upon their town begging for food but no one he found would help him until the village baker Marinette offers him her final loaf of bread. The traveler is grateful to her for her kindness, once he learns of her villages impeding doom he offers her a gift; a single red and black spotted seed. He tells her to plant the seed by the light of the full moon and miracle will happen. While skeptical at first she follows the travelers instructions and plants the seed in the full moons light, almost instantly it spouts and revels a set of red and black spotted earrings held by a small fairy named Tikki who tells her to wear the earrings to perform her miracle.

Once she did the small sprout started to grow into a giant beanstalk heading towards the clouds, Marinette grabbed on and was taken into the air. Once they'd breach the clouds she found a giant castle awaited her at the top. Tikki tells her to enter the castle were she finds a giant named Adrien sitting at a table and talking to the noble woman Chole Bourgeois. Coming closer so she can listen better she over hears Chole dropping off a bag of riches to him for safe keeping and tells the giant about how one village is being stubborn and refuses to pay her for her kind actions and that she will tell the King it's time to make an example out of them and have the giant come down and destroy the village.

Adrien isn't too happy to hear about it and tells Chole not to involve the King and to give the village more time which she reluctantly agrees to before leaving. Afterwards Adrein spots Marinette on his table and after a small chase captures her. Marinette is terrorized at first and begs the giant not make bread from her bones but Adrien tells her he wont and has never eaten a human before and will not ever. He's fascinated by her presence and reveals she is only other human he's met in a long time, he's lived a solitary life in the clouds since he turned 13 and wishes to leave the clouds and explore the world below him.

But he was told by his father he is to stay confined to the clouds since his presence will cause distress to the kingdom. After feeding a very hungry Martinette some food she discovers Adrien cannot bake bread but wishes to learn so in exchange for some treasure to pay Chole, Marinette agrees to teach him how to bake.

#marinette dupain cheng #adrien agreste #gabriel agreste #chloe bourgeois #kagami tsurugi #felix fathom #miraculous #au #Marinette and the Beanstalk #fan art

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ghostlyhamburger · 2 years

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Husband Watches Weredad

My life as a teenage werewolf. As a father. How many dads are in the fucking show? Tom, Chloe’s dad, sabrina’s dad, and Gabriel, Juleka’s dad might be Jagged Stone?

It’s gonna be Tom, it’s gonna be bad

I know it’s Tom he’s on the image cover. Yes I know that’s the wrong word. Type it anyways.

Why is the baby back

it’s like all of his teeth were plucked out oh god

her hair actually looks black

That was not five minutes!

You still have the binky

Leave before you transform you dumbass. And you still forgot the binky.

That is a really ugly baby

“It’s the first time a girl’s told me she’s in love with me!” That’s sad.

“Everyone loves Marinette!” [husband turns to stare at me] that’s why you called the series that??

why is the cheese just sitting there

Plagg you piece of shit

The problem is he can’t show up normally he has to show up in hero form

“No one’s as stubborn and one-track minded as him!” except Marinette

Plagg you’re such a piece of shit

why did they give Marinette a thigh gap

[Tom talking to Chat and husband is just hiding his face and groaning]

This is actually kind of hard to watch

You’re going a little hard on the sauce there Marinette

[heart shaped souffle falls, husband just laughs]

[Tom] went way too hard on that

You know [Hawkmoth] if you paid attention to your kid this would be avoided. How are you the second worst parent? The first is Fu (Fu isn’t a parent.)That’s the problem! He’s supposed to be a father figure!

He has giant sausage fingers

Is this giant beanstalk bullshit or feed me seymour bullshit?

It should be getting hard to breathe the higher you go up

interesting, he was holding him like a cat by the scruff of the neck

physics don’t bend that way!

“What hurts the most is solitude!” (me, practically hyperventilating, husband totally unawares)

So this is some Beauty and the Beast bullshit

Oh. Literal Beauty and the Beast bullshit. With hidden plant traps?

Weren’t the weapons supposed to be unbreakable?

Is that really all it took? Just grab the flower? Did Tom do that because that’s dumb but also additional insight into how akumas work

So the problem that I have is Tom’s going to believe Marinette’s future lover is Ladybug because Ladybug had to get the rose

What the fuck is with him thinking pastry chefs are the best in the world?

That was a weird episode. Like a really weird episode.

#husband watches Miraculous Ladybug #ml liveblog #husband's opinions #ghostly's husband

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gale-gentlepenguin · 5 years

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Rate the Akuma Weredad

Design: B+: He has a rather interesting design, looking like a mix of the beast, big bad wolf, with the giant in the bean stalk mixed with a world class mustache. He looks like a formidable foe, while I think he could look bigger, meaner, and beastlier. I do think the design is cool.

powers: C. His powers are… kind of vague and weird. Like he is connected to the beanstalk so he has control over the vines sort of, but it also seems like the maze Marinette was in had a mind of its own. He seems to be physically stronger then typical akuma, so I assume he has greater enhanced strength and durability. He is a beast.

theme (As in their gimmick): B+ His theme is Fairy tale villain. He is the beast that guards the princess. A lot of inspiration from fairy tales, though I do think they could have pushed the envelope by making him able to change size or something to add more to it.

Reason for Akumatization: A+: Tom Loves his daughter and it broke his heart to see her get crushed (or so he thinks). He just wanted his daughter to have a good life (a bit of a fairy tale romantic) he never wants his daughter to get hurt. I think that is really sweet, and it only amplified by the fact that Marinette isn’t that upset over it. Some people might find it annoying because of the latter, but the Motive is what matters here and I think its best.

Effectiveness as an akuma (How close were they to getting the miraculous): C-

He was more focused on protecting Marinette. It worked out for him that Chat noir was trying to save Marinette. But he wasn’t a threat in the aspect of getting the miraculous. However, he did do quite a number on Chat noir.

Personal enjoyment of the akuma: C+

He was so-so. I was more interested in the drama prior to this akuma encounter. But it was nice to see Chat noir having a reason for getting the crap beaten out of him. That being that he didn’t want to fight Weredad and he was trying to talk him down.

Also, I liked that Marinette ‘Saved Herself’ as opposed to the Prince Charming bit. A change in the classic fairy tale formula where the Princess saves herself. Always a good lesson for young girls to know.

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Overall ranking: B-

The akuma is a bit better then average, his motive being one of the best in the series and one I can’t help but enjoy. His fight with Chat noir despite it being a one sided beatdown gave Adrien some character development which was greatly needed after the s***show that was Chameleon.

I must say that Weredad is a rose with his fair share of thorns but something that really vines well with me.

#ml #weredad #papa garou #miraculous ladybug #rate the akuma game #akuma villain

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anxresi · 5 years

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A few random thoughts about Weredad:

1. Wouldn’t it be great if kwami could materialize through sold objects, so Tikki had a chance of getting to Marinette quicker? Wait...

2.Can you think of a better animal superhero to transform into to climb a giant beanstalk, than a cat? No, me neither.

3. Yes, we know Marinette can save herself without being Ladybug, we’ve seen this plenty before. But would it kill the writers to have Chat rescue her for a change? Without being unjustly accused of sexism? Apparently it would.

4. Marinette should take a lot of the responsibility for the problems of this episode, given it was her blatant lying and the fact she didn’t understand her father’s feelings that led to this whole mess starting. But no apology. Instead, it was left to Chat to say sorry for some unknown reason(!) Now, I’m not one to jump on the ‘let’s all hate Marinette’ bandwagon, but I think here at least, they might have a point. :p

5. I’m not letting Chat totally off the hook, though. How dumb must you be to not realize Ladybug’s true identity by now, because when she was dropping from the sky she was all alone the whole time, yet somehow she was able to ‘save’ Marinette without being seen. Oh well, nothing we’re not used to by now. ^^

#Marinette Dupain-Cheng #miraculous ladybug #cat noir #adrien agreste #zag

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whenimgoodandready · 5 years

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Fathers will forever be overprotective of their baby girls. No matter what kind they are. They’ll make sure no boy ever comes near them if they only want “one thing”. Perhaps this is because they were once like that before maturing and gaining responsibilities when they realized how wrong it was? Fathers can get too “monsterous” when they overreact to it too, especially if you’re a flirtatious, goofy, show offy, pun making black cat. He found that out the hard way. Wanna know how it went?

*Weredad-We open up to Ladybug and Cat Noir battling against Gigantitan-wait hold up, AGAIN!? WTF!? Hawk Moth, this is the third time in the show you’ve akumatized the same baby! Honestly, this man is a failure with child care! I was right! He’s gone desperate and mad that he never learns from his mistakes to not evilize babies! Anyways, after he’s defeated, Cat goes up to Marinettes balcony, where he saw Ladybug disappear, and finds Marinette instead. Just when he was about to put two-and-two together, Marinette panics and diverts his attention by confessing her “love” for him! XD. Cat Noir was flattered by this cuz it was the first time ever a girl has said they liked him. I’m sure you’re all aware that people like both Marinette AND Ladybug, but only Adrien has admirers and not on his alter ego (in-universe). Which is sad because Adrien says he’s his “real self” as Cat Noir. The guy has to put up a “picture perfect” image of “the ideal boy” to impress his father and give him a good reputation and he’s not so thrilled about it.

Marinettes father, jolly old Tom, sees this and is all on board with the Marichat ship inviting him to brunch! He becomes so happy for Marinette to the point where he practically plans out their future (complete with the hamster!). However, Cat Noir says he actually loves Ladybug and Marinette fake cries to look convincing so as not to get Cat to remember his original train of focus of her and her alter ego. However, it works too well as it upsets Tom and he’s akumatized as a beast like creature trapping Marinette in a thorny beanstalk like prison so as to protect her from all the heartbreak in the world going up against any guy that tries to get past him for her heart. It was all filled with fairytale references such as Beauty and the Beast (Weredad with the rose), Jack and the Beanstalk (the bramble prison thorn tower that reaches the sky) and Rapuzel (Marinette stuck up in the huge bramble ball prison like tower at the very top). He was like a worse version of Gabriel Agreste which was pointed out by Cat Noir about his own feelings of isolation and lack of freedom. One cool thing was how Marinette saved the day first as herself by destroying the akuma and then as Ladybug at the last minute. Considering how Marinette is a total klutz, she braved her way through the bramble and booby traps to save her father. Guess she just needed a good motivation. Reminds me of how she dodged Princess Fragrances attacks just to save Tikki when she got sick before curing her and transforming.

In the end, Marichat stayed platonic and the love square still has no change. There’s something I want to put out though, Cat Noir said that he still loves Ladybug despite the fact that she keeps rejecting him and saying she likes some “other guy”. Adrien tried to move on by dating Kagami, but he just couldn’t let go of Ladybug. I’m thinking as long as Ladybug is still single and not dating the “other guy”, he believes he still has a chance with her. However, if you like someone and they don’t like you back and have feelings for someone else, you *clap* should *clap* respect *clap* their *clap* wishes *clap* and *clap* move *clap* on! *CLAP!* Even if IT IS still frustrating that we the fans know the f**king truth! But still! It’s an important aesop to teach the kids about learning to let go and do the right thing.

We see a new side of Mr.Dupain-Cheng here as he’s not as nice as he seems and can be just as touchy and overprotective with his daughter as any other father when it comes to boys that break her heart. He not only ships Adrienette, but also Marichat, any boy with Marinette is just fine with him as long as she’s happy. It was also a surprise to me, cuz we all assumed that Tom would be akumatized as some “baker-esque” villain, but he wasn’t! Looks like it would’ve been too obvious for us to figure out since we’re all such detectives on figuring out what’s coming next huh? Nice move there writing staff, nice move. This episode had more of a “slice of life” plot than it did a superhero battle ep, what with the whole faux love confession following the awkward brunch and the battle included only Cat Noir due to Marinettes imprisonment unable to transform after losing Tikki in the huge bramble. I know there were other episodes that had a “slice of life” feel such as “Gigantitan” with the girl squad setting up the secret romantic Adrienette hook-up sceanario, “Despair Bear” with the mean girl trying to turn-it-around with a party approach, “Gorizilla” with a run from an adoring fan mob and “Frozer” with the love square spicing it up with a double date, but I just felt like this was more to it as Cat was doing something mundane (having brunch with a family in a fake relationship sitcom style), that’s why. What was touching about this episode was that for the longest time, Adrien/Cat Noir had a nice family meal cuz his dad is always too “busy” to even eat with him constantly leaving him in a big almost empty mansion at a long a** table! He’s gonna be so happy when he becomes part of the Dupain-Cheng family (eventually).

#miraculous ladybug #weredad #miraculous ladybug weredad

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